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Good day everyone!

GB link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99711.msg2732481#msg2732481

Hi
it's ilouix_07,
Today I am here with an Interest Check for my latest project: The Volcano660.
This IC is a bit different. This is the first time that I am sharing my personal design. A project that I have developed with my team TianYue Lab. This is also the first time that I am working with manufacturers, so I hope you can be patient with me:p

First up, I proudly present to everyone a "weapon" which will immediately be familiar to most in our community members as it's size and layout is mostly derived from the Leopold FC660M/C.

I called the design the Volcano660, V660 or V66 in short. I haven't decided on either one yet. But, I will keep "Volcano" as the name for my line of keyboard designs for it holds a special meaning to me.

Here is a short IC form for you:
https://goo.gl/forms/FCM1S8zj8sIvHtne2

Please click here to find out more about gasket mounting and Volcano660:
https://goo.gl/LAHjJ6

For more updates, you can follow my instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/louix_07/
 
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Some Q&A here for the curious ones:
Q: If you ask why the name Volcano?
A: Volcanoes are very quiet on the exterior and can be very explosive when you dig deep into their cores. This actually pictures the keyboard's characteristics I am aiming to produce perfectly. The plan was to design an outer case with very simplistic styling cues to match the utilitarian concept I have in my mind. Combine the case with a very tight, compact key layout, a solid inner construction and this becomes that "silent beast" I have been sketching.....
 
Q: Why this design, the 660 layout?
A: None of the bells and whistles like RGB underglow or fanciful styling side cuts on bezel. Because, I strongly believed in that a true custom keyboard should be typed on and to be experienced by the touch first and foremost. Not just to be viewed as beautiful collectibles and left on the shelf and gather dust if I put it bluntly. Also, I have done enough of 60% already and wanted to progress gradually to other larger layouts.
So you can say the keyboard I've designed looks like a fully programmable FC660 cased in an aluminum outer shell. But,I will tell you it's not the same in every single angle the way I viewed it. Down to even the top surface and the bottom, I think I should let everyone find that little surprise in the pictures I am going to leak.
 
Q: What do you actually want to set out to achieve with this kit?
A: With all those ideas I've saved up until now, I set out to design the V66/660 with a single goal in mind and that is offer it with the best in all aspects of a premium custom kit. Give it a solid CNC milled case with the finer anodizing treatments I can find, offer every kit in the best conditions that I can possibly.
 
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I believed everything has to do with how keyboards are constructed internally. With that said, I have only seen such mounting methods ever used on a few premiums and also only on the more costly custom kits made in the past....
 
And if I haven't hinted enough already, then......
A picture paints a thousand words, I will let the images show you what I have been looking to realize.
 
I cannot stress enough that this will be one of the more interesting/unique kit.
So, let us enjoy the excitement of an Interest Check first before we talk shop with the full specifications later when I launch this very special buy.

Happy typing, Everyone! ;)
Volcano660 + GMK9009

top view

side view
(renders done by janglad_, updated on 1st/Nov)


Disassembled pic


render 1

render 2

with sa profile keycap

with cherry profile keycap

Redesigned weight

Top case

Connector cut out(Type C updated 4th Nov)


Specifications:
1. Made with 6063 aluminium for case body, brass for plate and weight.

2. Gasket Mounting Design. (To read more about the gasket mount: https://goo.gl/LAHjJ6)

3. Typing angle is 5 degrees.

4. Case has a natural curved CNC milled top. Option for straight edged CNC milled top will be offered.

5. support for ISO plate available

6. USB type C connector

7. Nett weight of each keyboard case is approximately 2.7KG.

8. Premium materials will be used for the packaging of each keyboard. Boxes will include all case accessories inside eg: 16 pcs of rubber dampers, gold screws in M3 sizing and rubber feet.


Design:
you may check out this short video:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bpb8g_RjD2-/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Colors:
TBD

PCB:
Now i have found 2 PCB solutions:
1. Bootmapper semi-transparent PCB from Percent Studio Designer.
2. QMK PCB from Percent Studio Designer.(updated by 25/Oct)

We will now be working with Clueboard for the Volcano’s PCB. It will feature a QMK PCB designed by u/skullydazed @clueboards!(Nov 10)

price:
estimated 330 usd per set.(edited by 25th/Oct)
Estimated price will likely see an increase due to the changes made to PCB. please see Update1 in below (Nov 10)


For more, will update soon.

Feels free to follow my instagram for more keyboards and designs:
https://www.instagram.com/louix_07/

Thanks
« Last Edit: Wed, 06 March 2019, 10:08:17 by ilouis_07 »

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 04:52:25 »
Updates:
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update 1(10th Nov)
Change of PCB:

We hear you! We want to provide everyone with a higher quality keyboard, and have decided on quite a major change to improve the Volcano660. We will now be working with Clueboard for the Volcano’s PCB. It will feature a QMK PCB designed by u/skullydazed @clueboards!



