UK "Brexit" Referendum

[Air tree]

As of right now it's likely that the Leave will win. I can't believe it.


Quite surprising after all the polling indicated it would be remain.

[rowdy]

The world could be in for some interesting times then.

I wonder what will happen to the Commonwealth.

[Photekq]

Feeling cosy af right now tbh fam

[hwood34]

rip gbp

[Shadovved]

rip gbp

Almost 13% against USD.

I am much excited. Luckily I didnt buy in on the rise a few days ago...

[JaccoW]

Time will tell what will happen next. Still kind of bummed they left.

[Photekq]

I really can't quite believe it. We have succeeded, even in Wales!

To all of our European friends : We bid you a loving farewell. We adore you, we just don't adore that Union or The Commission. We're sending help; hopefully France or NL will follow us on the next lifeboat.

[Spopepro]

[chyros]

Great.

[SpAmRaY]

So we can expect the world markets to crash today then?

According to the 'experts' anyway.

[iri]

I was hoping Brits are smart as a nation... What a mistake that was.

[MOZ]

I think they made the right decision.

[fohat.digs]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

[Shadovved]

So we can expect the world markets to crash today then?

According to the 'experts' anyway.

They already did. The Europe and Asian indexes anyway.

Major currencies gone crazy as well.

[iri]

Yeah, I already feel the results of the ****ing Brexit since I'm going to the Eurozone next Monday.

[xondat]

A main leaving point was that £350m would go to the NHS instead of the EU. A leader of a party that supported leaving said on television that it was a mistake this morning. Sigh.

[hwood34]

hahahhahaha

[iri]

A main leaving point was that £350m would go to the NHS instead of the EU. A leader of a party that supported leaving said on television that it was a mistake this morning. Sigh.

Link for the interested:

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/746218028195426305

[kenmai9]

I have no idea what's going on

[Fire Brand]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

A lot were up yours votes and Im fine with that, rather not have random people in other countries telling me what I can and can't do or can and cannot trade to, they can bugger right off.
anyway you could say you US people are idiots for choosing independence instead of being ruled by our glorious nation, still better than your vote in the coming weeks you get to choose between a literal mirror of the nazi rise to power, or satan have fun ^~^

[absyrd]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

A lot were up yours votes and Im fine with that, rather not have random people in other countries telling me what I can and can't do or can and cannot trade to, they can bugger right off.
anyway you could say you US people are idiots for choosing independence instead of being ruled by our glorious nation, still better than your vote in the coming weeks you get to choose between a literal mirror of the nazi rise to power, or satan have fun ^~^

Deflect much?

[Fire Brand]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

A lot were up yours votes and Im fine with that, rather not have random people in other countries telling me what I can and can't do or can and cannot trade to, they can bugger right off.
anyway you could say you US people are idiots for choosing independence instead of being ruled by our glorious nation, still better than your vote in the coming weeks you get to choose between a literal mirror of the nazi rise to power, or satan have fun ^~^

Deflect much?

Not really I just voiced my opinion? if anything you US people should be more worried for your own future than looking into ours )

[chyros]

A main leaving point was that £350m would go to the NHS instead of the EU. A leader of a party that supported leaving said on television that it was a mistake this morning. Sigh.

Surely no-one actually actually believed that . It IS Farage after all, I don't think he's ever said ANYTHING that made sense or was based in fact .

[jbondeson]

I think the UK will be an interesting case in how an EU exit could work. They are certainly poised to do it the least painfully (and lord know it won't be painless) as they still have the GBP. If a referendum in, say, France succeeded first it would be a whole lot more painful.

I won't really weigh in on the political aspects of it, but from an economic viewpoint it will certainly be interesting to watch.

[chuckdee]

I think the UK will be an interesting case in how an EU exit could work. They are certainly poised to do it the least painfully (and lord know it won't be painless) as they still have the GBP. If a referendum in, say, France succeeded first it would be a whole lot more painful.

I won't really weigh in on the political aspects of it, but from an economic viewpoint it will certainly be interesting to watch.

Agreed.  Especially during the interim.  This is going to take a couple of years by prediction.  It's sort of like during the divorce, the time that you have to coexist until one party or the other moves out.

Interesting to watch is I think a great phrase... like a trainwreck in slow motion?  When you're glad you're not in it?

[JaccoW]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

A lot were up yours votes and Im fine with that, rather not have random people in other countries telling me what I can and can't do or can and cannot trade to, they can bugger right off.
anyway you could say you US people are idiots for choosing independence instead of being ruled by our glorious nation, still better than your vote in the coming weeks you get to choose between a literal mirror of the nazi rise to power, or satan have fun ^~^

Deflect much?

Not really I just voiced my opinion? if anything you US people should be more worried for your own future than looking into ours )

To be fair, that Boris dude reminds me of Trump.

[demik]

Tis but a flesh wound

[Shadovved]

I think the UK will be an interesting case in how an EU exit could work. They are certainly poised to do it the least painfully (and lord know it won't be painless) as they still have the GBP. If a referendum in, say, France succeeded first it would be a whole lot more painful.

