Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 18:59:18
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:05:12
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:08:25
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:36:56
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:44:17
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:55:23
I saw a video of someone who did that mod and the keyboard sounded cheap. I love how it is right now.
Interesting. I feel like it sounds like cheap plastic on the upstroke on a stock Topre. Idk which video you watched but anyone who has done the mod will agree that it sounds much quieter/better.
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 19:59:35
How is it compared to a Poker?
Well the feel is obviously different, but it really is different in layout as well. I used to use a Poker (as you can tell from my signature), and I loved it. I love the small form factor layout and didn't use arrow keys less I really had to/some browsing. If you love that small form factor, than you will love how even less the HHKB Pro 2 because it is just right. If you want to get to the arrow keys, the diamond really is super efficient and getting to it is easy. Also having the capslock key replaced by the control key is pretty useful...I love it for League of Legends because it makes it easier to level and taunt. It was initially hard to get used to because I used capslock for backspace. Speaking of backspace, the location is a little weird at first, but because it isn't too far from where the backspace usually is.
It is definitely worth it if you love small 60% boards.
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 20:02:13
I saw a video of someone who did that mod and the keyboard sounded cheap. I love how it is right now.
Interesting. I feel like it sounds like cheap plastic on the upstroke on a stock Topre. Idk which video you watched but anyone who has done the mod will agree that it sounds much quieter/better.
I might. Is there a tutorial on how to do the mod? And would it be easy to wreck the board if I do it wrong. It doesn't sound like cheap plastic (which sounds more like the clack of a mx board) on the key return to me. Sounds like raindrops, but if there were a way to make it silent that would be pretty cool since I want to bring my keyboard to the library and such.
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 20:16:45
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 29 September 2013, 20:26:32
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 21:42:43
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
Post by: affect656 on Sun, 29 September 2013, 21:48:04
Post by: morpheus on Sun, 29 September 2013, 21:51:44
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 21:53:14
I'll be getting mine soon. I already know I'm gonna love it.
Oh you will. Since you already know how Topre feels, I think you will like how the HHKB will feels since it really has that deep thock and layout is so nice.
Post by: spiceBar on Sun, 29 September 2013, 21:53:33
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
I have done the silent mod a little bit differently (using soft landing pads instead of rubber bands) on the FC660C.
The FC660C sounds amazing now. I don't understand how you can like the cheap plastic "Clack" on the upstroke.
Now I can use the keyboard with someone sleeping in the same room without disturbing her.
My mod is actually inspired by the silent HHKB mods out there, so I have given a number of links to these mods.
Check it out here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
I have included in the mod report a video with good quality sound so you can hear very clearly the difference. When the video has been shot, I had done the mod only on the two top rows of the keyboard, so it's easy to hear the original sound and the sound after the silencing.
The result is that you "Thock" not only when bottoming out, you also "Thock" on the upstroke. Really sweet!
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:02:53
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
I have done the silent mod a little bit differently (using soft landing pads instead of rubber bands) on the FC660C.
The FC660C sounds amazing now. I don't understand how you can like the cheap plastic "Clack" on the upstroke.
Now I can use the keyboard with someone sleeping in the same room without disturbing her.
My mod is actually inspired by the silent HHKB mods out there, so I have given a number of links to these mods.
Check it out here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
I have included in the mod report a video with good quality sound so you can hear very clearly the difference. When the video has been shot, I had done the mod only on the two top rows of the keyboard, so it's easy to hear the original sound and the sound after the silencing.
The result is that you "Thock" not only when bottoming out, you also "Thock" on the upstroke. Really sweet!
Wow I really like your mod. It doesn't sound too bad with clack still in my opinion, but this sounds even better. I might do this mod when I have the time.
Post by: keymaster on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:11:52
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
It sounds like the silent versions of HHKB & Realforce. I'm not sure which video you watched, but it definitely does NOT sound like plastic.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:15:48
I have been using this for about two days now, and I am in love. This thing is heaven right now. It makes me actually want to do my homework and papers. I just love typing with this. Topre switches really are indescribable. It's no where close to a regular rubber dome, and no where close to a mx switch. It has a feel on its own. It just feels like love on my fingers. In terms of typing improvement, I have a better flow and have made far less errors with this board than any of my others. This board just feels beautiful. I don't even fret over bottoming out because it sounds amazing and feels soft. It's like I bottom out on a bunch of soft pads. That pleasant thock and raindrop return. No stabilizers. This thing is amazing.
As you might recall from my previous posts about the HHKB Pro 2, I agree with you. The strange thing is, I kept putting off trying the HHKB Pro 2. Despite the many positive reviews and personal recommendations to me to try it, I thought that the layout would be too alien to me after using conventional layout keyboards for years. I also believed that I needed to have arrow keys in the primary layer. Moreover, because I liked the buckling springs in my IBM Model M and IBM SSK, I thought I would not like Topre switches.
However, the magnetic appeal of the HHKB Pro 2 design finally induced me to give it a try. I was amazed and surprised. It was as if the HHKB Pro 2 was made just for me. I adapted to the new layout almost instantly, and nearly as quickly learned to use the cursor diamond in conjunction with the Fn key. Furthermore, I liked the Topre switches as much or more than the buckling springs in my IBM keyboards. The keyboard also looks great -- I got the black case and put new white/gray dye-sub PBT keycaps on it. The typing feel and sound are excellent, and my speed and accuracy are better than with any Cherry mx keyboard I have ever used.
The HHKB Pro 2 has become my new daily driver, although I am not willing to part with my IBM SSK just yet. I will probably alternate between the two keyboards.
Post by: PadawanGeek on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:28:36
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:29:47
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
It sounds like the silent versions of HHKB & Realforce. I'm not sure which video you watched, but it definitely does NOT sound like plastic.
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
I have done the silent mod a little bit differently (using soft landing pads instead of rubber bands) on the FC660C.
The FC660C sounds amazing now. I don't understand how you can like the cheap plastic "Clack" on the upstroke.
Now I can use the keyboard with someone sleeping in the same room without disturbing her.
My mod is actually inspired by the silent HHKB mods out there, so I have given a number of links to these mods.
Check it out here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
I have included in the mod report a video with good quality sound so you can hear very clearly the difference. When the video has been shot, I had done the mod only on the two top rows of the keyboard, so it's easy to hear the original sound and the sound after the silencing.
The result is that you "Thock" not only when bottoming out, you also "Thock" on the upstroke. Really sweet!
Wow I really like your mod. It doesn't sound too bad with clack still in my opinion, but this sounds even better. I might do this mod when I have the time.
Now to either do the soft landing pad mod, or do the dental band mod...hmmmmm.....
Post by: PointyFox on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:32:33
Post by: spiceBar on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:52:33
It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
It sounds like the silent versions of HHKB & Realforce. I'm not sure which video you watched, but it definitely does NOT sound like plastic.It was very simple to do. It took me about 2hrs from start to finish on my Realforce 103UB. All you do is unscrew the keyboard and put on the bands. It's very similar to o-rings for Cherry MX. You won't regret it!
How is the sound? It sounds like it lost its thock in mikelanding's video. The sound in his video sound like two cheap plastic parts rubbing together.
I have done the silent mod a little bit differently (using soft landing pads instead of rubber bands) on the FC660C.
The FC660C sounds amazing now. I don't understand how you can like the cheap plastic "Clack" on the upstroke.
Now I can use the keyboard with someone sleeping in the same room without disturbing her.
My mod is actually inspired by the silent HHKB mods out there, so I have given a number of links to these mods.
Check it out here:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
I have included in the mod report a video with good quality sound so you can hear very clearly the difference. When the video has been shot, I had done the mod only on the two top rows of the keyboard, so it's easy to hear the original sound and the sound after the silencing.
The result is that you "Thock" not only when bottoming out, you also "Thock" on the upstroke. Really sweet!
Wow I really like your mod. It doesn't sound too bad with clack still in my opinion, but this sounds even better. I might do this mod when I have the time.
Now to either do the soft landing pad mod, or do the dental band mod...hmmmmm.....
That's where you can contribute: do both.
Do one on the top two rows as I did, and the other one on the other rows.
Capture the sound so we can compare.
I am under the impression that the landing pad mod is the most quiet of the two, because I have also tried with O-rings (similar to rubber bands I guess) and they were less silent. Anyway, ultimately I had to discard the O-rings because they could block the keys.
The landing pad mod is so silent that I can now actually hear the sound of the conical springs under the domes on the upstroke! :)
Now that would be really great to know which one is the most quiet, which one keeps the most of the original feel, and so on.
Post by: TimIsABat on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:52:44
Why did they move the control keys and just leave the spots they used to be empty? Isn't that a waste of space?
They moved it for coding purposes. It does get a little getting used to, but unless you are yelling all the time, caps lock is pretty useless. I like that it has that empty space. They moved everything so that it is easier to use. Instead of having the Fn key hard to reach like near the modifiers, it is right next to shift and easier to hit with your pinky...but not obstrusive, and you won't be accidentally hitting that key when you are reaching for modifiers. I prefer my alt -> meta and meta -> alt as to not hit it accidentally... Trust me...once you get used to it, you will love it.
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 29 September 2013, 22:56:55
I have been using this for about two days now, and I am in love. This thing is heaven right now. It makes me actually want to do my homework and papers. I just love typing with this. Topre switches really are indescribable. It's no where close to a regular rubber dome, and no where close to a mx switch. It has a feel on its own. It just feels like love on my fingers. In terms of typing improvement, I have a better flow and have made far less errors with this board than any of my others. This board just feels beautiful. I don't even fret over bottoming out because it sounds amazing and feels soft. It's like I bottom out on a bunch of soft pads. That pleasant thock and raindrop return. No stabilizers. This thing is amazing.
Congrats Tim! I knew you were going to love the HHKB. Welcome to the klub.
Post by: daerid on Mon, 30 September 2013, 01:28:55
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 30 September 2013, 04:22:38
Post by: PadawanGeek on Mon, 30 September 2013, 05:36:34
Ive just gotten my my new hhkb pro 2. Gonna post a review SOON comparing it to the realforce'Grats, welcome to the club! Looking forward to your review/comparison. ;D
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 30 September 2013, 05:48:19
Ive just gotten my my new hhkb pro 2. Gonna post a review SOON comparing it to the realforce
Congratulations!
I'm kinda wondering what a new one feels like. Mine was a year or so old when I bought it, but apparently fairly lightly used. There is a tiny bit of shine on the space bar, but otherwise the keyboard is nice and clean and consistent.
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 30 September 2013, 06:29:56
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 30 September 2013, 06:39:03
Post by: snoopy on Mon, 30 September 2013, 08:31:40
As you might recall from my previous posts about the HHKB Pro 2, I agree with you. The strange thing is, I kept putting off trying the HHKB Pro 2. Despite the many positive reviews and personal recommendations to me to try it, I thought that the layout would be too alien to me after using conventional layout keyboards for years. I also believed that I needed to have arrow keys in the primary layer. Moreover, because I liked the buckling springs in my IBM Model M and IBM SSK, I thought I would not like Topre switches.
However, the magnetic appeal of the HHKB Pro 2 design finally induced me to give it a try. I was amazed and surprised. It was as if the HHKB Pro 2 was made just for me. I adapted to the new layout almost instantly, and nearly as quickly learned to use the cursor diamond in conjunction with the Fn key. Furthermore, I liked the Topre switches as much or more than the buckling springs in my IBM keyboards. The keyboard also looks great -- I got the black case and put new white/gray dye-sub PBT keycaps on it. The typing feel and sound are excellent, and my speed and accuracy are better than with any Cherry mx keyboard I have ever used.
The HHKB Pro 2 has become my new daily driver, although I am not willing to part with my IBM SSK just yet. I will probably alternate between the two keyboards.
These are exactly also my experience. And I also switch between ssk and hhkb. I have both on my desk and depending on what I'm doing, I switch between them. And also I sometimes have days where the sound of buckling springs drive me crazy... then is time for hhkb.
Only thing I want to try in future is that silent mod for the hhkb or maybe get an additional type-s. Can't currently think about a better combination then SSK and HHKB. :)
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 30 September 2013, 13:47:54
Post by: Hypersphere on Mon, 30 September 2013, 15:18:58
Post by: saturnotaku on Mon, 30 September 2013, 15:47:43
However, one of the strengths of the HHKB Pro 2 is that it does not really require customizations to make it attractive and useful. This is quite different from my experience with the Poker II -- I felt that I needed to put a set of dye-sub PBT keycaps on it and slip it into an aluminum case before it was ready for prime time. In contrast, my HHKB Pro 2 looks good to go right out of the box.
I don't deny that the HHKB is good to go out of the box, and the fact that it can easily integrate with a Mac via drivers is also attractive. The thing is, with my Poker II, I don't feel I need to modify it as much as I want to fiddle with it and make it my own.
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 30 September 2013, 15:57:38
I sense a groundswell of enthusiasm for the HHKB Pro 2. Perhaps this will be sufficient to induce companies to make more customizations available. However, one of the strengths of the HHKB Pro 2 is that it does not really require customizations to make it attractive and useful. This is quite different from my experience with the Poker II -- I felt that I needed to put a set of dye-sub PBT keycaps on it and slip it into an aluminum case before it was ready for prime time. In contrast, my HHKB Pro 2 looks good to go right out of the box.
It had better look good to go right out of the box. It's 3 times the price of a Poker.
Post by: longweight on Mon, 30 September 2013, 15:58:54
(http://i.imgur.com/goyw6pdh.jpg)
Post by: tlt on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:04:00
Post by: hcry4 on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:10:27
Post by: longweight on Mon, 30 September 2013, 16:28:46
Post by: spiceBar on Mon, 30 September 2013, 17:12:49
I would never mod a Topre to change the sound of it. It was the sound that made me buy one in the first place. Tok tok tok ... :D
You've got that wrong. It's "ThockClack ThockClack ThockClack...".
The "Clack" is when the key moves up.
Thock is fine, but Clack not so much. Muting the Clack is a great mod:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 30 September 2013, 18:54:45
I would never mod a Topre to change the sound of it. It was the sound that made me buy one in the first place. Tok tok tok ... :D
You've got that wrong. It's "ThockClack ThockClack ThockClack...".
The "Clack" is when the key moves up.
Thock is fine, but Clack not so much. Muting the Clack is a great mod:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.msg1056220#msg1056220)
Only one key on mine goes Clack - it has 3D ;)
Post by: keymaster on Mon, 30 September 2013, 19:03:16
Post by: PointyFox on Mon, 30 September 2013, 20:05:39
They could even make the case out of something other than PLASTIC.
Post by: spiceBar on Mon, 30 September 2013, 20:34:57
$400 and they include a USB 2.0 hub? Why not USB 3.0? 4.0? A fiber optic connection? Quantum entanglement relay? They could do a lot for $400.
They could even make the case out of something other than PLASTIC.
They have a product that -arguably- no one else has been able to match, in term or desirability. It's not even required that everybody wants it, it's enough that a significant fraction of informed customers find it superior.
So they set a unrealistic high price on it, which is the smartest thing to do.
They could as well not include the USB hub and sell it for even more, because the desirability of this product does not depend on this feature.
The competition is left to fight on price between themselves, or on fancy features. Topre doesn't have to fight on price or features.
Until Cherry or some other competitor comes up with a better switch, and I don't see that happening, Topre (Fujitsu) can sell their boards as high as they want.
Post by: Polymer on Mon, 30 September 2013, 21:19:13
Just because the case is plastic doesn't mean it isn't well made...that and really, 60% boards should probably be portable...
Plus I think half the appeal of a HHKB is the sound...and the sound comes from the case mounted (plastic) switches. If it was made out of Aluminum, I think it would sound different..maybe more like a RF (I have both and prefer the HHKB sound) and be far heavier..
Post by: TimIsABat on Mon, 30 September 2013, 23:33:43
$400 and they include a USB 2.0 hub? Why not USB 3.0? 4.0? A fiber optic connection? Quantum entanglement relay? They could do a lot for $400.
They could even make the case out of something other than PLASTIC.
$400 if you decide to go with the Type-S. Personally that is unjustified for me as well because it is $400 for silencing when the board can be bought waaaaay cheaper without it. I do have to say though, for the price that you are paying for the board...you are getting a huge "THOCK" for what you pay. It is completely worth the money in my honest opinion.
Post by: TimIsABat on Mon, 30 September 2013, 23:35:24
GOTSTA GO NAKEDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/goyw6pdh.jpg)
Blank caps look so beautiful on this board. I can't wait for my money situation to be settled again so I can get this set.
Post by: eth0s on Tue, 01 October 2013, 00:14:08
GOTSTA GO NAKEDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/goyw6pdh.jpg)
Blank caps look so beautiful on this board. I can't wait for my money situation to be settled again so I can get this set.
Blanks are the way to go. Looks better, but the typing experience is better too. You stop looking down at the keyboard. It really is the way to type.
Post by: gh_pp on Tue, 01 October 2013, 02:39:36
I have been using this for about two days now, and I am in love. This thing is heaven right now. It makes me actually want to do my homework and papers. I just love typing with this. Topre switches really are indescribable. It's no where close to a regular rubber dome, and no where close to a mx switch. It has a feel on its own.
I know what you're talking about. When using a great keyboard I find myself getting addicted to playing on typeracer.com =]
I also bought a topre RF 45g but I want to use it for at least 6 months to a year before writing a review.
The topre switch is good but definitely there are a lot of hype around it.
Actually a lot of rubber dome keyboards are great to type on (when they are new), but they deteriorate fast.
Contrary to your believe, I found the 45g topre to be very similar to MS natural elite
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-A11-00337-Natural-Keyboard-Elite/dp/B0000642RX/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
The elite can be a very good keyboard if it doesn't have the diamond arrow keys and 90 degree insert/delete cluster.
I type faster on browns when playing typeracer, but since browns are so light I also have more typos.
I found that the 45g topre keys don't return as fast as the cherry switches.
I still enjoy the RF because of its build quality and excellent, beautiful keycaps but when I type fast I prefer the mx browns.
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 01 October 2013, 03:36:34
Post by: terran5992 on Tue, 01 October 2013, 03:36:54
My precious
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 01 October 2013, 05:29:23
GOTSTA GO NAKEDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/goyw6pdh.jpg)
Blank caps look so beautiful on this board. I can't wait for my money situation to be settled again so I can get this set.
Blanks are the way to go. Looks better, but the typing experience is better too. You stop looking down at the keyboard. It really is the way to type.
Says the man with a HHKB full of Clacks ;)
Post by: jonnybeantown on Tue, 01 October 2013, 12:19:16
I have been using this for about two days now, and I am in love. This thing is heaven right now. It makes me actually want to do my homework and papers. I just love typing with this. Topre switches really are indescribable. It's no where close to a regular rubber dome, and no where close to a mx switch. It has a feel on its own. It just feels like love on my fingers. In terms of typing improvement, I have a better flow and have made far less errors with this board than any of my others. This board just feels beautiful. I don't even fret over bottoming out because it sounds amazing and feels soft. It's like I bottom out on a bunch of soft pads. That pleasant thock and raindrop return. No stabilizers. This thing is amazing.
I thought I was in love, then I got the Type-S. Now I'm twitterpated.
Post by: Michael on Tue, 01 October 2013, 12:31:08
Post by: mrelectric on Tue, 01 October 2013, 14:59:02
Post by: o2dazone on Tue, 01 October 2013, 16:35:39
Nevermind. I found mikelanding's post and o2dazone's post. I like how o2dazone's mod sounds, but it just seems like a lot of work. I might do the dental bands one. It doesn't sound too different from o2dazone's board. Just gotta find my screw driver and order some dental bands.
It was a lot of work and in the end, I switched to dental bands (and lube). It was nice, but I grew to love the slight adjustment in distance between full up to bottom out.
Post by: jwaz on Tue, 01 October 2013, 16:40:32
Nevermind. I found mikelanding's post and o2dazone's post. I like how o2dazone's mod sounds, but it just seems like a lot of work. I might do the dental bands one. It doesn't sound too different from o2dazone's board. Just gotta find my screw driver and order some dental bands.
It was a lot of work and in the end, I switched to dental bands (and lube). It was nice, but I grew to love the slight adjustment in distance between full up to bottom out.
What did you lube the sliders with?
Post by: o2dazone on Wed, 02 October 2013, 10:33:48
What did you lube the sliders with?
krytox 100
Post by: spammy1982 on Wed, 02 October 2013, 10:57:23
I got into mech keyboards a few years ago when I picked up a Das with browns. A few months ago I felt like I wanted to move onto something different, so I picked up a CM Storm Trigger on Amazon with blues. It took me 5 minutes to realize it was not for me... and maybe a gamer would like it; but for me it just didn't feel right, keys didn't have a uniform sound (and it was ridiculously heavy). When I got my HHKB, however, it was love and respect. It really is.... perfection.... although it could use 1 or 2 click clacks. ;-)
~sam
Post by: Hypersphere on Wed, 02 October 2013, 16:32:57
I got my hhkb pro 2 over the weekend, and I, too am in love. I do medical transcription as my day job, and then go home to my linux system at night. I wanted something that was easily portable, so I can take it back and forth to work. I must say, I was initially a little concerned about the arrow keys until I realized it was a total non-issue, in fact the setup on the hhkb just makes sense: the function key is in the perfect spot, so adapting to it was easy because it just felt right. I love its sound, I love the texture of the keys, I love that the caps lock key is gone, I just f-ing love it.
I got into mech keyboards a few years ago when I picked up a Das with browns. A few months ago I felt like I wanted to move onto something different, so I picked up a CM Storm Trigger on Amazon with blues. It took me 5 minutes to realize it was not for me... and maybe a gamer would like it; but for me it just didn't feel right, keys didn't have a uniform sound (and it was ridiculously heavy). When I got my HHKB, however, it was love and respect. It really is.... perfection.... although it could use 1 or 2 click clacks. ;-)
~sam
Welcome to the club! Your reaction was similar to mine. Long before I got my HHKB Pro 2, I noticed from the reviews that more than any other keyboard, the HHKB Pro 2 evoked strongly positive emotional responses from people. They did not merely like the keyboard, they loved it.
Meanwhile, my recently displaced IBM SSK is still sitting on my side-table, waiting patiently for its turn in my intended HHKB Pro2 - IBM SSK rotation. However, I keep delaying, because I want to continue using the HHKB Pro 2.
However, I have noticed one somewhat negative thing about the HHKB Pro 2 that I do not recall happening with the IBM SSK, and that is unintentional key presses. For me, the only thing I might want to change about the HHKB Pro 2 is the actuation pressure of the key switches. It might be better at 55 grams rather than 45 grams.
Post by: spammy1982 on Wed, 02 October 2013, 20:39:14
I got my hhkb pro 2 over the weekend, and I, too am in love. I do medical transcription as my day job, and then go home to my linux system at night. I wanted something that was easily portable, so I can take it back and forth to work. I must say, I was initially a little concerned about the arrow keys until I realized it was a total non-issue, in fact the setup on the hhkb just makes sense: the function key is in the perfect spot, so adapting to it was easy because it just felt right. I love its sound, I love the texture of the keys, I love that the caps lock key is gone, I just f-ing love it.
I got into mech keyboards a few years ago when I picked up a Das with browns. A few months ago I felt like I wanted to move onto something different, so I picked up a CM Storm Trigger on Amazon with blues. It took me 5 minutes to realize it was not for me... and maybe a gamer would like it; but for me it just didn't feel right, keys didn't have a uniform sound (and it was ridiculously heavy). When I got my HHKB, however, it was love and respect. It really is.... perfection.... although it could use 1 or 2 click clacks. ;-)
~sam
Welcome to the club! Your reaction was similar to mine. Long before I got my HHKB Pro 2, I noticed from the reviews that more than any other keyboard, the HHKB Pro 2 evoked strongly positive emotional responses from people. They did not merely like the keyboard, they loved it.
Meanwhile, my recently displaced IBM SSK is still sitting on my side-table, waiting patiently for its turn in my intended HHKB Pro2 - IBM SSK rotation. However, I keep delaying, because I want to continue using the HHKB Pro 2.
However, I have noticed one somewhat negative thing about the HHKB Pro 2 that I do not recall happening with the IBM SSK, and that is unintentional key presses. For me, the only thing I might want to change about the HHKB Pro 2 is the actuation pressure of the key switches. It might be better at 55 grams rather than 45 grams.
Yep, I agree... I've noticed getting ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff a few times while I rested my fingers on the keys... but it's not that big of a deal as far as I'm concerned.
Post by: Polymer on Thu, 03 October 2013, 23:21:14
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:25:55
The second thing - I know everyone loves to type of HHKB and Topre and I guess you are all touch typist? How does this radical layout fit a non touch typist? Some one like me who pokes with a few fingers? I do enjoyed MX and Matias Quiet Pro and can sense the tactility or linearity of a switch, so I am not asking about feel of Topre but more of the HHKB radical key layout for non touch typist.
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:44:17
I don't think it was mentioned - what is the materials of the key caps of HHKB Pro2? ABS or PBT?
The second thing - I know everyone loves to type of HHKB and Topre and I guess you are all touch typist? How does this radical layout fit a non touch typist? Some one like me who pokes with a few fingers? I do enjoyed MX and Matias Quiet Pro and can sense the tactility or linearity of a switch, so I am not asking about feel of Topre but more of the HHKB radical key layout for non touch typist.
They are dye sublimated PBT caps
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 05:46:17
I have a fairly radical typing method, although I can touch type if I have to. For this I prefer uniform boards, which I understand HHKB is, otherwise you'd be using the wrong fingers on the lighter weight keys and it would feel weird.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 16 October 2013, 08:45:44
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 16 October 2013, 09:08:02
Do you mean certain keys in HHKB is lighter or are you referring to a lighter Topre switch in general. From reading what you wrote I have the impression certain keys are lighter than others.
HHKB is uniform throughout
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 October 2013, 21:08:29
Do you mean certain keys in HHKB is lighter or are you referring to a lighter Topre switch in general. From reading what you wrote I have the impression certain keys are lighter than others.
I was referring to non-uniform Topre boards, such as some RealForce models. They have lighter switches towards the edge of the board and heavier in the middle. The weighting is biased towards touch-typing, which I generally do not do, hence a uniformly weighted board is better for me.
Also a uniformly weighted board is better for gaming, especially WASD games.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 16 October 2013, 22:01:27
Post by: Michael on Wed, 16 October 2013, 22:20:16
(http://i.imgur.com/7rDxyAx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/4tXZTKK.jpg)
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 01:12:30
<3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7rDxyAx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4tXZTKK.jpg)
Why do you make us jelly ?
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:15:37
<3No bots?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7rDxyAx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4tXZTKK.jpg)
I am dissapoint
Post by: Michael on Thu, 17 October 2013, 11:57:57
<3No bots?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7rDxyAx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4tXZTKK.jpg)
I am dissapoint
Don't you worry, topre is coming soon :P
Post by: saturnotaku on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:23:47
Post by: Michael on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:24:51
Where'd you get the wrist rest, Bro?
from amazon japan. it's the bird electron brand
Post by: KangarooZombies on Thu, 17 October 2013, 12:26:48
I still use it with my 660c though.
Post by: DarkFire989 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:07:34
Post by: unicomp_uc on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:30:16
Btw, good color choice ;)
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:34:12
Post by: DarkFire989 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:48:48
Post by: snoopy on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:51:43
Thanks guys. Is it hard to get used to the blank keyset with all the function keys?
If you already can touch type, its not really hard. And after you get used to it, you will love it and never want to use another layout.
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:53:27
Post by: DarkFire989 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 15:55:08
Post by: mreoww on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:02:44
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:05:23
But hey, touche, right?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:12:20
Are 400$ CCs hip? Don't fall victim.
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That's so off topic
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:14:06
That's so off topic
Not for him. His topics are Clarks and me. Take a look at his post history.
Post by: mreoww on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:14:49
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:18:32
Uh oh, cue the Moose herd.
Actually I had no idea this had anyone to do with moose...but ok
Post by: unicomp_uc on Thu, 17 October 2013, 16:44:40
Thanks guys. Is it hard to get used to the blank keyset with all the function keys?
Pretty much all 60% boards use similar Fn layers for home, end, page up, page down, print screen. Insert, delete have the most variance from what I've seen.
Personally, it was not hard at all, but I was coming from a Filco Minila with a very similar layout with the above mentioned Fn layer keys.
The backspace, delete, aarows and control have all been really easily adjusted too and I think almost all of the layout is intuitive and logical.
I too find the blank look sleeker than caps with legends but everyone is different. However, if you want to keep the cohesiveness of the minimal design that the keyboard provides, blanks are the way to go IMO.
Post by: thirdkind on Thu, 17 October 2013, 22:50:38
[attachimg=1]
<3
Post by: brialona on Fri, 18 October 2013, 00:47:08
Post by: KangarooZombies on Fri, 18 October 2013, 00:48:00
Post by: redskull on Fri, 18 October 2013, 01:06:40
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 05:22:29
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GhGa3Bu.jpg)
Love the flipped spacebar
Post by: DarkFire989 on Fri, 18 October 2013, 08:22:17
Ordered my HHKB on Valentine's Day of this year. We're still going strong. It's a love that's meant to last a lifetime.
(Attachment Link)
<3
Love it. Looks awesome :thumb:
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 18 October 2013, 09:23:34
my black on black hhkb is here. fuu... nice, just as expected. waiting for printed keycaps to arrive in a few hours. :thumb:Your review/impression please!
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 18 October 2013, 15:13:21
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GhGa3Bu.jpg)
Love the flipped spacebar
I swear it wasn't my fault...
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac226/sweetstuff_906/GuiltyGIF.gif)
Post by: Michael on Fri, 18 October 2013, 16:56:51
(http://i.imgur.com/ltK1moe.jpg)
and
(http://i.imgur.com/LIZJ6sF.png)
Post by: Sniping on Fri, 18 October 2013, 19:17:21
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 01:02:06
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 19 October 2013, 01:06:36
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:22:10
That first pic - those colours ... those textures ... that smoothness ... wow!
I think that first pic may have just sold me on a black hhkb.
Yeha ~ I've said it in a bunch of other threads too: It seems the White HHKB P2's with stock blanks are by far the more popular choice, but I personally find that a Black HHKB P2 with white caps are the best looking (also a red esc makes it look damn good) :D Too bad, getting those four colors on there costs a fortune :))
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:33:58
That first pic - those colours ... those textures ... that smoothness ... wow!I think that first pic may have just sold me on a black hhkb.
Yeha ~ I've said it in a bunch of other threads too: It seems the White HHKB P2's with stock blanks are by far the more popular choice, but I personally find that a Black HHKB P2 with white caps are the best looking (also a red esc makes it look damn good) :D Too bad, getting those four colors on there costs a fortune :))
Heh 4 sets of keycaps to extract one keycap from each set. Yikes!
Post by: Michael on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:39:00
Heh 4 sets of keycaps to extract one keycap from each set. Yikes!
o2dazone dyed 3 of the 4 colors your see on the black HHKB. Only one of them is from a RF set.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 19 October 2013, 03:45:37
Heh 4 sets of keycaps to extract one keycap from each set. Yikes!
o2dazone dyed 3 of the 4 colors your see on the black HHKB. Only one of them is from a RF set.
Oh wow... That is absolutely awesome! If only I knew how, and had the resources... or the blank white caps to dye... :))
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 05:03:41
Heh 4 sets of keycaps to extract one keycap from each set. Yikes!
o2dazone dyed 3 of the 4 colors your see on the black HHKB. Only one of them is from a RF set.
That's not quite as bad then. Otherwise I was going to say ...
Post by: Michael on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:14:35
Oh wow... That is absolutely awesome! If only I knew how, and had the resources... or the blank white caps to dye... :))
Yeah, RF sets are rather expensive to be experimenting with. But o2dazone has a guide on how to do it somewhere in this forum.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 19 October 2013, 11:18:18
Oh wow... That is absolutely awesome! If only I knew how, and had the resources... or the blank white caps to dye... :))
Yeah, RF sets are rather expensive to be experimenting with. But o2dazone has a guide on how to do it somewhere in this forum.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27237.0
also
imav
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4962.0
and
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40222.25
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:11:05
Post by: gnusosa on Sat, 19 October 2013, 16:40:13
(http://i.imgur.com/ZtrsiAG.jpg)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sun, 20 October 2013, 16:57:13
Oh wow... That is absolutely awesome! If only I knew how, and had the resources... or the blank white caps to dye... :))
Yeah, RF sets are rather expensive to be experimenting with. But o2dazone has a guide on how to do it somewhere in this forum.
Yeaaah. This is absolutely my favorite picture of a HHKB2 from o2dazone. I might have to try to find some white caps and so try it out, even if if it means having to buy HHKB set from EK.
(http://i.imgur.com/U5Smjw4.jpg)
Oh wow... That is absolutely awesome! If only I knew how, and had the resources... or the blank white caps to dye... :))
Yeah, RF sets are rather expensive to be experimenting with. But o2dazone has a guide on how to do it somewhere in this forum.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27237.0
also
imav
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=4962.0
and
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40222.25
Thank you for those links! It really is informative :D
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 23 October 2013, 10:43:54
I love the feeling and tactility but it's a tad bit hard to access arrows and backspace, which are some of my most used keys.
Post by: keymaster on Wed, 23 October 2013, 11:52:10
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 23 October 2013, 12:21:00
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 23 October 2013, 12:44:24
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
I take it you prefer the FC660C to the HHKB then?
Have you had any key cap fade problems with your keyboard also :P?
Post by: AuRinBei on Wed, 23 October 2013, 13:57:59
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by smooth? Is it that they are more scratchy, or that they have more pop?
Post by: Hypersphere on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:07:19
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
I take it you prefer the FC660C to the HHKB then?
Have you had any key cap fade problems with your keyboard also :P?
As for me, I liked my FC660C quite well, but after getting the HHKB Pro 2, I found that I preferred the true 60% form factor, layout, and two-tone dye-sub PBT keycaps of the HHKB Pro 2.
I started to notice wear on the lettering of some of the keycaps on the FC660C right away. This should not be a problem with the HHKB Pro 2, because of the dye-sub PBT keycaps. I also have an IBM Model M and IBM SSK; these have dye-sub PBT keycaps, and although these boards are over 20 years old, the keycaps look brand new.
Post by: morpheus on Wed, 23 October 2013, 19:53:41
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by smooth? Is it that they are more scratchy, or that they have more pop?
It just flows a lot easier, as I can type faster with more accuracy. The key switches seem to be lighter and feel like they are lubricrated. Also, the standard layout makes it easier for me because of muscle memory.
What if I told you that you just need to give it more time, morpheus? :p
Well played sir, well played.
I mean I'll probably get used to it soon. I'm typing this on it right now, but it's definitely not as smooth as my FC660C.
I take it you prefer the FC660C to the HHKB then?
Have you had any key cap fade problems with your keyboard also :P?
Currently I prefer the FC660C, but I really wanna give the HHKB a shot. Yes, the keycaps on the FC660C are faded, I can barely see some of the keys. However, I can touch type on those because it has the standard layout, so it's not a huge problem for me. The keys on the HHKB are absolutely stunning and I don't think they will ever wear out. I'm gonna take a couple weeks to get used to it, so let's hope it can live up to the hype.
Post by: AuRinBei on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:08:48
Ordered my HHKB on Valentine's Day of this year. We're still going strong. It's a love that's meant to last a lifetime.
(Attachment Link)
<3
I just wanted to say, this is the most beautiful keyboard I have ever seen. I've been coming back and looking at this picture for days now. It is just perfect. I normally hate blanks because I think they make the board look unfinished, but not this one. I don't know what it is, but that black arrow cluster and the black FN key are really making it work. I have decided that I will have that keyboard, it is just a matter of time.
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:31:08
Ordered my HHKB on Valentine's Day of this year. We're still going strong. It's a love that's meant to last a lifetime.
(Attachment Link)
<3
I just wanted to say, this is the most beautiful keyboard I have ever seen. I've been coming back and looking at this picture for days now. It is just perfect. I normally hate blanks because I think they make the board look unfinished, but not this one. I don't know what it is, but that black arrow cluster and the black FN key are really making it work. I have decided that I will have that keyboard, it is just a matter of time.
You should , typing on topre will change your life
Post by: 127001 on Wed, 23 October 2013, 20:33:48
Post by: AuRinBei on Wed, 23 October 2013, 21:07:53
Ordered my HHKB on Valentine's Day of this year. We're still going strong. It's a love that's meant to last a lifetime.
(Attachment Link)
<3
I just wanted to say, this is the most beautiful keyboard I have ever seen. I've been coming back and looking at this picture for days now. It is just perfect. I normally hate blanks because I think they make the board look unfinished, but not this one. I don't know what it is, but that black arrow cluster and the black FN key are really making it work. I have decided that I will have that keyboard, it is just a matter of time.
You should , typing on topre will change your life
I have an FC660C. It's alright I guess.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 23 October 2013, 23:59:20
I just order a black, un-printed HHBK... hope I'm not disappointed. Hope it can stand up against my IBMs...
A Model M will crush the little HHKB ;)
I switch between them, and they are just different. I prefer both - Model M for when I want to type hard and loud, and HHKB for almost everything else.
Post by: SNF on Thu, 24 October 2013, 04:09:23
Congrats on the new board
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 24 October 2013, 08:30:20
I just order a black, un-printed HHBK... hope I'm not disappointed. Hope it can stand up against my IBMs...
A Model M will crush the little HHKB ;)
I switch between them, and they are just different. I prefer both - Model M for when I want to type hard and loud, and HHKB for almost everything else.
I do the same, although I moved from a full-size Model M to and IBM SSK. They are both masterpieces. I think the SSK is the best all around keyboard I have ever used. However, for now, I am mainly using my HHKB Pro 2 (black body with white and light gray lettered keycaps); this is mainly because of the 60% form factor, layout, and minimalist beauty of the HHKB Pro 2.
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 24 October 2013, 16:29:59
I just order a black, un-printed HHBK... hope I'm not disappointed. Hope it can stand up against my IBMs...
A Model M will crush the little HHKB ;)
I switch between them, and they are just different. I prefer both - Model M for when I want to type hard and loud, and HHKB for almost everything else.
I do the same, although I moved from a full-size Model M to and IBM SSK. They are both masterpieces. I think the SSK is the best all around keyboard I have ever used. However, for now, I am mainly using my HHKB Pro 2 (black body with white and light gray lettered keycaps); this is mainly because of the 60% form factor, layout, and minimalist beauty of the HHKB Pro 2.
I'd love an SSK! My desk at home is not very big, and the M overwhelms it. Complete contrast to the HHKB.
At the moment I dug my old Ducky Shine out to use that, but I am missing the other two.
Dunno whether to switch back to the HHKB or try the Model M again.
