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Offline tbc

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Parents and Gaming
« on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:18:03 »
So I'm a child of the 90s; the first decade and generation where computer gaming* was something you could do as an indoor activity that also had a social component with other people...from anywhere.  As well, many of the classic games with decent graphics first came out: DOOM, quake, Starcraft, etc.

This was a huge transitional period and change comes hard for the previous generation.  I'm willing to bet good money that most kids got harrassed by parents to 'just stop' gaming and 'make friends' because online chatting wasn't real enough. 


Enough about the past, my generation is now reaching parenthood.  So I'm going to ask: as a gamer of the 90s that DID NOT have parent approval to game, will you support your kid if that's what they want to do as fun time?  how much or how little?


*yes, I realize consoles and arcades go way way back, but let's be honest, before the 90s, you just gamed in your basement and internet gaming wasn't really a many millions players activity.
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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:22:48 »
So I'm a child of the 90s; the first decade and generation where computer gaming* was something you could do as an indoor activity that also had a social component with other people...from anywhere.  As well, many of the classic games with decent graphics first came out: DOOM, quake, Starcraft, etc.

This was a huge transitional period and change comes hard for the previous generation.  I'm willing to bet good money that most kids got harrassed by parents to 'just stop' gaming and 'make friends' because online chatting wasn't real enough. 


Enough about the past, my generation is now reaching parenthood.  So I'm going to ask: as a gamer of the 90s that DID NOT have parent approval to game, will you support your kid if that's what they want to do as fun time?  how much or how little?


*yes, I realize consoles and arcades go way way back, but let's be honest, before the 90s, you just gamed in your basement and internet gaming wasn't really a many millions players activity.

I'd support my kids with whatever makes them happy within reason. There definitely comes a point where too much time spent on games is unhealthy so I want to try and promote a healthy balance. So long as they're getting regular exercise and maintaining friendships then I'll be happy for them to spend their spare time on games.
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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 22:57:45 »
Parental discretion... your boys will be as good or as bad as you let them be. I'm not saying lord it over them with an iron fist, but boys need a firm hand to keep them from going overboard. Lots of love to drive that hand, too. Otherwise, they'll never reach their full potential as men. We all know our society is sorely lacking in properly formed males.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that gaming culture can be toxic in general. In the worst cases, gaming can be a false relief, an unsupervised activity of selfishness, despair, and/or loneliness. Even in the best "everybody-is-friends" scenario, young boys can be pretty vicious and egotistical in the pettiest competitions. It's not so different from sports, but sports have way more checks and balances for proper character development. Adult supervision, traditions, rules... believe it or not, these safeguards early in life become part of the bedrock of a man's code later in life. In sports, it's much more difficult to take shortcuts or cheat---and to face the consequences if you're caught, by yourself or by others. In sports, you typically learn that you simply cannot earn respect or physical gains without some form of discipline. It's a balance between mind and body. You master both and they reinforce one another.

I'm not saying your kids will be head-long into gaming binges every weekend, but you'd be surprised how easy life can run your priorities over if you don't plan for this ahead. I don't have kids (yet) but I'm going to be pretty clear about the expectations for what constitutes leisure and what constitutes wasting life.

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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 23:24:43 »
Parental discretion... your boys will be as good or as bad as you let them be. I'm not saying lord it over them with an iron fist, but boys need a firm hand to keep them from going overboard. Lots of love to drive that hand, too. Otherwise, they'll never reach their full potential as men. We all know our society is sorely lacking in properly formed males.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that gaming culture can be toxic in general. In the worst cases, gaming can be a false relief, an unsupervised activity of selfishness, despair, and/or loneliness. Even in the best "everybody-is-friends" scenario, young boys can be pretty vicious and egotistical in the pettiest competitions. It's not so different from sports, but sports have way more checks and balances for proper character development. Adult supervision, traditions, rules... believe it or not, these safeguards early in life become part of the bedrock of a man's code later in life. In sports, it's much more difficult to take shortcuts or cheat---and to face the consequences if you're caught, by yourself or by others. In sports, you typically learn that you simply cannot earn respect or physical gains without some form of discipline. It's a balance between mind and body. You master both and they reinforce one another.