I won't really weigh in on the political aspects of it, but from an economic viewpoint it will certainly be interesting to watch.

Agreed.  Especially during the interim.  This is going to take a couple of years by prediction.  It's sort of like during the divorce, the time that you have to coexist until one party or the other moves out.

Interesting to watch is I think a great phrase... like a trainwreck in slow motion?  When you're glad you're not in it?

I think what's more interesting is to see how the other major economies and MNCs will react to this...

I think there's too much volatility and nobody really knows what to do until at least until UK sits down with EU on the T&Cs.

[jbondeson]

I think what's more interesting is to see how the other major economies and MNCs will react to this...

I think there's too much volatility and nobody really knows what to do until at least until UK sits down with EU on the T&Cs.

With Cameron resigning that uncertainty just get worse until Oct when a new PM gets the unenviable position of beginning those negotiations. Hell, if the main proponents get their way they don't even want to start the process until 2018!

[Fire Brand]

Morons. I wonder how many of those were protest or "up yours" votes that are deeply regretted this morning.

A lot were up yours votes and Im fine with that, rather not have random people in other countries telling me what I can and can't do or can and cannot trade to, they can bugger right off.
anyway you could say you US people are idiots for choosing independence instead of being ruled by our glorious nation, still better than your vote in the coming weeks you get to choose between a literal mirror of the nazi rise to power, or satan have fun ^~^

Deflect much?

Not really I just voiced my opinion? if anything you US people should be more worried for your own future than looking into ours )

To be fair, that Boris dude reminds me of Trump.

its the hair

hopefully conservatives will be ousted before long so we won't need to worry its like Thatcher in reverse now \0/ conservatives put us in the EU now they take us out, at least we never changed from the pound so it won't effect us as much as people speculate

[Waateva]

Well, with the UK gone from the EU that means the US is back on top for worldwide GDP! 

#1 in GDP, military spending, health care costs, and fat people.  America, **** yeah!

[Niomosy]

Great.  The US gets to sit back all pompous and sneer at the UK for doing something seen as foolish this time around.

That and, those Gaziano & Girling shoes may find their way into my shoe budget constraints now if the GBP drops some more.  Come up 1 GBP coming up less than 1 USD!

[iri]

Morons..

Hey, it's democracy! The will of the people!

[chuckdee]

Interesting infographic found on another site:



http://www.ukgeographics.co.uk/blog/social-grade-a-b-c1-c2-d-e

[Altis]

Interesting infographic found on another site:

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http://www.ukgeographics.co.uk/blog/social-grade-a-b-c1-c2-d-e

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

[Air tree]

Interesting infographic found on another site:

Show Image

http://www.ukgeographics.co.uk/blog/social-grade-a-b-c1-c2-d-e

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Umm....ok?

[iri]

Interesting infographic found on another site:

Show Image

http://www.ukgeographics.co.uk/blog/social-grade-a-b-c1-c2-d-e

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Wow, ****AmericansSay from a Canadian.

[Photekq]

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Wow, ****AmericansSay from a Canadian.

He's not wrong.

[iri]

I won't even dispute what he said, but it has **** all to do with the Remain votes.

[R1N3]

I won't even dispute what he said, but it has **** all to do with the Remain votes.

lmfao

[iri]

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/1TCxMOV

[Air tree]

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/1TCxMOV

But what about mah £350M a week? come on iri, such noob.

[fohat.digs]

Thanks, Jacobolus. Isn't it funny how Monty Python covered it all decades ago?

[emdude]

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Wow, ****AmericansSay from a Canadian.

He's not wrong.

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

[noisyturtle]

I already hate the term 'Brexit'

Something about the way the word looks and sounds phonetically makes me illogically angry.

[Waateva]

I already hate the term 'Brexit'

Something about the way the word looks and sounds phonetically makes me illogically angry.

+1

[Altis]

I won't even dispute what he said, but it has **** all to do with the Remain votes.

Except that young, post-secondary educated people were by far the most remain voters. It's worth noting though that they also had the lowest turnout.

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Wow, ****AmericansSay from a Canadian.

He's not wrong.

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

Nothing wrong with teaching that -- what an absurd strawman on what I've said. When material is selectively taught so that people come out in full and open favour of open borders, high socialism, and even communism, one has to wonder what's going on there.

Since I've been in and following post-secondary education for the past decade, you would hardly believe what people believe there these days (as a result of what's being taught). It's common to support censorship of any perspective they dislike. It's common to support racial and gender discrimination and segregation, so long as it's the kind they want.

I'm not sure it will change anytime soon, though. It didn't used to bother me one bit as I generally agreed with what they were saying, but the last few years they've abandoned evidence and reason and have just become another religious group, as far as they act. The tantrums and calls for violence when they don't get their way is what's most concerning. They're so used to getting their way -- hence their dramatic reaction to the leave results.