Post by: thirdkind on Thu, 24 October 2013, 21:11:55
I just wanted to say, this is the most beautiful keyboard I have ever seen. I've been coming back and looking at this picture for days now. It is just perfect. I normally hate blanks because I think they make the board look unfinished, but not this one. I don't know what it is, but that black arrow cluster and the black FN key are really making it work. I have decided that I will have that keyboard, it is just a matter of time.
Thanks :) I've seen a lot of flashy (and pretty awesome) keyboards since signing up here, but I prefer the understated beauty that comes with purely functional enhancements. The black keys make the Fn and arrow keys stand out, which is what I needed when I first got the HHKB. I could probably do without them now, but I've really grown to like how it looks. The red Esc key is probably about as flashy as it'll get.
I just need to pick up a smaller wrist rest now from EK. The medium sized one is perfect for a tenkeyless board like the Filco I used to have (also in the photo), but it's too big for a 60% board.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 25 October 2013, 00:19:59
Post by: Michael on Fri, 25 October 2013, 00:36:49
This thread is dangerous........ makes you do things....... that's all I'm going to say.......... :'( :'( :'(
does it make you touch yourself at night?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 25 October 2013, 00:39:30
This thread is dangerous........ makes you do things....... that's all I'm going to say.......... :'( :'( :'(
does it make you touch yourself at night?
:-[ :-[ :-[ Something worse... But I'll tell you what would make me touch myself at night... Some Brobot V2s on me thorpe ;) Hopefully not too soon though... I literally have no spending money right now :)) Don'chu do that to me, bro.
Post by: Michael on Fri, 25 October 2013, 00:51:09
Hopefully not too soon though... I literally have no spending money right now :)) Don'chu do that to me, bro.
You have a little bit of time ;)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 25 October 2013, 00:57:28
Hopefully not too soon though... I literally have no spending money right now :)) Don'chu do that to me, bro.
You have a little bit of time ;)
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Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 October 2013, 00:52:19
This thread is dangerous........ makes you do things....... that's all I'm going to say.......... :'( :'( :'(
does it make you touch yourself at night?
No because both my hands are on my HHKB.
Post by: Emospence on Mon, 28 October 2013, 20:05:07
All my dip switches are off.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 October 2013, 20:16:59
Are the diamond keys not supposed to act as Windows keys on Windows? Mine don't..
All my dip switches are off.
I thought they were Alt keys under Windows?
But there again I only use my HHKB on a Mac, where they are Command keys (which is the Mac equivalent to Alt keys).
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 20:20:40
Are the diamond keys not supposed to act as Windows keys on Windows? Mine don't..
All my dip switches are off.
You have to turn on certain ones.
Post by: Emospence on Mon, 28 October 2013, 21:01:32
You have to turn on certain ones.
Would anyone happen to know which? :s
Post by: Michael on Mon, 28 October 2013, 21:33:04
You have to turn on certain ones.
Would anyone happen to know which? :s
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b)
there is a diagram of the dipswitch configuration on that page. you need to remove the small dipswitch panel to access them on the back of the HHKB
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 28 October 2013, 21:35:07
Post by: Emospence on Mon, 28 October 2013, 22:17:37
It doesn't work as windows for mine :/ Will try again when I get home.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 29 October 2013, 07:01:35
So 4 down should make the meta key windows.. That's the diamond key right?
It doesn't work as windows for mine :/ Will try again when I get home.
For some reason all the diagrams etc didn't seem to match up to what my HHKB was doing so I just had to trial and error to get it to work the way I wanted it to. Or I'm not smart enough to read the diagram properly which is entirely possible.
Again make sure you unplug the keyboard before changing the dip switches or it wont' recognize the changes.
Just try what I posted above 2 and 5 down and the rest up see if that gets you what your after!!
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 29 October 2013, 08:05:11
Post by: Moosecraft on Tue, 29 October 2013, 12:12:55
Post by: mrflow3r on Tue, 29 October 2013, 12:38:21
Can't wait for my(first) HHKB to arrive :D Have a strong feeling I will like it. Will post impressions!
I'm waiting for mine too at the moment. It's in transit!! So excited :D
Post by: goobus on Tue, 29 October 2013, 12:51:35
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 29 October 2013, 22:57:32
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 October 2013, 23:37:40
Me too!! I am waiting on a white Type-S with printed keycaps. Already having buyer's remorse about whether I should have gone for the blanks but I figured I shouldn't overestimate my abilities on my first 60%!!
You can always buy a set of blank keycaps later on (and sell the original set here to recoup some costs).
Post by: goobus on Wed, 30 October 2013, 00:14:30
Good idea :) blank hhkb's just look so sleek.Me too!! I am waiting on a white Type-S with printed keycaps. Already having buyer's remorse about whether I should have gone for the blanks but I figured I shouldn't overestimate my abilities on my first 60%!!
You can always buy a set of blank keycaps later on (and sell the original set here to recoup some costs).
Post by: kelske on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:11:05
(http://i.imgur.com/qT4y53B.jpg)
From a friend in Japan where the price difference between pro 2 and type-s is much smaller :)
As much as I love the sound of the normal topre switches (FC660C in my case), the type-s is very satisfying to type on. The whole experience feels tighter when you don't have the upstroke sounds. The biggest gain is the spacebar, which makes a hell of a noise on my FC660C, but is beautifully uniform sounding on this.
Also surprised at how good these 45g domes feel after using 55g for the last few months!
Now to learn this layout...
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 31 October 2013, 18:46:08
Just had this come in the mail!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qT4y53B.jpg)
From a friend in Japan where the price difference between pro 2 and type-s is much smaller :)
As much as I love the sound of the normal topre switches (FC660C in my case), the type-s is very satisfying to type on. The whole experience feels tighter when you don't have the upstroke sounds. The biggest gain is the spacebar, which makes a hell of a noise on my FC660C, but is beautifully uniform sounding on this.
Also surprised at how good these 45g domes feel after using 55g for the last few months!
Now to learn this layout...
Nice - congratulatinos! :)
Post by: Emospence on Thu, 31 October 2013, 20:01:24
Just had this come in the mail!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qT4y53B.jpg)
From a friend in Japan where the price difference between pro 2 and type-s is much smaller :)
As much as I love the sound of the normal topre switches (FC660C in my case), the type-s is very satisfying to type on. The whole experience feels tighter when you don't have the upstroke sounds. The biggest gain is the spacebar, which makes a hell of a noise on my FC660C, but is beautifully uniform sounding on this.
Also surprised at how good these 45g domes feel after using 55g for the last few months!
Now to learn this layout...
Which do you prefer? ;D
Post by: kelske on Thu, 31 October 2013, 20:56:07
Which do you prefer? ;D
I don't have a definitive answer to that yet sorry, will see how I feel after a week of use :thumb:
Post by: tuxsavvy on Fri, 01 November 2013, 10:58:42
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:47:25
Post by: Michael on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:49:16
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:54:52
Post by: goobus on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:57:37
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:58:19
Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?
Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90)
^^ It says lite & pro in description
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:24:11
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
"Made In USA"
Nah.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 12:33:04
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
"Made In USA"
Nah.
maybe Made in U.S.A. = assembled with parts from Japan
Probably because those small black pieces have to be attached....
Post by: 127001 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 14:40:22
I really like the thing. It's not what I expected at all.
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 20:11:30
Got mine today. :)
I really like the thing. It's not what I expected at all.
Congratz , you are really going to enjoy this keyboard
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 01 November 2013, 21:34:49
(http://i.imgur.com/IxgBw8w.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0B9h9kh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CZzMJrd.jpg)
Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 01 November 2013, 23:17:54
Post by: 1pq on Fri, 01 November 2013, 23:40:43
Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:01:35
Worth it
Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.
I'll agree that it's worth it because the HHKB is a glorious keyboard, but is it worth more than a 660C? I think not, at least not yet. We'll see :P
For now, my rough thoughts:
- HHKB has a more raw feel because of the plastic case mounting which is nice and fun, but I prefer the softer feedback which the 660C provides because of the steel plate.
+1 point 660C for dem feelz
- The famous and worthy thock on the HHKB is awesome, as expected, but I also still love the springier and poppier (not real word but you get what I mean) sounding thock on my 660C just as much. People who have tried both or have a 660C probably should know what I mean when I say springier and poppier.
Tie here. They both sound awesome in their own ways.
The looks I'll have to give to the HHKB because of the more uniform look and prettier blank keycaps. The 660C is just as pretty but those Leopold stock caps....
+1 point to HHKB for dem lookz.
So for now, they're on equal standing... this is too difficult :(
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:19:53
HHKB is a bit unexpected, but it grows on you quickly. Mine did :)
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 02 November 2013, 00:38:15
Here's my unmodified one.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZtrsiAG.jpg)
Love this with the blanks!!
Post by: kelske on Sat, 02 November 2013, 04:30:51
It was supposed to come in Wednesday but got delayed to today... the majority of my last paycheck from the part-time I quit went to this thing and I blame it entirely on this thread... fml.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IxgBw8w.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0B9h9kh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CZzMJrd.jpg)
Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
Didn't take you long to flip that spacebar bro...
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 02 November 2013, 21:05:43
Can't wait!
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sat, 02 November 2013, 23:55:05
It was supposed to come in Wednesday but got delayed to today... the majority of my last paycheck from the part-time I quit went to this thing and I blame it entirely on this thread... fml.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/IxgBw8w.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0B9h9kh.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CZzMJrd.jpg)
Now to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
Excellent color choice, blank white has always been my favorite. :D
At first I also thought the FC660C felt nicer, but after a while I began to prefer the HHKB. The FC660C almost feels lighter and less tactile to me.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 14:49:21
Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?
Bird Electron JP
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
"Made In USA"
Nah.
Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.
Where did you get that cover? Same place as the rest?Yeah, it's pretty sweet. But did they make it for the Lite 2? I notice it has space where the arrows on that board might be.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/ELECTRON-%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95HappyHackingKB-103%C3%97290%C3%9713mm-%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AB%E8%A3%BD-RF-HH/dp/B004CCC5EG/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1383325015&sr=1-2&keywords=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E9%9B%BB%E5%AD%90)
^^ It says lite & pro in description
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
looks like elite might carry it but currently OOS/coming soon
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=rf_hhek)
"Made In USA"
Nah.
maybe Made in U.S.A. = assembled with parts from Japan
Probably because those small black pieces have to be attached....
I apologise for the delay in response. Yes both Bro Caps and SpAmRaY were spot on there. They are made by Bird Electron JP. Here is their site (warning: Japanese only): http://shop.bird-electron.co.jp/shopbrand/008/P/ (http://shop.bird-electron.co.jp/shopbrand/008/P/)
They (Bird Electron) also makes a whole bunch of other accessories, even for HHKB and fair few others. Also Bird Electron gets a mentioning on PFU Limited's site (warning: Japanese only): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/option.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/option.html)
Even more accessories for both HHKB and others from PFU Limited website. Again all Japanese only:
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item1/item1_1.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item1/item1_1.html)
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item3/item3_1.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item3/item3_1.html)
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item5/item5_1.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/20_campaign/item5/item5_1.html)
- http://www.vshopu.com/catepr.cgi?cate=KBET (http://www.vshopu.com/catepr.cgi?cate=KBET) (as referred from here (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/showroom.html))
For the U.S. version found on elitekeyboards.com I guess they are waiting for the interest/pre-orders to mount up before they manufacture them to for the potential owners. Inevitably there's no photos for them so I don't think there any information as to what they look like.
The little gap on bottom right I believe was deliberately made. Not sure of the exact reasoning behind it, possibly with those owners of lite2 the (smaller) arrow keys are probably overhanging compared to any of the regular key caps on the HHKB series. Maybe it would probably look ugly if they have to make the bottom right sort of stick out on an angle just to cover the arrow keys for the lite2 and would probably look ugly if the subsequent owner does not have the lite2 variant.
As for buying the keyboard roof and other accessories (some). They can be ordered from PFU direct (which is basically PFU's online shop for ordering stuff directly from PFU manufacturer I guess) also Japanese only:
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/ (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/) (HHKB keyboard range)
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/option.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/option.html) (HHKB accessories range)
- http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/goods.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/direct/hhkb/goods.html) (HHKB branded T-shirts)
Though specifically, when I ordered my HHKB with accessories, I did not actually order them from PFU direct myself, but rather through a private Japanese proxy. I actually never knew that PFU direct would stock those non-PFU related accessories on their own site until not long ago (as of writing). Of course, one doesn't really need to order them through PFU direct if they choose not to. amazon.co.jp and rakuten.co.jp both stock keyboard and keyboard accessories (of sorts).
I would have presume that my private Japanese proxy would have ordered all my HHKB accessories through PFU direct because not only PFU has them available but it would be a heck a lot easier to just order them from one site and let PFU in this case deal with the accessories and what not.
Here are some more photos of HHKB with keyboard roof. Iniitally I thought one of the photos was the elitekeyboards.com variant of the keyboard roof but on closer inspection, that was not the case in other words it was the Bird Electron variant. These photos are obviously not mine. I only have HHKB Pro Type-S JP (white):(http://www.flickr.com/photos/o2dazone/3808183154/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamasrepus/3556966155/)[attach=2]
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Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elektrizer/galleries/72157623693270050/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elektrizer/galleries/72157623693270050/) and http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/hhkb/ (http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/hhkb/)
Just posted this in the mail thread but figured I would post it here too since I can't contain how happy I am with this! HHKB Type-S!
Very nice photo! Now you can compare the photos of your HHKB Pro Type-S box against mine (HHKB Pro JP Type-S). ;D
Post by: esoomenona on Sun, 03 November 2013, 14:53:43
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 03 November 2013, 15:35:04
The covers on EK aren't the same. They used to be sold, sold out, never restocked.
o.O It would be nice if there were photos of it. I never seen the elitekeyboards.com variant of HHKB keyboard roof.
Post by: morpheus on Sun, 03 November 2013, 22:47:29
Worth itNow to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.
I'll agree that it's worth it because the HHKB is a glorious keyboard, but is it worth more than a 660C? I think not, at least not yet. We'll see :P
For now, my rough thoughts:
- HHKB has a more raw feel because of the plastic case mounting which is nice and fun, but I prefer the softer feedback which the 660C provides because of the steel plate.
+1 point 660C for dem feelz
- The famous and worthy thock on the HHKB is awesome, as expected, but I also still love the springier and poppier (not real word but you get what I mean) sounding thock on my 660C just as much. People who have tried both or have a 660C probably should know what I mean when I say springier and poppier.
Tie here. They both sound awesome in their own ways.
The looks I'll have to give to the HHKB because of the more uniform look and prettier blank keycaps. The 660C is just as pretty but those Leopold stock caps....
+1 point to HHKB for dem lookz.
So for now, they're on equal standing... this is too difficult :(
I would keep the FC660C. I know exactly what you're talking about the feedback on the FC660C. It's actually more pleasing than the HHKB IMHO. I have both and I'm thinking about trading my HHKB for a Realforce.
Post by: Moosecraft on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:02:24
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:27:05
Congratulations localhost and Vesper - welcome to the club!
HHKB is a bit unexpected, but it grows on you quickly. Mine did :)
Thanks!!! It sure does feel great to be part of this exclusive club! It took me 2 years to get there but the wait was worth it. It really does live up to the expectations :P I remember seeing one nearly 2 years ago and going crazy about it... until I saw the price... I told myself, "That's waaaay too expensive for a freaking keyboard, and I'd have to be retarded to spend that much money on one keyboard"......... I currently own 4 pieces of Topre hardware... each very expensive :))
I've already gotten used to the layout (took a good day and a half to get a good grasp of it). I can see ergonomics of it, but I still prefer my standard layout... but the looks and sound won't let me go...
Didn't take you long to flip that spacebar bro...
Lol! Yeah, bro... I love me my flipped spacebar... the regular position literally has the bottom edge of the spacebar cutting into the middle of my thumb, and my thumb is only making contact with the edge when I press down; it's not very pleasant.
Excellent color choice, blank white has always been my favorite. :D
At first I also thought the FC660C felt nicer, but after a while I began to prefer the HHKB. The FC660C almost feels lighter and less tactile to me.
I agree with you that the blank white and grey keys are adorable on the HHKB! I would also love the white/grey keys on a black case too!
I do love the distinct feel of the HHKB, and find it to be very fun and and the case mount feels plastic-y (which may sound like a bad thing but it's actually a very good thing, and I love it!!!). However, I still do love the springy/pop-ier feel on the 660C as much, if not more than the HHKB. I actually think the 660C is actually more tactile because of that, but I think the whole thing may be subjective thing.
I would keep the FC660C. I know exactly what you're talking about the feedback on the FC660C. It's actually more pleasing than the HHKB IMHO. I have both and I'm thinking about trading my HHKB for a Realforce.
Yeah, dood. You know exactly what I mean. The 660C is just more springy, poppy, and soft. I wouldn't necessarily say it's better than the feel of the HHKB, but more just preference, and so far, I think the 660C just feels more satisfying to type on, purely based on switch feel. The plate does an amazing job softening up the bottoming out feel, and provides awesome feedback.
Post by: Michael on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:35:33
(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:43:10
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
Looks amazing aside from the right shift
Post by: Michael on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:44:22
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
Looks amazing aside from the right shift
Blame Thorpe corporation for not giving the HHKB love in their keycap sets T_T
It bothered me too much not having the proper profile with the cap that actually filled the space. So I went with that
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 04 November 2013, 01:52:26
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
so bootiful... dat chartreuse skull... :'(
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 03:07:59
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That green goes so well with the black!
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 03:49:27
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg
Sorry but I can't help to think it as such. :))
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 03:59:01
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg
Sorry but I can't help to think it as such. :))
Or V?
http://www.v.co.nz/#products
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 04:07:24
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg (http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg)
Sorry but I can't help to think it as such. :))
Or V?
http://www.v.co.nz/#products (http://www.v.co.nz/#products)
Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol. ;D
Post by: kelske on Mon, 04 November 2013, 04:13:50
More
(http://s2.goodfon.com/wallpaper/previews-middle/159543.jpg) :))
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 05:09:23
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg (http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg)
Sorry but I can't help to think it as such. :))
Or V?
http://www.v.co.nz/#products (http://www.v.co.nz/#products)
Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol. ;D
V black?
http://v-energy.com.au/products/v-black/
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 04 November 2013, 06:06:01
How about this...?More:))
(http://s2.goodfon.com/wallpaper/previews-middle/159543.jpg) (http://s2.goodfon.com/wallpaper/previews-middle/159543.jpg)
Digging up some older photos...
(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
That colour scheme (apart from the skull caps) sort of reminds me of the Monster energy drinks they have for sale where I live: http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg (http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/caffeine/monster.jpg)
Sorry but I can't help to think it as such. :))
Or V?
http://www.v.co.nz/#products (http://www.v.co.nz/#products)
Nah, original V cans had more green colour as background compared to Monster having black background. I would say it would look like original V should the colours of that keyboard and the case be opposite (that is green case with black keys) lol. ;D
V black?
http://v-energy.com.au/products/v-black/ (http://v-energy.com.au/products/v-black/)
A razer branded stuff..
Then the V black, which came a lot later after that Monster energy drink. :p Anyway I'm not going to change my mind with what my first impressions of, whatever the black case with green key caps would signify to you or anyone else is totally depends on your own experiences. I respect all the inputs of what it would remind people of but I'm sticking firm with whatever I said initially.
Post by: esoomenona on Mon, 04 November 2013, 08:19:29
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
Looks amazing aside from the right shift
Blame Thorpe corporation for not giving the HHKB love in their keycap sets T_T
It bothered me too much not having the proper profile with the cap that actually filled the space. So I went with that
I do agree its better than putting the caps lock there.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 06 November 2013, 13:55:30
Digging up some older photos...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qDAPUAK.jpg)
hmmmmmm so yeah I want a HHKB Pro now wow :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: unicomp_uc on Wed, 06 November 2013, 14:19:49
Post by: Moosecraft on Wed, 06 November 2013, 15:21:14
Post by: theMANtonio on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:18:03
After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread :eek:). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!
Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!
Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,
Post by: TimIsABat on Wed, 06 November 2013, 17:24:03
After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread :eek:). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!
So beautiful. I am pretty much looking to do the same thing with my board.
Post by: unicomp_uc on Wed, 06 November 2013, 19:46:03
After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread :eek:). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!
Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!
Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,
Didn't affect mine either, really. I tried it because I heard a lot of people talking about it and I'm really glad that I did. Besides the fact I think it looks cooler and more unique (personal opinion), it actually feels so much better and strangely, more natural.
Thanks for the kind words on my board!
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 06 November 2013, 19:48:19
After this post I'm done spamming geekhack with my favorite photos from today's impromptu photo shoot after I flipped the spacebar (third thread :eek:). I know it's overkill, but I am technically showing my 'HHKB Pro 2 Love'!
Beautiful. I need some blank white keys for my black HHKB!
Does turning the spacebar like that make much of a difference? I guess I don't have the problem of the spacebar affecting my thumb much,
Didn't affect mine either, really. I tried it because I heard a lot of people talking about it and I'm really glad that I did. Besides the fact I think it looks cooler and more unique (personal opinion), it actually feels so much better and strangely, more natural.
Thanks for the kind words on my board!
There was a thread about the flipped spacebar not too long ago.
All thanks to CPTbadass
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 08 November 2013, 02:52:09
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:06:22
So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:10:32
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
TYPING ON A CC :eek:
JK... kinda :))
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:20:06
I really like the sound (the actual sound) of the Fc660c but the pad printed key caps worries me. Should that stop me from getting the keyboard?
And then there is the HHKB pro 2 and that is just as good but from what i hear i might prefer the plate mounted vs the case mounted. Not sure.
And care to shed some light?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:26:00
ARRG. I can't make up my mind between the HHKB and the FC660C.
I really like the sound (the actual sound) of the Fc660c but the pad printed key caps worries me. Should that stop me from getting the keyboard?
And then there is the HHKB pro 2 and that is just as good but from what i hear i might prefer the plate mounted vs the case mounted. Not sure.
And care to shed some light?
Worth itNow to decide which one to keep... the 660C or this HHKB... Let the testing begin.
I'm curious to hear what you think of the two. I'm going to buy either the FC660C or the HHKB, but I'm not sure I want to spend the extra cash for the hhkb. When you've fully tested, I'd love to know what you think of the hhkb layout.
I'll agree that it's worth it because the HHKB is a glorious keyboard, but is it worth more than a 660C? I think not, at least not yet. We'll see :P
For now, my rough thoughts:
- HHKB has a more raw feel because of the plastic case mounting which is nice and fun, but I prefer the softer feedback which the 660C provides because of the steel plate.
+1 point 660C for dem feelz
- The famous and worthy thock on the HHKB is awesome, as expected, but I also still love the springier and poppier (not real word but you get what I mean) sounding thock on my 660C just as much. People who have tried both or have a 660C probably should know what I mean when I say springier and poppier.
Tie here. They both sound awesome in their own ways.
The looks I'll have to give to the HHKB because of the more uniform look and prettier blank keycaps. The 660C is just as pretty but those Leopold stock caps....
+1 point to HHKB for dem lookz.
So for now, they're on equal standing... this is too difficult :(
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49129.msg1101467#msg1101467
Welcome to my world.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 08 November 2013, 03:34:55
rowdy, I supposed you flipped the Fn key to the Alt or Command on the right, didn't you? I don't think anyone could manage a right thumb on the actual Fn key and then have the middle/index finger on the arrows :D
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 04:11:27
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
TYPING ON A CC :eek:
JK... kinda :))
I used to have it on Esc, but found I was pressing it too much so I moved it to `~ which I use far less, even though I am on a Mac (which uses Command-` to switch between open windows in the active application).
rowdy, I supposed you flipped the Fn key to the Alt or Command on the right, didn't you? I don't think anyone could manage a right thumb on the actual Fn key and then have the middle/index finger on the arrows :D
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
Fn is still Fn - that little key to the right of the right Shift. I have fairly large hands.
Post by: unicomp_uc on Fri, 08 November 2013, 07:06:16
So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
No wonder you keep talking about struggling to adjust to the arrow keys post after post. You may "need" the very bottom left for its original purpose, but why not just adjust that to be your additional 'fn' key? You would never take your hands off home row if you're a touch typist. Since you aren't a touch typist, at least you would no longer be trying to manhandle a combination of fn and the arrow on the same side of the board.
Just left hand pinky the fn and right hand is already resting on the left arrow key for easy navigation if you're in the correct typing position to answer the original question.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 08 November 2013, 08:54:23
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 08 November 2013, 08:56:13
But there is no Fn key on the left side of HHKB, is there?
You can remap one of the diamond's to be FN on the bottom row
Post by: unicomp_uc on Fri, 08 November 2013, 09:05:44
But there is no Fn key on the left side of HHKB, is there?
Turn dipswitch 4 on to remap fn to the bottom left key, turn on 5 to move alt to the key right next to it.
Post by: hasu on Fri, 08 November 2013, 09:14:10
1. for arrow keys,You can use ctrl+[npfb] instead of arrow keys. IIRC, most of apps accept those emacs bind with easy configuration.
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2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?Buy not bizarre keyboard ;p
Post by: tuxsavvy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 18:57:03
"Buy not bizarre keyboard" :))1. for arrow keys,You can use ctrl+[npfb] instead of arrow keys. IIRC, most of apps accept those emacs bind with easy configuration.Quote2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?Buy not bizarre keyboard ;p
No, seriously you can get something like KeyRemap4MacBook (https://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/) (credit goes to hydrospell whom pointed this out) which will happily allow one to rebind say for instance your 1/F1 key for instance into your tilde. Although it will not be as close to where the tilde used to sit but I'm sure one can eventually accomodate for that (over time of course). Having gotten used to the idea of pressing Ctrl+` to switch between the IME input on PS3 I tried to replicate that on a computer which worked until I got my HHKB. Now if I were to do something like Ctrl+` on computer I would instead remap it as Ctrl+@ instead. As a side note, no I have not tried plugging my HHKB into my PS3 so I would not know how my PS3 would react.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 November 2013, 23:24:36
So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
No wonder you keep talking about struggling to adjust to the arrow keys post after post. You may "need" the very bottom left for its original purpose, but why not just adjust that to be your additional 'fn' key? You would never take your hands off home row if you're a touch typist. Since you aren't a touch typist, at least you would no longer be trying to manhandle a combination of fn and the arrow on the same side of the board.
Just left hand pinky the fn and right hand is already resting on the left arrow key for easy navigation if you're in the correct typing position to answer the original question.
I can touch type, it is just rare that I find myself in a position to do so. Most of the longer replies I post here I sort of touch type (like now, for instance). There I don't tend to make too many mistakes, and usually correct them by tapping backspace a couple of times, rather than typing the rest of the sentence and only then navigating back to correct the typos.
But most of what I do is short bursts of special characters while programming.
Post by: unicomp_uc on Fri, 08 November 2013, 23:53:08
So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
No wonder you keep talking about struggling to adjust to the arrow keys post after post. You may "need" the very bottom left for its original purpose, but why not just adjust that to be your additional 'fn' key? You would never take your hands off home row if you're a touch typist. Since you aren't a touch typist, at least you would no longer be trying to manhandle a combination of fn and the arrow on the same side of the board.
Just left hand pinky the fn and right hand is already resting on the left arrow key for easy navigation if you're in the correct typing position to answer the original question.
I can touch type, it is just rare that I find myself in a position to do so. Most of the longer replies I post here I sort of touch type (like now, for instance). There I don't tend to make too many mistakes, and usually correct them by tapping backspace a couple of times, rather than typing the rest of the sentence and only then navigating back to correct the typos.
But most of what I do is short bursts of special characters while programming.
that's cool man. I was just wondering why you haven't used the dip switch to make the bottom left key a fn button so you could use your right hand just for arrow navigation regardless of where your hands fell on the board.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 03:00:53
So I am typing this in my new HHKB Pro 2 black and I can't say for sure it is love yet but I do have a couple of questions but I am not sure if I want to rescan 7 pages of this thread or other threads so....
1. for arrow keys, I have to press the FN key down. What are your usual mode of doing this? I find that using my right hand pinky to press the Fn down and the the rest of the fingers on the diamond shape keys are awkward and tiring. Is there a better way?
2. I need to get used to Command-Tilde on the right hand to switch between open window in the Mac; normally I use the left hand instead because they tilde is on the left. This is a bizarre layout. Any tips?
Due to my somewhat chaotic typing method, I might not be the best to respond to this, but ...
1. I usually do Fn with my right thumb, then press the arrow keys with my right index or middle finger.
2. Right thumb on right command, and right index finger on ~` (which happens to have my 3D CC on it atm).
No wonder you keep talking about struggling to adjust to the arrow keys post after post. You may "need" the very bottom left for its original purpose, but why not just adjust that to be your additional 'fn' key? You would never take your hands off home row if you're a touch typist. Since you aren't a touch typist, at least you would no longer be trying to manhandle a combination of fn and the arrow on the same side of the board.
Just left hand pinky the fn and right hand is already resting on the left arrow key for easy navigation if you're in the correct typing position to answer the original question.
I can touch type, it is just rare that I find myself in a position to do so. Most of the longer replies I post here I sort of touch type (like now, for instance). There I don't tend to make too many mistakes, and usually correct them by tapping backspace a couple of times, rather than typing the rest of the sentence and only then navigating back to correct the typos.
But most of what I do is short bursts of special characters while programming.
that's cool man. I was just wondering why you haven't used the dip switch to make the bottom left key a fn button so you could use your right hand just for arrow navigation regardless of where your hands fell on the board.
Entropy ;)
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Sun, 10 November 2013, 18:26:48
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 10 November 2013, 18:35:39
Probably the best christmas present ever?
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 10 November 2013, 18:44:10
I'm getting my HHKB for christmas. I can't wait!Absolutely! you're going to love it!
Probably the best christmas present ever?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 10 November 2013, 21:41:31
I'm getting my HHKB for christmas. I can't wait!Absolutely! you're going to love it!
Probably the best christmas present ever?
At first quick glance I thought you said "Apparently you're going to love it" :))
Post by: Emospence on Mon, 11 November 2013, 01:22:29
Absolutely! you're going to love it!
You have the exact same two keyboards as me, lol..
Post by: reziak on Wed, 13 November 2013, 16:28:34
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 13 November 2013, 16:52:48
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congratulations! Welcome to the club (almost).
Hope you enjoy the oneness with cup rubber!
Post by: kelske on Wed, 13 November 2013, 18:27:44
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:
(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 13 November 2013, 18:34:02
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
:)) seems to be a popular trend
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 13 November 2013, 20:29:27
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 13 November 2013, 20:48:07
haha, that's awesome! I love your avatar btw! And @ Hunterangel...don't resist the urge! it will be the best decision ever!Absolutely! you're going to love it!
You have the exact same two keyboards as me, lol..
Post by: Emospence on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:00:25
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
Hope I'll feel that way about 55g RF heh
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:02:57
And no, you don't need to tell me about 55g because, I am done with keyboard, you hear me!!!
Post by: Emospence on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:53:24
After using the HHKB Pro 2 for 4 days I am very happy with it and do not understand the fuss about 55g? 45g feels pretty solid for me. It doesn't feel mushy. Admittedly it is not as hard as Matias Quiet Pro nor Code MX Clears but it's not that soft either. It is a bit harder than the MX Blues though, so I thought the HHKB strikes a awfully good balance between Blues and Clears/Alps.
And no, you don't need to tell me about 55g because, I am done with keyboard, you hear me!!!
I've been reading that HHKB is actually between 45g and 55g RF even though it's rated at 45g, and that 55g is quite a bit snappier
;D
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:56:49
Post by: kelske on Wed, 13 November 2013, 21:59:47
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
Hope I'll feel that way about 55g RF heh
Mate.. just swap the domes into your HHKB! then you have the turbo-mega
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 13 November 2013, 22:03:50
Got new key caps - check
Found my dental bands - check
Swapped in 55g domes - check
Post by: reziak on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:24:19
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
Lol! Oh man, might be the case. Will probably still work on those Pokers...Gotta have something to display all these keycaps on!
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:40:26
It didn't happen with the Poker 2 which was able to wake up the Air from sleep.
Anyone observe this?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:41:31
(http://i.imgur.com/dLs5VXe.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ZHRTCEH.jpg)
55g still feels best :P
Post by: Emospence on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:50:46
Mate.. just swap the domes into your HHKB! then you have the turbo-mega
I'm actually looking forward to having a normal TKL layout and plate mount, feels more different so I can better justify the purchase heh.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 13 November 2013, 23:56:43
I plug the HHKB to the MacBook Air. During breaks, the Air goes to sleep. When I come back and press Return or Space in the HHKB, it doesn't wake up the Air. It's as though the connection to USB is cut.
It didn't happen with the Poker 2 which was able to wake up the Air from sleep.
Anyone observe this?
I get this with a few mechanical keyboards (and a Mac mini). Some wake the mac from its slumber, some do not. The HHKB does not.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:00:39
My HHKB was itchin' for a slight change of clothes today ~Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dLs5VXe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZHRTCEH.jpg)
55g still feels best :P
Wow, that looks awesome! I'm super jealous of that lime green set. Does it come with extra keys to fit the 23u/ub?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:04:09
My HHKB was itchin' for a slight change of clothes today ~Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dLs5VXe.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZHRTCEH.jpg)
55g still feels best :P
She's a sassy lil' ***** in her green 'n white. Looks good.
Post by: kelske on Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:16:21
I plug the HHKB to the MacBook Air. During breaks, the Air goes to sleep. When I come back and press Return or Space in the HHKB, it doesn't wake up the Air. It's as though the connection to USB is cut.
It didn't happen with the Poker 2 which was able to wake up the Air from sleep.
Anyone observe this?
Try turning on DipSwitch #6 "Wake Up" :)
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:19:28
Edit: bet that rowdy didn't know too :P
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:20:44
Wow, that looks awesome! I'm super jealous of that lime green set. Does it come with extra keys to fit the 23u/ub?
The set doesn't come with extra caps for a 23u/b, but if you don't use all the keys on a 87u/b or 104u/b, you can use the left overs to do so:
(http://i.imgur.com/nRTTVeD.jpg)
She's a sassy lil' ***** in her green 'n white. Looks good.
She is the feisty one ;) Thanks for the compliments.
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:07:09
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:10:10
So let me ask you guys - if I would be using a HHKB primarily for gaming would the 55g be better than the 45? How do you even get a 55g? I don't see it on elite keyboards. I see you guys talking about switching domes. How complicated is that?
A 55g HHKB is only available through user modding, so you would have to own both a 55g Realforce board and an HHKB and swap out the rubber domes. I've never opened up a Topre board so I can't comment on the difficulty.
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:20:27
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:49:12
So let me ask you guys - if I would be using a HHKB primarily for gaming would the 55g be better than the 45? How do you even get a 55g? I don't see it on elite keyboards. I see you guys talking about switching domes. How complicated is that?
A 55g HHKB is only available through user modding, so you would have to own both a 55g Realforce board and an HHKB and swap out the rubber domes. I've never opened up a Topre board so I can't comment on the difficulty.
Modding a Topre board is much much more simpler than modding a Cherry board. The only thing you need to mod a Topre is a screw driver, and maybe scissors and some glue, but not required :D
Is the 45g not good for gaming? I assume the 45g HHKB is uniform all around. I mainly play games like SC2 and DOTA. All day I've been trying to find thick PBT keycaps to equip either a WASD v2 or a Filco Mj2 with, but now I'm considering going topre instead.
I don't think that it's not good enough for gaming, but rather just not optimal because of the nature of the switch. This is especially true for FPS games, but I think it's not bad for games like SC2 and DOTA. Of course, this is just my opinion. 55g is my favorite Topre and I think it's better overall, but I still prefer Cherry for gaming.
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:53:48
Post by: Michael on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:04:20
So do you think I should just continue my search for thick pbt OEM profile caps and go back to the cherry? For some reason I have this idea that topre may be better for gaming. Is that not the case?
Nobody can decide what switch type works best for you. Only you can do that. If you have the ability to buy and try a couple boards, by all means, do so. But asking people what switch is best, is a waste of your time.
It's all personal preference.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:07:54
So do you think I should just continue my search for thick pbt OEM profile caps and go back to the cherry? For some reason I have this idea that topre may be better for gaming. Is that not the case?
Nobody can decide what switch type works best for you. Only you can do that. If you have the ability to buy and try a couple boards, by all means, do so. But asking people what switch is best, is a waste of your time.
It's all personal preference.
This man speaks the truth.
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:15:56
Post by: Michael on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:17:15
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:59:39
I plug the HHKB to the MacBook Air. During breaks, the Air goes to sleep. When I come back and press Return or Space in the HHKB, it doesn't wake up the Air. It's as though the connection to USB is cut.
It didn't happen with the Poker 2 which was able to wake up the Air from sleep.
Anyone observe this?
Try turning on DipSwitch #6 "Wake Up" :)
And I'm all like "wut I didn't even".
So I switched that one on and we'll see what happens in the morning.
Thanks!
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 14 November 2013, 03:01:21
I understand what you're saying - but if its a common opinion that topre isn't great for gaming its something I'd like to know before investing hundreds of dollars into a board. I don't really see any pro RTS gamers using topre, which makes me a little nervous about it for gaming. I see a lot of people here talking about how the 45g is "mushy". Can you tell me a little about that?
They are "mushy," but that doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing. This "mushy" you're talking about can also be described as "soft," or "boobs" by others. For typing, this mushy is what makes it so pleasant and smooth. I find that the mushiness of the 45g Topre to be less desirable when gaming though, as it's not responsive enough for me. This is why I'd recommend 55g for gaming as it's much more snappy/stiff/responsive with less mush in the middle because the stiffer dome helps push up faster against your fingers. As you can see though, I PREFER moderately stiff switches for gaming because I think it's more responsive, which is why I also prefer moderately stiff Cherry linear switches for gaming, as I perceive it to be most responsive and the right balance of stiffness.
I hope this helps, but ultimately, it all comes down to actually trying the switches out. Topre was very different to what I had imagined it to be, and I did A LOT of reading and research before buying my first Topre board. And even after having owned my Leopold 660C with 45g Topre for awhile, I was again shocked by how different the 55g Topre felt compared to the 45g. To make things more complicated... all the 45g Topre boards feel different (660C vs HHKB vs RF), believe it or not. So yeah... :))
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 03:50:02
I understand what you're saying - but if its a common opinion that topre isn't great for gaming its something I'd like to know before investing hundreds of dollars into a board. I don't really see any pro RTS gamers using topre, which makes me a little nervous about it for gaming. I see a lot of people here talking about how the 45g is "mushy". Can you tell me a little about that?
