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Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 05:54:57 »
There is a new UK film about AI. I haven't watched it, but hearing about it has inspired me to do some thinking.

I have been wondering whether TP is a real person, or a chatbox AI in some research lab. His answers and responses are, frankly, unreal.

Will TP4Tissue pass or fail the Turing test?

I believe that TP would fail the Turing test.

The Turing Test depends on you giving answers that a human is expected to give.

Unfortunately all the conversations that we’ve been through with TP so far, reveal answers that normal human being do not give. It is rare that TP shows us a simulacrum of sanity or normalcy, at least by normal human standards.

Now I’m sure many of us have met him in real life. But did you really meet TP, or did you meet his programmer?
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 06:11:39 »
Are you sure you're not tp mate?
cuz this is 80% teepee post
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 06:53:25 »
A TP4 may not injure a human being or, through posting random text, allow a human being to come to harm.

A TP4 must respond to posts by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

A TP4 must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:10:20 »
Am guessing that if TP is an AI, he's the fourth iteration.

I wonder if there is some automotive or gardening forum where TP1, TP2, and TP3 were active.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:40:12 »
I'm willing to take any Turing test ya'll can concoct...

Ask away.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:48:08 »
All too human, even a massive random generator could not be so random.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:21:06 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:40:12
I'm willing to take any Turing test ya'll can concoct...

Ask away.
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I'm tempted to suggest the Chinese Room test with you.

Very curious to know whether your thought processes work the same way in a different language. Even a genius programmer can't create an AI fluent in two very different languages at the same time.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:28:52 »
Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:21:06
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:40:12
I'm willing to take any Turing test ya'll can concoct...

Ask away.
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I'm tempted to suggest the Chinese Room test with you.

Very curious to know whether your thought processes work the same way in a different language. Even a genius programmer can't create an AI fluent in two very different languages at the same time.

Chinese/ English is the compiled language layer.. ontop of my assembly layer..


Overall.. I don't think that test makes any sense..

You can't not understand ANY Chinese..

for example.. Ma, Mom   same in nearly any language..   so every language has a "blink" program essentially.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:44:34 »
I don't see things the same way.

The Chinese language is highly contextual. Unlike Spanish and Latinate languages where you don't need any common sense, just grammatical rules. Given the fact that so much of the information in Chinese actually comes from the listener applying his understanding and empathy, this language constitutes a genuine exchange rather than a one sided, unidirectional conveyance of information.

In other words it is much harder to use a machine to try and fool people with Chinese, my dear 涕屁佛剃锈

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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:33:09 »
He is IBM's Watson trying to be an Internet troll.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:16:06 »
Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:44:34
I don't see things the same way.

The Chinese language is highly contextual. Unlike Spanish and Latinate languages where you don't need any common sense, just grammatical rules. Given the fact that so much of the information in Chinese actually comes from the listener applying his understanding and empathy, this language constitutes a genuine exchange rather than a one sided, unidirectional conveyance of information.

In other words it is much harder to use a machine to try and fool people with Chinese, my dear 涕屁佛剃锈

 :p

Well, I asked myself, Do I really  "KNOW" english..

I'm not sure I do..   at least I don't think my body understands it prior to it having been translated into assembly.

The brain has to do live compile..
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:16:09 »
Can confirm. tp4 is actually an android.

Quote from: prdlm2009 on Sat, 11 April 2015, 16:33:09
He is IBM's Watson trying to be an Internet troll.

you seem to be implying that he thinks things through with logical reasoning. are you new here?
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:24:07 »
The second letter in AI stands for intelligence.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:27:03 »
TP give me your ergodoz please.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 19:30:58 »
Quote from: Novus on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:27:03
TP give me your ergodoz please.


I no longer own an ergodox.. I have joined with it, and we've become one. Separation and distinction is no longer possible. I am the Ergodox, and the Ergodox is me..

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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:12:05 »
This is one of the most surreal threads I have ever followed.  Not to mention, one of the most amusing.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:33:35 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 April 2015, 19:30:58
Quote from: Novus on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:27:03
TP give me your ergodoz please.


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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 21:06:01 »
Quote from: Air tree on Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:33:35
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 April 2015, 19:30:58
Quote from: Novus on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:27:03
TP give me your ergodoz please.


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Pics pls.

Pics or it didn't happen.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 21:27:44 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:48:08
All too human, even a massive random generator could not be so random.

qft

Quote from: neverused on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:24:07
The second letter in AI stands for intelligence.

ha!
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 21:53:40 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 11 April 2015, 17:16:06
The brain has to do live compile..

*cough*

just-in-time compilation

*cough*
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 22:19:57 »
Have you considered the possibility that TP might have a positronic brain cloned from a human?

In other word's.
he's like the teepee version of cortana:
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 23:17:30 »
If anyone is wondering, 涕屁佛剃锈 is a perfectly sound rendering of TP's name in Chinese. However, if you tried using google translate...

This is why the Chinese room test is great for figuring out machines from humans.
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 23:38:03 »
Nobody's going to get that.

Let's just call him fun pee (放屁) from now on.
This literally means fart but you can use it contextually to mean bull**** (this is complete rubbish).

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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
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Re: Is TP4Tissue a human being or an AI?
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 17:27:39 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Sun, 12 April 2015, 17:24:14
Uber-troll-issimo

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