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The problem with Gaming
« on: Sun, 24 January 2016, 19:23:13 »
Once you've played an -Addicting- Video game,  you'd never want to play any NON-addiction video games..


So, essentially,   All the games that you would bother playing after your very first addiction would be the "addicting'  kind..

Therefore,   the addict pattern continues to repeat itself. and your life remains un-fulfilled unless you have such Vidya..

As with any addiction,  the time cost is too great, and competes or overwhelms one's other natural responsibilities.


SIgh...............I mustn't play HEARTH STONNNNNNeee..

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 24 January 2016, 19:46:00 »
I feel you TP.
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 01:56:12 »
LoL, Hearthstone, Dota 2,  mygod ..  there's just nothing like it out there.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:06:20 »
LoL, Hearthstone, Dota 2,  mygod ..  there's just nothing like it out there.

...there are good games though...

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:20:12 »
LoL, Hearthstone, Dota 2,  mygod ..  there's just nothing like it out there.

...there are good games though...

They are TOooooo good..  that's the problem...   It's like life doesn't even matter..

I could not eat, as long as I had them,  I feel whole.. 

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:26:34 »
Personally my addicting games are Euro Truck simulator, Project cars, Faster than light, and Papers please ( it's stressful and addicting) . And most games that don't fall into the category of any of those i just dont spend much time on.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:28:04 »
Personally my addicting games are Euro Truck simulator, Project cars, Faster than light, and Papers please ( it's stressful and addicting) . And most games that don't fall into the category of any of those i just dont spend much time on.

have you tried any of the moba connly33 ?


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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:32:25 »
Personally my addicting games are Euro Truck simulator, Project cars, Faster than light, and Papers please ( it's stressful and addicting) . And most games that don't fall into the category of any of those i just dont spend much time on.

have you tried any of the moba connly33 ?

I've never really gotten into any moba's, then again i haven't tried very many.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 08:40:26 »
I recently started to play hearthstone.
My experience so far:
Pay to win + RNG

If i have to pay $150 just to get the cards needed for a somehow decent deck, that game ain't for me. I'd rather buy another keyboard.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 08:43:25 »
WoW man...
High school time, eating frozen meat pies and frozen dumplings, the laziness to get into the shower, can't sleep thinking how I can get better in game, no RL social

nothing would ever feel the same, sometimes when I can't sleep I re-imagining my life in that time

call me weird
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 08:49:38 »
tp you understand me.

I've been trying to explain to people why games like Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, Last of Us, etc. just don't hook me. I mean they look amazing and I can appreciate them, but I just don't feel like sitting down and playing those games for 8 hours straight (not that I feel like this very often any more...).

I think part of the addiction for me is that the game has to have a ladder or ranking system I can see myself improving in. Now that I think about it, every game I've ever been hooked on has had a ladder (Starcraft, LoL, Hearthstone, Rocket League). Open world just leaves too many options so I don't know if I'm playing the game "optimally" or not - which is another problem. Whenever I decide to play a game I want to know everything about it, that I'm making the right decisions (no matter how small), and that I'm executing those decisions properly. Those big single player campaign games have great stories and all, but I keep questioning whether or not I skilled the right thing, held on to the right items, etc. I wish I could just sit myself down in one and play it out, but I almost feel like restarting the game all over again if I think I've done something sub-optimally. Skyrim was a nightmare for me  :)) I wonder if maybe I'm just a little too competitive though....

One things that solved this though was speedrunning games like the Ocarina of Time. I don't have the patience to normally playthrough the game - but I can spend hours upon hours trying to get a certain glitch/skip. 
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 08:54:08 »
tp pm me your battletag I wanna vs you in hearthstone

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 09:03:40 »
4 words: counter strike global offensive

Passed 2k hours overall, and any other game I just can't get into because I don't see how I can improve. I'm addicted to improving.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 10:21:16 »
Passed 2k hours overall, and any other game I just can't get into because I don't see how I can improve. I'm addicted to improving.