Changes to timeline:

Due to the change of PCB vendor, we will need to make adjustments to / redesign the current case. The new prototype is slated to arrive in 6-7 weeks.



In the meantime…

Colour samples: We are hoping get some anodized colour samples from the factory. These would be to test the accuracy of anodizing of colours and are not the finalised colours of the Volcano660.

We might ask them to give us samples of these colours:

Will keep everyone posted after receiving samples of the anodizing.

To Do List:
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0. Determine the anodizing colors for GB.(05 Nov)
1. PCB compatible with alps switch.
2. Plate for alps switch.
3. Prototype.
4. Assemble it, video for typing sound.
5. if everything is ready, let's make this GB happen.

what i have done?
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1. Finish the final design with my team.(27/Oct)
2. Paid prototype fee, prototype may take 2 weeks starting from the end of Oct.
3. 30th/Oct, proto payment refunded from factory, proto price increased:(
4. Render Finished.(30th Oct)
5. New factory found for prototyping.(31th OCt)
6. Factory cant provide estimated prototyping time, so prototyping cancelled again:(3th Nov)
7. Prototype factory confirmed, est time for prototype arrive my side is about mid of Dec.(5th Nov)
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 November 2018, 11:14:21 by ilouis_07 »

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 04:54:04 »
Hot, damn!

*ready to pounce*

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 05:41:52 »
I do like the simplicity of it!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 06:27:14 »
1 for me please. Also can you show the underside of the board?


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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:01:46 »
I'd be in for one!

The option of the BT pcb sounds pretty cool, so that'd be my vote.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:09:19 »
This is amazing (been following this project on Instagram). Would you consider adding ISO support. It doesn't need to be on the main plate (I can totally understand why people don't want that), I would pay extra for the separate plate.

Really looking forward to this!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:18:32 »
Wow, I love the look of this, I'm in!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:22:04 »
Hot, damn!

*ready to pounce*

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:24:01 »
1 for me please. Also can you show the underside of the board?


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the final design for the base haven't decided yet. Now is blank :P

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:26:06 »
This is amazing (been following this project on Instagram). Would you consider adding ISO support. It doesn't need to be on the main plate (I can totally understand why people don't want that), I would pay extra for the separate plate.

Really looking forward to this!
Thanks buddy, i will count ISO plate in for sure, but i won't do universal plate(for enter key). So it will be separate ISO plate and standard plate:)

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 08:04:15 »
Yasss

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:01:31 »
I liked the idea of the concealed bottom weight, some of the keyboards I owned with weights showing on the bottoms sounds hollow without insulation foam in them.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:08:54 »
1 for me please. Also can you show the underside of the board?


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the final design for the base haven't decided yet. Now is blank :P


Hope it wont stay blank and show some accents of the brass or something.

Also plate material options like pc or copper would be really interesting with a gasket mount. Hope your factory is able to do it :)


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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:25:37 »
This is amazing (been following this project on Instagram). Would you consider adding ISO support. It doesn't need to be on the main plate (I can totally understand why people don't want that), I would pay extra for the separate plate.

Really looking forward to this!
Thanks buddy, i will count ISO plate in for sure, but i won't do universal plate(for enter key). So it will be separate ISO plate and standard plate:)
Amazing! Thanks a lot

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:26:30 »
+1 for brass weight in the back ;)

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:34:00 »
+1 for brass weight in the back ;)
have 3 options, haven't decided yet:
1, inside
2, go through the base like "T" shape
3, outside

personally, i prefer 1 or 3.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 09:39:53 »
+1 for brass weight in the back ;)
have 3 options, haven't decided yet:
1, inside
2, go through the base like "T" shape
3, outside

personally, i prefer 1 or 3.
+1

Anything but cut a hole to show the weight through it like no.2 option you said.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 10:35:35 »
I'm innnnn!!

This was the 660 I've been waiting for

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 11:25:46 »
You had me at Bluetooth (can’t stand cables) :)
Good luck, that’s a great looking board!


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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 11:33:50 »
any chance of Alps support?

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 12:09:16 »
Count me in!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 12:58:17 »
Will clueboard PCBs fit this? Will FC660m PCBs fit this?

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 13:08:07 »
good luck

gaskets are a ***** and a half

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 13:19:54 »
Love the 660 layout, following this project with tentative interest.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 13:58:26 »
Interested.

Just a question, why the brass weight doesn't show up from the bottom? 




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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 16:17:22 »
Looks great! In for one.

Always interested in more 66 key layouts.

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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 17:10:28 »
That's an intersting design on my favorite layout. In for 1.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 17:14:21 »
I'll be honest, I'm not really sure I understand what the gaskets do. But! I'm always up for trying new and different things. I also really like this aesthetically and that it's a 65-ish with a seemingly standard layout. I would get one!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 17:31:12 »
Exterior weight in my opinion.

Colour options?