I think both sides are way blowing out of proportions the effects that the Brexit will have. Just because they're out, doesn't mean the economy will collapse, or that immigration will stop, or even that they won't voluntarily implement some EU policies in order to maintain consistent trade. People are being so dramatic about it.

[demik]

This brexit is brazy bruh

[fohat.digs]

Since I've been in and following post-secondary education for the past decade, you would hardly believe what people believe there these days (as a result of what's being taught). It's common to support censorship of any perspective they dislike. It's common to support racial and gender discrimination and segregation, so long as it's the kind they want.

I'm not sure it will change anytime soon, though. It didn't used to bother me one bit as I generally agreed with what they were saying, but the last few years they've abandoned evidence and reason and have just become another religious group, as far as they act. The tantrums and calls for violence when they don't get their way is what's most concerning. They're so used to getting their way -- hence their dramatic reaction to the leave results.

As the father of 2 children entering college in the very near future, it is deeply disturbing to me to read this.

My children's beliefs are the diametric opposite of what you describe, but I don't even want them in an environment like that.

[iri]

Since I've been in and following post-secondary education for the past decade, you would hardly believe what people believe there these days (as a result of what's being taught). It's common to support censorship of any perspective they dislike. It's common to support racial and gender discrimination and segregation, so long as it's the kind they want.

I'm not sure it will change anytime soon, though. It didn't used to bother me one bit as I generally agreed with what they were saying, but the last few years they've abandoned evidence and reason and have just become another religious group, as far as they act. The tantrums and calls for violence when they don't get their way is what's most concerning. They're so used to getting their way -- hence their dramatic reaction to the leave results.

As the father of 2 children entering college in the very near future, it is deeply disturbing to me to read this.

My children's beliefs are the diametric opposite of what you describe, but I don't even want them in an environment like that.

It's so fascinating to read about American colleges in a thread about Brexit.

[emdude]

What a shocker. Public schools, colleges, and universities all train people to be favorable towards socialism, communism, and open borders.

You can thank the "social studies" departments for making it all possible.

Wow, ****AmericansSay from a Canadian.

He's not wrong.

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

Nothing wrong with teaching that -- what an absurd strawman on what I've said. When material is selectively taught so that people come out in full and open favour of open borders, high socialism, and even communism, one has to wonder what's going on there.

Compassion and selflessness are ideas embedded in the very fabric of Socialism and Communism, not the totalitarian "communism" of China or other authoritarian states, mind you.

If kids are taught to be in favor of open borders and whatnot, then good.  And while I agree that these ideas might not be economically or politically convenient at the moment, they should still be inspired to work towards such goals.

[Photekq]

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

Compassion is desirable in moderation. Too much of it is idiotic and dangerous.

[Tym]

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

Compassion is desirable in moderation. Too much of it is idiotic and dangerous.

Bet you voted out

[iri]

Damn public school system, teaching kids to show compassion for one another and not be selfish.

Compassion is desirable in moderation. Too much of it is idiotic and dangerous.

Bet you voted out

He's 18 already?

[Photekq]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

[emdude]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

And democracy too in excess can be idiotic and dangerous.  You are probably aware of the quote by your countryman Churchill..

Whether that will end up being the case here is yet to be seen!

[Photekq]

And democracy too in excess can be idiotic and dangerous.  You are probably aware of the quote by your countryman Churchill..

Perhaps, but I don't believe it can be anywhere near as damaging as too much compassion. I'm no fan of Winnie the Warmonger

[redbanshee]

Id like to thank all the people that voted out for tanking all my stocks this morning.... Over $5k hit, and what for? So they can **** over their (and everyones) economy? I dont get it. 

[fohat.digs]

When I was born, Truman, Stalin, and Churchill were considered to be the "leaders" of the world.

Yet it is ever more perplexing to me, by the day, how it is that "socialism" and "communism" which are, in theory, the most egalitarian and compassionate of social structures, ended up, as implemented by 20th-century humans, in the worst and most repressive and oppressive governmental structures in the world.

Clearly, it is the humans that are the problem, not the concepts.

[emdude]

Fortunately, with the way we treat the world and each other, we are but a war or cataclysmic event from solving that problem! 

[Tym]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

[iri]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

[Tym]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did, but not for out of Europe, just because I didn't want to vote for tories or labour (nevermind lib dems) and was always going to vote remain in the referendum

[iri]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did

Of course you did. I used to get UKIP brochures saying "Tym from England wants you out".

It's ****ing sad when UKIP is the lesser evil.

[rowdy]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did

Of course you did. I used to get UKIP brochures saying "Tym from England wants you out".

It's ****ing sad when UKIP is the lesser evil.

Isn't that true of most elections?

It's a choice between the party you don't want to get in power and the party you really don't want to get in power.

[chuckdee]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did

Of course you did. I used to get UKIP brochures saying "Tym from England wants you out".

It's ****ing sad when UKIP is the lesser evil.