They are "mushy," but that doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing. This "mushy" you're talking about can also be described as "soft," or "boobs" by others. For typing, this mushy is what makes it so pleasant and smooth. I find that the mushiness of the 45g Topre to be less desirable when gaming though, as it's not responsive enough for me. This is why I'd recommend 55g for gaming as it's much more snappy/stiff/responsive with less mush in the middle because the stiffer dome helps push up faster against your fingers. As you can see though, I PREFER moderately stiff switches for gaming because I think it's more responsive, which is why I also prefer moderately stiff Cherry linear switches for gaming, as I perceive it to be most responsive and the right balance of stiffness.
I hope this helps, but ultimately, it all comes down to actually trying the switches out. Topre was very different to what I had imagined it to be, and I did A LOT of reading and research before buying my first Topre board. And even after having owned my Leopold 660C with 45g Topre for awhile, I was again shocked by how different the 55g Topre felt compared to the 45g. To make things more complicated... all the 45g Topre boards feel different (660C vs HHKB vs RF), believe it or not. So yeah... :))
Thanks kitten :)
Yea, I've heard that the boards feel different too. I've read that the HHKB 45g is more responsive than the Realforce 45. I really like blue switches, but the thought of anything heavier is a little daunting. I have issues with my right hand and it already gets tired on blues during typing. I don't do a ton of typing, however and my left hand is always on point for gaming so its not a huge deal. The 45g HHKB may work well for me. I would use browns instead of blues for less force requirement but I LOVE how clicky blues are. I love the sound. Its just me in my home office and no one else can hear it :)
I wish there was someone in my area (new orleans) that would let me try their topre board :( I'm still just confused and overwhelmed lol.
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 November 2013, 03:57:56
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 04:02:33
Let me share with you my thoughts? I think if you are going to mechanical direction, I'd think that you will not be completely satisfied with just one keyboard. As such, I would think it is good to start with what you think is comfortable, which is Blues. Try it for 3 months and then get another board - maybe an Alps... and later you can move to Topre. Besides, it is more fun that way. Then you can think about modding. There is no point in settling down with one. After all, that's the reason you are joining GH right? :D
True! I've had my blackwidow ultimate for a while now and want to get another. I'm either going to get the realforce 55g, the hhkb pro 2, a WASD v2, or a Filco Majetouch 2. If I go the mechanical (non topre) route I'm going to get thick pbt caps, which I've been looking for for a while. I posted about it today here but I really haven't found any leads :(
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 November 2013, 04:06:28
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 04:11:10
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 November 2013, 04:27:15
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Post by: cruk on Thu, 14 November 2013, 08:02:43
TKL is too big for moving about then.
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 14 November 2013, 08:03:51
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: Belfong on Thu, 14 November 2013, 08:59:49
Absolutely if you can get both. I have one at home and the other (HHKB) that I now use at work.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
I went for the black HHKB even though I prefer the white. Reason being I knew one day I will want to buy replacement key caps and I can get the white-grey replacement key caps which really looked sexy on a black base. There are many photos on this so you can take a look. I don't think black key caps looked good on white base.
Post by: Emospence on Thu, 14 November 2013, 09:42:14
Let me share with you my thoughts? I think if you are going to mechanical direction, I'd think that you will not be completely satisfied with just one keyboard. As such, I would think it is good to start with what you think is comfortable, which is Blues. Try it for 3 months and then get another board - maybe an Alps... and later you can move to Topre. Besides, it is more fun that way. Then you can think about modding. There is no point in settling down with one. After all, that's the reason you are joining GH right? :D
I am personally here to find a keyboard that I can settle down with, get two for both home and work be happy ;D
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:10:04
TKL is too big for moving about then.
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
You're asking THAT around here? :))
Post by: unicomp_uc on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:07:43
TKL is too big for moving about then.
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
You're asking THAT around here? :))
Is it reasonable? No. :-[
Is it necessary? Only if you want to be awesome. :thumb:
Think of the key swapping possibilities for the board you're actively using. : :eek:
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 18:51:33
Post by: aggiejy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 20:31:10
I am personally here to find a keyboard that I can settle down with, get two for both home and work be happy ;D
Hehe, that's the reason I came here... a couple years and ~30 keyboards ago.
Post by: cruk on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:44:00
Absolutely if you can get both. I have one at home and the other (HHKB) that I now use at work.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
I went for the black HHKB even though I prefer the white. Reason being I knew one day I will want to buy replacement key caps and I can get the white-grey replacement key caps which really looked sexy on a black base. There are many photos on this so you can take a look. I don't think black key caps looked good on white base.
TKL is too big for moving about then.
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
You're asking THAT around here? :))
TKL is too big for moving about then.
HHKB Pro 2 or a 60% like Poker is what you should be eye-ing.
Ahh.. your choices are now narrowed down.
Is it reasonable to get both? at least that's what I am planning to do...hard choices between a white or black though (everything i own is black so black would be easier to match..but white seems more adventurous)
You're asking THAT around here? :))
Is it reasonable? No. :-[
Is it necessary? Only if you want to be awesome. :thumb:
Think of the key swapping possibilities for the board you're actively using. : :eek:
Get both - Poker for the week and HHKB for Sunday best :)
I just needed some more encouragement ;D poker white and hhkb black it is :p
Post by: reziak on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:04:37
Coming from MX Brown switches, this thing feels like a dream! It's like a buttery smooth brown switch. I know they're lighter as far as Topre switches go, but I feel like the initial depress feels a tad bit heavier than brown switches, making each keystroke feel a little more solid.
I'm loving the layout! It all feels very natural aside from the occasional string of ````` or \\\\\\ when I make a mistake, but the Backspace key location is starting to feel more and more right. I'm noticing increased accuracy with U and Y as well - I just taught myself to touch type this summer and would still mistakenly hit U when I was reaching for Y probably 30% of the time. On this board they feel like they're just in the right spot! My only qualm at the moment is that Fn + Del is a pain in the ass to hit. Wish it were Fn+ Backspace like on my Poker 2.
It took me a few minutes and a little Googling to figure out why the Winkeys weren't working - anyone know why you have to be in "Lite" mode to get them to work? Seems odd!
Anyway, I'm loving the feel and sound of these Topre keys! Now to hunt down a set of white/gray keycaps and a red Esc :thumb:
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:25:30
Just received my HHKB a day earlier than expected. Initial impressions:Amazing coincidence, I actually just got my HHKB in the mail yesterday, and it's amazing. I'm having trouble finding adjectives to properly describe the keyfeel. It's incredible. I actually enjoy just sitting with it on my lap and typing with the keyboard not plugged into anything. It feels so exactly right. :thumb: :thumb:
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:26:57
I actually enjoy just sitting with it on my lap and typing with the keyboard not plugged into anything. It feels so exactly right. :thumb: :thumb:
It is so exciting to see new HHKB users. Now just think if it was 55g!! ;)
Post by: reziak on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:31:55
I actually enjoy just sitting with it on my lap and typing with the keyboard not plugged into anything. It feels so exactly right. :thumb: :thumb:
I did this for a bit before I plugged it in, too....Geek equivalent of talking to yourself? But yeah, feels great! Congrats on your new board!
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:37:02
Post by: unicomp_uc on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:44:36
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:54:12
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:56:54
Or is that fortunately?
Post by: unicomp_uc on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:58:43
Unfortunately I got my HHKB secondhand, so it was already run-in.
Or is that fortunately?
I would venture to say, neither.
Since it gets better with age, all you are missing out on is the growing appreciation of an improving board.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 19 November 2013, 19:06:28
Or maybe my typing-fu got better..
Or maybe it's just human nature for not satisfied and content with what we have...
Post by: unicomp_uc on Tue, 19 November 2013, 19:16:55
Or maybe it's just human nature for not satisfied and content with what we have...
this... (probably)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 November 2013, 19:18:39
Or maybe it's just human nature for not satisfied and content with what we have...
this... (probably)
I am happy with what I have.
Now I would like some more so I can be even happier!
Post by: unicomp_uc on Tue, 19 November 2013, 19:46:01
Or maybe it's just human nature for not satisfied and content with what we have...
this... (probably)
I am happy with what I have.
Now I would like some more so I can be even happier!
Seems you have the happy, but not the content part ;)
Post by: reziak on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:31:47
You too! So happy with the purchase.
By the way, what color did you choose? I got the dark gray/black, but I'd love to get a red Esc and white/gray keycaps with the black body eventually....
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:41:07
Post by: reziak on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:42:52
Topre red Esc (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redesc), stock ETD Nov-2013.
Yeah, I've been checking back there every day to see if they have it yet! That red Esc adds so much character to a board.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:43:30
Topre red Esc (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redesc), stock ETD Nov-2013.
Yeah, I've been checking back there every day to see if they have it yet! That red Esc adds so much character to a board.
I have yellow Esc on mine ;D
Post by: reziak on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:50:28
Topre red Esc (http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redesc), stock ETD Nov-2013.
Yeah, I've been checking back there every day to see if they have it yet! That red Esc adds so much character to a board.
I have yellow Esc on mine ;D
That would look amazing with black caps!
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 01:09:33
(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
Post by: kelske on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:12:16
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:13:05
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:33:45
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:34:23
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 03:55:03
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
Post by: kelske on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:14:17
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
I think the purple sliders are actually slightly different arent they? I thought they had a thinner piece of plastic at the rail end so that the key-stroke length isn't as affected by the dampening pad. khangarroo posted some pics at one point comparing the two.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:18:13
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
I think the purple sliders are actually slightly different arent they? I thought they had a thinner piece of plastic at the rail end so that the key-stroke length isn't as affected by the dampening pad. khangarroo posted some pics at one point comparing the two.
oh yeah i remember that. so i could actually use these and the pads instead of dental bands then.
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:18:23
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
I think the purple sliders are actually slightly different arent they? I thought they had a thinner piece of plastic at the rail end so that the key-stroke length isn't as affected by the dampening pad. khangarroo posted some pics at one point comparing the two.
Any pictures of these?
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:28:43
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
I think the purple sliders are actually slightly different arent they? I thought they had a thinner piece of plastic at the rail end so that the key-stroke length isn't as affected by the dampening pad. khangarroo posted some pics at one point comparing the two.
Any pictures of these?
Found it, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45141.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45141.0)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0)
Theres how to take it apart so just replace the black stems w the purple.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:54:44
what color did you choose?I got the all white with blank caps, it's lovely
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Wed, 20 November 2013, 04:59:31
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 05:01:14
Do all of these silencing mods just make the keyboard "Type-S Equivalent", or is there some greater advantage beyond the savings? I find the idea tempting, but after shelling out for the keyboard I actually can't imagine trying to take it apart. I'm too much of a novice, if I broke something I would be weeping in a corner. :thumb:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0)
I havent tried it but supposed to get rid of the upstroke pitch. I also dont want to mess anything up haha
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Wed, 20 November 2013, 05:19:16
Yeah I've been reading this, the other (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582) method that gets suggested later in the thread looks amazing. Makes it silent without changing the keyfeel at all.Do all of these silencing mods just make the keyboard "Type-S Equivalent", or is there some greater advantage beyond the savings? I find the idea tempting, but after shelling out for the keyboard I actually can't imagine trying to take it apart. I'm too much of a novice, if I broke something I would be weeping in a corner. :thumb:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0)
I havent tried it but supposed to get rid of the upstroke pitch. I also dont want to mess anything up haha
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 05:24:08
Yeah I've been reading this, the other (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40582) method that gets suggested later in the thread looks amazing. Makes it silent without changing the keyfeel at all.Do all of these silencing mods just make the keyboard "Type-S Equivalent", or is there some greater advantage beyond the savings? I find the idea tempting, but after shelling out for the keyboard I actually can't imagine trying to take it apart. I'm too much of a novice, if I broke something I would be weeping in a corner. :thumb:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0)
I havent tried it but supposed to get rid of the upstroke pitch. I also dont want to mess anything up haha
yeah those look nice, look like the rubber rings that come w the silent model.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 17:10:07
Anyone put the purple from Realforce in their hhkb yet?Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/xor6vr.jpg)
Thatd look amazing. but arent they 30g? anyway to use them w 45g ?
I think BunnyLake has! It's just the stem, so yea you can use it with whatever weight domes that you want...
sweet :) Thats what I thought. Just thinking it would be a cool mod.
Not that you'd ever get to see the stems - unless you removed the keycaps.
But you would know they were there ;)
Yeah I know, just like the dental bands. I want to use all purple ones even though only I would know about them haha
Hmmm the dental bands make a difference to the feel of the switch, the sliders are just aesthetic.
I think the purple sliders are actually slightly different arent they? I thought they had a thinner piece of plastic at the rail end so that the key-stroke length isn't as affected by the dampening pad. khangarroo posted some pics at one point comparing the two.
Any pictures of these?
Found it, http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45141.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45141.0)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34972.0)
Theres how to take it apart so just replace the black stems w the purple.
Curious. I'll have to remember that if I ever want to dissect my HHKB.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:20:23
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:52:07
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:53:09
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
Another convert :)
Now give yourself a couple of weeks of using only HHKB, and then try going back to another keyboard.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:53:20
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Turn switch 3 to the on position inside the back panel. :)
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:53:49
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Dip switch 3?
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:55:08
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 20 November 2013, 23:55:18
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Dip switch 3?
Yep!
Another convert :)
Now give yourself a couple of weeks of using only HHKB, and then try going back to another keyboard.
haha Oh boy :D yeah!!!
I got a topre Steel Brobot so i guess it's topre or nothing now...HHKB is going to look mighty fine with my new Brobot on it...Soon, Soon.
Good choice! Im so glad I switched. I will get a MX in the future but im glad I sold my Rosewill and got this HHKB, WAY BETTER!
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 21 November 2013, 00:09:56
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Dip switch 3?
Oh oops. I thought he was saying that I could make the top right 1x1 delete ('/~) into backspace... almost had a field day :( silly me
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 21 November 2013, 00:13:15
My first night with my HHKB Pro 2. Control took about an hour to get used to, Turned Delete into Backspace, that position got an hour to get used to. Used AutoHotKey to turn right Alt into Control. Now I can Ctrl + - and + in photoshop still with my right hand only. The Topre switched feel amazing like bouncing on baloons or trampolines or boobs lol the high pitch on top is annoying but my dental bands should be here tomorrow or the next day :) So far I love it! It is seriouslly WAY nicer to type on that my Rosewill. It feels so smooth like my fingers just bounce on over to the next letter. Love it so far! My blanks come tomorrow and I feel like I already know the layout well enough. Control where caps lock was (never used caps lock thank god thats gone), backspace down one, function at my right pinky, arrows on my num pad or to the left of return, print screen just slide middle finger up one key. ;) Awesome!
"Good feeling of oneness with cup rubber"
May I ask how you turned delete into backspace? That's the one thing I want to change about the HHKB. This would make things so much better.
Dip switch 3?
Oh oops. I thought he was saying that I could make the top right 1x1 delete ('/~) into backspace... almost had a field day :( silly me
You can! With http://www.autohotkey.com/ (http://www.autohotkey.com/) I made right Alt into Control and I made ` into backspace but then i changed it back to ` because i want to learn the hhkb layout for backspace first. :)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Thu, 21 November 2013, 00:17:41
You can! With http://www.autohotkey.com/ (http://www.autohotkey.com/) I made right Alt into Control and I made ` into backspace but then i changed it back to ` because i want to learn the hhkb layout for backspace first. :)
I actually installed this when I first got the HHKB because it was just too hard going back and forth on different boards (I kept pressing either "\|" or "`~" depending on what board I was using). The moment I get used to one, I'd make mistakes on the other, etc. However, I didn't bother with the software when it wasn't 1+1 :)) Maybe I'll actually look into how to work this thing later tonight.
If I get `~ to become backspace on the HHKB, will that mess with the other keyboards that have standard layouts? I usually have 2-3 keyboards hooked up at a time, so wouldn't want to have to press `~ in the top left corner of other keyboards to backpace :))
Post by: reziak on Thu, 21 November 2013, 00:18:37
I got a topre Steel Brobot so i guess it's topre or nothing now...HHKB is going to look mighty fine with my new Brobot on it...Soon, Soon.
This is going to look amazing!
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 01:18:42
I got a topre Steel Brobot so i guess it's topre or nothing now...HHKB is going to look mighty fine with my new Brobot on it...Soon, Soon.
This is going to look amazing!
I would have bought one too if i wasnt so broke D:
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 21 November 2013, 01:31:08
You can! With http://www.autohotkey.com/ (http://www.autohotkey.com/) I made right Alt into Control and I made ` into backspace but then i changed it back to ` because i want to learn the hhkb layout for backspace first. :)
I actually installed this when I first got the HHKB because it was just too hard going back and forth on different boards (I kept pressing either "\|" or "`~" depending on what board I was using). The moment I get used to one, I'd make mistakes on the other, etc. However, I didn't bother with the software when it wasn't 1+1 :)) Maybe I'll actually look into how to work this thing later tonight.
If I get `~ to become backspace on the HHKB, will that mess with the other keyboards that have standard layouts? I usually have 2-3 keyboards hooked up at a time, so wouldn't want to have to press `~ in the top left corner of other keyboards to backpace :))
Yeah it only took me about 10 minutes to learn the basics. You can load the help file and the keyboard names file for reference.
You make an .ahk file in the autohotkey text editor. You type in commands. I am using:
#InstallKeybdHook
RAlt::Ctrl
You would want to enter
`::Backspace
(If thats what the official names are, i cant remember but there is a list. )
Then save it. Then you just run the file wherever you saved it.
You can right click, pause script. if it does affect your other boards. BUT you can use both the normal key and the key you assigned.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 21 November 2013, 05:49:51
I should also add that if the caps lock thing becomes too much of an issue, I would gladly quit my job rather than stop using the keyboard. That's how much I want to have its babies.
Incidentally - I'm sure you guys have seen this? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0
I am in no way qualified to do this mod but it looks amazing.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 06:37:58
I'm still loving my hhkb after a few days, feels so right. Having to fumble with the dip switches and everything is part of the charm. I've been thinking of throwing the switch to get the fn key into the meta position, but I think that switches something else around that I don't want. Unfortunately I do have to move in and out of caps lock a lot for my job, so getting used to the fn key + ctrl for caps is a must. Flipping it into light mode restores the caps lock, but at the expense of the left control? Maybe I should just bite the bullet and do all custom key mappings or something, dunno.
I should also add that if the caps lock thing becomes too much of an issue, I would gladly quit my job rather than stop using the keyboard. That's how much I want to have its babies.
Incidentally - I'm sure you guys have seen this? http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0
I am in no way qualified to do this mod but it looks amazing.
Hopefully hasu will have some more controllers sometime soonish I plan on doing that to mine, and it would be amazing if someone we could get the wireless on there.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 21 November 2013, 07:56:54
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 08:06:03
I wish I had an hhkb, battery powered, that I could take standalone and would capture text on an sd card. I would just sit in the park all day and write on it. That was the first thing that struck be when I unboxed it. It's eminently portable.
Like an old school word processor!
Post by: dsc. on Thu, 21 November 2013, 09:42:29
Post by: theMANtonio on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:03:27
The sound of raindrops is so soothing.
Wait til you do a dental band mod.... :o
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:40:06
The sound of raindrops is so soothing.
Wait til you do a dental band mod.... :o
I can't wait my neon bands should be here today or tomorrow!
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 21 November 2013, 15:23:29
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 21 November 2013, 15:25:05
Please report how it turns out, how long it took, etc! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I will Forsure!
Post by: snoopy on Thu, 21 November 2013, 16:00:33
and maybe a german member here who knows how these are called in german? didn't find any of those in german ebay.
Post by: Moosecraft on Thu, 21 November 2013, 16:11:56
Post by: snoopy on Thu, 21 November 2013, 16:14:12
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 21 November 2013, 16:14:37
http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=130949159695 (http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=130949159695)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 21 November 2013, 20:57:31
I wish I had an hhkb, battery powered, that I could take standalone and would capture text on an sd card. I would just sit in the park all day and write on it. That was the first thing that struck be when I unboxed it. It's eminently portable.
You could mate one with a Raspberry Pi - that would be portable, except for some sort of power supply.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 21:37:44
I wish I had an hhkb, battery powered, that I could take standalone and would capture text on an sd card. I would just sit in the park all day and write on it. That was the first thing that struck be when I unboxed it. It's eminently portable.
You could mate one with a Raspberry Pi - that would be portable, except for some sort of power supply.
Batteries?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 21 November 2013, 22:16:39
I wish I had an hhkb, battery powered, that I could take standalone and would capture text on an sd card. I would just sit in the park all day and write on it. That was the first thing that struck be when I unboxed it. It's eminently portable.
You could mate one with a Raspberry Pi - that would be portable, except for some sort of power supply.
Batteries?
Er, well, yes, but what sort of battery would you need? I wouldn't imagine that a couple of AA batteries would suffice.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 21 November 2013, 22:18:38
I wish I had an hhkb, battery powered, that I could take standalone and would capture text on an sd card. I would just sit in the park all day and write on it. That was the first thing that struck be when I unboxed it. It's eminently portable.
You could mate one with a Raspberry Pi - that would be portable, except for some sort of power supply.
Batteries?
Er, well, yes, but what sort of battery would you need? I wouldn't imagine that a couple of AA batteries would suffice.
Something lithium ion, maybe a cell phone battery.
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:10:13
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:17:28
I actually was thinking about getting a raspberry pi! thats work great. Just need a mobile monitor and youd be set.. a tablet maybe somehow? ;o
Just wondering what is a raspberry pi used for?
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:29:44
I actually was thinking about getting a raspberry pi! thats work great. Just need a mobile monitor and youd be set.. a tablet maybe somehow? ;o
Just wondering what is a raspberry pi used for?
Its a mini computer! w linux :D
Post by: vatin on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:41:12
Post by: Emospence on Fri, 22 November 2013, 00:45:07
Just wondering what is a raspberry pi used for?
Eating
Post by: NKRO on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:29:56
My HHKB is in "Mac Mode" which should enable these functions but the system doesn't seem to be seeing them.
I am able to rebind the Eject command (F) using SharpKeys (http://www.randyrants.com/2011/12/sharpkeys_35.html) so that's acting as Play/Pause for now, but I would like to bind the others as Prev/Next Track.
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 22 November 2013, 21:38:03
Does anyone know how to rebind the Vol_Dn/Up/Mute keys on Windows?
My HHKB is in "Mac Mode" which should enable these functions but the system doesn't seem to be seeing them.
I am able to rebind the Eject command (F) using SharpKeys (http://www.randyrants.com/2011/12/sharpkeys_35.html) so that's acting as Play/Pause for now, but I would like to bind the others as Prev/Next Track.
You might be able to do it with Autohotkeys. Dont quote me. Im not very sure
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Sat, 23 November 2013, 01:10:53
Hooking to an android phone or tablet should be much easier.Right, that's what I was considering, although I've heard that some don't power the keyboard?
Post by: NKRO on Sat, 23 November 2013, 02:00:20
You might be able to do it with Autohotkeys. Dont quote me. Im not very sureThanks for the suggestion, but I think AutoHotKey works by setting up scripts (text files) for what keys you want remapped. The problem is that I don't know what the Vol_Up/Down/Mute keys are sending to the PC - it's not the standard commands.
The HHKB seems to require a lot of power compared to some keyboards - I guess because it has a USB2 hub built in?Hooking to an android phone or tablet should be much easier.Right, that's what I was considering, although I've heard that some don't power the keyboard?
Even to reliably use it with my PC, I have to connect it through a powered hub, and when I connect anything like a Flash Drive to the ports on the back of the keyboard it tells me that the device is not receiving enough power.
Post by: theMANtonio on Sat, 23 November 2013, 12:13:43
Please report how it turns out, how long it took, etc! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I love how the dental band mod came out. I opened my HHKB for the first time. 3 screws on the back, then 16 or 17 on the PCB. Took me about 1-1.5 hours. I put the board back together. Then took it apart again cuz I originally didn't put bands on the left Shift and Enter key (the stabilized keys). Then put it back together. I think the Enter key has the most shortened travel with the band mod.
Post by: theMANtonio on Sat, 23 November 2013, 12:14:20
Already thought about buying some cheap in china. But they have a lot of different sizes (thickness). Not sure which to buy
These are the bands that I used: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AGKNQBY
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sat, 23 November 2013, 13:05:56
Usually when supported handheld devices (smartphones and what not) when enabling USB OTG (On The Go). They would power whatever the subsequent USB device(s) that it is plugged into. Also enabling OTG drains a fair amount of power on the said device.Hooking to an android phone or tablet should be much easier.Right, that's what I was considering, although I've heard that some don't power the keyboard?
There are also USB Y cables that one can get to prevent their handhelds from going flat, most of them are available from sites like Ebay for instance.
You might be able to do it with Autohotkeys. Dont quote me. Im not very sureThanks for the suggestion, but I think AutoHotKey works by setting up scripts (text files) for what keys you want remapped. The problem is that I don't know what the Vol_Up/Down/Mute keys are sending to the PC - it's not the standard commands.
The HHKB seems to require a lot of power compared to some keyboards - I guess because it has a USB2 hub built in?Hooking to an android phone or tablet should be much easier.Right, that's what I was considering, although I've heard that some don't power the keyboard?
Even to reliably use it with my PC, I have to connect it through a powered hub, and when I connect anything like a Flash Drive to the ports on the back of the keyboard it tells me that the device is not receiving enough power.
The following links are in Japanese.
According to PFU's official site (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html), the power offered by USB hubs are 100mA. I would guess the same thing applies regardless if you have the Pro2 or the Pro2 Type-S or if you have the Lite2 variant. PFU has also mentioned some of the limitations with the USB hub onboard the HHKB series (that have USB hubs): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html)
I would say from my personal point of view is that it is not the keyboard itself that requires lots of power but possibly because of the limitations in the controller allows maximum drawing of 200mA total apart from the keyboard itself. Which again is 100mA max per port and there's only two sockets.
As for the volume up, volume down, eject, mute keys. On linux here I can see that with HHKB under windows mode it sends out the same key codes: 38, 39, 40, 41. These are a, s d, f respectively. Even with Fn key pressed they send out the exact same key codes. I recalled on PFU's official page that those media keys only work on Mac. So I unplugged my HHKB and flipped the first DIP to on (it was previously off, factory default as with every other DIP switches). When I plugged my HHKB back in and ran the same tool again. This time holding down the Fn key produced different key codes: 122, 123, 121, 198. These were again a, s, d, f but with the Fn key held down and with the first DIP switch turned on.
I think from memory the "Power" key (which is labelled as such on the Esc key but on the front) can also only be enabled when HHKB is set to Mac mode. The normal Esc key sends out key code 9, however when in Mac mode and Fn key is held down, the key code: 124 is displayed.
This basically tells me two things:
- Media keys and power key only works when HHKB is in Mac mode.
- Media keys and power key also requires Fn key to be depressed. Though I am sure most of you would be aware of that already.
As a forewarning that when running HHKB in Mac mode, the key codes for other keys maybe different from when HHKB was set to Windows mode. I think PFU's support page on HHKB describes some of the changes.
Post by: MJ45 on Sat, 23 November 2013, 13:13:38
The USB hub on the HHKB only puts out 100ma I have found that very few devices work with that low power output. The only thing I have is a Corsair flash drive that will work but self powered like a DSLR work fine.You might be able to do it with Autohotkeys. Dont quote me. Im not very sureThanks for the suggestion, but I think AutoHotKey works by setting up scripts (text files) for what keys you want remapped. The problem is that I don't know what the Vol_Up/Down/Mute keys are sending to the PC - it's not the standard commands.
The HHKB seems to require a lot of power compared to some keyboards - I guess because it has a USB2 hub built in?Hooking to an android phone or tablet should be much easier.Right, that's what I was considering, although I've heard that some don't power the keyboard?
Even to reliably use it with my PC, I have to connect it through a powered hub, and when I connect anything like a Flash Drive to the ports on the back of the keyboard it tells me that the device is not receiving enough power.
Post by: reziak on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:04:26
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:17:35
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:20:03
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....You'll love it. Worth every penny.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:29:03
Does anyone know how long it takes for the cup rubber to harden to a point where it would be too heavy or too hard for the average person? Or just when it would start hardening to a point where you would feel it?
Only this thread seems relevant: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=27474.0
Whether or not would one feel it I guess heavily depends from person to person.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 23 November 2013, 16:31:12
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Post by: terran5992 on Sat, 23 November 2013, 21:04:20
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!Show Image(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Looks amazing. Could you do a video of how that sounds like?
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 23 November 2013, 21:58:37
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!Show Image(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Looks amazing. Could you do a video of how that sounds like?
Thank You! Yes I made one for you! the ten key is browns w/ red o-rings. The HHKB is stock 45g w 3/16" medium dental bands.
Ive got photos here too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/25a0zd0.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2005qix.jpg)
Post by: NKRO on Sat, 23 November 2013, 22:14:47
According to PFU's official site (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html), the power offered by USB hubs are 100mA. I would guess the same thing applies regardless if you have the Pro2 or the Pro2 Type-S or if you have the Lite2 variant. PFU has also mentioned some of the limitations with the USB hub onboard the HHKB series (that have USB hubs): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html)Thanks for the links, it's good to have actual numbers from the manufacturer. I've had difficulty connecting my keyboard to some older MacBooks for example, and as soon as it's connected to a powered hub, they see the keyboard every time.
I would say from my personal point of view is that it is not the keyboard itself that requires lots of power but possibly because of the limitations in the controller allows maximum drawing of 200mA total apart from the keyboard itself. Which again is 100mA max per port and there's only two sockets.
I had the same problem with my desktop PC - everything was running off a bus-powered extension/hub, and I had to connect a power brick to it for the keyboard to work reliably. (with nothing plugged into the keyboard's ports)
So I would not be surprised if mobile devices have trouble with this keyboard.
With such low power limits on the ports, I've had difficulty finding much that can actually use them. The only thing I have which has worked, has been an SD card reader.
As for the volume up, volume down, eject, mute keys. On linux here I can see that with HHKB under windows mode it sends out the same key codes: 38, 39, 40, 41. These are a, s d, f respectively. Even with Fn key pressed they send out the exact same key codes. I recalled on PFU's official page that those media keys only work on Mac. So I unplugged my HHKB and flipped the first DIP to on (it was previously off, factory default as with every other DIP switches). When I plugged my HHKB back in and ran the same tool again. This time holding down the Fn key produced different key codes: 122, 123, 121, 198. These were again a, s, d, f but with the Fn key held down and with the first DIP switch turned on.I wish I knew how those translated to Windows keycodes. I tried running AutoHotKey and it reports Fn+F as "F20" which makes sense if you look at an old Apple keyboard which had F1-F16 and then Vol_Dn/Up/Mute/Eject.
Fn+A/S/D are not reporting anything to AHK though. I had hoped it would be F17/18/19.
I tried remapping F17/18/19 via Sharp Keys anyway (0x0068/69/6A) but they don't seem to work.
It's a Pro 2 Type-S that I have, but that shouldn't make a difference.
This basically tells me two things:Yes, I do run the keyboard in Mac Mode. I forget the specific reason why, I think the right meta key was not functioning as a Windows key?I ran the command "xev" under linux to get the key codes. I guess if one were to be in windows they still need to in the very least enable HHKB in Mac mode to be able to make use of the extra keys that were once reserved for Macs. Actually there is a mentioning on the PFU site: http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkb_support/faq_pro.html
- Media keys and power key only works when HHKB is in Mac mode.
- Media keys and power key also requires Fn key to be depressed. Though I am sure most of you would be aware of that already.
The problem is that none of the utilities I have tried using to remap the keys detect the Vol_Dn/Up/Mute as a keypress. (Fn+A/S/D)
I've found that the Eject (Fn+F) works, and so does */-+ (Fn+j/m/h/n) so in the meantime, I have j/m for "Next/Prev" and h/n for "Media" (launches the player) and "Stop".
I'd really like to get Fn+A/S/D working though.
Post by: Awful on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:19:38
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!Show Image(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Looks amazing. Could you do a video of how that sounds like?
Thank You! Yes I made one for you! the ten key is browns w/ red o-rings. The HHKB is stock 45g w 3/16" medium dental bands.
Ive got photos here too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0)Show Image(http://i41.tinypic.com/25a0zd0.jpg)Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/2005qix.jpg)
Yay someone else covered in tattoos (on their fingers) <3
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 01:20:42
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!Show Image(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Looks amazing. Could you do a video of how that sounds like?
Thank You! Yes I made one for you! the ten key is browns w/ red o-rings. The HHKB is stock 45g w 3/16" medium dental bands.
Ive got photos here too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0)Show Image(http://i41.tinypic.com/25a0zd0.jpg)Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/2005qix.jpg)
Yay someone else covered in tattoos (on their fingers) <3
:] Awesome Dude!!!!! :p
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 04:50:16
I am not particularly sure with the case on older Macbooks, but given the fact that the modern keyboards are vastly USB based, one should try to avoid having too many USB dangling on some unpowered hub. The standard USB port specification allows a maximum drawing of 0.9A and unpowered hubs generally do not regulate nor would most likely fairly split the amount of power per USB devices connected to that hub. Things like 2.5" external hard drives and high powered wireless USB dongles often have those dual USB heads on one end as to ensure that they would be getting more "priority" over other USB devices when plugged into some unpowered hub.According to PFU's official site (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html), the power offered by USB hubs are 100mA. I would guess the same thing applies regardless if you have the Pro2 or the Pro2 Type-S or if you have the Lite2 variant. PFU has also mentioned some of the limitations with the USB hub onboard the HHKB series (that have USB hubs): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/notice.html)Thanks for the links, it's good to have actual numbers from the manufacturer. I've had difficulty connecting my keyboard to some older MacBooks for example, and as soon as it's connected to a powered hub, they see the keyboard every time.
I would say from my personal point of view is that it is not the keyboard itself that requires lots of power but possibly because of the limitations in the controller allows maximum drawing of 200mA total apart from the keyboard itself. Which again is 100mA max per port and there's only two sockets.
I had the same problem with my desktop PC - everything was running off a bus-powered extension/hub, and I had to connect a power brick to it for the keyboard to work reliably. (with nothing plugged into the keyboard's ports)
So I would not be surprised if mobile devices have trouble with this keyboard.
With such low power limits on the ports, I've had difficulty finding much that can actually use them. The only thing I have which has worked, has been an SD card reader.
Whenever I decide to expand the amount of USB ports than my machines can afford to have, I would basically go through the route of getting powered USB hubs. That way there could almost be no chance of some USB starved device is getting the short end of the stick. The option is by no means any cheaper and less cables but to me it prevents the need to worry about power shortages.
On my linux machine my HHKB Pro JP Type-S (note this is the one with JIS layout meaning extra keys but no extra USB ports) lsusb -vv reports the keyboard to only draw a maximum current of only 100mA. I sort of say that would be typical of what normally a keyboard would be:
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Bus 002 Device 008: ID 04fe:000d PFU, Ltd
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bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1 PFU Limited
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(Bus Powered)
Yeah I read how a few other people were reporting the media keys on Macs as numbers beyond F12.As for the volume up, volume down, eject, mute keys. On linux here I can see that with HHKB under windows mode it sends out the same key codes: 38, 39, 40, 41. These are a, s d, f respectively. Even with Fn key pressed they send out the exact same key codes. I recalled on PFU's official page that those media keys only work on Mac. So I unplugged my HHKB and flipped the first DIP to on (it was previously off, factory default as with every other DIP switches). When I plugged my HHKB back in and ran the same tool again. This time holding down the Fn key produced different key codes: 122, 123, 121, 198. These were again a, s, d, f but with the Fn key held down and with the first DIP switch turned on.I wish I knew how those translated to Windows keycodes. I tried running AutoHotKey and it reports Fn+F as "F20" which makes sense if you look at an old Apple keyboard which had F1-F16 and then Vol_Dn/Up/Mute/Eject.
Fn+A/S/D are not reporting anything to AHK though. I had hoped it would be F17/18/19.
I tried remapping F17/18/19 via Sharp Keys anyway (0x0068/69/6A) but they don't seem to work.
It's a Pro 2 Type-S that I have, but that shouldn't make a difference.
Though it is strange how autohotkeys can only see one key out of the four and how sharpkeys I guess doesn't tell you the keycodes for the other three or rather the other three simply won't emit key codes.
I suppose the only best way to check is to make sure that DIP switch 1 is the only switch that is left on and the other four or so DIP switches are set off. If you have already done that then it sort of stumps me, especially if the same DIP settings the media keys work fine on a Mac but not in windows.
More or less I stick by with what I said above. If say Mac or linux can detect those keys fine (especially linux because I know they allow verbosity) then maybe something else within windows is reserving those keycodes or ignoring it for some reason. It certainly tells me that if Mac/linux works fine with the reporting that the keyboard controller is doing its job in telling the computer the key codes but somewhere within the computer, the computer refuses to accept those signals.This basically tells me two things:Yes, I do run the keyboard in Mac Mode. I forget the specific reason why, I think the right meta key was not functioning as a Windows key?I ran the command "xev" under linux to get the key codes. I guess if one were to be in windows they still need to in the very least enable HHKB in Mac mode to be able to make use of the extra keys that were once reserved for Macs. Actually there is a mentioning on the PFU site: http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkb_support/faq_pro.html (http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkb_support/faq_pro.html)
- Media keys and power key only works when HHKB is in Mac mode.
- Media keys and power key also requires Fn key to be depressed. Though I am sure most of you would be aware of that already.
The problem is that none of the utilities I have tried using to remap the keys detect the Vol_Dn/Up/Mute as a keypress. (Fn+A/S/D)
I've found that the Eject (Fn+F) works, and so does */-+ (Fn+j/m/h/n) so in the meantime, I have j/m for "Next/Prev" and h/n for "Media" (launches the player) and "Stop".
I'd really like to get Fn+A/S/D working though.
The only other way I suppose is to use TMK firmware (and Teensy/TMK board would be required) by Hasu and remap the key code to something else so that hopefully windows and/or Mac should be comfortable with. It'll be a long shot but I guess that might be an option if nothing else is available.
Thank You! Yes I made one for you! the ten key is browns w/ red o-rings. The HHKB is stock 45g w 3/16" medium dental bands.
Ive got photos here too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0)Show Image(http://i41.tinypic.com/25a0zd0.jpg)
Just look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Post by: terran5992 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 04:52:49
I...I just ordered my HHKB. Oh my god, I can't believe it. BRB when my wallet recovers....
Congrats!!
This will be you in a few short weeks:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FKYzxeP.png)
:))
So much truth in this, lol. Going to finish my Poker and then sell off some of my other boards. They won't be seeing a whole lot of use now....
Hey you're from MN nice! Cool purple brobot icon! Yeah the HHKB and a ten key pad is all ya need. I do want to build a poker 2 though.