I'm not saying your kids will be head-long into gaming binges every weekend, but you'd be surprised how easy life can run your priorities over if you don't plan for this ahead. I don't have kids (yet) but I'm going to be pretty clear about the expectations for what constitutes leisure and what constitutes wasting life.

would you say the same concepts apply to daughters as well?
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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 28 February 2015, 23:42:39 »
My parents let me stay in the basement and play videogames all I wanted - much to the detriment of my grades.

I love my parents; they had a very difficult hard life growing up so they didn't want the same for their children.  That said - it was the wrong call.  I would have been better off in a very strict household where academia was the focus.


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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 02:20:11 »
Me and my dad played networked Doom over his offices network. It was ossom.

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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 03:50:09 »
would you say the same concepts apply to daughters as well?

Yes, broadly speaking. Sports are just an example. There's lots of virtue to gain and lessons to be learned in playing an instrument, volunteering, etc.

No, narrowly speaking. I just don't see young girls as being primarily interested in gaming for themselves as much as boys are. They're more naturally drawn to socializing (to a greater extent than boys) whereas boys are more naturally drawn to proving themselves (to a greater extent than girls). So, if girls like games, it's to meet and be with other people. Thus, with girls, you should be particularly concerned about the social effects of online multiplayer gaming. They're brought down to our level in these worlds. It's not good for boys, but I think it's especially harmful for girls to play around in our dirt. (They have their own so no need to combine the two. Exception: girls or tomboys who find relief from mean girls by coming to our side.)

Anyway, there's a sense of vulgarity that comes with all the off-color language in gaming. For girls, this means that the levels of profanity and obscenity in games can dull their sense of self-respect. Those who stick around end up tolerating bad behavior, even mirroring it in order to be accepted. Over time, this forms an attitude that it's normal to be spoken around inappropriately or that it's OK to be around guys who have no class, i.e. respect for a woman in the room. Call me old-fashioned, but a guy deserves to get his ass handed to him if he speaks crudely in front of a woman. Unfortunately, (1) guys don't grow up these days and (2) the internet is an abysmal haven for cowards. Sure, there are lots of potty-mouthed and potty-brained people out there, but it's still mostly appreciated by women when you uphold and defend their dignity---something our decayed culture spits on.

By the way, I'm not saying there aren't exceptions (one noted above) or that women can't handle what guys say or do or that they're inferior. I'm certainly not feminist nor am I trying to be a chauvinist. Without getting into the futile debate of men vs. women, I'm just saying that women deserve to be treated with a respectful notice by men. It's just what I would want for the women (mom, sis, future wife, future daughters, etc) in my life. If you share the same belief, then beware the corruption out there.

Lastly, if we just spend time with our kids wholeheartedly, you wouldn't believe how much it matters to them, not to mention the wounds and mistakes they suffer at our hands that they'll be able to more easily forgive in the future. It's a tragedy, but lots of parents hate their kids so they leave them to their own devices and let the PC raise them. It's a form of neglect.
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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:39:34 »
my parents like to say they support me in my gaming but they pretty obviously don't

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Re: Parents and Gaming
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:49:37 »
My Dad and my Uncle learnt me how to game when I was a youngster. Had amiga from a young age. Played a lot of Street Fighter on the SNES. Ken Masters was my go to character. :D From then on I just played and played. Loved sports, as well but gaming was my thing. It felt like it was the thing I was real good at. When I got my 360 I got CoD2 and played a hell of a lot of that online. Then when CoD4 came out I just clicked with it and played it competitively and won money in a fair amount of tournaments online and LAN. Which was awesome. I'd like to think I still have the awareness and skill about me to play games at a higher level but I probably don't.

Oh also me and my old man played Ghost Recon : Advanced Warfighter together (1 and 2) competitively. We were in top teams on Gamebattles for years running. It makes an awesome memory for me.

If my daughter wanted to take up gaming, I'd support her 100%. More than willing. She/We play LEGO games together on my PC. She's only 3 and learns things incredibly fast. Knows which characters to what on Batman games etc... Only an amount of time before I transition her into dota2. :D
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