Isn't that true of most elections?

It's a choice between the party you don't want to get in power and the party you really don't want to get in power.

And Cthulhu.  Never forget the Elder God.  Why vote for the lesser evil?

[rowdy]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did

Of course you did. I used to get UKIP brochures saying "Tym from England wants you out".

It's ****ing sad when UKIP is the lesser evil.

Isn't that true of most elections?

It's a choice between the party you don't want to get in power and the party you really don't want to get in power.

And Cthulhu.  Never forget the Elder God.  Why vote for the lesser evil?

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[JaccoW]

Id like to thank all the people that voted out for tanking all my stocks this morning.... Over $5k hit, and what for? So they can **** over their (and everyones) economy? I dont get it. 

Best time to buy extra stock right now.

[chyros]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did

Of course you did. I used to get UKIP brochures saying "Tym from England wants you out".

It's ****ing sad when UKIP is the lesser evil.

Isn't that true of most elections?

It's a choice between the party you don't want to get in power and the party you really don't want to get in power.

And Cthulhu.  Never forget the Elder God.  Why vote for the lesser evil?

I think I'd rather see Cthulhu in power than Nigel Farage as happy as he was when the referendum results came out. Cthulhu Fhtagn!

[swimmingbird]

This is by far the most stupid ****ing **** I've seen this year

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote


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[Spopepro]

Bet you voted out

Of course I did! After all, I do love democracy.

You noodle... Utter noodle

Didn't you vote UKIP yourself?

I did, but not for out of Europe, just because I didn't want to vote for tories or labour (nevermind lib dems) and was always going to vote remain in the referendum

But those letters... They stand for...

My head hurts.

[Lord of Narwhals]

Yet it is ever more perplexing to me, by the day, how it is that "socialism" and "communism" which are, in theory, the most egalitarian and compassionate of social structures, ended up, as implemented by 20th-century humans, in the worst and most repressive and oppressive governmental structures in the world.

Clearly, it is the humans that are the problem, not the concepts.

It's worth noting that Lenin really didn't want Stalin to take over.

"Stalin is too coarse and this defect, although quite tolerable in our midst and in dealing among us Communists, becomes intolerable in a Secretary-General. That is why I suggest that the comrades think about a way of removing Stalin from that post and appointing another man in his stead who in all other respects differs from Comrade Stalin in having only one advantage, namely, that of being more tolerant, more loyal, more polite and more considerate to the comrades, less capricious, etc. This circumstance may appear to be a negligible detail. But I think that from the standpoint of safeguards against a split and from the standpoint of what I wrote above about the relationship between Stalin and Trotsky it is not a [minor] detail, but it is a detail which can assume decisive importance." - Vladimir Lenin

From Lenin's Testament.

Now for some more on-topic notes:

The Brexit referendum is one of the best examples of why direct democracy tends to be pretty useless.
"We have this hugely important and complicated thing. Let's have the people decide what we do with it!"   smh
Complicated matters such as the EU should be decided by people who actually know what the EU is and does. It just becomes depressingly obvious that people had no idea what the ****  they voted about when Wales, a country so poor that it receives over £500 million a year from the EU, voted leave. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
In the end people are irrational and thus tend to vote with their feelings instead of with their brains. Complicated matters such as this one should be decided by experts (who've been appointed by a representative democracy).

People voted leave for mainly two reasons: nationalism (which is highly overrated) and xenophobia/racism.
This was a win for Farage and all the other UKIP ****s. And now right wing populists across Europe will use this to try to get their countries to leave the EU, it didn't take long for Wilders to suggest a Dutch referendum.


David Cameron, unificator of Ireland, abandoner of Gibraltar, liberator of Scots.

And whilst I'm really not a fan of Cameron he can't possibly be anywhere near as bad as Boris Johnson.

[Photekq]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

[Lord of Narwhals]

... same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

Not everyone who voted leave is a racist, but everyone who is a racist voted leave.

And I still don't get how people can defend UKIP. They're an inherently racist party, there's absolutely no doubt about it.
Nigel Farage wants to abolish racial discrimination laws ffs! How more obvious can it get?

Mr Farage said it is “ludicrous” that employers cannot discriminate between Britons and someone from overseas.
And when asked if he would retain a ban on discrimination on the grounds of race or colour, he said: "No... because we take the view, we are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind."

[Volucris]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

[Spopepro]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

I do think the Britain First crowd are racists, and I also think they have the right to participate in their government. Photekq and I are diametrically opposed in ideology, but I absolutely agree that whinging about how democracy doesn't work when you don't get the outcome you wanted is crap.

[demik]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

lol

Road signs.

[dante]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

In my neck of the woods (Suburbia Chicago) the number of Muslim immigrants has noticeably gone up.  Some days I feel like a stranger in my own town.

I'm not against people seeking a better life - I'm just wondering what the tipping point is going to be when people start demanding Sharia law.