Did the silence mod!Show Image(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lvfe6s.jpg)
Looks amazing. Could you do a video of how that sounds like?
Thank You! Yes I made one for you! the ten key is browns w/ red o-rings. The HHKB is stock 45g w 3/16" medium dental bands.
Ive got photos here too: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51403.0)Show Image(http://i41.tinypic.com/25a0zd0.jpg)Show Image(http://i42.tinypic.com/2005qix.jpg)
Yay someone else covered in tattoos (on their fingers) <3
:] Awesome Dude!!!!! :p
Cool mod dude. I may plan on doing that too. However is it worth the trouble to mod?
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 24 November 2013, 07:23:07
Post by: MJ45 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 07:27:15
To the dude that also have a external Numpad beside his HHKB, does the HHKB USB port power the Numpad? That would be a real good use of the HHKB USB port as the Numpad would compliment it!I don't have a numpad but that be nice if it works off the HHKB hub. You would also have cursor control too!!
Post by: Wildcard on Sun, 24 November 2013, 08:26:59
To the dude that also have a external Numpad beside his HHKB, does the HHKB USB port power the Numpad? That would be a real good use of the HHKB USB port as the Numpad would compliment it!
My G80-3700 was powered by the USB hub. Worked fine when I was using it.
Post by: Emospence on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:25:22
Post by: unicomp_uc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:55:56
Just ordered 2 87UW 55gs. Whee
Baller!
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:03:41
Quote from: tuxsavvy
Just look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Quote from: terran5992
Cool mod dude. I may plan on doing that too. However is it worth the trouble to mod?
Only if you or anyone you type around are bothered by the upstroke pitch, i think it sounds better without that pitch.
To the dude that also have a external Numpad beside his HHKB, does the HHKB USB port power the Numpad? That would be a real good use of the HHKB USB port as the Numpad would compliment it!
Yes it does power the leopold good, but I like the clean look so I have both cords individually going to my computer case. :thumb:
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:41:00
I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm a bit reluctant due to the fact that I strongly prefer the smoothness and lightness of MX reds over any of the other Cherries (including browns).
I know that I won't know whether I'll like it or not until I try it myself, but since I can't get my hands on a hhkb without buying one outright, I just have to ask, are there any happy HHKB Pro 2 owners who also happen to like MX reds?
Usually, I'm not that indecisive about purchases, but the HHKB is just so damn expensive to buy without trying it out first...
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:00:29
I have a question for HHKB Pro 2 owners (in particular, those who are touch typists).
I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm a bit reluctant due to the fact that I strongly prefer the smoothness and lightness of MX reds over any of the other Cherries (including browns).
I know that I won't know whether I'll like it or not until I try it myself, but since I can't get my hands on a hhkb without buying one outright, I just have to ask, are there any happy HHKB Pro 2 owners who also happen to like MX reds?
Usually, I'm not that indecisive about purchases, but the HHKB is just so damn expensive to buy without trying it out first...
I do not use reds. However, before switching to the HHKB Pro 2, I used an IBM Model M for years, and more recently I used an IBM SSK. Buckling springs are obviously very different from 45-g Topres. I like both, but for now I am content to stay with the HHKB Pro 2. The point is, you might like the HHKB Pro 2 even if it is very different from anything you have used before. In my own case, I prefer the feel of the IBM keyboards, but the combination of style, form factor, sound and feel of the HHKB Pro 2 combine in a synergistic way to edge out the IBM, at least for now.
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:05:26
Post by: Sniping on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:06:27
Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:41:15
I have a question for HHKB Pro 2 owners (in particular, those who are touch typists).
I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm a bit reluctant due to the fact that I strongly prefer the smoothness and lightness of MX reds over any of the other Cherries (including browns).
I know that I won't know whether I'll like it or not until I try it myself, but since I can't get my hands on a hhkb without buying one outright, I just have to ask, are there any happy HHKB Pro 2 owners who also happen to like MX reds?
Usually, I'm not that indecisive about purchases, but the HHKB is just so damn expensive to buy without trying it out first...
I tried reds and blacks (and now greens), and found that I prefer blacks (and greens) over reds.
I also have HHKB, and find it somewhere between reds and blacks, probably closer to the reds than the blacks.
But the feel is quite different.
If you do get one and find that you do not like it, you can always sell it here for nearly what you paid for it - once you reach 60 valuable and informative posts ;)
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:43:32
I have a question for HHKB Pro 2 owners (in particular, those who are touch typists).
I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm a bit reluctant due to the fact that I strongly prefer the smoothness and lightness of MX reds over any of the other Cherries (including browns).
I know that I won't know whether I'll like it or not until I try it myself, but since I can't get my hands on a hhkb without buying one outright, I just have to ask, are there any happy HHKB Pro 2 owners who also happen to like MX reds?
Usually, I'm not that indecisive about purchases, but the HHKB is just so damn expensive to buy without trying it out first...
I tried reds and blacks (and now greens), and found that I prefer blacks (and greens) over reds.
I also have HHKB, and find it somewhere between reds and blacks, probably closer to the reds than the blacks.
But the feel is quite different.
If you do get one and find that you do not like it, you can always sell it here for nearly what you paid for it - once you reach 60 valuable and informative posts ;)
Yeah Id say Black or Red is closest sound wise but feel wise brown or red. But the feel and sound is WAY different, in a better way. You just have to experience it. No high pitch only low.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:54:11
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.
Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 16:26:28
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Im not sure the shelf life and yes I have 3 metal bars inside. Each Shift key and the Spacebar. Now Im curious the shelf life. Yeah you only live once so buy a HHKB :D
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 16:33:44
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Im not sure the shelf life and yes I have 3 metal bars inside. Each Shift key and the Spacebar. Now Im curious the shelf life. Yeah you only live once so buy a HHKB :D
I'd say the chances are with Mechlube is that they may last a long time. Considering how they are inside a syringe which is mostly air tight but then again I could be really wrong about the shelf life of the Mechlube2. I actually thought that there would be some information printed somewhere on the Mechlube syringe itself to tell you the various information you need to know about it I suppose.
As for HHKB, lol as the topic says. Buy one and help spread the love around the world. :))
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 16:36:18
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Im not sure the shelf life and yes I have 3 metal bars inside. Each Shift key and the Spacebar. Now Im curious the shelf life. Yeah you only live once so buy a HHKB :D
I'd say the chances are with Mechlube is that they may last a long time. Considering how they are inside a syringe which is mostly air tight but then again I could be really wrong about the shelf life of the Mechlube2. I actually thought that there would be some information printed somewhere on the Mechlube syringe itself to tell you the various information you need to know about it I suppose.
As for HHKB, lol as the topic says. Buy one and help spread the love around the world. :))
Yeah I looked and all it says is copyright :rolleyes: But the syringe is airtight forsure. I have to push hard to get any out.
Yep the sound and feel is just too amazing for words!
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 17:17:22
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Im not sure the shelf life and yes I have 3 metal bars inside. Each Shift key and the Spacebar. Now Im curious the shelf life. Yeah you only live once so buy a HHKB :D
I'd say the chances are with Mechlube is that they may last a long time. Considering how they are inside a syringe which is mostly air tight but then again I could be really wrong about the shelf life of the Mechlube2. I actually thought that there would be some information printed somewhere on the Mechlube syringe itself to tell you the various information you need to know about it I suppose.
As for HHKB, lol as the topic says. Buy one and help spread the love around the world. :))
Yeah I looked and all it says is copyright ::) But the syringe is airtight forsure. I have to push hard to get any out.
Yep the sound and feel is just too amazing for words!
Bummer, just copyright? in small letters? that's kinda like KFC's "11 secret herbs and spices". :)) No ingredients, no shelf life information, just "use" it.
Hate to sort of say this but at least Ro-59 is a bit more open about their products, even though yes it is still more or less closely guarded receipe ??? for their lube but at least they do say about the shelf life of the said product.
Anyway I can say that chances are it is definitely airtight, which should be able to theoretically prolong the shelf life if maybe stored in some cool place when not in use (and obviously the lid is on). Thanks for checking it up nonetheless! :thumb:
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 17:28:29
Quote from: tuxsavvyJust look at those colourful dental bands on those sliders! it looks remarkably different from the typical monochrome sort of scheme. Too bad one is not able to see it otherwise because it is all on the insides. :))
I also checked your forum link and I noticed how you use EK Mechlube2. That would be the first time that I have ever seen EK Mechlube ever used on HHKB. Prior to my HHKB purchase I was contemplating on whether or not should I buy EK Mechlube, even if I were, did I need to buy EK Mechlube or EK Mechlube2 or both for my HHKB? The question sort of stumped me for awhile. Now having got my keyboard I am unsure if EK Mechlube is needed at all seeing as how my spacebar is one of those small (puny as others would like to describe it) ones.
Yeah Its too bad no one can see the insides :) Bro Bots recommended a mixture of Krytox 205 grease and 103GPL Krytox oil for the slider grooves. But this is before I talked to him, Elite Keyboards recommended the Mechlube2 for Realforce and HHKB Sliders, Stabilizers, etc and Mechlube1 for squeeky spacebars. So I just used the Mechlube 2 on my stabilizers and ill probably pick up Brobots method for my slider grooves. But I have to find where to buy it, just saw http://www.originativeco.com (http://www.originativeco.com) released a new mixed lube. Not sure the difference in this Krytox formula though.
Thanks for that! I guess one learns something new every day.
There were that many lubes going around for various switches and what not that I was getting confused it all, there were plenty of people from what I read were mixing krytox with this or that, then there's people who uses Ro-59 and then others mix both. That is what really confused me before I got my hands on my HHKB. It just seems like there's way too many formulas out there.
Curiously how long is the shelf life of that Mechlube2? I was intending to purchase some Ro-59 but considering the Ro-59 has a shelf life of about 1 1/2 years I am reluctant to purchase and store it until the day I will need to use some. If the Mechlube2 can last longer than that then I may lean towards purchasing Mechlube2 instead.
As for squeaky stabilisers I don't think that will happen at all in my case. I noticed there was a metal rod in your HHKB but you don't have the JP version. I haven't pulled my JP version apart as yet but with my small spacebar I somewhat doubt there will be a metal rod within it. So it'll rule out the need for me to buy Mechlube and just see how good the Mechlube2 is.Ever since i read the thread about topre cup rubber hardening i'm getting worried about my hhkb i'm going to order.
There are stories for both sides of the discussion. CC says that his old Topre keyboards aren't any stiffer than his new ones.
I too initially was hesitant after reading about rubber domes stiffening on HHKB and then I went ahead with the purchase. After purchase I read again about rubber domes stiffening and there were moments that I thought ultimately I may regret my purchase. The story of purchasing an expensive keyboard can be daunting.
Though ultimately I have settled on the fact that nothing lasts forever. Regardless if the rubber domes do harden up eventually or not, one thing that is notable is that the end owners themselves have already tasted a Topre board. The feeling is satisfying when typing away on Topre that I personally find hard to let go of.
I sort of rambled away on another thread about professional products are not indicative that they last forever, but rather they are targeted for professionals/enthusiasts of professional products. I recall constantly about my teacher once said to me that "it" was built by humans for humans. "It" could imply virtually anything man made, even in the very case of keyboards we have here. Even though one can go through all the ramifications of implying that keyboards are rather built by robots, the robots were built by humans initially. Just as technology can be as fragile as we are after all things has been debated. It is best to still embrace no matter what it maybe.
Belfong also made a mentioning that "you only live once" which is also very true. Rather than worrying over trivial stuff which can virtually be fixed with lube if and when that time comes, you may as well try whatever you can get your hands on.
Im not sure the shelf life and yes I have 3 metal bars inside. Each Shift key and the Spacebar. Now Im curious the shelf life. Yeah you only live once so buy a HHKB :D
I'd say the chances are with Mechlube is that they may last a long time. Considering how they are inside a syringe which is mostly air tight but then again I could be really wrong about the shelf life of the Mechlube2. I actually thought that there would be some information printed somewhere on the Mechlube syringe itself to tell you the various information you need to know about it I suppose.
As for HHKB, lol as the topic says. Buy one and help spread the love around the world. :))
Yeah I looked and all it says is copyright ::) But the syringe is airtight forsure. I have to push hard to get any out.
Yep the sound and feel is just too amazing for words!
Bummer, just copyright? in small letters? that's kinda like KFC's "11 secret herbs and spices". :)) No ingredients, no shelf life information, just "use" it.
Hate to sort of say this but at least Ro-59 is a bit more open about their products, even though yes it is still more or less closely guarded receipe ??? for their lube but at least they do say about the shelf life of the said product.
Anyway I can say that chances are it is definitely airtight, which should be able to theoretically prolong the shelf life if maybe stored in some cool place when not in use (and obviously the lid is on). Thanks for checking it up nonetheless! :thumb:
You're Welcome! I wonder how long it lasts, guess ill find out :) Yes only small print copyright haha
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 24 November 2013, 17:57:12
My G80-3700 was powered by the USB hub. Worked fine when I was using it.
Bingo! Then it is the perfect companion to the HHKB. Couple with a really short cable and it's a match made in heaven :)
Post by: Cow on Sun, 24 November 2013, 19:39:44
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 19:45:37
How do the dental band mods compare to the type S, I'm tempted to just go for it. Are the keystrokes different on the S like the bands? Does it actually sound like raindrops, I'm coming from blue switches on a CM Storm
The S model has slightly different plungers and uses foam discs. The dental band mod reduces travel a slight touch. I think its worth it, my main concern was the type S didnt have a black model. But if you want the exact same key travel the type s is the way to go. I dont think it would be worth the money though. It does sound like rain drops, if I type real slow it is amazing. If I type fast like this it sounds like heavy downpour on a cottage cabin. Blues are way different though because you can actually feel the tactile bump inside. So it would be a way different experience.
Post by: eth0s on Sun, 24 November 2013, 19:45:43
I have a question for HHKB Pro 2 owners (in particular, those who are touch typists).
I'm thinking about getting one, but I'm a bit reluctant due to the fact that I strongly prefer the smoothness and lightness of MX reds over any of the other Cherries (including browns).
I know that I won't know whether I'll like it or not until I try it myself, but since I can't get my hands on a hhkb without buying one outright, I just have to ask, are there any happy HHKB Pro 2 owners who also happen to like MX reds?
Usually, I'm not that indecisive about purchases, but the HHKB is just so damn expensive to buy without trying it out first...
I love Topre switches, and I prefer Topre to any MX switch. But if I had to choose among MX switches, my favorite would be MX red. While MX reds do not feel like Topre, IMO, MX reds feel very similar to Topre 30g switches, which can be found on the silent variable (ergonomic) Realforce keyboards. Anyway, what I can tell you is that if you like MX reds, I think you will love Topre. They are similar, but Topre is better.
My G80-3700 was powered by the USB hub. Worked fine when I was using it.
Bingo! Then it is the perfect companion to the HHKB. Couple with a really short cable and it's a match made in heaven :)
Best numpad companion to HHKB Pro 2 is the Realforce 23U (if you can find one). The HHKB's USB port powers it perfectly, and the 23U comes with a short USB cord natively. 23U's USB connector cord is approx. 2.5 feet long.
Post by: ComradeSniper on Sun, 24 November 2013, 20:45:54
Best numpad companion to HHKB Pro 2 is the Realforce 23U (if you can find one). The HHKB's USB port powers it perfectly, and the 23U comes with a short USB cord natively. 23U's USB connector cord is approx. 2.5 feet long.
Just tried this and I can confirm that it works. Funny how it can power my 23u just fine but Windows says that it doesn't have enough power to run my 16GB flash drive.
Post by: theMANtonio on Sun, 24 November 2013, 23:46:52
Best numpad companion to HHKB Pro 2 is the Realforce 23U (if you can find one). The HHKB's USB port powers it perfectly, and the 23U comes with a short USB cord natively. 23U's USB connector cord is approx. 2.5 feet long.
Just tried this and I can confirm that it works. Funny how it can power my 23u just fine but Windows says that it doesn't have enough power to run my 16GB flash drive.
Still hoping a new model is released.. Patiently waiting. In the meantime, I'll have to pick up a Cherry switch number pad.
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 23:47:51
Best numpad companion to HHKB Pro 2 is the Realforce 23U (if you can find one). The HHKB's USB port powers it perfectly, and the 23U comes with a short USB cord natively. 23U's USB connector cord is approx. 2.5 feet long.
Just tried this and I can confirm that it works. Funny how it can power my 23u just fine but Windows says that it doesn't have enough power to run my 16GB flash drive.
I love my Leopold w Browns.
Still hoping a new model is released.. Patiently waiting. In the meantime, I'll have to pick up a Cherry switch number pad.
Post by: theMANtonio on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:41:27
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:46:02
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:52:24
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
Pretty expensive for just the number pad
Post by: Wildcard on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:54:01
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)I love my Leopold w Browns.I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
also blues :thumb:
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 25 November 2013, 00:54:11
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
Pretty expensive for just the number pad
lol my hhkb was $260 so $45 is dirt cheap. You know the Topre number pad is $160 23u
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)I love my Leopold w Browns.I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
also blues :thumb:
yea i was tempted! theyre just too loud for my wife :)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 25 November 2013, 01:18:16
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
Pretty expensive for just the number pad
lol.. you have no idea.
Post by: reziak on Tue, 03 December 2013, 05:03:13
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
I just ordered the same numpad this weekend! Looking forward to it. Excited to try the numpad on the left side of my 60% boards! Also have an ergodox in the works and plan to keep a numpad between the two boards. :D
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 03 December 2013, 07:15:25
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
I just ordered the same numpad this weekend! Looking forward to it. Excited to try the numpad on the left side of my 60% boards! Also have an ergodox in the works and plan to keep a numpad between the two boards. :D
Awesome, I think you'll enjoy it! All it needs is a removable USB port :p
Post by: Awful on Tue, 03 December 2013, 08:07:32
(man, I really hope I don't hate topre haha)
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 03 December 2013, 10:06:21
Tracking says it's on the FedEx truck for delivery today.. must contain myself.
(man, I really hope I don't hate topre haha)
Sweet dude!!! Man I love mine so much you have no idea.. I sold my MX board right away. Now I'm debating getting a poker 2 though just because I'm hooked on boards now haha but yea mine I hope you like it! After the dental band mod it sounds amazing. I need to get some good lube though and lube my sliders :)
Post by: reziak on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:53:30
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
I just ordered the same numpad this weekend! Looking forward to it. Excited to try the numpad on the left side of my 60% boards! Also have an ergodox in the works and plan to keep a numpad between the two boards. :D
Awesome, I think you'll enjoy it! All it needs is a removable USB port :p
Plus, I need something to show off my one Clack, Bingecap, and (hopefully) the multitude of Brobot V2's I will be obtaining in the near future.
Post by: phatdood9 on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:05:07
Tracking says it's on the FedEx truck for delivery today.. must contain myself.
(man, I really hope I don't hate topre haha)
Mine is on the fedex truck too!
EK shipped some pink blanks today :) I was scared that they would sell out! I hope i like topre :D
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:58:03
I love my Leopold w Browns.
I'd consider a Leopold w/ Browns too. Where'd you get yours if you don't mind me asking.
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeypads)
:thumb:
I just ordered the same numpad this weekend! Looking forward to it. Excited to try the numpad on the left side of my 60% boards! Also have an ergodox in the works and plan to keep a numpad between the two boards. :D
Awesome, I think you'll enjoy it! All it needs is a removable USB port :p
Plus, I need something to show off my one Clack, Bingecap, and (hopefully) the multitude of Brobot V2's I will be obtaining in the near future.
Yeah same here haha I love it because I have somewhere to put my MX caps besides a tester ;p my binge and ccs !
Tracking says it's on the FedEx truck for delivery today.. must contain myself.
(man, I really hope I don't hate topre haha)
Mine is on the fedex truck too!
EK shipped some pink blanks today :) I was scared that they would sell out! I hope i like topre :D
im waiting for my blank oranges from fedex from EK too! They always send in great packaging!
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 06 December 2013, 04:16:55
Post by: neunelfer on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:55:31
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 06 December 2013, 08:25:34
I was a click away from buying one a couple months ago and now I think I want to do it..any white blank owners want to share your best pics to convince me?
Just have a browse through this thread
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.0
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 06 December 2013, 08:40:38
Dear HHKB, I hate your stinking guts, you make me vomit, you're the scum between my toes.-- Love, Akimbro
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:10:24
I hate my HHKB Type-S. It's ruined me. Everytime I get a new keyboard I can't enjoy it because I keep coming back to the HHKB.
Dear HHKB, I hate your stinking guts, you make me vomit, you're the scum between my toes.-- Love, Akimbro
But that 55g Thorpe.
Post by: neunelfer on Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:27:33
I hate my HHKB Type-S. It's ruined me. Everytime I get a new keyboard I can't enjoy it because I keep coming back to the HHKB.
Dear HHKB, I hate your stinking guts, you make me vomit, you're the scum between my toes.-- Love, Akimbro
To be honest, that's actually one of my concerns - that I'll no longer like my Filco.
Post by: phatdood9 on Fri, 06 December 2013, 12:56:06
(http://i40.tinypic.com/be7ol2.jpg)
Post by: Awful on Fri, 06 December 2013, 15:10:15
(It's on the left, because I swapped the ESC and the Tilde in keytweak)
(http://i.imgur.com/AYpQMXW.jpg)
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 06 December 2013, 21:49:04
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:19:30
Do you guys think i should buy a Cherry mx board after i get my HHKb just to test the waters on the other side?
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:30:27
I'm getting my black HHKB this month. And once i get a chance i will be getting a Rf blank white set. And i will have a couple (At least) Bro bots to put on it :D
Do you guys think i should buy a Cherry mx board after i get my HHKb just to test the waters on the other side?
I would! I'm getting a Poker X built. :) try to get a tester from someone so you can try what switch you like. I'm getting clears!
Ps: the HHKB blanks are light gray but I think the realforce are actual white blanks. :)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:34:28
I'm getting my black HHKB this month. And once i get a chance i will be getting a Rf blank white set. And i will have a couple (At least) Bro bots to put on it :D
Do you guys think i should buy a Cherry mx board after i get my HHKb just to test the waters on the other side?
And where would you be obtaining a set of white blank RF caps? I couldn't find any lol.
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:34:47
I think if i get clears they will have to be ergos.I'm getting my black HHKB this month. And once i get a chance i will be getting a Rf blank white set. And i will have a couple (At least) Bro bots to put on it :D
Do you guys think i should buy a Cherry mx board after i get my HHKb just to test the waters on the other side?
I would! I'm getting a Poker X built. :) try to get a tester from someone so you can try what switch you like. I'm getting clears!
Ps: the HHKB blanks are light gray but I think the realforce are actual white blanks. :)
And I wanted Plain white blanks since they are just so sexy on a black HHKB.
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 06 December 2013, 22:35:42
Try to get lucky on the Classifieds.I'm getting my black HHKB this month. And once i get a chance i will be getting a Rf blank white set. And i will have a couple (At least) Bro bots to put on it :D
Do you guys think i should buy a Cherry mx board after i get my HHKb just to test the waters on the other side?
And where would you be obtaining a set of white blank RF caps? I couldn't find any lol.
Ps. Sorry for the double post.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 20 December 2013, 03:18:14
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 20 December 2013, 04:23:02
So one of the best thing I also like about the HHKB is the legs. It actually has two different legs allowing the ability to have two different angles. I like the lower one which elevate the keyboard just slightly above. So I could put the keyboard against the MacBook and have the protruding USB cable just above the trackpad. Without the legs, the mini USB would have scrape against the trackpad and I can't put the keyboard as near as I would have liked <3
I never really thought about HHKB having legs.
Mine just sits flat on the desk.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 20 December 2013, 06:23:26
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 20 December 2013, 06:35:02
So one of the best thing I also like about the HHKB is the legs. It actually has two different legs allowing the ability to have two different angles. I like the lower one which elevate the keyboard just slightly above. So I could put the keyboard against the MacBook and have the protruding USB cable just above the trackpad. Without the legs, the mini USB would have scrape against the trackpad and I can't put the keyboard as near as I would have liked <3It has legs but the feet are terrible
Post by: ctbear on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:34:51
Then I saw a post somewhere suggesting putting something soft under the keyboard. I put my old gaming mousepad under it and OMG the difference is dramatic. I haven't tried a RF before but this is how I imagine a 60% RF would be.
Post by: Wildcard on Fri, 20 December 2013, 14:47:54
Guys I can has join? I wanted to wait until this HO CC came in. :)
(It's on the left, because I swapped the ESC and the Tilde in keytweak)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AYpQMXW.jpg)
Awful that HO is looking pretty nice there :)
Enjoy it!
Post by: trax on Fri, 20 December 2013, 18:23:04
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 20 December 2013, 18:30:50
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Post by: trax on Fri, 20 December 2013, 18:33:07
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Why is it near impossible? Can't we just take a scan of the current plastic case and base ourselves from that? I don't know anything about this kind of thing but I'd really like an alu (or even heavier) case (or an HG, lol).
Post by: spiceBar on Fri, 20 December 2013, 19:18:27
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Why is it near impossible? Can't we just take a scan of the current plastic case and base ourselves from that? I don't know anything about this kind of thing but I'd really like an alu (or even heavier) case (or an HG, lol).
The shape of the top part of the case is very complex because it includes the shape of every switch housing. On other Topre boards, the switch housings are separate little pieces of plastic, all identical (almost) and they are mounted on a metal plate in which holes have been drilled. The HHKB is unique in the fact that the top of the case has all the switch housings molded in just one piece of plastic. I think it would be quite a lot of work to replicate that on a CNC machine. I'm not even sure it is possible. But I'm not an expert.
Post by: terran5992 on Fri, 20 December 2013, 21:27:01
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Why is it near impossible? Can't we just take a scan of the current plastic case and base ourselves from that? I don't know anything about this kind of thing but I'd really like an alu (or even heavier) case (or an HG, lol).
The shape of the top part of the case is very complex because it includes the shape of every switch housing. On other Topre boards, the switch housings are separate little pieces of plastic, all identical (almost) and they are mounted on a metal plate in which holes have been drilled. The HHKB is unique in the fact that the top of the case has all the switch housings molded in just one piece of plastic. I think it would be quite a lot of work to replicate that on a CNC machine. I'm not even sure it is possible. But I'm not an expert.
If it exists . Thats where my money will be going
Post by: ctbear on Fri, 20 December 2013, 22:02:37
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Why is it near impossible? Can't we just take a scan of the current plastic case and base ourselves from that? I don't know anything about this kind of thing but I'd really like an alu (or even heavier) case (or an HG, lol).
The shape of the top part of the case is very complex because it includes the shape of every switch housing. On other Topre boards, the switch housings are separate little pieces of plastic, all identical (almost) and they are mounted on a metal plate in which holes have been drilled. The HHKB is unique in the fact that the top of the case has all the switch housings molded in just one piece of plastic. I think it would be quite a lot of work to replicate that on a CNC machine. I'm not even sure it is possible. But I'm not an expert.
If it exists . Thats where my money will be going
Something like this?
http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbprohg/externals.html#no
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 20 December 2013, 22:40:00
Why isn't there an aluminium kit for the HHKB yet?
If you're talking about a case, it's near impossible because the whole thing is case-mounted... having an aluminum case would mean pretty much having an entire new keyboard, which is what the HG pretty much was. Other than the PCB and rubber cups, the rest of the keyboard is the case, which includes the switch/plunger.
Why is it near impossible? Can't we just take a scan of the current plastic case and base ourselves from that? I don't know anything about this kind of thing but I'd really like an alu (or even heavier) case (or an HG, lol).
The shape of the top part of the case is very complex because it includes the shape of every switch housing. On other Topre boards, the switch housings are separate little pieces of plastic, all identical (almost) and they are mounted on a metal plate in which holes have been drilled. The HHKB is unique in the fact that the top of the case has all the switch housings molded in just one piece of plastic. I think it would be quite a lot of work to replicate that on a CNC machine. I'm not even sure it is possible. But I'm not an expert.
If it exists . Thats where my money will be going
Something like this?
http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbprohg/externals.html#no
Is that a F****** aluminum HHKB Case!? I want one ;o
I put Bluelounge Rubber on the bottom of my HHKB I love them.
Post by: adhoc on Sat, 21 December 2013, 04:40:53
>spamming the forums just so I can type something with my HHKB <3
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:18:03
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170
(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
Post by: fourzeropooh on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:19:10
I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:21:01
I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
Yeah there's two USB 2.0 ports on the back.
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:26:33
That aluminum case is called HG series of HHKB and it costs so much you really do not want it. Also, it's a limited edition so you can't buy it anymore anyway.Most of the HHKB owners know the feeling. I think its the best typing experience you can get!
>spamming the forums just so I can type something with my HHKB <3
Post by: tuxsavvy on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:35:50
Only HHKB Pro2, HG, and Lite2. USB ports are not available on the backs of HHKB Pro or HHKB Pro JP for instance.I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :o
Yeah there's two USB 2.0 ports on the back.
Source (Japanese only and only a portion of the keyboards are covered): http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/leaflet/hhkb_backview.html
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:36:09
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:39:14
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:41:05
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
Pretty great for numpads tho :)
Post by: terran5992 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:43:35
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
Pretty great for numpads tho :)
For the people who have a numberpad
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:59:32
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
I haven't even been able to get a USB memory stick working in mine.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 23 December 2013, 22:36:48
Post by: ctbear on Mon, 23 December 2013, 23:16:17
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
I just use it for my Fitbit receiver. Pretty good place for it since I carry my HHKB to/from work, that way I can have the receiver with me most of the time.
Post by: adhoc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 01:40:37
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
Yeah I basically wanted a USB hub so I bought a HHKB, but I got a keyboard instead...can you imagine the basta***!
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 24 December 2013, 01:59:54
Post by: adhoc on Tue, 24 December 2013, 02:10:44
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 03:25:06
Post by: MJ45 on Tue, 24 December 2013, 08:03:58
I have a lot of USB flash drives some even work on the HHKB most do not, no wired mice work (none I have). But surprisingly all the DSLR Nikon cameras I own work thru the hub I think because they are self powered.
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
I haven't even been able to get a USB memory stick working in mine.
Post by: eth0s on Wed, 25 December 2013, 00:45:51
I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
Hey, I just found this pic. That looks friggin' awesomes. Not just for x-mas. That is a year-round winning combo to me. :thumb: [why thumbs up no werk?]
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 25 December 2013, 01:01:44
I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
Hey, I just found this pic. That looks friggin' awesomes. Not just for x-mas. That is a year-round winning combo to me. :thumb: [why thumbs up no werk?]
Thank you, eth0s! I put heart into it hehe. Glad to see it is appreciated. I'm constantly working to create new and unique themes for the HHKB :thumb: [not working for me either huehue]. It's too bad I'll be away from it for a week :'(
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 04:20:58
I'll be out of town during Christmas so I'll post now :)
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.msg1170170#msg1170170Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mqv9moi.jpg)
Hey, I just found this pic. That looks friggin' awesomes. Not just for x-mas. That is a year-round winning combo to me. :thumb: [why thumbs up no werk?]
There is a problem with emoticons if you quote a message that contains a picture.
Post by: adhoc on Wed, 25 December 2013, 05:23:14
Do you guys have the spring under space or did you remove it?
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:20:18
I flipped my space bar and now I love this keyboard even more. God darn it.
Do you guys have the spring under space or did you remove it?
I left the spring there. Makes the spacebar more 'stabalized'
Post by: adhoc on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:23:12
Post by: terran5992 on Wed, 25 December 2013, 06:36:59
Hmmm are you sure? I don't think the spring is there for stabilization, but more for actuation force? I'm not sure though.
It feels kinda squeaky without the spring
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 25 December 2013, 14:43:04
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 December 2013, 14:56:59
HHKB has USB ports on the back? :eek:
The USB port is so low-powered it is practically useless, IMO.
Pretty great for numpads tho :)
It works with the G80-3700.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 16:36:05
So I got my Christmas HHKB today.... :eek:
Nice :)
Welcome to the fold.
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 25 December 2013, 16:41:12
So I got my Christmas HHKB today.... :eek:
Nice :)
Welcome to the fold.
Thanks! Here's a bad picture that I posted elsewhere:
(http://imgur.com/3OMYaAe.jpg)
One of my concerns was the lack of grip that the feet provide - they seem fine to me. Over time, I'm assuming they worsen. This is the same thing that happens to the feet on my Filco. A simple fix that I use is to dampen a Q-tip and wipe the dust off of the bottom of the feet, which restores their grip. I'm assuming the same would work on the HHKB feet, so just a tip in case people didn't know.
Post by: adhoc on Wed, 25 December 2013, 17:06:24
BTW - anybody has a blank red esc key for sale? Please guys...come on, surely somebody ordered 1 too many :(
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 17:39:35
So I got my Christmas HHKB today.... :eek:
Nice :)
Welcome to the fold.
Thanks! Here's a bad picture that I posted elsewhere:Show Image(http://imgur.com/3OMYaAe.jpg)
One of my concerns was the lack of grip that the feet provide - they seem fine to me. Over time, I'm assuming they worsen. This is the same thing that happens to the feet on my Filco. A simple fix that I use is to dampen a Q-tip and wipe the dust off of the bottom of the feet, which restores their grip. I'm assuming the same would work on the HHKB feet, so just a tip in case people didn't know.
The lightness of the HHKB is a huge bonus if carrying the board around, which it is almost asking for, really.
I haven't had any problems with mine sliding around on the desk. And I actually make micro adjustments to the angle of the keyboard all the time, so a slightly lighter keyboard is a bonus.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 19:52:09
Honestly I do not find feet bad at all. I have no idea why people complain about this. My advice is you turn the space bar around - it's seriously a lot better that way. Other than that, looking good!According to deskthority wiki on realforce (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Realforce#Single_Keys): http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redescn
BTW - anybody has a blank red esc key for sale? Please guys...come on, surely somebody ordered 1 too many :(
Post by: adhoc on Wed, 25 December 2013, 19:53:47
Honestly I do not find feet bad at all. I have no idea why people complain about this. My advice is you turn the space bar around - it's seriously a lot better that way. Other than that, looking good!According to deskthority wiki on realforce (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Realforce#Single_Keys): http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,toprekeys&pid=hh_redescn
BTW - anybody has a blank red esc key for sale? Please guys...come on, surely somebody ordered 1 too many :(
Out of stock...
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:00:23
Post by: adhoc on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:01:38
Post by: tuxsavvy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:07:56
Anyway it is best to give those guys (elitekeyboards) a buzz. You might also want to post up a thread in the marketplace under
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 December 2013, 20:08:57
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 21:23:42
iirc ek said that there would be no more topre sets
So we might need to look to BroCaps and Gas Mask Keycaps for replacement single Topre keycaps.
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 December 2013, 21:26:25
iirc ek said that there would be no more topre sets
So we might need to look to BroCaps and Gas Mask Keycaps for replacement single Topre keycaps.
or make your own?
im really on the edge right now of either getting topre or waiting for cm to release something....when is CES?
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 December 2013, 21:33:17
iirc ek said that there would be no more topre sets
So we might need to look to BroCaps and Gas Mask Keycaps for replacement single Topre keycaps.
or make your own?
im really on the edge right now of either getting topre or waiting for cm to release something....when is CES?
Why not both?
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 25 December 2013, 21:37:41
iirc ek said that there would be no more topre sets
So we might need to look to BroCaps and Gas Mask Keycaps for replacement single Topre keycaps.
or make your own?
im really on the edge right now of either getting topre or waiting for cm to release something....when is CES?
Why not both?
budgeting
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 25 December 2013, 21:51:10
iirc ek said that there would be no more topre sets
So we might need to look to BroCaps and Gas Mask Keycaps for replacement single Topre keycaps.
or make your own?
im really on the edge right now of either getting topre or waiting for cm to release something....when is CES?
Very soon...
Post by: stancato9 on Sat, 11 January 2014, 00:34:41
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 01:42:17
I still like MX, but they feel like cheap toys in comparison to my HHKB.. :( Love this thing.
Heh nice comparison :)
I like my HHKB, but I also like my MX greens and blacks.
And my Model M ;)
Post by: 1pq on Sat, 11 January 2014, 13:32:52
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 11 January 2014, 15:38:56
Rowdy have you ever tried 55g cup rubber? You seem to like heavier switches, and topre, but I don't see any 55g topre boards in your sig.
Nope. The only Thorpe I have is HHKB.
One day I would like to try 55g uniform RealForce keyboard :)
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sun, 12 January 2014, 02:22:56
Then the hhkb started to grow on me - it was always more "fun" to type on, but after a few days, I find myself gravitating towards the topre board more and more. It's reached a point now that I'm a bit worried - I have a lot of MX keycaps on order incoming and my fingers seem to only want to type on the hhkb. AAAaaargh! Even the FN key on the hhkb is not an issue - it only took me a few days to adjust (currently, I use my right thumb on that key, but that may change over time). FN+ASD works great for controlling volume on OSX machines. Of course, the CTRL key is perfect there for a UNIX/Linux programmer like me. My first PC ever was the 1984 original Mac - this hhkb reminds me a lot of that keyboard (of course, the hhkb is smaller, lighter, and more fun to type on, but the size-factor and the layout are very similar).
Hopefully, over time, I'll enjoy typing on both types of switches because I have yet to explore AcidFire's board and the Kinesis Advantage LF, and I need to use up all these nice keycaps incoming.
The agony and ecstasy of having touched a Topre board...
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 12 January 2014, 05:19:49
Less than a week ago, I got a hhkb pro 2 and a set of Filco DS SPH delivered from Japan. For the first two days, I spent almost all my typing on the Filco TKL with the new sphericals - I was simply enamoured with the tank-like build quality.
Then the hhkb started to grow on me - it was always more "fun" to type on, but after a few days, I find myself gravitating towards the topre board more and more. It's reached a point now that I'm a bit worried - I have a lot of MX keycaps on order incoming and my fingers seem to only want to type on the hhkb. AAAaaargh! Even the FN key on the hhkb is not an issue - it only took me a few days to adjust (currently, I use my right thumb on that key, but that may change over time). FN+ASD works great for controlling volume on OSX machines. Of course, the CTRL key is perfect there for a UNIX/Linux programmer like me. My first PC ever was the 1984 original Mac - this hhkb reminds me a lot of that keyboard (of course, the hhkb is smaller, lighter, and more fun to type on, but the size-factor and the layout are very similar).
Hopefully, over time, I'll enjoy typing on both types of switches because I have yet to explore AcidFire's board and the Kinesis Advantage LF, and I need to use up all these nice keycaps incoming.
The agony and ecstasy of having touched a Topre board...
My exact sentiments as well. The feeling of typing on Topre (even on just HHKB alone here) is enough to lure me in. I have all these other boards with different sort of feeling but nothing comes close to Topre imo. I also have a Cherry MX board coming in as well which I will do my best to keep force rotating/switching keyboards around even though it annoys me having to do so.