Same here, I spent my whole youth playing competetive games. I always wanted to be better than others. Now I realize .. it has improved nothing, I am not better than anybody at anything.
I rather should've improved at playing an instrument, doing sports, getting knowledge, improving at social dynamics, etc.
You want to improve? Stop playing videogames.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 10:23:25 »
I know that feel. I started playing League a few years ago and it is hard for me to play anything else when I have free time. I have a bunch of games that I want to play, but I always play League.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 11:45:42 »
games like Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor, Last of Us, etc. just don't hook me. I mean they look amazing and I can appreciate them, but I just don't feel like sitting down and playing those games for 8 hours straight (not that I feel like this very often any more...).

I get this so much. I picked up FO4 and before that FC4 and AC Unity, just couldn't get hooked. But I can easily jump around in town on GW2 for hours or just play DotA all night. A lot of it for me at least is having a community I play with, so I just end up playing any sort of co-op/multiplayer that my buddies and I can play together. I think the communal aspect of online gaming has more appeal to me than a story-driven game at this point in my life

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:14:42 »
WoW man...
High school time, eating frozen meat pies and frozen dumplings, the laziness to get into the shower, can't sleep thinking how I can get better in game, no RL social

nothing would ever feel the same, sometimes when I can't sleep I re-imagining my life in that time

call me weird


I remember my mother telling me back then,  enjoy your youth, because when you become an adult,  things get crummy..

Of course very few young people actually understands the concept  of "Relative perceptions"..  so I had no reference for what "crummy" meant..


Sigh...........   Now it's all crummy from now on..

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:22:26 »
Passed 2k hours overall, and any other game I just can't get into because I don't see how I can improve. I'm addicted to improving.

Same here, I spent my whole youth playing competetive games. I always wanted to be better than others. Now I realize .. it has improved nothing, I am not better than anybody at anything.
I rather should've improved at playing an instrument, doing sports, getting knowledge, improving at social dynamics, etc.
You want to improve? Stop playing videogames.


Yes we all GET IT NOW..     What I'm worried about, is what I've Learned from playing Vidya...


All our motivation is driven identically by the same perceptual chemicals in our brain..


We've experienced an Un-naturally good time playing Vidya..



Now everyday life "feels" dull in comparison.    Every heroin addict figures out at some point, that their habit is unproductive/ destructive/ pointless/ and irresponsible..


But nontheless,  our biology is only capable of so much happiness, and it's fulfilled so easily by modern distractions..



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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:22:55 »
I know that feel. I started playing League a few years ago and it is hard for me to play anything else when I have free time. I have a bunch of games that I want to play, but I always play League.


Yup.. that's exactly it..  Moba, why play anything else....

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:28:23 »
I guess I must have passed this point in my life, because 8-10 years ago all I cared about was WoW, DoTA, LoL, and other online games with ladders and season.  Now, being married with kids has made me appreciate single-player games much more than I used to, as it's much easier for me to just pause a game of Civ V or Shadows of Mordor than it is to stop in the middle of a game of LoL or in the middle of a raid.  While I kind of miss the community that you have when playing competitive games online, especially with friends, it does make the times that I do get to play online games with those people seem a more fun.
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:33:31 »
I recently started to play hearthstone.
My experience so far:
Pay to win + RNG

If i have to pay $150 just to get the cards needed for a somehow decent deck, that game ain't for me. I'd rather buy another keyboard.


Real life is RNG + Pay to Win..

No game has ever been non- Pay to Win..


Games will either cost , TIME,  or straight DOLLARS..

They have to be paid some how..


If you make lots of Dollars per hour..  then it's faster and more worthwhile to pay for the cards instead of grinding them..




Now, RNG, I don't know why people don't like this,   because every perceptual system that is larger than a single person's computational capacity will feel like "RNG"..   RNG is just a fact of life, it's not a good or bad thing..  if anything,  it simulates exactly how regular life feels.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:39:53 »
I guess I must have passed this point in my life, because 8-10 years ago all I cared about was WoW, DoTA, LoL, and other online games with ladders and season.  Now, being married with kids has made me appreciate single-player games much more than I used to, as it's much easier for me to just pause a game of Civ V or Shadows of Mordor than it is to stop in the middle of a game of LoL or in the middle of a raid.  While I kind of miss the community that you have when playing competitive games online, especially with friends, it does make the times that I do get to play online games with those people seem a more fun.