[Lord of Narwhals]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

The fear mongering regarding immigration in Europe is ****ing ridiculous.
Let's look at the numbers.
Last year the net migration from non-EU countries to the UK was 188,000. That's a whopping 0.29% of the population. To claim that this is the UK's biggest problem right now and something that must be stopped is ****ing laughable and a depressing victory for the EDL.

[SpAmRaY]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

In my neck of the woods (Suburbia Chicago) the number of Muslim immigrants has noticeably gone up.  Some days I feel like a stranger in my own town.

I'm not against people seeking a better life - I'm just wondering what the tipping point is going to be when people start demanding Sharia law.

My farmer friends in Illinois tell me goat prices have went way up while cow prices are down, maybe it's muslims...maybe its not....

[Tym]

Id like to thank all the people that voted out for tanking all my stocks this morning.... Over $5k hit, and what for? So they can **** over their (and everyones) economy? I dont get it. 

Best time to buy extra stock right now.

Don't worry I've lost 5x that  ) Good times

[demik]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

In my neck of the woods (Suburbia Chicago) the number of Muslim immigrants has noticeably gone up.  Some days I feel like a stranger in my own town.

I'm not against people seeking a better life - I'm just wondering what the tipping point is going to be when people start demanding Sharia law.

My farmer friends in Illinois tell me goat prices have went way up while cow prices are down, maybe it's muslims...maybe its not....

I officially have cancer because I read this.

[SpAmRaY]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

In my neck of the woods (Suburbia Chicago) the number of Muslim immigrants has noticeably gone up.  Some days I feel like a stranger in my own town.

I'm not against people seeking a better life - I'm just wondering what the tipping point is going to be when people start demanding Sharia law.

My farmer friends in Illinois tell me goat prices have went way up while cow prices are down, maybe it's muslims...maybe its not....

I officially have cancer because I read this.

Being in California your going to get it one way or the other...

P.S.: And to clarify I literally had a farmer tell me yesterday goats prices were up due to muslims this all started because the people I was with were discussing Haitian cooking and the farmer butted in. I have no say in the matter as I don't personally have a desire to own any goats or do anything else with them.

[Waateva]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

In my neck of the woods (Suburbia Chicago) the number of Muslim immigrants has noticeably gone up.  Some days I feel like a stranger in my own town.

I'm not against people seeking a better life - I'm just wondering what the tipping point is going to be when people start demanding Sharia law.

My farmer friends in Illinois tell me goat prices have went way up while cow prices are down, maybe it's muslims...maybe its not....

I officially have cancer because I read this.

Ass cancer?

[fohat.digs]

I don't personally have a desire to own any goats or do anything else with them.

I am surprised. Goat is not easy to cook but can be excellent.

[SpAmRaY]

I don't personally have a desire to own any goats or do anything else with them.

I am surprised. Goat is not easy to cook but can be excellent.

We've got the dogs, cats and currently chickens, we've had rabbits in the past I'm just not good with raising animals so I let the neighbors do it and when they ask if we want some pork or beef I buy in. I probably wouldn't turn down trying out some cooked goat I just have zero desire to raise them or buy them etc.

[tp4tissue]

Time to reopen my forex account..

[dante]

Time to reopen my forex account..

Are you going to invest in goats?

[tp4tissue]

Time to reopen my forex account..

Are you going to invest in goats?

Secret....

[henz]

Tp buys ramen stock

[tp4tissue]

Tp buys ramen stock

No, i already ate my own supply... 

[demik]

Tp buys ramen stock

No, i already ate my own supply... 

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You'd be a terrible drug dealer.

Literally one of the rules in the ten crack commandments.

Never get high on your own supply.

[tp4tissue]

Tp buys ramen stock

No, i already ate my own supply... 

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You'd be a terrible drug dealer.

Literally one of the rules in the ten crack commandments.

Never get high on your own supply.

Tp4 Straight Edge.. 

[iri]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

[Volucris]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

[Waateva]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

So you're saying the 2nd largest religion in the world is incompatible with modern society?  Never seen someone just write off almost 1/4 of the world's population as "incompatible" so quickly, quite classy.

[swimmingbird]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

Hey we trust most decisions to a meritocracy I don't see how this is some huge step towards the oppression of some groups

Hell just give poeple that have post graduate degrees 2 votes instead of 1

Give teachers and nurses 3 votes instead of 1

done

[billnye]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

Hey we trust most decisions to a meritocracy I don't see how this is some huge step towards the oppression of some groups

Hell just give poeple that have post graduate degrees 2 votes instead of 1

Give teachers and nurses 3 votes instead of 1

done

[swimmingbird]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

Hey we trust most decisions to a meritocracy I don't see how this is some huge step towards the oppression of some groups

Hell just give poeple that have post graduate degrees 2 votes instead of 1

Give teachers and nurses 3 votes instead of 1

done

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[GenKaan]

On one hand Im happy people get to decide things instead of lobby groups, on the other Im sad that the majority value nationalism over everything else
My understanding is that the major reason why they would leave was to get more control over laws and regulations. Something that is at best half true since they will still be forced to follow EU trade laws, while losing all influence over them

Its going to be interesting to see how EU will try to **** England, because just letting them leave I assume is not an option because then more countries will leave

[rowdy]

This is why stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote

The number of times I've seen kids on social media say this...