The feeling of Topre to a fair few, once tasted is kind of like fly to a venus flytrap, a moth to a lightbulb, an insect caught on cobweb, etc. You cannot fight against the feeling easily because it (Topre) will just grow on you the moment you have a grudge against a specific switch/keyboard.
In hindsight, I guess you also get what you paid for. I cannot speak for those using cheaper Topre boards but I bet Realforce and PFU/HHKB is definitely up there in terms of an addictive yet exhilarating sense once you have gotten used to the feeling of it (in a good way).
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 12 January 2014, 07:42:19
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 12 January 2014, 08:05:00
If only you have read this thread earlier, it could have saved you a lot of money http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52573 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52573)
There was nothing to convince me to not buy HHKB, it (HHKB) was on my mind for a very long time. Like as said before I wasn't attracted to HHKB because of the Topre switch but the Topre switch made the whole package extremely interesting once I got my fingers on it. Before I knew much about the Topre switch HHKB had all the bells and whistles of what a portable yet somewhat mechanical keyboard is. Besides the fact that it was developed by a Japanese Internet Pioneer. Besides the fact that it is used by some notable American figures, besides the fact that I really have no use for Caps lock sitting in the (conventional) layout, besides the fact that the brand name is somewhat interesting. The overall package was enough to spark an interest. I have done my homework, but no homework is satisfiable to describe the actual feeling. They say, a picture can describe 1000 words, the same can be applied here.
Little did I know of the fact that there were enthusiasts programming their own keyboards and that there are other vendors which would have been noteworthy (and it was only numbered in days before I purchased my HHKB). However to this date I am convinced that my purchase on HHKB was worth virtually every dime. Apart from the fact that I am being "sucked" into HHKB's vortex but meh so be it. I'll probably find ways to dig my way out eventually.
If there was anything, I read the thread about Topre rubber "cups" stiffening, though at that time I still know very little about Topre switch in general. Never felt one, never had the chance to but I thought who cares at the time of purchase. You only live once, so why bother being picky? :)) One can hate all they like on certain foods they can't tolerate eating for reasons apart from being allergic to it, sure hate as much as you like, but you end up never tasting what the food would have tasted like.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 20 January 2014, 12:43:29
How do I remove my HHKB spacebar without breaking something? I'm trying to do this but it feels like I'm breaking something.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 January 2014, 12:46:35
Topre is the awesome.
How do I remove my HHKB spacebar without breaking something? I'm trying to do this but it feels like I'm breaking something.
Very carefully, it is recommended to support both ends at the same time when removing. I'll get two wire pullers, put one under each end and pull up while gently rocking, but this is all done smoothly and easily with no jerking.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 20 January 2014, 12:50:22
Very carefully, it is recommended to support both ends at the same time when removing. I'll get two wire pullers, put one under each end and pull up while gently rocking, but this is all done smoothly and easily with no jerking.
It should just release? And is there a stabilizer wire underneath or something?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 January 2014, 12:55:45
Very carefully, it is recommended to support both ends at the same time when removing. I'll get two wire pullers, put one under each end and pull up while gently rocking, but this is all done smoothly and easily with no jerking.
It should just release? And is there a stabilizer wire underneath or something?
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^^ It looks like this, what you have to be careful is to not break those stabilizer inserts.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 20 January 2014, 16:40:48
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 20 January 2014, 17:45:40
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 20 January 2014, 17:55:44
I have seen photos of the keyboard with a wire stabilizer. I'm not sure which is which. If it's what was shown above, then it is pretty easy to remove.
The wire is actually on the underside of the case. I pull of both alt/meta keys and then gently rock the spacebar upwards on either side with my two index fingers. Also be careful not to lose the spring, as the spacebar pops off with some force.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 20 January 2014, 18:34:38
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 20 January 2014, 18:56:30
I have seen photos of the keyboard with a wire stabilizer. I'm not sure which is which. If it's what was shown above, then it is pretty easy to remove.
The wire is actually on the underside of the case. I pull of both alt/meta keys and then gently rock the spacebar upwards on either side with my two index fingers. Also be careful not to lose the spring, as the spacebar pops off with some force.
It is similar to a Costar stabilizer, except the wire runs underneath the case that you see in that picture. It connects to the two stabilizer tabs on either side.
Post by: MJ45 on Mon, 20 January 2014, 19:01:25
Ok, so the photo above is without the wires? It gives the impression that it is a 'cherry switch' like .. so yeah, have to be careful!The stabilizer wires can be seen in most of the threads that feature HHKB silencing mods where the case is opened up that show the inner works.
Post by: kskwerl on Mon, 20 January 2014, 19:34:40
hopefully I will learn to use this because I do love it lawl
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 20 January 2014, 19:54:36
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 20 January 2014, 22:25:37
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/mikelanding/HHKB%20O%20Ring%20Mod/oring1b.jpg)
Post by: demik on Mon, 20 January 2014, 22:26:38
i wanted to chime in that I love my HHKB Pro 2 I can't type on it for **** and always mix up the shift with control, coming from MX Blues I jam on the keys like a monkey.
hopefully I will learn to use this because I do love it lawl
practice makes perfect.
using a hhkb makes you better than everybody else.
Post by: kskwerl on Tue, 21 January 2014, 00:19:01
i wanted to chime in that I love my HHKB Pro 2 I can't type on it for **** and always mix up the shift with control, coming from MX Blues I jam on the keys like a monkey.
hopefully I will learn to use this because I do love it lawl
practice makes perfect.
using a hhkb makes you better than everybody else.
Well yea of course that's why I bought it I didn't wanna be another pleb with some non HHKB :p
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 21 January 2014, 02:22:47
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 21 January 2014, 02:55:47
Amazing how many Topre caps I have for my HHKB2 now :D Thanks Bro, Martin, etc for making Topre versions!
QFT :)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 January 2014, 22:04:59
(http://i.imgur.com/hMIdIht.jpg)
Post by: Jrwestcoast on Wed, 29 January 2014, 22:31:58
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 29 January 2014, 22:43:41
Finally got my type s and a place for my gold bro cap.Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/30/ny2a8u2e.jpg)
So simple. So clean. I like it :)
Post by: Jrwestcoast on Wed, 29 January 2014, 22:48:15
and I am really liking how quit the type s compared to the pro.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/30/u2eqeqe4.jpg)
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 30 January 2014, 02:44:42
HHKB <3Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hMIdIht.jpg)
Beer Enthusiast! hehe mmm that is nice! :p
Post by: wrwhoami on Thu, 30 January 2014, 07:44:14
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 08 February 2014, 05:25:59
As a test, I've been attempting to use my recently acquired Poker II for work, and it's been going pretty well. One thing I realized is that the Fn layer and omission of arrow/page/home/end keys is not just for saving desktop space, but also lets you keep your hands near the home row. I sit in front of a PC all day for work, and then spend more hours in front of the PC at home, and I think it's the reaching over for those extra keys and my mouse is what makes my arm and wrist hurt the most. So far using Fn for that usage feels a little more comfortable. Is that the same experience you guys had?
One concern I have is that for coding, I do a lot of Ctrl+Shift+Home/End/Page type combos for selecting lines or regions of text, and with the Fn layer, I'm still really slow at it and have to stop and think about all the keys I need to press. Hopefully this will eventually become second nature with more usage.
But anyways, I've already made up my mind to get this board, and now I just need to make a decision about whether to order it from EK or from Japan via Tenso. With my estimates, going through Tenso would be about $50 cheaper, but EK provides their own 2 year warranty service (I'm in the US). And with this being such an expensive board, I'm thinking I'll probably get it through EK. Plus it would get to me a lot quicker, haha. :p
Key set customization for Topre looks pretty limited. My plan is to get the HHKB Pro 2 black with blanks, and sometime I'll order the blue+red esc+control set plus two blank white keysets via Tenso. I'll use one of those white keysets as-is, and the other I'll try to Rit dye as done by o2dazone. We'll see how that goes. :) Oh, and also attempt to get some Topre BroBots of course.
Well, that was a wall of text, but I'm excited to be ordering this soon. :D
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 February 2014, 06:29:13
Post by: gh_pp on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:06:10
whether to order it from EK or from Japan via Tenso. With my estimates, going through Tenso would be about $50 cheaper, but EK provides their own 2 year warranty service
hmm where do you shop?
amazon.jp is selling it at 29800 yen and ek at 260 usd with an exchange rate of 102 i don't see getting it from amazon.jp would be cheaper unless there is another jp website selling it for much cheaper consider you have to go through a proxy for extra fees and shipping
also do you guys really type ALL day? i spend a lot of time reading docs or articles or doing research. and having dedicated page up/dn key and arrow keys is so convenient so you can use the other hand to sip on coffee or use a pen.
Post by: Rewind on Sat, 08 February 2014, 13:15:48
(http://i.imgur.com/6qqqk9M.jpg)
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:00:18
You will not regret it. Just be prepared to sell your MX boards. Lol.Haha, we'll see. I'll still want something to use for all those cool keyset group buys.
amazon.jp is selling it at 29800 yen and ek at 260 usd with an exchange rate of 102 i don't see getting it from amazon.jp would be cheaper unless there is another jp website selling it for much cheaper consider you have to go through a proxy for extra fees and shippingYes, Amazon JP. 29800 yen is for the Type-S, and around 21725 yen for the regular HHKB Pro 2 (for example, search for PD-KB400BN). Plus Amazon has the keysets for much cheaper than EK, and they carry the red+blue extra keys pack that EK doesn't carry. Note that I have to pay sales tax for EK, so getting this from Amazon JP would be an even better deal if you don't get hit with sales tax. Oh and the exchange rate for JP yen to USD is great now! It used be terrible like 80 yen for a dollar.
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also do you guys really type ALL day? i spend a lot of time reading docs or articles or doing research. and having dedicated page up/dn key and arrow keys is so convenient so you can use the other hand to sip on coffee or use a pen.That's a good point, but at least you can still do those with one hand with the HHKB layout. The Poker II has arrows on the left side which is not as optimal.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 08 February 2014, 19:28:07
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 08 February 2014, 20:20:57
You can still scroll with one hand on the mouse wheel or gesture swipe on the Mac, can't you? That way sipping coffee with the other hand is no issue.Mouse wheel scroll is slower than page keys, unless you have the scroll increment jacked up. And for me, my arm ends up hurting if I mouse scroll too much. Maybe I should look into trackballs or something.
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 09 February 2014, 04:17:26
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 09 February 2014, 05:11:12
I've been ok with Fn paging with the Poker, so I think HHKB pinky Fn paging will be acceptable too. I couldn't really find a good personal usage scenario for Poker's arrow keys toggle feature. Allowing toggling of the paging keys as well would have been more useful for me.
I'm gonna go ahead and order the HHKB from EK so I get their warranty. I found two people's accounts of bad boards on the web, and also Pexon's failed USB connector issue here, although he plugs in cables a little more frequently than the average user, haha.
This also means I should get this by the end of this week! Happy Hacking times are coming soon, woo!
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 09 February 2014, 18:31:51
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sun, 09 February 2014, 23:03:43
My first board was an Filco MXRed which I liked so much that I wanted get multiple Filcos just to fit all the incoming keycaps...
...then I got a hhkb. To be honest, the first week was meh.
Then the board started to break in - the bubble-pop feeling of typing on the board has become irresistible!
Now, the hhkb is my main board and I've lost all interest in buying any MX boards except a couple of ergonomics, out of curiosity and again, to fit some incoming keycaps.
I still like my Filco with SPH doubleshots, but if I had to pick only one board, there is no question in my mind that it has to be the hhkb. Although the Filco "feels more solid", the hhkb is more fun to type on, is portable (perfect for laptops), and its usage results in less fatigue.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 10 February 2014, 01:42:51
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:36:36
Well, I only have two MX boards so far, so I wasn't too far along the "wrong path" yet, haha. And I'm a sucker for pretty keysets, so I'll most likely continue to use MX as well. I suppose if I really end up loving Topre, and those upcoming MX-compatible Topre switches are good, then I could have my cake and eat it too.
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:44:20
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 February 2014, 07:54:23
So stoked right now. OriginativeCo finally has Thick lube back in stock after a month + of waiting and PMing mkawa a couple times. When I get it, my HHKB Pro2 will be as silent as all hell. Excited.
You already did dental bands right?
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:39:28
HHKB Pro 2 has been ordered! I went with the regular over Type-S since I wanted the black case.
Well, I only have two MX boards so far, so I wasn't too far along the "wrong path" yet, haha. And I'm a sucker for pretty keysets, so I'll most likely continue to use MX as well. I suppose if I really end up loving Topre, and those upcoming MX-compatible Topre switches are good, then I could have my cake and eat it too.
Congrats! That's the color to get!
So stoked right now. OriginativeCo finally has Thick lube back in stock after a month + of waiting and PMing mkawa a couple times. When I get it, my HHKB Pro2 will be as silent as all hell. Excited.
You already did dental bands right?
Correct!
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 10 February 2014, 18:52:19
So stoked right now. OriginativeCo finally has Thick lube back in stock after a month + of waiting and PMing mkawa a couple times. When I get it, my HHKB Pro2 will be as silent as all hell. Excited.
Dude, I LOVE lube - you can use it on keyboards too? Anyway, great stuff.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Mon, 10 February 2014, 18:53:46
HHKB Pro 2 has been ordered! I went with the regular over Type-S since I wanted the black case.My HHKB is the best thing I own. Not just keyboard, but possession.
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:41:12
As for the HHKB itself, its minimal design is so clean and attractive. I got the black printed keys on black since I liked the look with legends, and the keys look and feel great. I think I would have liked the board to be a little heavier, and the rubber feet are terribad at keeping the board in one place. My cat likes to lay on the desk above my keyboard, and one paw kick and bam, the HHKB is now sitting in my lap. But that should be easily remedied with some extra feet or anti-slip liners.
For me, the main downside is that I really wish this board was programmable, at least with one layer like the Poker II. As discussed in the Poker II for software dev thread, it's a little difficult to do key chord combinations that deal with Shift + Arrow + Ctrl + function keys/Home/End/etc in the Fn layer, especially when working with Windows and Visual Studio. With the Poker II, I was able to make things a lot more intuitive for me by programming a couple of Pn macros. I'm going to try practicing more with the HHKB and see if I can get used to it for coding. Also I'll try to learn vim, which a couple of people mentioned worked well for them for 60% boards. In the worst case, I'll use the Poker II for work, and HHKB for home usage. We'll see how that works switching between the two board's Fn layouts. Right now I keep hitting Alt and WASD on the HHKB, haha.
But consider me a Topre convert! Now I understand why everyone gushes so much over it. And I haven't heard the Type-S, but I think I'm glad I got the regular HHKB Pro2, since I just love the way it sounds right now and wouldn't want it to be quieter.
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:43:27
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:44:53
The poker 2 has PBT not ABS by the way.I got the backlit Poker 2, which comes with ABS.
When are you getting your HHKB?? ;D
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 13 February 2014, 00:47:36
Soon(™) It's not just me being silly and not buying it. It's mostly money constraints as I'm a 14 year old with little money. Getting a job here soon so I'm going to have some extra cash to throw at my screen to get one. And Contrary to popular belief I don't have tons of novelty caps and keysets just laying around. I only bought a steel BroBot because I just love it and It was impulse.The poker 2 has PBT not ABS by the way.I got the backlit Poker 2, which comes with ABS.
When are you getting your HHKB?? ;D
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 13 February 2014, 02:11:45
Soon(™) It's not just me being silly and not buying it. It's mostly money constraints as I'm a 14 year old with little money. Getting a job here soon so I'm going to have some extra cash to throw at my screen to get one. And Contrary to popular belief I don't have tons of novelty caps and keysets just laying around. I only bought a steel BroBot because I just love it and It was impulse.The poker 2 has PBT not ABS by the way.I got the backlit Poker 2, which comes with ABS.
When are you getting your HHKB?? ;D
Hey thats cool youre getting into mechanical young! I used rubberdomes half my damn life.. ;( Better late then never! :D
About to do some amazing stuff to my hhkb... just wait! :rolleyes:
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:29:11
Ahhh, ok got it. That's cool. Good luck with your job and your HHKB fund raising efforts. :thumb:Soon(™) It's not just me being silly and not buying it. It's mostly money constraints as I'm a 14 year old with little money. Getting a job here soon so I'm going to have some extra cash to throw at my screen to get one. And Contrary to popular belief I don't have tons of novelty caps and keysets just laying around. I only bought a steel BroBot because I just love it and It was impulse.The poker 2 has PBT not ABS by the way.I got the backlit Poker 2, which comes with ABS.
When are you getting your HHKB?? ;D
Post by: 1pq on Thu, 13 February 2014, 15:55:39
Soon(™) It's not just me being silly and not buying it. It's mostly money constraints as I'm a 14 year old with little money. Getting a job here soon so I'm going to have some extra cash to throw at my screen to get one. And Contrary to popular belief I don't have tons of novelty caps and keysets just laying around. I only bought a steel BroBot because I just love it and It was impulse.The poker 2 has PBT not ABS by the way.I got the backlit Poker 2, which comes with ABS.
When are you getting your HHKB?? ;D
Aww man, it would've been so funny if you actually were some old crotchety guy who wouldn't shell out the money for a mechanical keyboard but had tons and tons of Brobots and colored topre sets :p
Post by: ajx on Thu, 13 February 2014, 23:29:57
i know about ctrl/capslock issue but i never use ctrl as function in game
really wondering if HHKB and FPS do match together
i know most of players can use either blue or brown for gaming, i simply cant, i bottom out too much and tactile bump does interfere me and cause me a trouble
same for Torpre switch?
Post by: Zaskar on Fri, 14 February 2014, 01:28:30
wondering how HHKB feels on gaming?
i know about ctrl/capslock issue but i never use ctrl as function in game
really wondering if HHKB and FPS do match together
i know most of players can use either blue or brown for gaming, i simply cant, i bottom out too much and tactile bump does interfere me and cause me a trouble
same for Torpre switch?
I love Topre for gaming, I have both a 45g Realforce 87U and a HHKB 2.
HHKB2 took a bit more getting use to for gaming for me then it did for actual typing (too much Control for Duck muscle memory) but you get use to it. I can see games that make Heavy use of the F keys being a bit rough as much of the convenience the FN layer adds for typing can work against you when gaming since one hand is always on the mouse.
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 14 February 2014, 04:19:41
wondering how HHKB feels on gaming?
i know about ctrl/capslock issue but i never use ctrl as function in game
really wondering if HHKB and FPS do match together
i know most of players can use either blue or brown for gaming, i simply cant, i bottom out too much and tactile bump does interfere me and cause me a trouble
same for Torpre switch?
Just my two cents, I have only played FPSs with my HHKBs and I love it, seriously absolutely no issue. Play a lot of TF2 and some BF4. In fact I was thinking last night that I finally understand what they mean by oneness with cup rubber :) With Topre boards you can often forget that the keyboard even exists, it actually starts to feel like you are interacting directly with the machine which is pretty much ideal. That all being said linear switches might be a little nicer for gaming but I still don't ever find myself wanting to switch to my mx black board when I game so that says something as well.
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 14 February 2014, 05:38:30
Post by: ajx on Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:27:39
I play Skyrim and Borderlands 2 with my HHKB and its great.
did you ever try linear switch and make comparison among tactile switch / Torpre?wondering how HHKB feels on gaming?
i know about ctrl/capslock issue but i never use ctrl as function in game
really wondering if HHKB and FPS do match together
i know most of players can use either blue or brown for gaming, i simply cant, i bottom out too much and tactile bump does interfere me and cause me a trouble
same for Torpre switch?
Just my two cents, I have only played FPSs with my HHKBs and I love it, seriously absolutely no issue. Play a lot of TF2 and some BF4. In fact I was thinking last night that I finally understand what they mean by oneness with cup rubber :) With Topre boards you can often forget that the keyboard even exists, it actually starts to feel like you are interacting directly with the machine which is pretty much ideal. That all being said linear switches might be a little nicer for gaming but I still don't ever find myself wanting to switch to my mx black board when I game so that says something as well.
of course its a matter of personal preference, but for having both keyboard with brown and red switch, i definitely like red over brown as for gaming mainly when i am bottoming out much, necessarily for circle-strafing
never said its unplayable with brown but it suits better with red
well my question was if you bottom out the keys, does Torpre be recommend for gaming?
Post by: osi on Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:59:48
I play Skyrim and Borderlands 2 with my HHKB and its great.did you ever try linear switch and make comparison among tactile switch / Torpre?wondering how HHKB feels on gaming?
i know about ctrl/capslock issue but i never use ctrl as function in game
really wondering if HHKB and FPS do match together
i know most of players can use either blue or brown for gaming, i simply cant, i bottom out too much and tactile bump does interfere me and cause me a trouble
same for Torpre switch?
Just my two cents, I have only played FPSs with my HHKBs and I love it, seriously absolutely no issue. Play a lot of TF2 and some BF4. In fact I was thinking last night that I finally understand what they mean by oneness with cup rubber :) With Topre boards you can often forget that the keyboard even exists, it actually starts to feel like you are interacting directly with the machine which is pretty much ideal. That all being said linear switches might be a little nicer for gaming but I still don't ever find myself wanting to switch to my mx black board when I game so that says something as well.
of course its a matter of personal preference, but for having both keyboard with brown and red switch, i definitely like red over brown as for gaming mainly when i am bottoming out much, necessarily for circle-strafing
never said its unplayable with brown but it suits better with red
well my question was if you bottom out the keys, does Torpre be recommend for gaming?
It's going to boil down to preference everytime. I can game fine with the HHKB but I Have used RD keyboards for so long while gaming, I just like the linear action in this scenario.
I did recently have my keyboard modded though. My spacebar has a clear switch while most of the rest of my board are reds. The clear allows me to really float the space bar.
Post by: ajx on Sat, 15 February 2014, 22:31:27
i have kind of dilemma, i choose red because couldnt play properly with brown, i even favored black over red but typing on those black switches, real pain
red provides me good feeling on both, typing and gaming
i describe exactly what i might be afraid with Torpre (cant try them before buying):
i spam too quickly keys, with tactile activation, you might activate one of these keys accidentally
on brown you cant predict activation very well when you spam quickly
i m just curious about Torpre feeling and HHKB may be a keyboard to own
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sat, 15 February 2014, 22:40:40
meaning linear switch looks to be completely different from Torpre switch?
i have kind of dilemma, i choose red because couldnt play properly with brown, i even favored black over red but typing on those black switches, real pain
red provides me good feeling on both, typing and gaming
i describe exactly what i might be afraid with Torpre (cant try them before buying):
i spam too quickly keys, with tactile activation, you might activate one of these keys accidentally
on brown you cant predict activation very well when you spam quickly
i m just curious about Torpre feeling and HHKB may be a keyboard to own
why not get a hhkb for coding/work and keep the reds for gaming? that's what I do...
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 15 February 2014, 22:43:01
Yes, do this. One can never have too many keyboards! :thumb:meaning linear switch looks to be completely different from Torpre switch?
i have kind of dilemma, i choose red because couldnt play properly with brown, i even favored black over red but typing on those black switches, real pain
red provides me good feeling on both, typing and gaming
i describe exactly what i might be afraid with Torpre (cant try them before buying):
i spam too quickly keys, with tactile activation, you might activate one of these keys accidentally
on brown you cant predict activation very well when you spam quickly
i m just curious about Torpre feeling and HHKB may be a keyboard to own
why not get a hhkb for coding/work and keep the reds for gaming? that's what I do...
Post by: ajx on Sat, 15 February 2014, 23:54:12
curious about lettering on dark grey colour, is it readable from dark?
can we switch return by enter through DIP switch
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sun, 16 February 2014, 01:05:44
yes it could worth it but it also worth money lol
curious about lettering on dark grey colour, is it readable from dark?
can we switch return by enter through DIP switch
imho, hhkb is definitely worth the money - but if you decide to buy one, make sure you give it a couple of weeks to break in.
There is a DIP switch combo for Mac vs PC - I think if you switch to PC mode, you should get an Enter for the Return key.
From what I heard about the dark grey lettering, they are barely legible in bright lighting - think of them as ninja keys. There are nipples on the F/J keys so touch-typing in the dark is a non-issue. I personally use a blank white hhkb - even though the font on the white is absolutely beautiful, they really aren't necessary. Also with a blank board, if I ever decide to invest the time to learn Colemak or Dvorak, keycaps are a non-issue.
ymmv, but the people who seem to get the greatest benefit from a hhkb are UNIX-programmers who happen to be touch typists. The control-key is in the perfect place for vim/emacs. The small form factor allows one to keep fingers on home row. Its lightness and portability is perfect for remote ssh/VPN access via a laptop. Laptop ergonomics are improved by the external keyboard. Cursor/function keys are within easy reach. imho, I cannot imagine an improvement on hhkb except possibly the addition of Bluetooth, but even then, requiring batteries is a bit of a trade-off. Even though I love the idea of a programmable hhkb, it's so good already that I can't bring myself to take the risk/effort to mod the board.
Of course, it's the thocking that really makes Topre unique, and many non-developers will like a hhkb just for the touch-and-feel of the keyboard.
It is the least fatigue-inducing switch out there and arguably, the board that is the most fun to type on. But for non-UNIX-programmers, there may be issues: for example, crazy multi-key combos may be needed for Visual Studio, which I haven't used for years, but maybe other developers can chime in here.
Some people who are bothered by the Fn-arrow key combos may opt to get the JP version of the hhkb. I think it's a non-issue as the Fn-arrow only took a week to get used to and most of the time, I am using vim-mode provided by utilities or the OS.
EDIT: So many of my friends laugh when they hear that hhkb stands for Happy Hacking KeyBoard, but the more I use this board, the more I feel that the name is perfectly apt - as perfect as the board itself!
Post by: ajx on Sun, 16 February 2014, 01:30:58
Mac compatibility does count to me (PRO)
Being barely visible from dark does not (CON)
HHKB layout wont hurt me since i get used to type on different layout (ISO then ANSI) but i will always keep one layout for long time, cannot switch between several ones
Blank keys are definitely not for me since i watch keyboard sometimes when i start typing (yes i know burn me for being bad typer lol) and also would be a potential issue when you have to manually type many passwords on your computer
question #1
where can i buy HHKB with good price?
question #2
anything about custom taxes? (i live in EU)
question #3
i am looking for keycaps but all i found its blank keys and colored ones
thanks
Post by: kfmfe04 on Sun, 16 February 2014, 01:43:40
you convince me to almost buy one :p
Mac compatibility does count to me (PRO)
Being barely visible from dark does not (CON)
HHKB layout wont hurt me since i get used to type on different layout (ISO then ANSI) but i will always keep one layout for long time, cannot switch between several ones
Blank keys are definitely not for me since i watch keyboard sometimes when i start typing (yes i know burn me for being bad typer lol) and also would be a potential issue when you have to manually type many passwords on your computer
question #1
where can i buy HHKB with good price?
question #2
anything about custom taxes? (i live in EU)
question #3
i am looking for keycaps but all i found its blank keys and colored ones
thanks
#1 A friend of mine bought one for me from amazon.co.jp while visiting for the equivalent of EUR157. I've heard that people have had good experiences with Tenso.com as a Japan proxy.
#2 I have no idea - other European geekhackers can prolly chime in here
#3 this is a serious problem as the latest news indicates that Topre caps are no longer being made - my solution to this problem is simply to keep my caps fetish on my MX boards - but my suggestion to you is, to take it a step-at-a-time. Get a hhkb and make sure you really like it before buying or looking for Topre caps.
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 16 February 2014, 01:52:39
Question #2: you need to be specific about where in EU you live in. Not every country in the EU has the same customs duty.
Question #3: Depends on what sort of keycaps are you after. There are some novelty keycaps like clack keys, binge caps, bro caps, etc. For the standard ones there are the Realforce sets which you probably am aware of. Anything fancy like that such as media keys you need to harvest them off other Topre keyboards like that Sory (Sony) keyboard.
Post by: ajx on Sun, 16 February 2014, 02:04:08
you might get custom taxes while your neighboor doesnt
what if i buy used HHKB from amazon.co.jp, will i avoid taxes?
18 000 yen, its cheap! but i dont know if seller ships at international
i would mail him but afraid he doesnt speak english
Post by: tuxsavvy on Sun, 16 February 2014, 03:38:55
If you are interested in sourcing it from Japan you need to be aware of all issues that was highlighted on the deskthority wiki link that I posted.
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 17 February 2014, 02:36:31
Post by: Dodgy on Mon, 17 February 2014, 11:55:37
I'm wondering though, why the unused space in the bottom corners? What's the reason for that design decision?
Post by: dustinhxc on Mon, 17 February 2014, 12:08:56
Well damn, I'd been mulling it over for a while- I'm going to order one for myself next week, can't resist it anymore...
I'm wondering though, why the unused space in the bottom corners? What's the reason for that design decision?
Good choice! No need for Caps Lock button. Not sure why there isnt a right control button, oh well I made my Right Alt into Control. I guess the space on the right is for the logo. Looks cool thought and I dont need a right Alt so it all works out in the end for me.
Post by: Xowie on Mon, 17 February 2014, 16:04:58
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 17 February 2014, 17:37:04
I am really tempted to buy an HHKB after reading this thread (and the hate thread :eek: ). I bought a ducky shine 3 a couple weeks ago with cherry mx green switches, but I find them too heavy for hours of programming and writing papers. I am both intrigued and afraid of the layout :blank: . If the board was a bit cheaper I would definitely bite, I think I may sleep on deciding whether to get one.If you have read the Hate thread earlier, you would have save $ by NOT getting the Ducky.
Post by: Xowie on Tue, 18 February 2014, 08:30:15
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 18 February 2014, 17:52:36
Post by: Xowie on Thu, 20 February 2014, 21:23:58
Post by: neunelfer on Thu, 20 February 2014, 22:27:16
I am really tempted to buy an HHKB after reading this thread (and the hate thread :eek: ). I bought a ducky shine 3 a couple weeks ago with cherry mx green switches, but I find them too heavy for hours of programming and writing papers. I am both intrigued and afraid of the layout :blank: . If the board was a bit cheaper I would definitely bite, I think I may sleep on deciding whether to get one.If you have read the Hate thread earlier, you would have save $ by NOT getting the Ducky.
I had to learn the hard way. It is a toss up between a realforce and HHKB. Time to sleep on it again.
EDIT: Decided to pull the trigger, but elitekeyboards is out of the white with printed caps..womp womp
Still going back and forth on to buy or not. I am considering waiting to see what the CM novatouch is like.
If you have the money and are interested, I highly doubt you would regret purchasing it.
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 20 February 2014, 22:58:25
I'm kind of regretting not going for the type-S right away. I don't think the difference is huge, but the sound of the keys popping back up distracts from the lovely thock sound.
This is my dream, lubed type S (a.k.a. buying with next paycheck):
Post by: kfmfe04 on Fri, 21 February 2014, 01:52:53
hhkb is my primary board, but I certainly don't feel my Filco TKL (MX Reds) feels cheap at all, in comparison, especially with Filco's doubleshot caps. imho, Filco's build quality clearly surpasses that of the hhkb; the Majestouch is built like a tank. With better keycaps, it almost feels like typing on an old-style typewriter. The simulation could be improved by using a more tactile switch, but I'm not sure how that would impact typing endurance.
Anyhow, the hhkb is more fun and less exhausting to type on, but a casual first-time user would probably have a hard time distinguishing the hhkb from plain rubber-domes.
I use my hhkb with my laptop so connecting and disconnecting the USB cable several times daily has me a bit worried about the port. Otherwise, the layout/size/weight is perfect for UNIX development on a laptop and improves ergonomics greatly.
Rather than buying a Type-S, I think I'd prefer to save up a bit more to buy a second regular, so I have a permanent one for my desktop(s) - less wear on the USB ports... ...the regular is plenty quiet compared to the Filco.
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 21 February 2014, 02:17:45
I don't know if your comment is directed towards Cherry boards in particular or Cherry switch boards in general.Personally I'd take dye sub pbt over doubleshot abs, So filco's caps aren't really that much better.
hhkb is my primary board, but I certainly don't feel my Filco TKL (MX Reds) feels cheap at all, in comparison, especially with Filco's doubleshot caps. imho, Filco's build quality clearly surpasses that of the hhkb; the Majestouch is built like a tank. With better keycaps, it almost feels like typing on an old-style typewriter. The simulation could be improved by using a more tactile switch, but I'm not sure how that would impact typing endurance.
Anyhow, the hhkb is more fun and less exhausting to type on, but a casual first-time user would probably have a hard time distinguishing the hhkb from plain rubber-domes.
I use my hhkb with my laptop so connecting and disconnecting the USB cable several times daily has me a bit worried about the port. Otherwise, the layout/size/weight is perfect for UNIX development on a laptop and improves ergonomics greatly.
Rather than buying a Type-S, I think I'd prefer to save up a bit more to buy a second regular, so I have a permanent one for my desktop(s) - less wear on the USB ports... ...the regular is plenty quiet compared to the Filco.
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 21 February 2014, 06:10:33
So I've had the hhkb for about two weeks now. What can I say... I'm in love. All my cherry boards feel "cheap" if that makes sense.
I'm kind of regretting not going for the type-S right away. I don't think the difference is huge, but the sound of the keys popping back up distracts from the lovely thock sound.
This is my dream, lubed type S (a.k.a. buying with next paycheck):
I just added the Silent sliders from the 87U Silent and Lubed mine and it feels and sounds way better.
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 21 February 2014, 06:31:13
So I've had the hhkb for about two weeks now. What can I say... I'm in love. All my cherry boards feel "cheap" if that makes sense.
I'm kind of regretting not going for the type-S right away. I don't think the difference is huge, but the sound of the keys popping back up distracts from the lovely thock sound.
This is my dream, lubed type S (a.k.a. buying with next paycheck):
I just added the Silent sliders from the 87U Silent and Lubed mine and it feels and sounds way better.
Damn and 55g domes, so jealous right now. Which keys did you take the 55g domes from?
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 21 February 2014, 06:34:37
So I've had the hhkb for about two weeks now. What can I say... I'm in love. All my cherry boards feel "cheap" if that makes sense.
I'm kind of regretting not going for the type-S right away. I don't think the difference is huge, but the sound of the keys popping back up distracts from the lovely thock sound.
This is my dream, lubed type S (a.k.a. buying with next paycheck):
I just added the Silent sliders from the 87U Silent and Lubed mine and it feels and sounds way better.
Damn and 55g domes, so jealous right now. Which keys did you take the 55g domes from?
Yep! 87U. I have some left over to put back in the 87U mixed with 45g. But now I want all 55 in the 87U too! :0
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 21 February 2014, 06:43:59
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 21 February 2014, 06:48:14
I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 21 February 2014, 07:08:01
I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Great that is what I was hoping for, going to have to pull the trigger on a 55g soon and do something similar. They really should offer a 55g model but I suppose the product is niche as it is so more options must be tough.
Post by: osi on Fri, 21 February 2014, 07:24:49
I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Dustin--have you ever typed on a Leo FC660C? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the different feels there.
Post by: reziak on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:47:28
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:41:45
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:37:32
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:57:15
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 04 March 2014, 18:25:19
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 18:44:39
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
That would be interesting, but I'd say they'd do it themselves :P But unlikely. 55g is naturally pretty silent though (in a RF that has a plate). Can't speak for how loud they are in HHKB though.
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:12:41
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
That would be interesting, but I'd say they'd do it themselves :P But unlikely. 55g is naturally pretty silent though (in a RF that has a plate). Can't speak for how loud they are in HHKB though.
They're pretty silent because they have less thock, not because they have a dampened upstroke, though, right?
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:20:59
Is it just the domes that give the added weight, or the dome plus springs? Also 87u doesn't have an option that's silenced AND 55g, correct?
Just the domes, and they do not have a silenced 55g. They don't even have a silenced all 45g. Only silenced variable weight.
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
That would be interesting, but I'd say they'd do it themselves :P But unlikely. 55g is naturally pretty silent though (in a RF that has a plate). Can't speak for how loud they are in HHKB though.
They're pretty silent because they have less thock, not because they have a dampened upstroke, though, right?
I wouldn't say they have less thock. Probably has more do with the plate and less play when key reaches the top.
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:23:30
I wouldn't say they have less thock. Probably has more do with the plate and less play when key reaches the top.
Hmm, I've always heard that HHKB > FC660C > RF in terms of thock. You'd disagree? (I value your opinion a lot since you own all three)
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:09:44
I wouldn't say they have less thock. Probably has more do with the plate and less play when key reaches the top.
Hmm, I've always heard that HHKB > FC660C > RF in terms of thock. You'd disagree? (I value your opinion a lot since you own all three)
I'd agree with that in terms of the volume of the thock. If you're talking about which one has the best thock, well I think that is more of a subjective nature. I think that the "thock" of these keyboards are all slightly different because of their unique construction, materials, and form factor.
When talking about the characteristics of thock, most people tend to prefer the raw thock of the HHKB because of the lack of a metal plate, therefore giving the maximum amount of sound. The RF 55g has a more deeper/low-tone and snappier/poppier sound due to the more responsive rubber cup and the addition of a metal plate, which I like equally to the HHKB. The 660C can pretty much be described as being in between the HHKB and the RF 55g, taking the best aspects of both boards and balancing out (lighter than 55g, soft bottoming out because of plate while still providing snappy and responsive feel with enough a good thock). This however, I've found, makes it kind of unexciting and I found myself typing on the 2 extremes (HHKB or 55g), but don't get me wrong, the 660C is an awesome all round board. In my opinion, the RF 45g is in between the HHKB and the 660C, which makes it kind of the combination of the downsides of the 2 boards, making it bland and boring.
I know I've said this before but I'll try to make a video of the HHKB and RF 55g, and maybe the RF 45g (23UB) so you can compare it to the sound of my 660C. I know they won't be too accurate but at least you'll have a comparison between all of them from the same environment and same source. You can adjust/calibrate based on the actual sound of your own 660C.
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:27:45
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
Yes, the latter. This was Brian thinking out loud about what EK might attempt in the future to differentiate themselves from Cooler Master's offering.
Post by: VesperSAINT on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:31:23
If you want to see silenced 55g Realforce options then be sure to express this to EK.
Since EK doesn't manufacture Realforces, if they tried to offer silenced 55g realforces, they'd have to manually swap the sliders or domes. Are you suggesting that EK might be able to convince Topre to manufacture silent 55g RFs?
Yes, the latter. This was Brian thinking out loud about what EK might attempt in the future to differentiate themselves from Cooler Master's offering.
Well, that is quite interesting! Will look forward to hearing more about this. If this were to actually go through, people wouldn't have to buy 2-3 different keyboards to get the Topre board that they want, and end up trying to sell 1-2 left over Frankenstein boards.