I'm not suggesting you get a divorce, move to a cheap apartment, and play professional Moba..

But, it'll probably be way more fun,  with little responsibilities, and you won't have to put up with 18 years of DIRECT nagging.


But if we imagine it..  for a second..   that option to be almost completely happy exists..   We could never take such a route because society would fall apart..   but you see it there, and it's like.. sigh.. why god,  why make League of Legends, it's so fun..


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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:40:45 »
Personally my addicting games are Euro Truck simulator, Project cars, Faster than light, and Papers please ( it's stressful and addicting) . And most games that don't fall into the category of any of those i just dont spend much time on.

have you tried any of the moba connly33 ?

I've never really gotten into any moba's, then again i haven't tried very many.


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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 16:07:27 »
OMG,  I just did the "hey, I wonder if my netbook can run the Hearthstone"  thing..    As if it's not just another trick by my brain to get me to play hearthstone...

I even planned it out shortly,  I'd just install it,   check out how many FPS I was getting,  and then un-install it..

when has this ever gone according to plan....



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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 17:20:36 »
I usually get sucked into MMOs of the korean variety.  There's just so much to do in them, and they all seem to have classes and skill trees I enjoy.
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 20:32:11 »
I usually get sucked into MMOs of the korean variety.  There's just so much to do in them, and they all seem to have classes and skill trees I enjoy.

The problem I find with MMO,  is that they're more suited to younger guys with EVEN M0ar free time..

There's no way an Older dude has the time to really get super g00d at an MMO..   

Whereas LOL doesn't have as high a time requirement to get good.

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 20:49:59 »
I usually get sucked into MMOs of the korean variety.  There's just so much to do in them, and they all seem to have classes and skill trees I enjoy.

The problem I find with MMO,  is that they're more suited to younger guys with EVEN M0ar free time..

There's no way an Older dude has the time to really get super g00d at an MMO..   

Whereas LOL doesn't have as high a time requirement to get good.

I'm going through this dilemma right now withFFXIV, and the only way to cure it is with Quake or Dota 2. :'(

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:06:13 »
I usually get sucked into MMOs of the korean variety.  There's just so much to do in them, and they all seem to have classes and skill trees I enjoy.

The problem I find with MMO,  is that they're more suited to younger guys with EVEN M0ar free time..

There's no way an Older dude has the time to really get super g00d at an MMO..   

Whereas LOL doesn't have as high a time requirement to get good.

I'm going through this dilemma right now withFFXIV, and the only way to cure it is with Quake or Dota 2. :'(

Whatever u do,  don't throw Hearthstone into it..

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:18:14 »
WoW man...
High school time, eating frozen meat pies and frozen dumplings, the laziness to get into the shower, can't sleep thinking how I can get better in game, no RL social

nothing would ever feel the same, sometimes when I can't sleep I re-imagining my life in that time

call me weird
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:19:11 »
WoW man...
High school time, eating frozen meat pies and frozen dumplings, the laziness to get into the shower, can't sleep thinking how I can get better in game, no RL social

nothing would ever feel the same, sometimes when I can't sleep I re-imagining my life in that time

call me weird
This is me right now but not with games but with GH. Quit games because of GH

I don't see how you can play as much GH as you could LOL or Dota..

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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 21:23:23 »
WoW man...
High school time, eating frozen meat pies and frozen dumplings, the laziness to get into the shower, can't sleep thinking how I can get better in game, no RL social

nothing would ever feel the same, sometimes when I can't sleep I re-imagining my life in that time

call me weird
This is me right now but not with games but with GH. Quit games because of GH

I don't see how you can play as much GH as you could LOL or Dota..
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Re: The problem with Gaming
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 25 January 2016, 22:52:24 »
TP, I suggest you take a look at Duelyst. It's more "fun" then HS and less RNG'y.
Enjoy having more addictive games in your life.
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