Would you like to impose rules on who can vote, aside from voting age of course? Perhaps imposing a minimum level of education or level of intelligence would be a good idea. What do you think? Hmm.. but surely by correlation that would result mostly in less working class people and minorities being able to vote.

Honestly, saying that "these people shouldn't be able to vote" is as bad as it gets; you are saying that people who don't share your worldview should have no say in the affairs of the country or the world. Most of the people who I've seen saying this are the same people who call UKIP, Leave campaign fascists and racists. It's hypocritical. Sad!

Hey we trust most decisions to a meritocracy I don't see how this is some huge step towards the oppression of some groups

Hell just give poeple that have post graduate degrees 2 votes instead of 1

Give teachers and nurses 3 votes instead of 1

done

The teachers at my daughter's school should get one vote between them.

Even they they'd fsck it up.

[demik]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

Not just Islam. Religion is ass backwards for modern society.

[iri]

To **** England and Wales. Scotland and NI will say goodbye to the Kingdom eventually.

[fohat.digs]

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

Not just Islam. Religion is ass backwards for modern society.

Back in the Bronze Age religion was invented as sort of a surrogate for both government and science.

Today, we understand that government and science are very important and need to be based on facts and reality.

There is no problem with religion today as long as it does not butt into government or science, where it has no business and does not belong.

[Lord of Narwhals]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

Sounds like you haven't met many Muslims.
A lot of time you can't even tell if they're Muslims or not. In 10th-12th grade there were three Muslims in my class. None of them ate pig but none of them wore a hijab, and two of them drank alcohol.

And I'd argue that whilst religion isn't a race (which a bit of an odd statement in the first place since race is kind of a social construct), religion tends to behave a lot like a race. 
If you believe in religion X then you most likely do so because your parents believed in religion X and thus thought you to believe it as a child. This is true for pretty much any religion.
People often say that religion is a choice but it sure as hell isn't an easy one. It usually takes years for people to transition away from the religion their parents taught them.

[katushkin]

People are stupid. The 350m pounds for the NHS was bull**** right from the start, yet people just ate it up. Even when one of the chairs of the Health Select committee defected SOLEY because of that figure being bull****, people still didn't realise.

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

LUL

Let's play "Spot the Trump supporter".

I bet you've had loads of problems with Muslims assimilating. I also like how you've put "Religion is not a race" so nobody can accuse you of being racist. Good job. Although it probably would have been better if you just said "I'm not racist, but" at the start of your post.

[Waateva]

Sure, the economy is a bit broken for a few years, but in the end the UK will have more control over immigration so that road signs in 5 years are not dual language for English and Arabic.

You are right. Scary brown people are taking over. Send help!

Islam is incompatible with modern society. Nothing about brown people, it's about a religious invasion which will not assimilate. Religion is not a race.

Sounds like you haven't met many Muslims.
A lot of time you can't even tell if they're Muslims or not. In 10th-12th grade there were three Muslims in my class. None of them ate pig but none of them wore a hijab, and two of them drank alcohol.

And I'd argue that whilst religion isn't a race (which a bit of an odd statement in the first place since race is kind of a social construct), religion tends to behave a lot like a race. 
If you believe in religion X then you most likely do so because your parents believed in religion X and thus thought you to believe it as a child. This is true for pretty much any religion.
People often say that religion is a choice but it sure as hell isn't an easy one. It usually takes years for people to transition away from the religion their parents taught them.

I was raised as an Evangelical Christian and it only took me 25 years to leave!  I tell my wife some of the **** that I was taught while growing up (she was raised non-practicing Catholic) and it blows her mind.

[Photekq]

race is kind of a social construct

[Lord of Narwhals]

race is kind of a social construct

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How about a constructive argument for why it's not instead of a simple reaction gif?

[Photekq]

How about a constructive argument for why it's not instead of a simple reaction gif?

I shouldn't have posted the gif at all. I should stay out of this subject entirely. It's better than wasting my time trying to convince people who have no common sense. Really, if you buy into such rubbish you've either only ever encountered one race of people in your life or you're incapable of perception.

More importantly, whenever I get into this subject it only ever brings me trouble.

[tp4tissue]

race is kind of a social construct

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How about a constructive argument for why it's not instead of a simple reaction gif?

Discussion wouldn't be productive.. 

What constitutes race,  the perception of racial differences, the reality of racial differences, the geographical separation of race..

All of those things are arbitrary lines drawn for the sake of categorical comprehension..



So, anything of thought and mind are fundamentally social constructs and only approximate the infinite diversity of a flowing timeline..