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:47:33
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:53:09
Has there been any nuanced discussion here on swapping out HHKB domes for 55g? I've seen a few people mention it, I'm curious to know more about what it would entail... is it super hard to do?
It's not super hard. On the HHKB you gotta be careful you don't break the tabs when you open it up. Then you want to make sure your on a good work surface and you don't lose any of the springs. Then once you get the domes etc all put back in and you put the HHKB together you gotta get it just right or keys won't register.
While you are at it you might as well do a silencing mod and lube as well.
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:55:36
Has there been any nuanced discussion here on swapping out HHKB domes for 55g? I've seen a few people mention it, I'm curious to know more about what it would entail... is it super hard to do?
Getting an entire keyboard just for the domes seems pretty extravagant but I would still like to attempt this at some point. Anything less than 55g now feels too light :/ I wonder how much the resulting Realforce keyboards with the HHKB stock domes sell for.
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:57:59
While you are at it you might as well do a silencing mod and lube as well.
I would definitely want to do the silencing mod at the same time. Does a new'ish HHKB need lube though or is it better to wait to do that?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:58:32
Has there been any nuanced discussion here on swapping out HHKB domes for 55g? I've seen a few people mention it, I'm curious to know more about what it would entail... is it super hard to do?
Getting an entire keyboard just for the domes seems pretty extravagant but I would still like to attempt this at some point. Anything less than 55g now feels too light :/ I wonder how much the resulting Realforce keyboards with the HHKB stock domes sell for.
My white 87U donor board is still in pieces ::)
Post by: avtar on Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:17:09
My white 87U donor board is still in pieces ::)
Damn, those are even pricier HHKBs then :eek:
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:49:07
Post by: avtar on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:51:06
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 05 March 2014, 14:58:09
I've got the same problem, I am keen to buy a 55g 87u but I would never be able to gut it for the 55g domes. Need to find someone who is just selling the domes but it would seem that is a tall order. Not many broken 87u's out there :) How does the HHKB feel with 55g is it quite different?
Feels way more alive, very snappy. I thought it would be a very extreme weight but it's actually just a bit more to make it perfect. Not sure why they chose 45g for all models. They should have the option like RF gives you. But I've got enough left over to have a 45g 87U w 55g alphas. So it'll be nice.
Dustin--have you ever typed on a Leo FC660C? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the different feels there.
Nope but mine comes today! :D I will Silence it and Lube it!
Has there been any nuanced discussion here on swapping out HHKB domes for 55g? I've seen a few people mention it, I'm curious to know more about what it would entail... is it super hard to do?
Getting an entire keyboard just for the domes seems pretty extravagant but I would still like to attempt this at some point. Anything less than 55g now feels too light :/ I wonder how much the resulting Realforce keyboards with the HHKB stock domes sell for.
My white 87U donor board is still in pieces ::)
haha I put both my 87Us back together the same week I took them apart. :D But the 55g model I have to re do the dome for the Enter key. *facepalm* Oh well, Im a pro at opening them now..
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:20:52
What? Congrats! But again, what? How?
Well, I had to hand the same guy some money, but it was still a pretty good deal :P
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 17:44:54
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 06 March 2014, 08:37:49
It's not super hard. On the HHKB you gotta be careful you don't break the tabs when you open it up. Then you want to make sure your on a good work surface and you don't lose any of the springs. Then once you get the domes etc all put back in and you put the HHKB together you gotta get it just right or keys won't register.
While you are at it you might as well do a silencing mod and lube as well.
The domes are attached to the PCB how? Glued? How would I remove them safely and then re-attach them?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 March 2014, 08:40:08
It's not super hard. On the HHKB you gotta be careful you don't break the tabs when you open it up. Then you want to make sure your on a good work surface and you don't lose any of the springs. Then once you get the domes etc all put back in and you put the HHKB together you gotta get it just right or keys won't register.
While you are at it you might as well do a silencing mod and lube as well.
The domes are attached to the PCB how? Glued? How would I remove them safely and then re-attach them?
Mine just came right off. There might be a slightly sticky residue but its not like super glue or anything :D
Got side tracked here is a photo of the two pcbs with some stuff removed etc.
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Post by: spiceBar on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:04:54
It's not super hard. On the HHKB you gotta be careful you don't break the tabs when you open it up. Then you want to make sure your on a good work surface and you don't lose any of the springs. Then once you get the domes etc all put back in and you put the HHKB together you gotta get it just right or keys won't register.
While you are at it you might as well do a silencing mod and lube as well.
The domes are attached to the PCB how? Glued? How would I remove them safely and then re-attach them?
The domes are not glued at all, and it's actually a problem because most of the time when you open the keyboard you would like them to stay in place.
As they are made of rubber and pressed hard on the PCB when the keyboard is assembled, they tend to stick just a little bit to the PCB. But they are very easy to remove.
The problem then is to put them back in place precisely centered on the PCB's key sensor. If you misalign one, the dome will stay compressed when you reassemble the keyboard, which result in a stuck key and you must open and fix... Not funny.
You can find my silencing mod for the FC660C here, with pictures. It also works for other Topre boards, including the HHKB:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49046.0
Post by: SuperiorKarate on Thu, 06 March 2014, 12:47:33
Mine just came right off. There might be a slightly sticky residue but its not like super glue or anything :DThanks for your support/information guys, I just took my board apart, removed and reset the domes to get a sense of what it's like - I'm gonna go for the mod!
Got side tracked here is a photo of the two pcbs with some stuff removed etc.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: osi on Fri, 07 March 2014, 11:30:18
My hands and mind are now really acquainted to the hhkb layout. The reasons for my frequent errors on other boards are caused by me wanting to type in the hhkb layout on EVERYTHING. A hindrance that I now expect when using other boards.
For me, the hkkb layout is by far my favorite to type on. Will probably pick up another for the house eventually.
<3
Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 16 March 2014, 11:58:21
HHKB 4 lyfe
Post by: argcargv on Sun, 16 March 2014, 12:06:26
I got through the top row of the silencing mod that uses ironed soft-landing pads, and after putting everything back together to test that I was doing things correctly, decided that I like the feel and sound of the un-silenced HHKB better anyways :P. I could have lubed everything while it was opened, but I think I want to give everything a couple of months to break in before I go that route.
HHKB 4 lyfe
Un-silenced HHKB is the best :thumb:
Post by: iMav on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:30:30
I just use it for my Fitbit receiver. Pretty good place for it since I carry my HHKB to/from work, that way I can have the receiver with me most of the time.
Resurrecting this thread simply to say...
brilliant
Post by: daerid on Fri, 26 December 2014, 21:56:23
I just use it for my Fitbit receiver. Pretty good place for it since I carry my HHKB to/from work, that way I can have the receiver with me most of the time.
Resurrecting this thread simply to say...
brilliant
I just got a Charge for xmas, and HOLY CRAP that's genius.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 26 December 2014, 22:10:08
Post by: daerid on Fri, 26 December 2014, 22:37:45
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 18 January 2015, 11:51:21
I'll probably end up getting a HHKB Type-S one of these days, depending if I can get used to the Infinity or not.I have an Infinity 60 with Matias switches and Hacker layout on order. In the meantime, I purchased two KBP V60 Matias switch boards, one with Matias Click and the other with Matias Quiet switches. Using Karabiner software, I've remapped them to the HHKB layout. I really like the V60 boards. If they were completely programmable and if dye-sublimated PBT keycaps were easier to find for Alps-mount/Matias switches, the V60 Matias-switch keyboards could be real contenders. I am typing this on my V60MTS-C and really enjoying it. When I need quiet typing, the V60MTS-Q is even quieter than my HHKB Type-S.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 11:56:08
CHEERS!
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:00:24
Mines will be here tomorrow! Wish EK had added Saturday delivery...the anticipation is killing me. I foresee this being my main driver for all work-related projects.If you live in the US I don't think you will get it tomorrow unless the post delivers on MLK day
CHEERS!
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:05:06
Mines will be here tomorrow! Wish EK had added Saturday delivery...the anticipation is killing me. I foresee this being my main driver for all work-related projects.If you live in the US I don't think you will get it tomorrow unless the post delivers on MLK day
CHEERS!
I checked Fedex Home delivery and it seems that they do deliver on MLK. Yea I was a bit worried but I know for sure that UPS works so I'm sure Fedex will too. If not, something bad might happen... :))
Post by: sethk_ on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:05:53
What color did you get? I have a white gray printed and I absolutely love itMines will be here tomorrow! Wish EK had added Saturday delivery...the anticipation is killing me. I foresee this being my main driver for all work-related projects.If you live in the US I don't think you will get it tomorrow unless the post delivers on MLK day
CHEERS!
I checked Fedex Home delivery and it seems that they do deliver on MLK. Yea I was a bit worried but I know for sure that UPS works so I'm sure Fedex will too. If not, something bad might happen... :))
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:27:15
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:33:28
I'm really starting to want a second HHKB (white with black printed caps) and I haven't even owned mine for a month yet. I really don't need a type s but I may go for it in the future.
What color did you get? I have a white gray printed and I absolutely love itMines will be here tomorrow! Wish EK had added Saturday delivery...the anticipation is killing me. I foresee this being my main driver for all work-related projects.If you live in the US I don't think you will get it tomorrow unless the post delivers on MLK day
CHEERS!
I checked Fedex Home delivery and it seems that they do deliver on MLK. Yea I was a bit worried but I know for sure that UPS works so I'm sure Fedex will too. If not, something bad might happen... :))
ah I got the all dark one since it will be on my workdesk and I was afraid it would look out of place what with the monitor and computer case all black.
I'm really starting to want a second HHKB (white with black printed caps) and I haven't even owned mine for a month yet. I really don't need a type s but I may go for it in the future.
I preferred the white one with dark legends but had to opt for dark. I'm a little bit worried about the noise it will make since I've seen this issue brought up a bit. I didn't get the type-s and it is certainly out of my $ range. I don't want to resort to lubing it since I'm a bit clumsy with those things. Not even close to MX blues though, right?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:35:42
I'm really starting to want a second HHKB (white with black printed caps) and I haven't even owned mine for a month yet. I really don't need a type s but I may go for it in the future.
I preferred the white one with dark legends but had to opt for dark. I'm a little bit worried about the noise it will make since I've seen this issue brought up a bit. I didn't get the type-s and it is certainly out of my $ range. I don't want to resort to lubing it since I'm a bit clumsy with those things. Not even close to MX blues though, right?
I plan to lube mine as soon as Bunny starts selling the Topre lube he talked about. My 55g is nowhere even close to Blues.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 18 January 2015, 12:40:27
I'm really starting to want a second HHKB (white with black printed caps) and I haven't even owned mine for a month yet. I really don't need a type s but I may go for it in the future.
I preferred the white one with dark legends but had to opt for dark. I'm a little bit worried about the noise it will make since I've seen this issue brought up a bit. I didn't get the type-s and it is certainly out of my $ range. I don't want to resort to lubing it since I'm a bit clumsy with those things. Not even close to MX blues though, right?
I plan to lube mine as soon as Bunny starts selling the Topre lube he talked about. My 55g is nowhere even close to Blues.
Hrmm.. I guess I'm just a bit scared since I'm not familiar with Topre and the price tag lol. If I have to, I'll end up lubing it.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 18 January 2015, 14:21:18
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Post by: Keybatant on Mon, 19 January 2015, 06:01:22
I'll probably end up getting a HHKB Type-S one of these days, depending if I can get used to the Infinity or not.
I did not so far ago, this "whisper" sound of it is damn addictive...
Post by: Sencha on Mon, 19 January 2015, 07:02:52
Here is my HHKB Pro 2 fitted with a set of Topre blue keycaps with some red accents.
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Nice!
Post by: monotagary on Mon, 19 January 2015, 17:58:54
The layout is so great. I love having control on my home row, and the delete/backspace above enter is so much better than standard ansi. The feel and sound is great. I was using a Realforce 87u 55g as my daily driver until I got this thing, and although I do love the Realforce, and still use it a lot at home, the HHKB feels so much better to use for long periods of time.
Having 2 USB ports is also a really nice bonus. :thumb:
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:09:54
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:11:01
Do we even need an HHKB circlejerk thread? Kinda seems like enough of that happens all around the forum :p
YES WE DO
who doesn't like masturbating with like minded gentlemen?
Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:18:06
(http://media.tumblr.com/b80d42cc8eb5492f2c380060c4cbbac2/tumblr_mnhnupgX7w1qic837o1_250.gif)Do we even need an HHKB circlejerk thread? Kinda seems like enough of that happens all around the forum :p
YES WE DO
who doesn't like masturbating with like minded gentlemen?
Post by: demik on Mon, 19 January 2015, 20:19:02
Do we even need an HHKB circlejerk thread? Kinda seems like enough of that happens all around the forum :p
YES WE DO
who doesn't like masturbating with like minded gentlemen?Show Image(http://media.tumblr.com/b80d42cc8eb5492f2c380060c4cbbac2/tumblr_mnhnupgX7w1qic837o1_250.gif)
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Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:47:23
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Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:52:06
Cute pic of my baby tucked inawwwShow Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/19/a157cefe903081217bc54cd3df4538f0.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Mon, 19 January 2015, 21:52:22
Post by: sethk_ on Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:09:15
But not enough love to get the Topre PBT bars GB to reach its MoQ :-[I signed up for that a week or two ago, but people would be more inclined for the colored ones if three were mandatory
Post by: ideus on Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:24:21
Post by: monotagary on Mon, 19 January 2015, 22:30:45
Cute pic of my baby tucked inShow Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/19/a157cefe903081217bc54cd3df4538f0.jpg)
Sleep tight, angel. :-*
Post by: TopreFan333 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 12:12:19
One concern I have is that for coding, I do a lot of Ctrl+Shift+Home/End/Page type combos for selecting lines or regions of text, and with the Fn layer, I'm still really slow at it and have to stop and think about all the keys I need to press. Hopefully this will eventually become second nature with more usage.
I'm a writer, and working through this as well with the HHKB Pro 2 I just got recently. Using a Mac, I use a lot of [alt]+left/right arrows to jump back and forth a word at a time, and add [shift] to that mix to select multiple words.
I forced myself to bang out 1000 words last night using those combos to select words instead of reverting to the mouse -- and it did become easier somewhat even just in that short time as my right hand gradually got used to the [fn] key combos for the arrows.
In time I could really see it being quite efficient because you're not moving your whole right hand over to that arrow cluster.
Right now I'm working with those brutal black "stealth" keys, which makes all this harder. I wanted a black body and white keys, so ordered a black HHKB and (separately) some white keys. The white keys haven't come yet, sadly.
Post by: saturnotaku on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:07:12
Right now I'm working with those brutal black "stealth" keys, which makes all this harder. I wanted a black body and white keys, so ordered a black HHKB and (separately) some white keys. The white keys haven't come yet, sadly.
#shouldaboughtatypes
Post by: TopreFan333 on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:25:58
#shouldaboughtatypes
I guess? I mean, the sound is just fine to me and I couldn't justify spending another $100 on an already very very expensive keyboard.
I'm going to recoup the cost of the white keys by selling the black ones, btw.
Post by: byker on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:27:20
Right now I'm working with those brutal black "stealth" keys, which makes all this harder. I wanted a black body and white keys, so ordered a black HHKB and (separately) some white keys. The white keys haven't come yet, sadly.
#shouldaboughtatypes
How would the type S fix his keys not having arrived ye?
Post by: saturnotaku on Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:27:50
I guess? I mean, the sound is just fine to me and I couldn't justify spending another $100 on an already very very expensive keyboard.
Just having a bit of fun. I well, truly, and honestly could not care less which one you prefer. The stock HHKB is perfectly fine in its own right, and if you like the sound and feel, that's all that matters. :)
How would the type S fix his keys not having arrived ye?
He was complaining about the black color of the keyboard and the keys being hard to see. Since the Type-S only comes in white, that wouldn't be an issue.
Post by: saturnotaku on Wed, 11 February 2015, 10:09:18
The Type-S has a manufacturing date of January 2014. I was worried that it might suffer from the dreaded "whistle" that's been known to plague these particular keyboards, but the one I have appears to be solid. Having typed on stock, dental banded, and Type-S HHKBs, the latter has fast become my favorite. All of the amazing Topre feels with none of the noise, and what noise it does make is music to my ears.
Post by: supersoul on Fri, 13 February 2015, 01:12:35
Post by: Hypersphere on Fri, 13 February 2015, 15:39:44
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I wasn't sure I liked the Type-S at first, because it felt and sounded as if the sliders were wrapped in tissue paper. However, the return-stroke clack of the standard model was getting increasingly annoying, so I have switched to the Type-S. Now I would like to transplant the sliders into a black case and add 55g domes.
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 13 February 2015, 16:21:05
Here is my relatively new Type-S fitted with new blue, unprinted gray, and red keycaps:
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I wasn't sure I liked the Type-S at first, because it felt and sounded as if the sliders were wrapped in tissue paper. However, the return-stroke clack of the standard model was getting increasingly annoying, so I have switched to the Type-S. Now I would like to transplant the sliders into a black case and add 55g domes.
Thing of beauty bro. I sometimes regret not getting the white HHKB, although the black one looks pretty slick from far away.
I agree about the rebound upstroke. I can't deal with it and since I have my HHKB at work, I have to silence it. The Type-S is not really an option though and I have landing pads from EK coming soon.
Post by: TopreFan333 on Sat, 14 February 2015, 10:25:30
The KUL is maybe 6 months broken in at this point, and the HHKB I've only used for *maybe* 2-3 hours of actual typing. Not sure if that's a factor at all.
Post by: sorijealut on Sat, 14 February 2015, 10:57:54
So, I'm currently bouncing back and forth between my KUL with brown switches and my new HHKB Pro 2. From what I understand, both switches are rated at 45g, but I find the HHKB keys feel like they're requiring more effort to push down. The KUL feels very light and my fingers are kind of gliding over the keys. I also have low-profile DSA keys on there, so that could have something to do with it. Anybody else have a similar experience? Do Topre switches break in at all?
The KUL is maybe 6 months broken in at this point, and the HHKB I've only used for *maybe* 2-3 hours of actual typing. Not sure if that's a factor at all.
Yep!! KUL w/ reds and HHKB here.
I've thought the same, HHKB just feels super tactile and does feel heavier than a normal 45g.
It's almost less fatiguing in a way though.
Post by: demik on Sat, 14 February 2015, 22:05:07
Post by: monotagary on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:49:52
i think the type-s is silly, unless you get it used or new a couple dollars over "regular" hhkb price.
Pretty much this. Especially considering that ironed landing pads shouldn't cost more than $15 if you want it silenced.
Post by: demik on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:53:07
but eh, to each their own.
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 15 February 2015, 01:58:50
Problem is the Type-S can be cheaper than it costs to buy a regular HHKB and a pack of Soft Landing Pads. almost everyone is buying their HHKBs from EK where the regular model costs the same if not more than the type-s would cost to import from Japan directly from PFUi think the type-s is silly, unless you get it used or new a couple dollars over "regular" hhkb price.
Pretty much this. Especially considering that ironed landing pads shouldn't cost more than $15 if you want it silenced.
Post by: Zensuji on Sun, 15 February 2015, 12:03:41
Post by: tastegod on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:37:37
Used the Apple keyboard that comes with the iMac for a few years. Then got myself a Poker 2 with MX blues for about 7 months. Purchased this about 2 weeks ago, no regrets. Don't really enjoy typing on the Poker anymore so I sold it to my friend. Really like the feel/sound of this keyboard. It's very therapeutical. ;D
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:48:45
I will say, the apple scissor switch/chiclet keyboard is my favorite nonmechanical that I have ever used.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bDm8NSw.jpg)
Used the Apple keyboard that comes with the iMac for a few years. Then got myself a Poker 2 with MX blues for about 7 months. Purchased this about 2 weeks ago, no regrets. Don't really enjoy typing on the poker anymore so I sold it to my friend. Really like the feel/sound of this keyboard. It's very therapeutical.
Post by: tastegod on Fri, 06 March 2015, 14:55:39
I will say, the apple scissor switch/chiclet keyboard is my favorite nonmechanical that I have ever used.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bDm8NSw.jpg)
Used the Apple keyboard that comes with the iMac for a few years. Then got myself a Poker 2 with MX blues for about 7 months. Purchased this about 2 weeks ago, no regrets. Don't really enjoy typing on the poker anymore so I sold it to my friend. Really like the feel/sound of this keyboard. It's very therapeutical.
I agree, they're the best non-mechanical keys imo as well. These Topre feels are something else though. It feels as if the keys are made of clay that have been run through a kiln.
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:08:18
Post by: tastegod on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:10:50
About a week ago this http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2vffpn/the_natural_course_of_buying_mechanical_keyboards (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2vffpn/the_natural_course_of_buying_mechanical_keyboards) post started to haunt my curiosity about Topre again. I remember the first day I started shopping around for mechanical keyboards, typing in "Mechanical Keybaord" into Amazon and seeing the HHKB Pro 2 on the front page with its ridiculous price tag. Ever since then it's been bugging me... "What could possibly compel a person to spend $300 on a keyboard... I watched a few vids, and read some reviews and no one seemed to regret the purchase but I just couldn't justify the price. I picked up a Poker 2 with MX Cherry Blues on /r/Mechmarket about a week later and it was simply sublime. I loved every second of it but it just felt way too loud after a while. The previous owner specifically sold it because it was "too loud". This honestly intrigued me at first because I was looking for the clickiest & clackiest thing known to man at the time to really see what everyone was raging about. Over time it became overbearing though. I spent all this money on good fans and water cooling, only to adorn my desk with a keyboard that could be heard from 40 feet away. Part of this was due to the ABS keycaps and their thin plastic, the metal plate, and the general acoustics of my room (hardwood). For the next few months I put it all behind me and basked in the glory that the German Gods of Tactility bestowed upon me.
Work started picking up and I was saving a considerable amount of my income. The price tag no longer seemed that ridiculous. The curiosity of Topre started to haunt me again. I originally wanted a Leopold FC660C but after reading reviews I went back to the HHKB pro 2; the layout really intrigued me, as did its mystique. Around the net not many seemed to prefer the FC600C over the HHKB Pro 2. I stumbled upon the Elite Keyboards website looking for an FC660C and had no luck. They did however have HHKBs in-stock for $230. I made the purchase and even splurged for the $30 pack of red and blue modifiers. It really completed the look for me as the blank model just looked far too bland. I had never typed on a keyboard without legends before but I went ahead with it to really maximize on aesthetics & force myself to learn how to properly touch-type (Currently I touch type 79WPM, but only utilize 6 fingers).
It arrived. I even splurged for the 2 day shipping (which came in 3 days and FeDex reimbursed fully since they didn't keep their promise. score). At first it was pretty damn underwhelming. It felt kind of squishy compared to my Poker and the feels just weren't there. Plus the location of the backspace was really bugging me at first, but I fought through. With each passing hour the enjoyment rose, by hour 3 the Poker 2 was no longer adequate. The characteristic that originally drew me to the Poker 2 all of a sudden became its biggest flaw; the click. After some time typing on the HHKB my brain characterized the tactile click as a feeling of the stem about to snap off as I typed. It really became unpleasant and the sharper sounds of the Poker 2 really became a nuisance. They almost felt pretentious in-a-way because of how loud they were comparably. (Keep in mind as this is a characteristic of this particular keyboard, my friend owns a Ducky with Blues and it is much quieter). Most of the time I typed with headphones on and the muffling caused by the foam on the earphones gave the Poker 2 a much more pleasant sound as it sounded "thicker, and duller". With the HHKB this was how it sounded without earphones, always thick and always pleasant.
The other characteristic that really bugged about the Poker 2 after typing on Topre was the lightness at the top of the switch. With the HHKB all of the resistance is at the top of the switch, this makes it much easier to not accidentally press the a key next to the one you're trying to hit. The Poker and HHKB are both rated at 45G but the Poker's spring-rate is only maxed-out at the bottom of the switch, whereas the HHKB has all its resistance at the top. This makes for a much safer typing experience since it feels like there's 10g of resistance on the blue switch before you reach the click.
It's been about 24 hours since I've owned this keyboard and I can safely say that I cannot stand to type on Mx Cherry blues. I feel like I would enjoy browns with PBT keys more now since after trying Topre the clicks legitimacy feel like the switch is breaking as a I type on it and it's a really unpleasant feeling.
The feels: The best comparison I can make to compare these 2 keyboards is to compare them to cars. The Poker 2 feels like a '96 Integra Type-R, fully stripped out with race suspension; super stiff and responsive with tons of feedback from the road and a tight steering rack. The HHKB feels like a 2015 BMW 5-Series with stock road suspension, straight from the lot. On the track both are equally as fast, but the BMW can drive from a day at work straight to the track and run similar lap-times without feeling all of the harsh intricacies of the road on the way there. One is fast because it's bare-bones, pure, and light; the other is faster simply because it's utilizing newer technology and better methods. The HHKB simply feels newer, more lush, more comfortable. It feels like a super car, whereas the poker feels like a stripped-out track car. Enough about analogies, in terms of actual build quality the Poker does win, the steel plate and general construction is slightly more sturdy, but I much prefer the acoustics of the plastic shell/mount on the HHKB compared to the sound of the keys reverboaring against hard steel, this was a surprise to me.
The quality of the way the keys are mounted is much higher on the HHKB, the stabilized keys are simply a joy to press, Space, Enter, and Shift in particular really have that thonk sound and it's very satisfying. The keys on the HHKB rattle a lot less and feel significantly more premium than the ones on the Poker, especially the stabilized modifiers.
In conclusion I would rate the HHKB a 9.5 out of 10. I did have to purchase some rubber feet on Amazon to keep it from sliding around and knowing that eventually my ABS spacebar will start to shine is disconcerting, especially knowing that individual white Topre spacebars can't be purchased. The lack of key sets available are also a bummer since I'd love to have a colored arrow cluster, but I might just resort to dyeing mine to my taste in the future. The layout was very easy to get to, the arrow cluster is much more friendly than the one on the Poker. Sadly, the USB Hub only proves .5A and is pretty much useless with everything I've tried.
I hope this review has been helpful to anyone on the fence about purchasing an HHKB. I say go for it, especially if you live in the states. 230 really is a good deal and if you're not a fan, for whatever reason you should only lose a few dollars reselling it on the second-hand market.
I have uploaded a video: to compare these characteristics, as well as an album http://imgur.com/a/0l8P2.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:44:02
why am i even contemplating this; i hate keyboards
Post by: saturnotaku on Sat, 07 March 2015, 16:13:47
230 really is a good deal and if you're not a fan, for whatever reason you should only lose a few dollars reselling it on the second-hand market.
For only about $20 more you can get a Type-S imported from Japan when Tenso runs a free shipping promotion.
Post by: sorijealut on Sat, 07 March 2015, 17:13:28
230 really is a good deal and if you're not a fan, for whatever reason you should only lose a few dollars reselling it on the second-hand market.
For only about $20 more you can get a Type-S imported from Japan when Tenso runs a free shipping promotion.
^Just here to echo the Tenso promotion (learned about it from Sygaldry).
I got mine recently to try out the Type-S after using the stock HHKB for a while, and I really do like the Type-S just a bit more (regular one has better sounds, but I like that typing is smoother and faster). The added silence means you can use it anywhere, and the landings seem a little softer on the fingers too.
Post by: kaisiang on Mon, 16 March 2015, 05:48:39
Post by: TopreFan333 on Sat, 13 June 2015, 12:45:09
i think the type-s is silly, unless you get it used or new a couple dollars over "regular" hhkb price.
Pretty much this. Especially considering that ironed landing pads shouldn't cost more than $15 if you want it silenced.
$15 and several hours of your time. I personally would rather work doing something else for a couple hours to offset the cost of just buying the factory-silenced version.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 13 June 2015, 18:10:35
i don't think the krytox mix is availabe anywhere so I was thinking about ordering the EK thick lube. Is this a viable alternative to lubing HHKB housing? I've modded, un-modded, and re-modded it so lots of lube has been lost lol.
I know that the EK lube 1 is not good for plastic on plastic, but would it really be an issue?
Post by: retrochick on Sat, 13 June 2015, 18:28:55
Just got a Pro 2 white blank! It's so much more fun than my Shine 3 browns.
Congrats! I got a HHKB with blanks too and it's 'fun' trying to program without letters ha! Things like the <>/?{}[]\|;" you take for granted...
Post by: Cicada88 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 01:13:45
If I understand what I've heard correctly, the shapes are different by row but the same for similar sized keys on the same row.
What about the escape key? Is it the same shape as all the keys on the number row?
Are similar sized modifiers different depending the side of the board they are on?
What about the dedicated arrow keys on the JP JIS model?
Thanks and I can't wait to get my first HHKB in the mail soon. I got a used Black Printed version but plan to mod the heavenly ****e out of it.
Post by: Cicada88 on Sun, 21 June 2015, 19:25:54
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2i9j8yr.jpg)
Just received my first HHKB (and Topre in general), and I'm loving it!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Sun, 21 June 2015, 19:43:28
(http://i.imgur.com/KgKNckg.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 21 June 2015, 22:52:55
black on black on blackShow Image(http://i59.tinypic.com/2i9j8yr.jpg)
Just received my first HHKB (and Topre in general), and I'm loving it!
Congrats on enjoying teh feeling of oneness with cup rubber :)
Post by: Rotaku on Sun, 21 June 2015, 23:38:34
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Mon, 22 June 2015, 08:02:35
I'm about a month into my 55g hhkb mod, and oh my god this is the best decision i've ever made, like ergo clears have like nothing on this
It pains me to hear this. I want to do a 55g mod so badly but damn, the cost of it.
Post by: Air tree on Mon, 22 June 2015, 08:26:59
It is really good, the 55g adds just that wanted tactility.I'm about a month into my 55g hhkb mod, and oh my god this is the best decision i've ever made, like ergo clears have like nothing on this
It pains me to hear this. I want to do a 55g mod so badly but damn, the cost of it.
Try putting up a classifieds post to trade your 45g's for some 55g's. Akimbo was a great guy and hooked me up. :)
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 23 June 2015, 01:07:47
I'm about a month into my 55g hhkb mod, and oh my god this is the best decision i've ever made, like ergo clears have like nothing on this
It pains me to hear this. I want to do a 55g mod so badly but damn, the cost of it.
That you have to sacrifice a 55g RealForce puts a lot of people off.
Post by: nmur on Tue, 23 June 2015, 02:38:58
I'm about a month into my 55g hhkb mod, and oh my god this is the best decision i've ever made, like ergo clears have like nothing on this
It pains me to hear this. I want to do a 55g mod so badly but damn, the cost of it.
That you have to sacrifice a 55g RealForce puts a lot of people off.
I've had my HHKB for around a month, and I've been dying to mod it with 30/35g's. But as you said, I am not keen on buying such an expensive donor board just for a sheet of rubber.
I don't think anyone would want to butcher their 35g board to do a dome swap with my 45g's either.
Post by: iMav on Sun, 05 July 2015, 01:42:44
Post by: Belfong on Sun, 05 July 2015, 04:30:07
Mine's been posted a lot...but here it is again...Didn't realize you are into CC too.. Very nice! I love how you did that two tone on the board.
Post by: iMav on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:50:00
Didn't realize you are into CC too.. Very nice! I love how you did that two tone on the board.
I'm not all that into them...but that one has sentimental value as CC gave it to me (along with a few others).
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:59:06
Mine's been posted a lot...but here it is again...Do you use your HHKB when traveling IMav? I remember reading you're using your Kinesis pretty much exclusively now. :)
Post by: iMav on Sun, 05 July 2015, 08:10:52
Do you use your HHKB when traveling IMav? I remember reading you're using your Kinesis pretty much exclusively now. :)
Yep. It is always in my laptop bag. I use it for all my portable keyboard needs (and use it half the time on my laptop when on the road)
I originally had a HHKB Pro (v.1), white. When I purchased the Pro v.2, that is when I combined them (and sold off the inverse creation) :)
The controller had died once, so I replaced it..otherwise, it is the same keyboard I've had since 2007.
Post by: demik on Sun, 05 July 2015, 12:44:57
Post by: Air tree on Sun, 05 July 2015, 12:53:08
Another relevant time for this .gif :)
Post by: Agarito on Sat, 17 October 2015, 11:25:32
Does anyone know if the "whistle" noise on the hhkb2 type-s has been fixed? If not, is PFU working on fixing it?
Looking to purchase a type s once the issue has been solved.
THanks
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 17 October 2015, 11:35:16
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 17 October 2015, 12:28:02
Post by: byker on Sat, 17 October 2015, 12:44:07
Just swapped the caps on my Type-S, it really is a sweet little board.
Hell yeah it is! ;D
Post by: tararais on Sat, 17 October 2015, 12:58:24
Just swapped the caps on my Type-S, it really is a sweet little board.
Top notch board in terms of feel, only gripe is a slightly loose edge.
Post by: Cafeine on Tue, 20 October 2015, 11:50:05
(http://i.imgur.com/S8l20KB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9VqCEsV.jpg)
Still love the FC660C (I modded both) but the sexyness of the HHKB is forever. ;)
Post by: Sinzz on Fri, 23 October 2015, 15:46:04
(http://i.imgur.com/PcuHF0Y.jpg)
Post by: Altis on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:47:32
Here it is with some other Topre boards (and some not)...
(http://s16.postimg.org/aoee625hx/Keyboards_1.jpg)
Funny thing is that after two decades of the standard layout, the backspace key took me no time to get used to and now I struggle with it on other keyboards. I didn't expect to enjoy the layout very much but to my surprise I quite do, especially the arrow cluster. I'd prefer Control to be in the bottom-left corner, still, as I find it awkward to use the Ctrl+Z/X/C/V keys.dd
The only thing is that it's quite a bit louder and less smooth than the Realforce 87U. In particular, the central keys are very 'clackey' compared with the outer keys, making typing sound more noticeable to others. My left shift key is noticeably darker than the others, as is 'F' and 'J' and kind of '.'. The stabilizers are pretty much silent, which is quite rare for any board. The edges on the left and right side of the top case overhang the bottom a bit, feeling kind of sharp when you move it around from the sides.
The weighting is about just perfect for me, and it feels a touch heavier than the 45g uniform 87U. The typing angle is oddly steep (as you can kind of see in the photo above), though I haven't really found this to be an issue yet.
I'll keep breaking it in and seeing how it is. Despite some flaws, it's one of the only keyboards I'd describe as "fun" to type on. Perhaps some of that is for having to figure out some of the key combinations needed (such as Ctrl+Shift+Fn+K to highlight the line up to the cursor).
Post by: Macsmasher on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:02:10
The weighting is about just perfect for me, and it feels a touch heavier than the 45g uniform 87U. The typing angle is oddly steep (as you can kind of see in the photo above), though I haven't really found this to be an issue yet.
I found the typing angle a bit steep as well. So I went to Home Depot and bought some 1/2" cabinet door bumpers similar to these...
http://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Hardware-9967-Surface-Adhesive/dp/B007ZUENG0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445637419&sr=8-2&keywords=cabinet+door+bumpers+1%2F2+inch (http://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Hardware-9967-Surface-Adhesive/dp/B007ZUENG0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445637419&sr=8-2&keywords=cabinet+door+bumpers+1%2F2+inch)
I put those on the front and 2mm bumpers on the back. It helped a lot. Also stays put on my desk better than the stock rubber strips.
Post by: meow a cat on Fri, 23 October 2015, 17:09:32
Nice pictures guys.
Post by: Altis on Fri, 23 October 2015, 18:18:37
I found the typing angle a bit steep as well. So I went to Home Depot and bought some 1/2" cabinet door bumpers similar to these...
http://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Hardware-9967-Surface-Adhesive/dp/B007ZUENG0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445637419&sr=8-2&keywords=cabinet+door+bumpers+1%2F2+inch (http://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Hardware-9967-Surface-Adhesive/dp/B007ZUENG0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1445637419&sr=8-2&keywords=cabinet+door+bumpers+1%2F2+inch)
I put those on the front and 2mm bumpers on the back. It helped a lot. Also stays put on my desk better than the stock rubber strips.
That's a good idea. I was thinking of adding some foam strips to the bottom to both reduce the angle slightly and to silence it more.
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
Post by: Macsmasher on Fri, 23 October 2015, 19:25:51
That's a good idea. I was thinking of adding some foam strips to the bottom to both reduce the angle slightly and to silence it more.
The problem with foam is it's designed to compress. The rubber door bumpers provide a bit of give without compressing. The other nice thing is they're cheap and easy to peal off if you don't like them.
Post by: Altis on Sat, 24 October 2015, 09:29:11
That's a good idea. I was thinking of adding some foam strips to the bottom to both reduce the angle slightly and to silence it more.
The problem with foam is it's designed to compress. The rubber door bumpers provide a bit of give without compressing. The other nice thing is they're cheap and easy to peal off if you don't like them.
What I mean by foam is yoga mat-like material. Not soft enough to compress while typing but soft enough to really dampen the sound.
Post by: meow a cat on Sat, 24 October 2015, 13:12:30
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 24 October 2015, 14:27:08
It was time to swap some keys around. :)
the options.. :eek:
nice collection!
Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
after using silenced topre, i don't think i can even go back to non-silenced topre :x
the difference is actually quite big between silenced and non-silenced.
(and silencing totally rocks with one of those PBT spacebars from massdrop!)
here's a good video that demonstrates the sound of a stock hhkb vs type-s hhkb vs dental band modded hhkb:
Here it is with some other Topre boards (and some not)...
i did the same thing where i swapped the cases :D
i think the black keycaps on white case looks pretty disgusting though ;p but i really dig the grey + white caps on the black case : )
i use the red esc as well, but also added a red spacebar. looks so sweet together!
my hhkb should be arriving next week.. : ) a type-s with white (blank) keycaps. already have my hasu controller ready!
also gonna slam on a blue PBT spacebar and blank blue LE esc.
:D
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 26 October 2015, 06:21:53
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
I find my HHKB pretty noisy - nowhere near as noisy as an MX Blue board or anything like that though - but definitely louder than a regular membrane keyboard that most people use
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 28 October 2015, 04:45:18
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
I find my HHKB pretty noisy - nowhere near as noisy as an MX Blue board or anything like that though - but definitely louder than a regular membrane keyboard that most people use
Try sitting it on a folded sheet of drawer liner. It makes a huge difference to the noise - removes nearly all the bottom out sound and you've just left with the lovely up-thock.
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 28 October 2015, 05:18:59
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
I find my HHKB pretty noisy - nowhere near as noisy as an MX Blue board or anything like that though - but definitely louder than a regular membrane keyboard that most people use
Try sitting it on a folded sheet of drawer liner. It makes a huge difference to the noise - removes nearly all the bottom out sound and you've just left with the lovely up-thock.