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:37:07 »
Love the 660 layout, following this project with tentative interest.
Thanks

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:40:11 »
Interested.

Just a question, why the brass weight doesn't show up from the bottom?
It’s option 3, I will do more renders for all the options.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 19:42:28 »
Exterior weight in my opinion.

Colour options?
Color options tbd when prototyping, I will update it after a while:)

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 20:56:48 »
Interesting,

What are the heights of front and rear?

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 21:28:50 »
when is someone going to make a gasket mount 75%
Visit the Typing Test and try!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 22:05:38 »
I'll be honest, I'm not really sure I understand what the gaskets do. But! I'm always up for trying new and different things. I also really like this aesthetically and that it's a 65-ish with a seemingly standard layout. I would get one!
Actually this mounting system can produce a better bottom sound when you typing, the rubber between plate and case will remove or reduce the unwanted vibrations. Instead of using TOP/Bottom mounting, I believed that this gasket mount can add a compression force on plate when we tight the screws. When user typing on the keyboard, the force will be decomposed to thousands of contact points on rubber stripe(instead of 6-8 screws point for top/bottom mounting system). It’s a tricky problem but I will try my best to make it happens.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 00:55:34 »
Super interested in this! I love the look of the 660 layout, and have been curious about gasket mount boards. Also really liking the simple and clean case! Hope the price stays at your estimate, because that seems very doable ;)

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:01:35 »
Super interested in this! I love the look of the 660 layout, and have been curious about gasket mount boards. Also really liking the simple and clean case! Hope the price stays at your estimate, because that seems very doable ;)
i will let IC running 2 weeks and make the final decision for the designs, after that send to factory do prototyping, confirm the color options at that time also. For price, try to control under that amount if possible:)
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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:03:17 »
good luck

gaskets are a ***** and a half
:thumb: i will try it :)

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:04:03 »
Super interested in this! I love the look of the 660 layout, and have been curious about gasket mount boards. Also really liking the simple and clean case! Hope the price stays at your estimate, because that seems very doable ;)
i will left IC running 2 weeks and make the final decision for the designs, after that send to factory do prototyping, confirm the color options at that time also. For price, try to control under that amount if possible:)

You know how long estimated when GB opens? When you receive prototype?

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:09:36 »
Super interested in this! I love the look of the 660 layout, and have been curious about gasket mount boards. Also really liking the simple and clean case! Hope the price stays at your estimate, because that seems very doable ;)
i will left IC running 2 weeks and make the final decision for the designs, after that send to factory do prototyping, confirm the color options at that time also. For price, try to control under that amount if possible:)

You know how long estimated when GB opens? When you receive prototype?
not sure....i will slow down and doing this one very carefully, probably running ic 2 weeks then i will make the final design, prototype it out and do some assembling video, typing test video and etc....

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 01:16:58 »
Super interested in this! I love the look of the 660 layout, and have been curious about gasket mount boards. Also really liking the simple and clean case! Hope the price stays at your estimate, because that seems very doable ;)
i will left IC running 2 weeks and make the final decision for the designs, after that send to factory do prototyping, confirm the color options at that time also. For price, try to control under that amount if possible:)

You know how long estimated when GB opens? When you receive prototype?
not sure....i will slow down and doing this one very carefully, probably running ic 2 weeks then i will make the final design, prototype it out and do some assembling video, typing test video and etc....
Take your time to make this happen

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 06:33:58 »
I'll be honest, I'm not really sure I understand what the gaskets do. But! I'm always up for trying new and different things. I also really like this aesthetically and that it's a 65-ish with a seemingly standard layout. I would get one!
Actually this mounting system can produce a better bottom sound when you typing, the rubber between plate and case will remove or reduce the unwanted vibrations. Instead of using TOP/Bottom mounting, I believed that this gasket mount can add a compression force on plate when we tight the screws. When user typing on the keyboard, the force will be decomposed to thousands of contact points on rubber stripe(instead of 6-8 screws point for top/bottom mounting system). It’s a tricky problem but I will try my best to make it happens.
Thank you for taking the time to help me understand! I had a couple of users explain it to me in discord and putting their information with yours has helped, I think I get it and it seems really interesting to me!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 07:23:36 »
Interesting,

What are the heights of front and rear?
front 2cm, rear 3.3cm

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 07:40:03 »
definitely IN!

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 08:13:25 »
Nice! gotta support my fellow Singaporean.

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 10:33:16 »
Find some good explanations about gasket mounting system and i did it in same way for Volcano660 version. Hope it can help you guys.

op link as reference: https://brianleereviews.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/release-notes-keycult-no-1-2018s-board-of-the-year/

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 11:59:45 »
Interested :thumb: and hope there will be an exterior weight.

Looking forward to the GB

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Re: [IC]Volcano660, bring the gasket mount back
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 18 October 2018, 13:13:12 »
@ilouis_07, do you know if this will support clueboard pcb or the original fc660m pcb?