So, more concretely,  Race,  is a construct with respect to knowing what it is, but it is along with all other neural arrangements an inconsequential approximation of reality..

[dante]

I'm really at odds with religion.  I was baptized Catholic and only showed up to church on Holidays/etc.  These days I primarily resonate with Zen Buddhism - even though I don't meditate - which is pretty much a requirement - that's as close to religion as I get.

On the other hand I've seen a lot of Churches feed and clothe the homeless so ... while I don't believe in religion per say I do witness good work taking place.

As far as Brexit is concerned it seems people are more interested in their stock portfolios then what the citizens want.  And as an American writing this - everyone in the UK should give a middle finger to any US President telling them what they should be doing in their own country.

[batfink]

There has been a lot of talk of well-educated people voting to remain in, and the less educated voting to leave.

I say this analysis is flawed.

The flaw due is the simplistic way of looking at the proportion of the population that has received higher education. These days, about 40 or 45% of youngsters go to university. If you go back a couple of generations, that figure was around 10%. We know the Leave vote was heavily skewed by older people, but of course a much smaller percentage of older people have degrees compared to younger people.  It doesn't mean that older people are on average more stupid - simply that there were fewer higher education opportunities when they were growing up.

I suspect the correlation between actual intelligence and leave/remain is pretty small if it exists at all.

(One data point: I have a degree in physics but voted Leave)

[Waateva]

I'm really at odds with religion.  I was baptized Catholic and only showed up to church on Holidays/etc.  These days I primarily resonate with Zen Buddhism - even though I don't meditate - which is pretty much a requirement - that's as close to religion as I get.

On the other hand I've seen a lot of Churches feed and clothe the homeless so ... while I don't believe in religion per say I do witness good work taking place.

As far as Brexit is concerned it seems people are more interested in their stock portfolios then what the citizens want.  And as an American writing this - everyone in the UK should give a middle finger to any US President telling them what they should be doing in their own country.

I have mixed feelings as well about religion, because I do personally see a lot of good come from it locally (food banks, outreaches, etc.) but at the same time, I see it heavily distort tons of people's views on things as well.  For instance, my sister and brother-in-law are not vaccinating their kids and the main reason is that they got all of this information from their church friends about it and how they should be going all-natural and homeopathic instead, because that is how God created things and he wouldn't create things that need improvement, which BTW is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard from religious people.

I really could care less what religion people want to practice, be it Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Wicca, or anything else, I just have a problem when it starts to interfere in the rights of others.  I also see, mainly among Christianity and Islam, a HUGE push to convert others and to try and get them to see the "light", often times almost in a militaristic way and that pisses me off to no end.  I don't pester anyone about my own non-belief and I believe religions should respect that and do the same.

[tp4tissue]

There has been a lot of talk of well-educated people voting to remain in, and the less educated voting to leave.

I say this analysis is flawed.

The flaw due is the simplistic way of looking at the proportion of the population that has received higher education. These days, about 40 or 45% of youngsters go to university. If you go back a couple of generations, that figure was around 10%. We know the Leave vote was heavily skewed by older people, but of course a much smaller percentage of older people have degrees compared to younger people.  It doesn't mean that older people are on average more stupid - simply that there were fewer higher education opportunities when they were growing up.

I suspect the correlation between actual intelligence and leave/remain is pretty small if it exists at all.

(One data point: I have a degree in physics but voted Leave)

Here's a theory..  ALL people who vote.. are stupid, because they fail to realize how inconsequential voting is..

[dante]

At the end of the day I think we can all agree that we need an Alien Invasion ala Independence Day or Skynet for all of us to put our differences aside.

[Fire Brand]

This thread gave me cholera, with the actual amount of **** some of you say.

voted remain


but to everyone outside the UK commenting,

No one cares what you think, you cocks.

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

[Lord of Narwhals]

How about a constructive argument for why it's not instead of a simple reaction gif?

I shouldn't have posted the gif at all. I should stay out of this subject entirely. It's better than wasting my time trying to convince people who have no common sense. Really, if you buy into such rubbish you've either only ever encountered one race of people in your life or you're incapable of perception.

Then don't argue, but at least educate yourself by reading some articles on the subject instead of just shrugging it off as nonsense.

And there's a certain irony in a UKIP supporter claiming that I lack common sense.

[demik]

This thread gave me cholera, with the actual amount of **** some of you say.

voted remain


but to everyone outside the UK commenting,

No one cares what you think, you cocks.

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

This that **** we deal with as Americans. Everybody always has an opinion.

Like we don't know we got some ****ed up people here. Or that most of our government is full of money hungry idiots.

[Photekq]

educate yourself by reading some articles on the subject

Oh, I've looked. I wouldn't call something rubbish without looking into it first. The more I look into it the stronger my opinion of it becomes.

[Waateva]

This thread gave me cholera, with the actual amount of **** some of you say.

voted remain


but to everyone outside the UK commenting,

No one cares what you think, you cocks.