I'll give it a try :D
Post by: tararais on Wed, 28 October 2015, 05:57:13
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
I find my HHKB pretty noisy - nowhere near as noisy as an MX Blue board or anything like that though - but definitely louder than a regular membrane keyboard that most people use
Try sitting it on a folded sheet of drawer liner. It makes a huge difference to the noise - removes nearly all the bottom out sound and you've just left with the lovely up-thock.
I'll give it a try :D
Man, you guys are lucky. I gotta plop mine down on a fat metal laptop, but at least there's more thock, right? RIGHT?
Post by: iss on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:02:15
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 28 October 2015, 18:56:52
in comparison, they're scratchy in sound and feel. i'll probably open some switches up to 'investigate' what the cause is, exactly.
i'm also wondering if different silencing material is used..?
Post by: Altis on Wed, 28 October 2015, 20:42:32
my hhkb type-s switches feel and sound so much different from the 55g type-s switches of my RF87U.
in comparison, they're scratchy in sound and feel. i'll probably open some switches up to 'investigate' what the cause is, exactly.
i'm also wondering if different silencing material is used..?
Not sure about the type-S variants, but my regular HHKB P2 is scratchier in both feel and sound than either of my 87Us as well.
Post by: Air tree on Thu, 29 October 2015, 05:09:23
my hhkb type-s switches feel and sound so much different from the 55g type-s switches of my RF87U.Ask dustin what he thinks, he used realforce silenced sliders in his HHKB one upon a time and maybe he could shine some light on the subject.
in comparison, they're scratchy in sound and feel. i'll probably open some switches up to 'investigate' what the cause is, exactly.
i'm also wondering if different silencing material is used..?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 29 October 2015, 05:13:06
This thread isn't helping me resist buying an HHKB.. I really want one, mainly for school, but I'm a bit afraid to go down the Topre rabbit hole. :))
Nice pictures guys.
It might be a tad loud for classroom environment. The 87U is quite a bit quieter, though larger as well.
I'm going to experiment to see if sound deadening inside the case helps, and perhaps lubing the stems.
I already have four TKL boards, so if I go for a Topre it will probably be the HHKB even though I love the look of the RealForce 87s. TKL is great with my laptop, but takes up a lot of space in my backpack. Do you think it's louder than an MX board? I've silenced my Phantom that I bring with me to school with lube/o-rings/shelf liner, and it's now quieter than the rubber domes on the computers in the classroom. Perhaps I can do some Topre silencing to get the noise down? Or spring for the Type-S maybe.
I find my HHKB pretty noisy - nowhere near as noisy as an MX Blue board or anything like that though - but definitely louder than a regular membrane keyboard that most people use
Try sitting it on a folded sheet of drawer liner. It makes a huge difference to the noise - removes nearly all the bottom out sound and you've just left with the lovely up-thock.
I'll give it a try :D
I got mine from the Reject Shop, a small roll of it folded so I have actually 8 layers of drawer liner :))
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 31 October 2015, 16:57:28
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Post by: olijuice on Sat, 31 October 2015, 20:38:03
I then bought a 55g RF 87U with Mat3o's spacebars and a barebones Novatouch from Massdrop a few weeks ago. I swapped the domes on the RF and I put them on the HHKB and I am really really loving them right now. I haven't done a stem swap on the HHKB yet but I plan on doing that some day.
There is something really enjoyable at work when I am on a roll typing on a 55g HHKB and the keys just bounce right back; it's like typing on little tiny pogo sticks lol.
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 31 October 2015, 21:44:03
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Sat, 31 October 2015, 22:16:22
55g HHKB best HHKB. ^-^
Indeed it is I just swapped mine out last week and it is like heaven. Type - S ftw.
(http://i.imgur.com/1B770Tz.jpg?1)
All SnacKeyed up!
Post by: Cicada88 on Sun, 01 November 2015, 11:27:36
Some dude I talk to all the time that is super famous says HHKBs hurt his poor little girly hands after an hour.
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Not sure if you are serious or joking, but I would definitely unfriend him. I'm not sure I would cut off all communication.
Post by: absyrd on Sun, 01 November 2015, 11:29:56
Some dude I talk to all the time that is super famous says HHKBs hurt his poor little girly hands after an hour.
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Not sure if you are serious or joking, but I would definitely unfriend him. I'm not sure I would cut off all communication.
Totally serious. This guy... he is like the knower of all things known about keyboards... and he can't even type on a HHKB.
I linked him my previous post and he has yet to contact me. He may have unfriended me for calling him out on being a ****. Oh well.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 01 November 2015, 11:57:06
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 02 November 2015, 12:37:28
Some dude I talk to all the time that is super famous says HHKBs hurt his poor little girly hands after an hour.
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Not sure if you are serious or joking, but I would definitely unfriend him. I'm not sure I would cut off all communication.
Totally serious. This guy... he is like the knower of all things known about keyboards... and he can't even type on a HHKB.
I linked him my previous post and he has yet to contact me. He may have unfriended me for calling him out on being a ****. Oh well.
I know the man you speak of, I think his Alps and IMB collections make up for his lack of enlightenment. But you could still unfriend him just to be safe.
Post by: mszy52 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 18:44:49
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:30:49
How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Post by: mszy52 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:35:00
lol is it worth the learning curve for the new board?How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Post by: Bomble on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:41:56
lol is it worth the learning curve for the new board?How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Yes. If you can afford it and are interested, buy one. I got mine almost by accident because I came across a great deal while I was actually seaching for a Poker II, and it was my first topre board too. I haven't bought anything non-topre since that happened over a year ago.
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:47:53
lol is it worth the learning curve for the new board?How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Lol :)) Is it worth it on a thread called HHKB Pro 2 Love? Yeah man, I think a lot of us would tell you it is but we all drank the Kool-aid. I got lucky as well and was able to pick mine up at a good deal. The nice thing if you don't care for it or can't get used to it is that you will usually just be out shipping as they hold their value and sell fast.
Post by: mszy52 on Mon, 02 November 2015, 19:49:57
Lol okay thanks bro, ill look into these boards soonlol is it worth the learning curve for the new board?How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Lol :)) Is it worth it on a thread called HHKB Pro 2 Love? Yeah man, I think a lot of us would tell you it is but we all drank the Kool-aid. I got lucky as well and was able to pick mine up at a good deal. The nice thing if you don't care for it or can't get used to it is that you will usually just be out shipping as they hold their value and sell fast.
Post by: agbockus on Tue, 03 November 2015, 01:29:30
I'm in the same position as OP - except it's been around a month...and mines had a bunch of issues. But through all of the issues I have, I can't stand typing on anything else now. Which is extremely dangerous with how expensive these dang boards are...I'm thinking about saving up and buying one of the knock-offs to see how they fair...the RK TKL one to be precise...but I just can't get over that they're not real Topre and it's certainly not the amazing HHKB layout...Lol okay thanks bro, ill look into these boards soonlol is it worth the learning curve for the new board?How do you feel about the lack of ctl and other keys being where they usually are on this board?
Two weeks of using it and you will think other boards layout is weird and you will wonder why CapsLock exists on any keyboard.
Lol :)) Is it worth it on a thread called HHKB Pro 2 Love? Yeah man, I think a lot of us would tell you it is but we all drank the Kool-aid. I got lucky as well and was able to pick mine up at a good deal. The nice thing if you don't care for it or can't get used to it is that you will usually just be out shipping as they hold their value and sell fast.
Post by: keyboardia1 on Tue, 03 November 2015, 02:13:36
Post by: Bartlebum on Tue, 03 November 2015, 10:16:24
Post by: Macsmasher on Tue, 03 November 2015, 13:28:08
I've got my Type-S last week and i'm lovin' it. It sounds (no whistling sound as far as i can tell) and feels perfect and the layout is just right . Bascially not having to leave the homerow to use the arrows is awesome.
You must have the left Win key set up as a Fn key. I almost sold my HHKB until I switched to Fn, which allowed my to use the nav keys without leaving home row. (I still occasionally use the right Fn key with my pinkie finger and navigate and have no problem switching between the two methods.) When highlighting text to copy / cut, I use my thumb on left Fn and toggle Shift and Control with index and middle fingers. Right hand stays on home row and operates Home / End / PgUp / PgDn / Arrows. Works great for me. I had to get used to not having a left Win key, but the trade off was worth it.
Post by: MeltingTeeth on Tue, 03 November 2015, 14:31:36
Some dude I talk to all the time that is super famous says HHKBs hurt his poor little girly hands after an hour.
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Not sure if you are serious or joking, but I would definitely unfriend him. I'm not sure I would cut off all communication.
Totally serious. This guy... he is like the knower of all things known about keyboards... and he can't even type on a HHKB.
I linked him my previous post and he has yet to contact me. He may have unfriended me for calling him out on being a ****. Oh well.
Well, I DO find I bottom out a lot. That adds up to some discomfort.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 04 November 2015, 04:04:34
Some dude I talk to all the time that is super famous says HHKBs hurt his poor little girly hands after an hour.
Should I unfriend him and cut off all communication?
Not sure if you are serious or joking, but I would definitely unfriend him. I'm not sure I would cut off all communication.
Totally serious. This guy... he is like the knower of all things known about keyboards... and he can't even type on a HHKB.
I linked him my previous post and he has yet to contact me. He may have unfriended me for calling him out on being a ****. Oh well.
Well, I DO find I bottom out a lot. That adds up to some discomfort.
I bottom out all the time, and it feels so good :)
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 05 November 2015, 09:40:16
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Post by: byker on Thu, 05 November 2015, 12:29:06
I have a white printed HHKB on the way! It's a bit of an oddball though, a Pro 2 in a Type-S case.
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Congrats! Just be sure to give it time. Topre is often an acquired taste I find, many friends have given up on it too soon.
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 05 November 2015, 12:33:44
I have a white printed HHKB on the way! It's a bit of an oddball though, a Pro 2 in a Type-S case.
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Congrats! Just be sure to give it time. Topre is often an acquired taste I find, many friends have given up on it too soon.
It's either that, or you fall in love instantly <3
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Thu, 05 November 2015, 13:35:22
I have a white printed HHKB on the way! It's a bit of an oddball though, a Pro 2 in a Type-S case.
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Why is that an oddball my pro2 is a Type-S as well.
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 05 November 2015, 14:47:05
I have a white printed HHKB on the way! It's a bit of an oddball though, a Pro 2 in a Type-S case.
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Why is that an oddball my pro2 is a Type-S as well.
It's not a Type-S, just a Pro 2. But it's in a Type-S case.
I have a white printed HHKB on the way! It's a bit of an oddball though, a Pro 2 in a Type-S case.
Excited to drink the kool-aid, I haven't tried Topre switches or HHKB layout yet.
Congrats! Just be sure to give it time. Topre is often an acquired taste I find, many friends have given up on it too soon.
Thanks Byker, I've been wanting to try Topre for a long time now. I think I'll like them, I'm imagining them as feeling like piano keys or something. :))
I kind of wanted a RealForce 87, but I have too many TKLs, and the HHKB can have Hasu's controller.. programmability is a big plus for me!
It's going to be a long wait waiting for it to get here. Now I just need to get my hands on a Topre Bro Gamer Set.. soo nice.
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 05 November 2015, 15:38:43
the flexibility of a programmable controller is just needed to make good use of a small keyboard like this.
besides, i think the stock Fn layer is pretty stupid, and the Fn key is positioned poorly, relative to the design of the Fn layer..
gotta say though, that this is the only keyboard i've ever owned that i'd actually call fun.
blank caps and hasu's controller; it's just so much fun to play around the layout and not ever having legends that are 'wrong'.
at first, i was thinking of going for the JP and then use something like AutoHotKey, but i'm glad i learned of hasu's controller and went with the blank HHKB : )
It's not a Type-S, just a Pro 2. But it's in a Type-S case.i guess someone preferred the 'cleaner' look of the non-Type-S case? : )
well, i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:12:22
i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
wouldn't a modded regular HHKB have a shorter throw than a Type-S as the sliders in the Type-S are longer to allow for o-ring clearance. I know that it is only a small difference, but, still a difference in the key stroke.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:13:18
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:24:53
Can someone explain me how you position your hand and what fingers you use for arrows?
I usually use my right pinky to hold the fn key then use my index finger on the arrow key I want.
If your hands are to big, maybe using your right ring finger for the fn could be more comfortable.
Post by: alexjd99 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 16:26:47
Can someone explain me how you position your hand and what fingers you use for arrows?Pinky on fn, index and middle on left and right. I used middle for up and index for down
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 05 November 2015, 17:28:47
i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
wouldn't a modded regular HHKB have a shorter throw than a Type-S as the sliders in the Type-S are longer to allow for o-ring clearance. I know that it is only a small difference, but, still a difference in the key stroke.
i guess that's true, but i've seen people say that you can minimize it by picking the right material and then ironing it flatter.
but yeah, i suppose you do lose a little bit of distance... : )
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 05 November 2015, 17:53:48
Post by: zslane on Thu, 05 November 2015, 19:02:24
Post by: Bomble on Thu, 05 November 2015, 19:09:00
Can the top right corner of an HHKB be set up like a normal ANSI board with a 2u BACKSPACE and a 1.5u |\ key below it?
That is the case on the Japanese version, other than that, you'd have to use some software remapping or Hasu's controller.
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 05 November 2015, 21:57:33
i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
wouldn't a modded regular HHKB have a shorter throw than a Type-S as the sliders in the Type-S are longer to allow for o-ring clearance. I know that it is only a small difference, but, still a difference in the key stroke.
i guess that's true, but i've seen people say that you can minimize it by picking the right material and then ironing it flatter.
but yeah, i suppose you do lose a little bit of distance... : )
Yeah, ironing the Elite Keyboards landing pads makes the distance pretty much negligible, basically the thickness of paper (there's a topic about it on the Keyboards subforum, except it's labeled as an FC660C silencing mod). It takes some effort to actually do it right but it's worthwhile. I have a type-s but I applied the mod to a realforce and in hindsight I could have just saved the money by buying a regular HHKB. Oh well.
Post by: alexjd99 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 00:04:07
These are supposed to make little to no effect on keystroke. I'm getting some soon to try out soon. http://www.ebay.com/itm/63-Silencing-Rings-for-Topre-Switch-Keyboards/252150745298?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33430%26meid%3Dfb00b981934d4a5b97e042d07a993f93%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252113596134i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
wouldn't a modded regular HHKB have a shorter throw than a Type-S as the sliders in the Type-S are longer to allow for o-ring clearance. I know that it is only a small difference, but, still a difference in the key stroke.
i guess that's true, but i've seen people say that you can minimize it by picking the right material and then ironing it flatter.
but yeah, i suppose youlose a little bit of distance... : )
Yeah, ironing the Elite Keyboards landing pads makes the distance pretty much negligible, basically the thickness of paper (there's a topic about it on the Keyboards subforum, except it's labeled as an FC660C silencing mod). It takes some effort to actuallyit right but it's worthwhile. I have a type-s but I applied the mod to a realforce and in hindsight I could have just saved the money by buying a regular HHKB. Oh well.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 06 November 2015, 04:12:45
I was curious, has anyone tried shelf liner in their HHKB? Is there room for it? If so, does it quiet the board at all?
I have a folded sheet of it underneath, and it really does dampen the sound. I have not tried putting any inside.
The beauty is that I can simply remove the drawer liner (or shelf liner) and instantly increase the thock!
Post by: meow a cat on Fri, 06 November 2015, 04:18:18
I was curious, has anyone tried shelf liner in their HHKB? Is there room for it? If so, does it quiet the board at all?
I have a folded sheet of it underneath, and it really does dampen the sound. I have not tried putting any inside.
The beauty is that I can simply remove the drawer liner (or shelf liner) and instantly increase the thock!
I've seen that, I will have to give it a try!
I do have a desk mat though, so that might give the same effect.
I was thinking, if I can put some inside that would be better on the go, so I don't have to carry around shelf liner with me at school and such. :)) I might have to go for silencing rings or dental bands or something instead, if it turns out to be a little too loud.
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 06 November 2015, 04:50:20
Post by: beehatch on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:00:35
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:02:31
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:14:20
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
Sounds like some dominatrix ****
Post by: beehatch on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:15:08
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
Sounds like some dominatrix ****
Please, latex gloves.
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:16:34
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
Sounds like some dominatrix ****
Please, latex gloves.
I hope your HHKB is lubed
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Post by: beehatch on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:17:41
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
Sounds like some dominatrix ****
Please, latex gloves.
I hope your HHKB is lubed
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You know it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Post by: meow a cat on Fri, 06 November 2015, 05:33:46
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
Silencing could be the difference between being able to use it outside of home, and not. I'll do a test run to see if I get any complaints, but I can see how it would be annoying to have a loud keyboard typing while everyone else is quietly writing notes. I'm the only person in my classes right now who likes to type notes. :))
Post by: keshley on Fri, 06 November 2015, 06:19:29
Also, different strokes for different folks. Its not a hard concept :P
My silenced HHKB has plenty of audible thock, its not like it disappears magically. Still sounds leagues better than the Gaterons I'm typing on now.
Post by: absyrd on Fri, 06 November 2015, 06:39:23
I don't understand people who complain about silencing something that makes noise. Some of us work with media a lot, and the keyboard sound detracts from it. Also, some of us have our computers in a public area of our workspace/livingspace. You know, where other people might complain about noise. Also, I bought my keyboard to type, not to listen to.
Also, different strokes for different folks. Its not a hard concept :P
My silenced HHKB has plenty of audible thock, its not like it disappears magically. Still sounds leagues better than the Gaterons I'm typing on now.
I'm not COMPLAINING about anyone silencing it. Stock HHKB is quieter than your standard, rattly cheap RD is all I'm saying. I would not be concerned about using it in an office environment.
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 06 November 2015, 06:53:13
Since then I've been alternating between my Type-S and 55g silenced one.
Post by: TopreFan333 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 16:11:24
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
Silencing could be the difference between being able to use it outside of home, and not. I'll do a test run to see if I get any complaints, but I can see how it would be annoying to have a loud keyboard typing while everyone else is quietly writing notes. I'm the only person in my classes right now who likes to type notes. :))
I think it really depends on the context. In my office, I find that the difference between my Type Heaven and my coworkers' Dell or whatever is pretty minimal. In a classroom where everyone else is just listening to the lecture and writing notes by hand, I could see even a fairly quiet keyboard being a nuisance. Myself, I prefer to focus in and maybe handwrite a few selected notes, myself, vs trying to get everything down typing.
Post by: dan002 on Fri, 06 November 2015, 19:55:25
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Sat, 07 November 2015, 09:01:29
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:02:42
Can someone enlighten me to why Hypersphere rings are better and why they are so expensive. Or, kindly point me to the thread where it explains it?It affects travel distance less than landing pads and dental bands. I have no idea why it's so expensive, but it's much cheaper than a $60 price difference between the Type S and regular
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Sat, 07 November 2015, 10:17:02
Can someone enlighten me to why Hypersphere rings are better and why they are so expensive. Or, kindly point me to the thread where it explains it?It affects travel distance less than landing pads and dental bands. I have no idea why it's so expensive, but it's much cheaper than a $60 price difference between the Type S and regular
Not by much .40 a ring on Ebay. I was just curious about it was looking to silence my RF87 I was thinking that it was pretty steep.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 07 November 2015, 11:19:55
Post by: Macsmasher on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:08:19
i'd advise people to get a non-Type-S, anyway. it's too late for myself, but i'm convinced you can get the same quality dampening for a lot cheaper than the Type-S.
wouldn't a modded regular HHKB have a shorter throw than a Type-S as the sliders in the Type-S are longer to allow for o-ring clearance. I know that it is only a small difference, but, still a difference in the key stroke.
According to PFU, key travel on the standard HHKB is 4mm and 3.8mm on the Type-S. I interpret that to mean there is no difference in the sliders or case and that the factory foam rings are .2mm thick. I could be wrong with my assumption. But the key travels are listed on their website.
Post by: demik on Sat, 07 November 2015, 21:14:07
I still don't understand the desire to silence a HHKB. The sound of the thock is pleasant. What is 235982095820875 more times annoying is someone with fingernails on a cheap rubber dome.
I silenced mine. H8 me bro.
Why don't you wear leather gloves, too? That'll help dampen the sound.
then take them off and slap yourself for ruining a stock hhkb
Post by: Bucake on Sun, 08 November 2015, 00:05:18
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 08 November 2015, 00:07:05
silenced topre forever
No! Keep the thock!
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 08 November 2015, 12:12:51
silenced topre forever
No! Keep the thock!
Silencing doesn't remove the thock of the downstroke, just quiets the higher pitched clack of the upstroke. Unless I've been wrong this whole time and people consider the topre thock to be the upstroke sound.
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 08 November 2015, 12:25:36
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/What-would-you-like-to-ask-Professor-Eiiti-Wada-creator-of-the-HHKB
Post by: Sinzz on Mon, 09 November 2015, 00:33:18
I think this might be something worth posting here
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/What-would-you-like-to-ask-Professor-Eiiti-Wada-creator-of-the-HHKB
Did this ever happen? Anyone have a link to that interview?
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 09 November 2015, 01:01:26
I think this might be something worth posting here
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/What-would-you-like-to-ask-Professor-Eiiti-Wada-creator-of-the-HHKB
Did this ever happen? Anyone have a link to that interview?
I believe that it is a work in progress
Post by: ccc24 on Mon, 09 November 2015, 18:10:26
sorry for the phone pics.
Post by: venyv on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:02:07
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:31:30
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:49:00
Reading all these cult like posts makes me want to get a HHKB. Just wish I could try one before buying. Does it take long to get used to the layout?
I'd say give it a week and you should have it down - depends of course if you are going to use other keyboards during that time.
I always find that the transition back to other boards is actually the hard part - especially with backspace
Post by: tchevass on Tue, 10 November 2015, 19:57:58
I am a Linux admin and the board really feels like it was made for linux/unix.
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 10 November 2015, 20:03:19
Reading all these cult like posts makes me want to get a HHKB. Just wish I could try one before buying. Does it take long to get used to the layout?
I'd say give it a week and you should have it down - depends of course if you are going to use other keyboards during that time.
I always find that the transition back to other boards is actually the hard part - especially with backspace
And this is the reason I changed Backslash to backspace on all my other keyboards.
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 10 November 2015, 20:11:13
Reading all these cult like posts makes me want to get a HHKB. Just wish I could try one before buying. Does it take long to get used to the layout?
I'd say give it a week and you should have it down - depends of course if you are going to use other keyboards during that time.
I always find that the transition back to other boards is actually the hard part - especially with backspace
And this is the reason I changed Backslash to backspace on all my other keyboards.
I actually think that the backspace position is more of an advantage than Control key positioning
Post by: alexjd99 on Tue, 10 November 2015, 20:50:33
Reading all these cult like posts makes me want to get a HHKB. Just wish I could try one before buying. Does it take long to get used to the layout?Took me probably two days of use to get to the layout. It takes probably less than a minute of typing to get used to changed backspace/ control, but I do prefer the HHKB's layout overall.
Just do it, you won't regret it ;)
Post by: slushi on Tue, 10 November 2015, 21:33:05
:blank:
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 10 November 2015, 21:45:59
I bought one a couple days ago and it'll arrive tomorrow. I'm super psyched but kinda afraid that I won't like MX anymore since I'm in the Orion V2 GB.
:blank:
I still love my ergo clears even though I really like my HHKB :thumb:
Post by: Bomble on Tue, 10 November 2015, 23:08:36
Reading all these cult like posts makes me want to get a HHKB. Just wish I could try one before buying. Does it take long to get used to the layout?
I went straight from TKL > HHKB and honestly by the end of an evening of using it I was already used to the layout. Now that I've learned it I can switch back and forth pretty seamlessly too.
DO IT
Post by: slushi on Wed, 11 November 2015, 15:01:14
Here's a quick snapshot with my desk setup:
(http://i.imgur.com/5Vb64ds.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 12 November 2015, 04:00:48
Just got my HHKB and I think this may be the beginning of the end. The thock is so very very very nice.
Here's a quick snapshot with my desk setup:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5Vb64ds.jpg)
Congratulations and welcome to the club :)
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 12 November 2015, 11:13:37
Post by: slushi on Thu, 12 November 2015, 11:34:36
Just got my HHKB and I think this may be the beginning of the end. The thock is so very very very nice.
Here's a quick snapshot with my desk setup:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5Vb64ds.jpg)
Congratulations and welcome to the club :)
Thanks! I am already having an HHKB hangover since I am actually in the office today and only have my company macbook.
Also, I just bought a novatouch for a stem swap. I've been reading threads around here and reddit and I just want some senior members to confirm/answer a quick question about the swap:
The non-spacebar stabilizer keys can have the housing taken out completely and swapped with the novatouch ones so I don't have to drill holes? I'm a little confused because some have said that the housings are all part of the case for the HHKB.
Post by: MagicSauce on Fri, 13 November 2015, 14:05:42
just pmed somebody on reddit about their hhkb pro2... hopefully it goes through haha :p
Good luck!
Post by: meow a cat on Fri, 13 November 2015, 14:58:30
The layout is also amazing, and I've already adjusted to the new backspace location. The arrows and navigation cluster are actually pretty intuitive, which I wasn't expecting.
I'm afraid of hitting \ instead of backspace on my MX boards though, but it's probably worth it for these feels.
Post by: phosphoric on Sat, 14 November 2015, 04:21:43
thanks! i actually paid on thursday and the keyboard is in the mail. eta is monday!!! i'll check back in when it gets herejust pmed somebody on reddit about their hhkb pro2... hopefully it goes through haha :p
Good luck!
Post by: olijuice on Sat, 14 November 2015, 21:13:10
But at work I have this guy :thumb: He is a dome swapped 55g with Matt3o's PBT spacebar. I have a NovaTouch that I plan to someday swap the stems, but not yet. Right now I like the keys that I'm using.
I also purchased some of Hypersphere's silencing rings from eBay. I installed it on just the spacebar and on the left Alt key just to see how they would feel. Popping out those sliders was a really scary experience for me lol, so I don't want to do a full set until I at least replace the sliders with the MX ones from the NovaTouch.
(http://i.imgur.com/qXGvBWL.jpg)
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 14 November 2015, 21:18:09
I just wanted to share my work keyboard. At home I'm playing around with a Cherry brown and clear and a Matias quiet click to get a feel for which I like best.
But at work I have this guy :thumb: He is a dome swapped 55g with Matt3o's PBT spacebar. I have a NovaTouch that I plan to someday swap the stems, but not yet. Right now I like the keys that I'm using.
I also purchased some of Hypersphere's silencing rings from eBay. I installed it on just the spacebar and on the left Alt key just to see how they would feel. Popping out those sliders was a really scary experience for me lol, so I don't want to do a full set until I at least replace the sliders with the MX ones from the NovaTouch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qXGvBWL.jpg)
I was scared to do my first silencing rings mod as well but got used to it and learn that the best way to pop those sliders out is to clip the little tabs with a pliers first. The sliders will fall off easily after that.
Post by: olijuice on Sat, 14 November 2015, 21:24:29
I just wanted to share my work keyboard. At home I'm playing around with a Cherry brown and clear and a Matias quiet click to get a feel for which I like best.
But at work I have this guy :thumb: He is a dome swapped 55g with Matt3o's PBT spacebar. I have a NovaTouch that I plan to someday swap the stems, but not yet. Right now I like the keys that I'm using.
I also purchased some of Hypersphere's silencing rings from eBay. I installed it on just the spacebar and on the left Alt key just to see how they would feel. Popping out those sliders was a really scary experience for me lol, so I don't want to do a full set until I at least replace the sliders with the MX ones from the NovaTouch.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qXGvBWL.jpg)
I was scared to do my first silencing rings mod as well but got used to it and learn that the best way to pop those sliders out is to clip the little tabs with a pliers first. The sliders will fall off easily after that.
Thanks. I probably need to try that. Because I have no experience I was doing it a really dumb way.. like really dumb but it worked. I held the keyboard vertical against my chest with my left hand. I had a screwdriver between my chin and the top of the key for "light" pressure. finally with another screwdriver in my right hand i pushed on that little pin and the pressure from the screwdriver on my chin made the slider fall out. The first time right on the floor, the second time i did it directly over my kitchen table top.
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 14 November 2015, 21:41:43
Post by: phosphoric on Mon, 16 November 2015, 16:32:02
Post by: phosphoric on Mon, 16 November 2015, 16:38:19
just got it in the mail today. not gonna lie, i'm quite underwhelmed. typing on it is nice, and i think it's gonna make a nice gaming board if nothing else, but i think i just gotta give it some time to adjust. i keep hitting ` when i try to backspace. hopefully some cool keycaps are made in the near future so i can deck out my hhkb. i also gotta relearn the modifiers. i think the pok3r's layout is much more intuitive, but trying new things is always fun!just kidding... i got up to go get the mail and found myself pulling back towards my computer because i didn't want to stop typing on this keyboard. but then again, this is an issue with all of my keyboards... that feel
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 16 November 2015, 16:38:28
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 17 November 2015, 04:05:10
just got it in the mail today. not gonna lie, i'm quite underwhelmed. typing on it is nice, and i think it's gonna make a nice gaming board if nothing else, but i think i just gotta give it some time to adjust. i keep hitting ` when i try to backspace. hopefully some cool keycaps are made in the near future so i can deck out my hhkb. i also gotta relearn the modifiers. i think the pok3r's layout is much more intuitive, but trying new things is always fun!just kidding... i got up to go get the mail and found myself pulling back towards my computer because i didn't want to stop typing on this keyboard. but then again, this is an issue with all of my keyboards... that feel
Hmmm ... give yourself a week or two of using it exclusively, ideally, or as much as you can, to become accustomed to the layout. And the feel. And the oneness with cup rubber.
Post by: meow a cat on Tue, 17 November 2015, 04:21:57
just got it in the mail today. not gonna lie, i'm quite underwhelmed. typing on it is nice, and i think it's gonna make a nice gaming board if nothing else, but i think i just gotta give it some time to adjust. i keep hitting ` when i try to backspace. hopefully some cool keycaps are made in the near future so i can deck out my hhkb. i also gotta relearn the modifiers. i think the pok3r's layout is much more intuitive, but trying new things is always fun!just kidding... i got up to go get the mail and found myself pulling back towards my computer because i didn't want to stop typing on this keyboard. but then again, this is an issue with all of my keyboards... that feel
Hmmm ... give yourself a week or two of using it exclusively, ideally, or as much as you can, to become accustomed to the layout. And the feel. And the oneness with cup rubber.
I adjusted to the mods almost immediately. I had to flip alt around though, having a Windows key next to the spacebar is too funky, and alt is harder to hit in the 1u position. The arrows and other nav keys on the FN layer are really intuitive! The backspace took a few hours to get used to, but it's not a problem now. I already use control in the caps lock position on all of my other boards, so that was no problem. The next thing I have to tackle is going back to my SSK, and hitting \ instead of backspace. :))
I love the feel so far though, it's really tactile and smooth. I kind of don't want to use other boards..
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 17 November 2015, 12:54:13
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 17 November 2015, 16:47:13
everything is better with lube. Everything. :p
That's what she said.
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 17 November 2015, 19:09:10
Indeed! ^-^everything is better with lube. Everything. :p
That's what she said.
Post by: kinetic on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:20:36
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:26:17
Uh oh, looks like EK got a re-stock of the HHKB Type S... do I pull the trigger? What do I tell my wife? I've always been curious about the Type S variant.
Do it.
It's so satisfying to type on. Tell the wife you bought something to exercise your fingers on.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:27:16
Post by: graefeln on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:28:18
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 17 November 2015, 20:29:29
I can't believe it. I use the 2TU 60% MX at work for two weeks. Today, I rotated the HHKB out from the shelf and guess what? I am not used to the Backspace key anymore. It's like my finger muscle is getting very confused!
You don't replace the backslash with backspace on every non-HHKB board? I did it on mine and never looked back since.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 18 November 2015, 03:53:12
just got it in the mail today. not gonna lie, i'm quite underwhelmed. typing on it is nice, and i think it's gonna make a nice gaming board if nothing else, but i think i just gotta give it some time to adjust. i keep hitting ` when i try to backspace. hopefully some cool keycaps are made in the near future so i can deck out my hhkb. i also gotta relearn the modifiers. i think the pok3r's layout is much more intuitive, but trying new things is always fun!just kidding... i got up to go get the mail and found myself pulling back towards my computer because i didn't want to stop typing on this keyboard. but then again, this is an issue with all of my keyboards... that feel
Hmmm ... give yourself a week or two of using it exclusively, ideally, or as much as you can, to become accustomed to the layout. And the feel. And the oneness with cup rubber.
I adjusted to the mods almost immediately. I had to flip alt around though, having a Windows key next to the spacebar is too funky, and alt is harder to hit in the 1u position. The arrows and other nav keys on the FN layer are really intuitive! The backspace took a few hours to get used to, but it's not a problem now. I already use control in the caps lock position on all of my other boards, so that was no problem. The next thing I have to tackle is going back to my SSK, and hitting \ instead of backspace. :))
I love the feel so far though, it's really tactile and smooth. I kind of don't want to use other boards..
I'm using mine on a Mac, plus I use a keyboard at home for maybe an hour a day, compared to an ANSI TKL at work for 9 hours, so it did take me a bit longer to get accustomed to the HHKB layout.
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 18 November 2015, 09:28:09
Uh oh, looks like EK got a re-stock of the HHKB Type S... do I pull the trigger? What do I tell my wife? I've always been curious about the Type S variant.
If you already have an HHKB and are up for spending some time/effort you could just do the ironed landing pad mod.
Post by: phosphoric on Wed, 18 November 2015, 12:00:06
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:40:31
Post by: phosphoric on Wed, 18 November 2015, 16:47:11
It is only a little different but definitely noticeable. I used to make unintentional keystrokes on the 45 with my hammer hands dragging over the keyboard, 55g totally eliminates that problem for me it doesn't feel heavier for me but it definitely feels tighter. I was able to resell the 45 swapped RealForce for 175 so the total added investment was only 30 or so. :thumb: recommenddon't tempt me man... i don't have much of an issue with fatfingering keys, but the problem is definitely present in a lighter switch like this
Post by: markONE on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:24:54
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:27:02
Just found out about geekhack. Got a v60 a while ago, and convinced work to expense a HHKB. LOVING it so far. Only problem is when I get back home, I caps lock all the things and keep typing \ or |. Oh well. Time to get some colored modifiers. ;D
Keep that HHKB habit and change the v60 layout at home! I used keytweaker.
Post by: slushi on Wed, 18 November 2015, 21:27:58
Just found out about geekhack. Got a v60 a while ago, and convinced work to expense a HHKB. LOVING it so far. Only problem is when I get back home, I caps lock all the things and keep typing \ or |. Oh well. Time to get some colored modifiers. ;D
Wow, your work got you an hhkb!? Nice man. I clearly am working for the wrong company.
I also feel ya on the keyboard layout switching from work to home. It totally throws me off at work.
Post by: knat3 on Thu, 19 November 2015, 02:44:59
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 19 November 2015, 03:52:20
Just found out about geekhack. Got a v60 a while ago, and convinced work to expense a HHKB. LOVING it so far. Only problem is when I get back home, I caps lock all the things and keep typing \ or |. Oh well. Time to get some colored modifiers. ;D
Welcome to Geekhack!
Generous place you work :) Although my boss did get me a Ducky Shine a couple of years ago.
Just got a hhkb for the office and loving it so far. I'm curious about the silencing mod - I have a private office so the sound isn't obnoxious to coworkers but almost bought the type s until I decided I needed a black / blank look. :) for those that have done the iron pad mod, was it worth it?
Welcome to Geekhack!
The white one is silent enough for most people.
Post by: phosphoric on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:29:11
Post by: slushi on Thu, 19 November 2015, 13:41:32
so much money spent..
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 20 November 2015, 04:05:36
i'm back with a three-day update just because this is the first day using cherry mx again after three days of solely using my hhkb. i'm a convert. i believe. i bow down to the gods of topre. my pok3r, while having a superior fn layout, feels cheap and the switches feel wobbly. the stability i get from using my topre board... holy ****. i bought a set of dsa caps, though... maybe the different profile is radical enough to change how i feel about my pok3r right now? ah man. my pok3r was my baby. oh well.
One of us ... one of us ...
Post by: swimmingbird on Fri, 20 November 2015, 06:54:49
i'm back with a three-day update just because this is the first day using cherry mx again after three days of solely using my hhkb. i'm a convert. i believe. i bow down to the gods of topre. my pok3r, while having a superior fn layout, feels cheap and the switches feel wobbly. the stability i get from using my topre board... holy ****. i bought a set of dsa caps, though... maybe the different profile is radical enough to change how i feel about my pok3r right now? ah man. my pok3r was my baby. oh well.
One of us ... one of us ...
We accept you one of us!
Post by: TieuNgu on Fri, 20 November 2015, 19:32:43
i'm back with a three-day update just because this is the first day using cherry mx again after three days of solely using my hhkb. i'm a convert. i believe. i bow down to the gods of topre. my pok3r, while having a superior fn layout, feels cheap and the switches feel wobbly. the stability i get from using my topre board... holy ****. i bought a set of dsa caps, though... maybe the different profile is radical enough to change how i feel about my pok3r right now? ah man. my pok3r was my baby. oh well.I started out with topre, never tried any MX but I probably will someday. Topre to me is like Apple of keyboard (status, consistent, less customization) while MX is like Android (more flexibility, less expensive, more options in all fronts)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 20 November 2015, 19:47:58
(can't believe I've never posted in this thread before)
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 20 November 2015, 19:50:08
I started out with topre, never tried any MX but I probably will someday. Topre to me is like Apple of keyboard (status, consistent, less customization) while MX is like Android (more flexibility, less expensive, more options in all fronts)
I somewhat agree to this statement ^-^
Post by: dan002 on Fri, 20 November 2015, 20:18:29
I started out with topre, never tried any MX but I probably will someday. Topre to me is like Apple of keyboard (status, consistent, less customization) while MX is like Android (more flexibility, less expensive, more options in all fronts)
I somewhat agree to this statement ^-^
First mech keyboard was a HHKB pro 2 :thumb: Before that it was a regular Dell desktop package keyboard.
Although I learned about the home row way back, the HHKB pro 2 helped teach me it again!!!
Post by: vegs on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:17:25
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:19:12
I've had my HHKB for about two weeks now, and I've been having some issues with the case squeaking (https://youtu.be/tEEZs0atBl0). Anyone experienced similar problems? It was even worse, so I put some paper inside to try and sandwich it a bit. It's not really noticeable while typing anymore, but still an annoyance.