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

This that **** we deal with as Americans. Everybody always has an opinion.

Like we don't know we got some ****ed up people here. Or that most of our government is full of money hungry idiots.

I learned awhile ago that people can blast America as much as they want, but if you blast their country they get really pissy about it and tell you to screw off.  America certainly has some really stupid people, some really fat people, and really ****ty people, but that's not all 350 million of us guys.

[LiquidEvilGaming]

How about a constructive argument for why it's not instead of a simple reaction gif?

I shouldn't have posted the gif at all. I should stay out of this subject entirely. It's better than wasting my time trying to convince people who have no common sense. Really, if you buy into such rubbish you've either only ever encountered one race of people in your life or you're incapable of perception.

Then don't argue, but at least educate yourself by reading some articles on the subject instead of just shrugging it off as nonsense.

And there's a certain irony in a UKIP supporter claiming that I lack common sense.

Being i also do not feel the desire to enter into a long debate with the entire social construct nonsense of the MTV generation i shall instead just leave this here since THAC already ripped this apart when the idiots over at MTV unplugged tried to play this card. (Though when has MTV been anything but a breeding ground of idiots..Should have stuck to music videos)

He more or less speaks my mind on the matter without myself having to type volumes about it.

I won't sit here and insult you however for having a different viewpoint as myself.   

[Lord of Narwhals]

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

I don't think anyone honestly believes that all leave supporters are racists.
But racism and xenophobia is becoming more and more common in the UK just like it is in the rest of Europe. Here in Sweden a xenophobic right wing populist party received 12.9% of the votes in the last election.

Being i also do not feel the desire to enter into a long debate with the entire social construct nonsense of the MTV generation i shall instead just leave this here since THAC already ripped this apart when the idiots over at MTV unplugged tried to play this card. (Though when has MTV been anything but a breeding ground of idiots..Should have stuck to music videos)

He more or less speaks my mind on the matter without myself having to type volumes about it.

I won't sit here and insult you however for having a different viewpoint as myself.

Oh hey, another sexist white dude who likes to sound condescending while rambling on youtube. There sure aren't enough of those in the world.

His main point that race is purely biological is far from true.

Keep in mind that just because someone makes entertaining videos doesn't mean they know their ****.

[Fire Brand]

This thread gave me cholera, with the actual amount of **** some of you say.

voted remain


but to everyone outside the UK commenting,

No one cares what you think, you cocks.

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

This that **** we deal with as Americans. Everybody always has an opinion.

Like we don't know we got some ****ed up people here. Or that most of our government is full of money hungry idiots.

You can always have an opinion in my eyes demik.

[LiquidEvilGaming]

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

I don't think anyone honestly believes that all leave supporters are racists.
But racism and xenophobia is becoming more and more common in the UK just like it is in the rest of Europe. Here in Sweden a xenophobic right wing populist party received 12.9% of the votes in the last election.

Being i also do not feel the desire to enter into a long debate with the entire social construct nonsense of the MTV generation i shall instead just leave this here since THAC already ripped this apart when the idiots over at MTV unplugged tried to play this card. (Though when has MTV been anything but a breeding ground of idiots..Should have stuck to music videos)

He more or less speaks my mind on the matter without myself having to type volumes about it.

I won't sit here and insult you however for having a different viewpoint as myself.

Oh hey, another sexist white dude who likes to sound condescending while rambling on youtube. There sure aren't enough of those in the world.

His main point that race is purely biological is far from true.

Keep in mind that just because someone makes entertaining videos doesn't mean they know their ****.

By all means then debate him on his video as he has large periods of time to type out and or make video responses to each point,  i however do not.  I would however love to see you both make point/counterpoints to one another.

I expect next to see the idea of sexes is also a construct and biology is also false and the idea of male and female genitalia is a myth.

[Air tree]

*Sigh*

I don't think anybody believes that sexes aren't real, people do share distinction between gender and sex.


Nobody is saying biology is false and that a vagina and penis do not exist. That's just playing stupid.


"gen·der
ˈ
noun
1.
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
"traditional concepts of gender"
synonyms:   sex
"variables included age, income, and gender"

There is a reason as to why it's called  gender dysphoria and not sex dysphoria

[Fire Brand]

Air tree please lock this thread as we are now opening a hole different can of worms

We have seen some nice opinion and some crap ones and we reached the end of the line, do us a favour and close this please thanks buddie.

[demik]

This thread gave me cholera, with the actual amount of **** some of you say.

voted remain


but to everyone outside the UK commenting,

No one cares what you think, you cocks.

-someone sick of hearing how we are now racist from people sad about losing capital and investment money in the UK

This that **** we deal with as Americans. Everybody always has an opinion.

Like we don't know we got some ****ed up people here. Or that most of our government is full of money hungry idiots.

You can always have an opinion in my eyes demik.

:*

[Air tree]

Seems fair enough. PMs can be had if anyone wants to continue, but this will just turn into further squabbling, you're right firebrand.


Locked.