Ours make little click noises if you press hard on the corner, but no squeaks.
Why the hell are you even pressing the corner?
Post by: vegs on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:26:50
I'm just really ocd about it I guess. Was just to demonstrate the sound. The same thing often happens when I press the buttons close to the corners. I think I'll just stuff some cloth or something inside the case, it should fix it :)I've had my HHKB for about two weeks now, and I've been having some issues with the case squeaking (https://youtu.be/tEEZs0atBl0). Anyone experienced similar problems? It was even worse, so I put some paper inside to try and sandwich it a bit. It's not really noticeable while typing anymore, but still an annoyance.
Ours make little click noises if you press hard on the corner, but no squeaks.
Why the hell are you even pressing the corner?
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:29:27
I'm just really ocd about it I guess. Was just to demonstrate the sound.I've had my HHKB for about two weeks now, and I've been having some issues with the case squeaking (https://youtu.be/tEEZs0atBl0). Anyone experienced similar problems? It was even worse, so I put some paper inside to try and sandwich it a bit. It's not really noticeable while typing anymore, but still an annoyance.
Ours make little click noises if you press hard on the corner, but no squeaks.
Why the hell are you even pressing the corner?
It IS a plastic on plastic on plastic board. I'm sorry you have that creaking. It is good that it is less noticeable or just non-existent now when typing. I have OCD about my PC being loud, so everything is silent in that sucker. I'd imagine every keypress making THAT particular squeaking sound you posted would be cause for RMA.
EDIT cuz of your EDIT: Do not accept anything short of perfection from your hhkb. Like I said, we have 2 in our house and they don't make ANY creaking sound; only a click is heard when the top part is pushed against the base.
Post by: vegs on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:33:56
Then I guess we're somewhat in the same boat. Replaced all my fans with Noctua + watercooled CPU just for reduced noise. I aslo silenced my HHKB just last week, it was then I noticed the issue. But yeah, I just edited my previous post. The problem is basically only the two/three buttons closest to the corner. I'll fix it somehow.I'm just really ocd about it I guess. Was just to demonstrate the sound.I've had my HHKB for about two weeks now, and I've been having some issues with the case squeaking (https://youtu.be/tEEZs0atBl0). Anyone experienced similar problems? It was even worse, so I put some paper inside to try and sandwich it a bit. It's not really noticeable while typing anymore, but still an annoyance.
Ours make little click noises if you press hard on the corner, but no squeaks.
Why the hell are you even pressing the corner?
It IS a plastic on plastic on plastic board. I'm sorry you have that creaking. It is good that it is less noticeable or just non-existent now when typing. I have OCD about my PC being loud, so everything is silent in that sucker. I'd imagine every keypress making THAT particular squeaking sound you posted would be cause for RMA.
Post by: absyrd on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:46:00
Post by: vegs on Sat, 21 November 2015, 09:49:31
Gotcha. Keep me updated. Def in the same boat when it comes to sounds. If you are that good with building a silent PC, I'm sure you will come up with a fix for your HHKB. Which silencing method did you use on the kb? What about the stock HHKB sound bothered you in the first place? I don't mind the bottom out or return thock at all.Will do! I used these (http://www.ebay.com/itm/221869326732?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) dental bands. I usually bring my keyboard with me to school, and I found the return thock a bit too loud for taking notes in class.
Post by: Cicada88 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 16:26:38
(http://i63.tinypic.com/vzzuon.jpg)
Post by: dan002 on Sun, 22 November 2015, 16:55:39
ought to be possible with the right tools.
Post by: TieuNgu on Sun, 22 November 2015, 19:14:08
Anyone dye sublimated their own white hhkb key caps? I've seen them on ebay, so itThe only problem that kept me from considering those caps is that I don't know how long the paint would last or if it would blend to the caps next to it :/
ought to be possible with the right tools.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 November 2015, 04:01:53
Holiday Spirit HHKB StyleShow Image(http://i63.tinypic.com/vzzuon.jpg)
Merry Christmas :)
Post by: dan002 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:14:03
Anyone dye sublimated their own white hhkb key caps? I've seen them on ebay, so itThe only problem that kept me from considering those caps is that I don't know how long the paint would last or if it would blend to the caps next to it :/
ought to be possible with the right tools.
Referring to the quality of the dye. I believe they are dye sublimated with heat, the same way legends on pbt are.
Cicada88 do they caps feel any different?
Post by: keshley on Mon, 23 November 2015, 08:49:48
Anyone dye sublimated their own white hhkb key caps? I've seen them on ebay, so itThe only problem that kept me from considering those caps is that I don't know how long the paint would last or if it would blend to the caps next to it :/
ought to be possible with the right tools.
Referring to the quality of the dye. I believe they are dye sublimated with heat, the same way legends on pbt are.
Cicada88 do they caps feel any different?
I have some, they feel the same to me. The burgundy ones look fantastic IMO. The Navy ones are pretty subtle.
Post by: Cicada88 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 09:20:44
If you guys are interested in ordering any I have free shipping for GH users...check my thread in the artisan forum. We can also work out specific keysets or deals.
As for the durability? I have only been making them for 6 months or so, but I have had no complaints or problems with my own.
After they dry, I give them a hard scrub and alcohol bath to get rid of any dye thats left on the surface. After that there isn't any transfer, and they aren't made with paint at all. The dye is actually absorbed into the key via heat. They feel and look stock as far as texture and keeping the matte finish.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 23 November 2015, 16:30:45
(http://i.imgur.com/xvdjszY.jpg)
Post by: phosphoric on Mon, 23 November 2015, 17:05:08
Just waiting on my PBT Spacebar to come in later this week. Already in love after just a few thocks. Lazy cellphone pic:are those mint arrows cicadas'? they look so good!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xvdjszY.jpg)
Post by: Cicada88 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 17:15:10
Just waiting on my PBT Spacebar to come in later this week. Already in love after just a few thocks. Lazy cellphone pic:are those mint arrows cicadas'? they look so good!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xvdjszY.jpg)
No those aren't mine--they look to be a different material than stock PBT.
That's a great color though. I want to try do a color similar to that at some point for escape, function, and arrows.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 23 November 2015, 17:21:03
Just waiting on my PBT Spacebar to come in later this week. Already in love after just a few thocks. Lazy cellphone pic:are those mint arrows cicadas'? they look so good!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xvdjszY.jpg)
They're KeyKollectiv. Thanks!
Post by: Altis on Mon, 23 November 2015, 18:34:59
It's noticeably more gritty than my RF87U... but I don't want to somehow ruin it in the process.
I am going to be adding some sound deadening though to see how that affects it -- it's easy to undo, though.
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 19:36:37
I do have a fc660c modded with 55g domes.
I just really want to see if in missing anything with a hhkbp2.
I'd love to try the type-s variant. I'd also like to see how it compares to the dental band mod.
Any one have links to show pros and cons between type-s and the dental band mod based on reviews?
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 23 November 2015, 19:38:50
Any one have links to show pros and cons between type-s and the dental band mod based on reviews?
One thing for sure is that the Type-S have longer sliders to accommodate the silencing rings so there're no travel reduction.
Post by: slushi on Mon, 23 November 2015, 19:49:47
I can't decide if I want to lubricate the stems on my HHKBp2.
It's noticeably more gritty than my RF87U... but I don't want to somehow ruin it in the process.
I am going to be adding some sound deadening though to see how that affects it -- it's easy to undo, though.
Lubing is reversible but can be time consuming.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71930.0
Post by: hasu on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:07:10
Any one have links to show pros and cons between type-s and the dental band mod based on reviews?
One thing for sure is that the Type-S have longer sliders to accommodate the silencing rings so there're no travel reduction.
Type-S has 3.8mm stroke while normal one has 4.0mm, I guess those use same plungers and O-rings are 0.2mm thick.
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/type-s/spec.html#pro2_spec
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:20:18
Any one have links to show pros and cons between type-s and the dental band mod based on reviews?
One thing for sure is that the Type-S have longer sliders to accommodate the silencing rings so there're no travel reduction.
Type-S has 3.8mm stroke while normal one has 4.0mm, I guess those use same plungers and O-rings are 0.2mm thick.
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/type-s/spec.html#pro2_spec
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html
So all this time I've been reading the wrong stuff.
No wonder Hypersphere's rings installed on the normal sliders doesn't feel like it reduces the travel distance.
Thanks for the info hasu!
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:28:31
So, the price difference is just for the silencing rings??Any one have links to show pros and cons between type-s and the dental band mod based on reviews?
One thing for sure is that the Type-S have longer sliders to accommodate the silencing rings so there're no travel reduction.
Type-S has 3.8mm stroke while normal one has 4.0mm, I guess those use same plungers and O-rings are 0.2mm thick.
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/type-s/spec.html#pro2_spec
https://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/hhkeyboard/hhkbpro2/spec.html
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:31:38
So, the price difference is just for the silencing rings??
Pretty much.
And the white case has the Type-S marking on the top right. That's about it.
Post by: TieuNgu on Mon, 23 November 2015, 21:51:11
Thanks for the feedback.
If you guys are interested in ordering any I have free shipping for GH users...check my thread in the artisan forum. We can also work out specific keysets or deals.
As for the durability? I have only been making them for 6 months or so, but I have had no complaints or problems with my own.
After they dry, I give them a hard scrub and alcohol bath to get rid of any dye thats left on the surface. After that there isn't any transfer, and they aren't made with paint at all. The dye is actually absorbed into the key via heat. They feel and look stock as far as texture and keeping the matte finish.
Hey it's good to know the process, made me feel interested in your work!
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 24 November 2015, 00:44:42
Post by: slushi on Tue, 24 November 2015, 00:46:20
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:Oh you with your switcheroo :)
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 24 November 2015, 05:18:30
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 24 November 2015, 08:36:19
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:Oh you with your switcheroo :)
^-^
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
+∞
Post by: MagicSauce on Tue, 24 November 2015, 11:43:31
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
Post by: slushi on Tue, 24 November 2015, 11:48:17
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
Post by: retrochick on Tue, 24 November 2015, 11:53:08
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Post by: eun on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:22:04
I have been using this for about two days now, and I am in love. This thing is heaven right now. It makes me actually want to do my homework and papers. I just love typing with this. Topre switches really are indescribable. It's no where close to a regular rubber dome, and no where close to a mx switch. It has a feel on its own. It just feels like love on my fingers. In terms of typing improvement, I have a better flow and have made far less errors with this board than any of my others. This board just feels beautiful. I don't even fret over bottoming out because it sounds amazing and feels soft. It's like I bottom out on a bunch of soft pads. That pleasant thock and raindrop return. No stabilizers. This thing is amazing.
Actually i also love that..so i have hhbk pro1 & pro2
but im using cherry boards T_T
Post by: slushi on Tue, 24 November 2015, 12:41:03
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Haha, thanks! It's my baby... (don't tell my gf)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 24 November 2015, 13:16:03
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Since I game on whatever keyboard is plugged in, a 55g is probably out of the question. I don't really have any desire for a firmer switch regardless.
Post by: TieuNgu on Tue, 24 November 2015, 20:05:35
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Haha, thanks! It's my baby... (don't tell my gf)
Is 55g HHKB THAT good? All people I talk too recommend it but I mean that's like a $300 surgery lol
Post by: byker on Tue, 24 November 2015, 20:35:13
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Since I game on whatever keyboard is plugged in, a 55g is probably out of the question. I don't really have any desire for a firmer switch regardless.
In my opinion, it is nicer to game on 55g topre, than 45g topre. I usually use my 55g realfoce for gaming (over my hhkb)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 24 November 2015, 20:37:05
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Since I game on whatever keyboard is plugged in, a 55g is probably out of the question. I don't really have any desire for a firmer switch regardless.
In my opinion, it is nicer to game on 55g topre, than 45g topre. I usually use my 55g realfoce for gaming (over my hhkb)
Why is that? I was thinking about hopping on the Massdrop for the Realforce 55g, but the black ones are all gone.
Post by: byker on Tue, 24 November 2015, 20:47:39
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Since I game on whatever keyboard is plugged in, a 55g is probably out of the question. I don't really have any desire for a firmer switch regardless.
In my opinion, it is nicer to game on 55g topre, than 45g topre. I usually use my 55g realfoce for gaming (over my hhkb)
Why is that? I was thinking about hopping on the Massdrop for the Realforce 55g, but the black ones are all gone.
Less mushy and a more sudden collapse of the dome, makes me feel like the keys are more responsive when gaming.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 24 November 2015, 20:55:34
Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
Since I game on whatever keyboard is plugged in, a 55g is probably out of the question. I don't really have any desire for a firmer switch regardless.
In my opinion, it is nicer to game on 55g topre, than 45g topre. I usually use my 55g realfoce for gaming (over my hhkb)
Why is that? I was thinking about hopping on the Massdrop for the Realforce 55g, but the black ones are all gone.
Less mushy and a more sudden collapse of the dome, makes me feel like the keys are more responsive when gaming.
Ah, gotcha. I've been using mostly MX Reds at home lately, so the HHKB doesn't really feel mushy in comparison to those.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 24 November 2015, 21:42:20
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Haha, thanks! It's my baby... (don't tell my gf)
Is 55g HHKB THAT good? All people I talk too recommend it but I mean that's like a $300 surgery lol
I'll just add my opinion to the mix: I love 55g, but I'm not the biggest fan of 55g HHKB. It felt mushier to me - just lost the magic that is there in 55g RealForce, which has more of a snap to it. But lots of people think 55g HHKB is top tier, so you may prefer it. Just have to try it to see. ;)
Post by: slushi on Tue, 24 November 2015, 21:45:43
Well the surgery isn't too bad if you resell the donor as a 45g. I had extra 45g domes so I made the donor a uniform 45 and got a ton of money back.Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Haha, thanks! It's my baby... (don't tell my gf)
Is 55g HHKB THAT good? All people I talk too recommend it but I mean that's like a $300 surgery lol
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 25 November 2015, 03:42:27
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 25 November 2015, 04:37:50
Pics of this hhkb??Okay, after using this keyboard for the last 5-6 hours I can honestly say I hate it... because it has ruined MX switches for me. I'm still going to need some time to get used to the layout, but it just feels so good. :thumb:
I had very similar feelings when I got my HHKB after using ergo clears
Gets even worse when you try a 55g RF
So once I grab that 55g RF I am going to ruin my HHKB too?
No no no, you're going to improve your HHKB through surgery. :)
I wish you were nearby. I want to try out your modded 55g hyperfused lubed hhkb!!!! >:D
Haha, thanks! It's my baby... (don't tell my gf)
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 27 November 2015, 00:06:04
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 00:13:29
I have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:01:22
I have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Is this the one you're suggesting?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-30-45-55-Variable-Keyboard-/271700719765?hash=item3f429ff895:g:L8QAAOSwq7JT36cS
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:02:36
I have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
That's the variable weighting one. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast.
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Is this the one you're suggesting?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-30-45-55-Variable-Keyboard-/271700719765?hash=item3f429ff895:g:L8QAAOSwq7JT36cS
That's variable weighting. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast usually.
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:23:36
I have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
That's the variable weighting one. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast.
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Is this the one you're suggesting?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-30-45-55-Variable-Keyboard-/271700719765?hash=item3f429ff895:g:L8QAAOSwq7JT36cS
That's variable weighting. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast usually.
I've seen some other Realforce 55g on eBay. Sorry for the stupid question but what's special about the 10th anniversary edition?
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 27 November 2015, 09:29:34
lighter colored case and a different keycaps so thats thatI have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
That's the variable weighting one. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast.
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Is this the one you're suggesting?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topre-Realforce-87-10th-Anniversary-Edition-30-45-55-Variable-Keyboard-/271700719765?hash=item3f429ff895:g:L8QAAOSwq7JT36cS
That's variable weighting. If you want all 55g, try messaging him. It runs out of stock pretty fast usually.
I've seen some other Realforce 55g on eBay. Sorry for the stupid question but what's special about the 10th anniversary edition?
Post by: maskey on Fri, 27 November 2015, 11:02:19
Post by: Jeftha on Sat, 28 November 2015, 22:22:56
When applying these, the easiest way I found was to first put them around your thumb. Then press your thumb firmly on top of the slider and roll the band from your thumb right onto the slider. This leads to the band being twisted sometimes, but if you press it down all the way it's still going to do the job with little keytravel reduction.
After a few months I noticed that my spacebar was rattling quite a bit. Fixed that by lubing the stabilizer wire and clips with some di-electric grease. It thocks again.
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 08:59:03
Post by: captaineleven on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:05:04
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:12:56
Got my HHKB today too and now I want like eleven of these things :)) They are like nothing I've ever typed on before and I never really understood the snap back that people have mentioned about topre until today. I still have to get through a couple of days of dealing with the backspace button, but it's otherwise an intuitive feel for me. #cantgoback lol
I feel your backspace pain. Ctrl is proving more difficult for me to adjust to, but I know it'll be worth it. #onewiththecuprubber
Post by: meow a cat on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:19:27
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Post by: captaineleven on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:23:09
Got my HHKB today too and now I want like eleven of these things :)) They are like nothing I've ever typed on before and I never really understood the snap back that people have mentioned about topre until today. I still have to get through a couple of days of dealing with the backspace button, but it's otherwise an intuitive feel for me. #cantgoback lol
I feel your backspace pain. Ctrl is proving more difficult for me to adjust to, but I know it'll be worth it. #onewiththecuprubber
Haha one day! Hopefully soon! The control is actually not too much trouble for me. It's the daggone backspace because I have miniature hands and I type wrong. So my poor pinky finger is forced to deal with typing properly. Otherwise, if I use my ring finger, I overshoot it and end up pressing the tilde key and then it's just a mess. But perks of the hhkb is that my miniature hands look like they belong there lol
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:53:40
Got my HHKB today too and now I want like eleven of these things :)) They are like nothing I've ever typed on before and I never really understood the snap back that people have mentioned about topre until today. I still have to get through a couple of days of dealing with the backspace button, but it's otherwise an intuitive feel for me. #cantgoback lol
I feel your backspace pain. Ctrl is proving more difficult for me to adjust to, but I know it'll be worth it. #onewiththecuprubber
Haha one day! Hopefully soon! The control is actually not too much trouble for me. It's the daggone backspace because I have miniature hands and I type wrong. So my poor pinky finger is forced to deal with typing properly. Otherwise, if I use my ring finger, I overshoot it and end up pressing the tilde key and then it's just a mess. But perks of the hhkb is that my miniature hands look like they belong there lol
My pinkys have gotten more typing action in one day than they have had their entire lives LOL Needless to say they're already sore, but hey no pain no gain.
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 30 November 2015, 18:58:52
Also learned to use right pinkie for the " key and enter. So it's all for the better :)
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 30 November 2015, 19:43:34
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 19:46:04
I can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 30 November 2015, 19:55:02
Thats good. NOW LUBE AND SILENCE THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW AND MOD IT TO WIRELESS!! :p :pI can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 20:25:29
Thats good. NOW LUBE AND SILENCE THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW AND MOD IT TO WIRELESS!! :p :pI can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
LUBE AND SILENCE SHALL COMMENCE ONCE I OBTAIN THE NECESSARY TOOLS :D No need for bluetooth heh
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 30 November 2015, 21:12:29
What about programmable hhkb? And DOME SWAPPING? Damn endgame right thereThats good. NOW LUBE AND SILENCE THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW AND MOD IT TO WIRELESS!! :p :pI can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
LUBE AND SILENCE SHALL COMMENCE ONCE I OBTAIN THE NECESSARY TOOLS :D No need for bluetooth heh
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:08:56
What about programmable hhkb? And DOME SWAPPING? Damn endgame right thereThats good. NOW LUBE AND SILENCE THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW AND MOD IT TO WIRELESS!! :p :pI can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
LUBE AND SILENCE SHALL COMMENCE ONCE I OBTAIN THE NECESSARY TOOLS :D No need for bluetooth heh
Father forgive me for my sins, but I prefer 45g :/ Also never dat, I actually like the HHKB layout now. :-*
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:33:16
enjoy your board brother :thumb:What about programmable hhkb? And DOME SWAPPING? Damn endgame right thereThats good. NOW LUBE AND SILENCE THAT BOARD RIGHT NOW AND MOD IT TO WIRELESS!! :p :pI can say hhkb is the best keyboard. Last week i made a classified wanting to sell my hhkb and the following day i pulled hhkb out of the box and try to type on it, I know that i made a mistake and i said to myself "Why the **** do you want to sell this amazing keyboard!?". Seriously you guys that want to sell hhkb needs to enjoy this board
Only got mine because the original owner got a Type-S :))
LUBE AND SILENCE SHALL COMMENCE ONCE I OBTAIN THE NECESSARY TOOLS :D No need for bluetooth heh
Father forgive me for my sins, but I prefer 45g :/ Also never dat, I actually like the HHKB layout now. :-*
Post by: MEEPhouse on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:39:18
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:47:43
enjoy your board brother :thumb:
Thanks man, I will! <3
Post by: slushi on Mon, 30 November 2015, 23:59:57
Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:
(http://i.imgur.com/z0TThVa.jpg)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:
(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 01 December 2015, 00:01:16
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 01 December 2015, 00:03:59
bro you drill the stabilizer keys?Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fBBey1A.png)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
Post by: slushi on Tue, 01 December 2015, 00:12:24
bocahgundul - Yup, I did. Used a conical drill bit.
Post by: phruitpie on Tue, 01 December 2015, 00:19:27
bocahgundul - Yup, I did. Used a conical drill bit.
you. i like u. this is a task i would never take on, your board looks amazing!
Post by: slushi on Tue, 01 December 2015, 00:25:36
bocahgundul - Yup, I did. Used a conical drill bit.
you. i like u. this is a task i would never take on, your board looks amazing!
Haha, thanks. I was pretty scared at first. Just gotta take your time to measure it out. Measure twice, drill once.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 01 December 2015, 03:34:00
Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/z0TThVa.jpg)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
Toxic really suits the black case!
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 01 December 2015, 03:55:10
Beautiful.Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/z0TThVa.jpg)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
I'm still waiting on my hyperfuse set. :(
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 01 December 2015, 04:29:39
Respect bro. Nice board :thumb:bocahgundul - Yup, I did. Used a conical drill bit.
you. i like u. this is a task i would never take on, your board looks amazing!
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Tue, 01 December 2015, 08:27:03
Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/z0TThVa.jpg)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
I love HF, but Toxic takes this one. Stunning! :thumb:
Post by: vegs on Tue, 01 December 2015, 09:10:21
weow. Mad jelly.Pics of this hhkb??
Hey sorry, I missed this post.
Here it is with Hyperfuse GMK:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/z0TThVa.jpg)
Here it is currently with Toxic DCS:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lFm3euI.jpg)
Post by: slushi on Tue, 01 December 2015, 12:59:32
I love HF, but Toxic takes this one. Stunning! :thumb:
weow. Mad jelly.
Thanks for the compliments everyone!! I really love my HHKB :)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 01 December 2015, 15:16:23
I have 2 HHKB Pro 2
Absolutely love them.
Just upgraded one of them with hasu's alt controller, wondering what mod i should do next?
I love the sound of them, so not sure I can be bothered with silencing them, but may try the dental band method.
What realforce keyboard would people recommend if I wanted to buy a 55g Topre model to test it out?
The 10th Anniversary Edition 55g one :)
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
^-^
Post by: kinetic on Wed, 02 December 2015, 23:47:20
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 03 December 2015, 07:22:05
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
I am indeed on Windows 10. It boots fine with my laptop running Windows 10 though - it's weird.
I might have better results with Hasu's controller if I ever figure out how to get a .hex made, I've given up for now. :))
Post by: kinetic on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:15:42
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
I am indeed on Windows 10. It boots fine with my laptop running Windows 10 though - it's weird.
I might have better results with Hasu's controller if I ever figure out how to get a .hex made, I've given up for now. :))
What's worked for me is plugging the keyboard into the USB hub of my monitor. It was initially plugged directly into the desktop. Since then, I haven't had any issues.
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 03 December 2015, 09:57:47
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
I am indeed on Windows 10. It boots fine with my laptop running Windows 10 though - it's weird.
I might have better results with Hasu's controller if I ever figure out how to get a .hex made, I've given up for now. :))
What are your issues with getting a .hex made?
Post by: slushi on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:05:15
Post by: keshley on Thu, 03 December 2015, 11:07:34
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:32:00
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
I am indeed on Windows 10. It boots fine with my laptop running Windows 10 though - it's weird.
I might have better results with Hasu's controller if I ever figure out how to get a .hex made, I've given up for now. :))
What are your issues with getting a .hex made?
This is the error I get:
Code: [Select]
$ make -f makefile KEYMAP=keymap_hhkb.c
/usr/bin/sh: dfu-programmer: command not found
/usr/bin/sh: dfu-programmer: command not found
-------- begin --------
avr-gcc (GCC) 4.8.2 20131010 (prerelease)
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
make: *** No rule to make target 'obj_hhkb_lufa/keymap_keymap_hhkb.c.o', needed by 'hhkb_lufa.elf'. Stop.This is under Windows 10, using Cygwin.. and eventually Flip, if I ever get the hex file made. I'm probably just doing something silly though, I don't have much knowledge of bash commands outside of cd and ls commands. :))
Post by: reallifetim on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:35:10
Post by: graefeln on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:38:59
Any of the HHKB boys convert from stiffer cherry switches and not look back? I'm currently in love with Cherry Greens and couldn't imagine being content with a 45g switch.
I used, and loved, greens for about a year before going to 67g Zealios for about a month before getting my HHKB. I am happy here and find myself using the HHKB the most... It's different than light Cherry switches (I hated reds) in a good way.
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 03 December 2015, 17:45:42
I've been thoroughly enjoying my oneness with cup rubber.
One issue is bothering me though. My HHKB never wants to register when I boot my rig. It does nothing until I unplug and plug it back in once or twice. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, any way to fix it? I haven't had this happen with any of my other boards.
Are you on Windows 10? This happens to me with my 87U.
I am indeed on Windows 10. It boots fine with my laptop running Windows 10 though - it's weird.
I might have better results with Hasu's controller if I ever figure out how to get a .hex made, I've given up for now. :))
What are your issues with getting a .hex made?
Tried again and ended up with this:
Code: [Select]
$ make -f makefile keymap=keymap_hhkb.c
/usr/bin/sh: dfu-programmer: command not found
/usr/bin/sh: dfu-programmer: command not found
-------- begin --------
avr-gcc (GCC) 4.8.2 20131010 (prerelease)
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
mkdir -p obj_hhkb_lufa
Compiling C: keymap_hhkb.c
avr-gcc -c -mmcu=atmega32u4 -gdwarf-2 -DF_CPU=16000000UL -DBOOTLOADER_SIZE=4096 -DF_USB=16000000UL -DARCH=ARCH_AVR8 -DUSB_DEVICE_ONLY -DUSE_FLASH_DESCRIPTORS -DUSE_STATIC_OPTIONS="(USB_DEVICE_OPT_FULLSPEED | USB_OPT_REG_ENABLED | USB_OPT_AUTO_PLL)" -DFIXED_CONTROL_ENDPOINT_SIZE=8 -DFIXED_NUM_CONFIGURATIONS=1 -DPROTOCOL_LUFA -DBOOTMAGIC_ENABLE -DMOUSEKEY_ENABLE -DMOUSE_ENABLE -DEXTRAKEY_ENABLE -DCONSOLE_ENABLE -DCOMMAND_ENABLE -DNKRO_ENABLE -DVERSION=unknown -Os -funsigned-char -funsigned-bitfields -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-inline-small-functions -fpack-struct -fshort-enums -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wa,-adhlns=obj_hhkb_lufa/keymap_hhkb.lst -I. -I../../tmk_core -I../../tmk_core/protocol/lufa -I../../tmk_core/protocol/lufa/LUFA-git -I../../tmk_core/common -std=gnu99 -include config.h -MMD -MP -MF .dep/obj_hhkb_lufa_keymap_hhkb.o.d keymap_hhkb.c -o obj_hhkb_lufa/keymap_hhkb.o
In file included from keymap_hhkb.c:4:0:
keymap_common.h:47:17: error: 'KC_KC_BTN2' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:27: error: 'KC_KC_MS_U' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:37: error: 'KC_KC_MS_D' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:47: error: 'KC_KC_MS_L' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:57: error: 'KC_KC_VOLD' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:67: error: 'KC_KC_VOLU' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:47:77: error: 'KC_KC_MUTE' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K00, KC_##K01, KC_##K02, KC_##K03, KC_##K04, KC_##K05, KC_##K06, KC_##K07 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:48:27: error: 'KC_KC_WH_U' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K10, KC_##K11, KC_##K12, KC_##K13, KC_##K14, KC_##K15, KC_##K16, KC_##K17 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:48:37: error: 'KC_KC_BTN1' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K10, KC_##K11, KC_##K12, KC_##K13, KC_##K14, KC_##K15, KC_##K16, KC_##K17 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:48:47: error: 'KC_KC_MS_R' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K10, KC_##K11, KC_##K12, KC_##K13, KC_##K14, KC_##K15, KC_##K16, KC_##K17 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:48:57: error: 'KC_KC_WH_D' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K10, KC_##K11, KC_##K12, KC_##K13, KC_##K14, KC_##K15, KC_##K16, KC_##K17 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:50:57: error: 'KC_KC_MYCM' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K30, KC_##K31, KC_##K32, KC_##K33, KC_##K34, KC_##K35, KC_##K36, KC_##K37 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_common.h:52:67: error: 'KC_KC_CALC' undeclared here (not in a function)
{ KC_##K50, KC_##K51, KC_##K52, KC_##K53, KC_##K54, KC_##K55, KC_##K56, KC_##K57 }, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:44:5: note: in expansion of macro 'KEYMAP'
KEYMAP(PWR, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, INS, DEL, \
^
keymap_hhkb.c:56:0: error: unterminated #else
#ifdef KEYMAP_SECTION_ENABLE
^
keymap_hhkb.c:93:12: error: 'ACTI' undeclared here (not in a function)
[0] = ACTI
^
keymap_hhkb.c:93:5: error: initializer element is not constant
[0] = ACTI
^
keymap_hhkb.c:93:5: error: (near initialization for 'fn_actions[0]')
keymap_hhkb.c:93:5: error: expected '}' at end of input
../../tmk_core/rules.mk:550: recipe for target 'obj_hhkb_lufa/keymap_hhkb.o' failed
make: *** [obj_hhkb_lufa/keymap_hhkb.o] Error 1
Syntax errors maybe? But all I did was take the HHKB layout Hasu provided and changed a few scancodes. :blank:
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 03 December 2015, 20:49:51
(http://i.imgur.com/8328Pec.jpg)
Post by: Ryu on Sat, 05 December 2015, 03:13:35
(http://i.imgur.com/nb39ZZm.jpg)
Post by: Altis on Sat, 05 December 2015, 11:53:36
My HHKB with 10th Anniversary keycaps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nb39ZZm.jpg)
Very nice. Perfect shade of blue, IMO.
It's too bad those caps and the Realforce anniversary edition are so expensive.
Post by: Rhedone on Sat, 05 December 2015, 15:35:08
I love that shade of blue too, especially in combination with blackMy HHKB with 10th Anniversary keycaps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nb39ZZm.jpg)
Very nice. Perfect shade of blue, IMO.
It's too bad those caps and the Realforce anniversary edition are so expensive.
Post by: maskey on Sat, 05 December 2015, 16:21:49
so excited. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my Novatouch
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 05 December 2015, 20:21:36
Just ordered mine today :)You will enjoy it more than the novatouch.
so excited. It will be interesting to see how it compares to my Novatouch
Post by: captaineleven on Sat, 05 December 2015, 21:01:28
Got the white printed caps today and I immediately traded it in for the black ones. The black ones are great and look awesome, but I am aiming for the symmetry and think I've got it!
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 05 December 2015, 21:04:05
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/afDsCXv.jpg)
Got the white printed caps today and I immediately traded it in for the black ones. The black ones are great and look awesome, but I am aiming for the symmetry and think I've got it!
I'm liking this white alphas with black modifier more each day.
Maybe I should do it as well... getting bored with my HHKB setup these days.
Post by: captaineleven on Sat, 05 December 2015, 21:22:44
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/afDsCXv.jpg)
Got the white printed caps today and I immediately traded it in for the black ones. The black ones are great and look awesome, but I am aiming for the symmetry and think I've got it!
I'm liking this white alphas with black modifier more each day.
Maybe I should do it as well... getting bored with my HHKB setup these days.
It does look pretty sweet in person. I really like the black on charcoal color scheme but I much prefer having the printed keycaps instead; they look really good to me. There are a few places selling their keycaps for fairly decent prices, so you might be able to nab yourself a set in the coming days. I think you should go for it if you have the extra funds. I'm really loving mine.
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 05 December 2015, 22:16:20
It does look pretty sweet in person. I really like the black on charcoal color scheme but I much prefer having the printed keycaps instead; they look really good to me. There are a few places selling their keycaps for fairly decent prices, so you might be able to nab yourself a set in the coming days. I think you should go for it if you have the extra funds. I'm really loving mine.
I don't need to buy anymore as I've got all the 4 sets (white, white blank, black, blank black) with me right now :D
Just have to mix and match.
Post by: captaineleven on Sat, 05 December 2015, 23:00:43
I don't need to buy anymore as I've got all the 4 sets (white, white blank, black, blank black) with me right now :D
Just have to mix and match.
LOL Well then what are you waiting for?!?! I was thinking of mixing and matching onto the keyboard itself with like different patterns and stuff. Like alternate black and white keycaps by lines and all that but for now I like the look of the setup I have. So I think you should just go for it and show us!
Post by: Ryu on Mon, 07 December 2015, 00:18:44
Yes, expensive. Especially it needs two set of anniversary edition keycaps to complete the HHKB layout.My HHKB with 10th Anniversary keycaps.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nb39ZZm.jpg)
Very nice. Perfect shade of blue, IMO.
It's too bad those caps and the Realforce anniversary edition are so expensive.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Mon, 07 December 2015, 01:06:25
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 07 December 2015, 01:30:06
Post by: vegs on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:14:38
My board is ready for Christmas :p
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 10 December 2015, 16:33:16
(http://i.imgur.com/lmPZ6SD.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lmPZ6SD.jpg)
My board is ready for Christmas :p
Beautiful!
I'm hoping to be able to rock a neon Christmas theme soon™
Post by: shortround on Thu, 10 December 2015, 22:05:47
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 11 December 2015, 00:00:08
I just joined the darkside with a new hhkb and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I'm still typing ``````when trying to backspace but I'll get it down soon enough I'm sure. I really want to get a colored arrow cluster now.
Congratulations, they're amazing. Which one did you get?
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Fri, 11 December 2015, 03:29:22
Post by: shortround on Fri, 11 December 2015, 09:38:57
I just joined the darkside with a new hhkb and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I'm still typing ``````when trying to backspace but I'll get it down soon enough I'm sure. I really want to get a colored arrow cluster now.
Congratulations, they're amazing. Which one did you get?
The dark grey w/ black print.
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 11 December 2015, 11:18:34
The dark grey w/ black print.
Awesome, I have that one as my work keyboard (used to have blank keycaps at work, but that made it hard for pair programming).
Amazing kit, this thread has got me thinking of buying a third. Maybe a white with blanks.
Post by: slushi on Fri, 11 December 2015, 13:26:58
Post by: maskey on Fri, 11 December 2015, 16:56:10
(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 11 December 2015, 19:40:03
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lmPZ6SD.jpg)
My board is ready for Christmas :p
Great picture. :thumb:
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:18:24
Ugh, I'm thinking about getting another HHKB.. this time a type-s just to see the differences..Go for it mateee
Post by: Nalor on Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:18:40
Post by: Solo on Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:28:33
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lmPZ6SD.jpg)
My board is ready for Christmas :p
:-X
That's looking pretty fresh, son.
What's the color of that fn key?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 December 2015, 22:34:31
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Post by: Vimto on Sat, 12 December 2015, 02:07:06
I got confused reading the thread title I thought it meant you had to have 2 HHKB to show your love.
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why does the white type s look so much bigger?
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 12 December 2015, 02:17:52
Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 December 2015, 08:25:25
I got confused reading the thread title I thought it meant you had to have 2 HHKB to show your love.
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why does the white type s look so much bigger?
Perspective?
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 13 December 2015, 03:45:07
I got confused reading the thread title I thought it meant you had to have 2 HHKB to show your love.
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That just means you're showing double the love :D
Post by: phruitpie on Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:39:52
I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 13 December 2015, 12:56:44
Bro I'm so inlove with hhkb that i want to map the backspace key to \ key in my realforce . And can someone help me to map this key? using autohotkey offcourseWhen I was primarily a Mac user, I used Karabiner for remapping my RF and other boards to a HHKB layout. Now I mostly use Windows, and I use ATNsoft Key Manager, which I find much easier to use than AHK.
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:24:40
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:29:27
Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
Sell both and get a cheap rubber dome, it would be the same. -- Just kidding enjoy your new baby.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:32:58
I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:36:12
Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
I give it 3 days before that MX board is gone. Succumb to the almighty cup rubber :p
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:45:10
I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Just tried the lite ext and the modifiers now work as windows keys, thanks Hoff! Now if I could just figure out how to get these media controls to work...
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 December 2015, 15:53:43
I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Just tried the lite ext and the modifiers now work as windows keys, thanks Hoff! Now if I could just figure out how to get these media controls to work...
:) Good to hear! As for the media keys... :rolleyes: I don't think I've had any luck with that. Don't quote me on it, but I believe those are really only natively supported in Mac OS. But again, that's just based on what I've seen/heard - there may be a way.
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:02:11
I would totally agree, but my Mx board has Zealios, and it's the first board I ever built, so there is some serious sentimental value there. We will see. Either way, I will definitely be returning to the cupped rubber world as soon as I can afford to keep both boards!Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
I give it 3 days before that MX board is gone. Succumb to the almighty cup rubber :p
The smoothness here is just something else. like... WOW!
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:20:05
I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Just tried the lite ext and the modifiers now work as windows keys, thanks Hoff! Now if I could just figure out how to get these media controls to work...
:) Good to hear! As for the media keys... :rolleyes: I don't think I've had any luck with that. Don't quote me on it, but I believe those are really only natively supported in Mac OS. But again, that's just based on what I've seen/heard - there may be a way.
Curse you HHKB! I'm pretty sure I read something like that somewhere as well. Oh well, I can live without them :)
I would totally agree, but my Mx board has Zealios, and it's the first board I ever built, so there is some serious sentimental value there. We will see. Either way, I will definitely be returning to the cupped rubber world as soon as I can afford to keep both boards!Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
I give it 3 days before that MX board is gone. Succumb to the almighty cup rubber :p
The smoothness here is just something else. like... WOW!
Feels like butter doesn't it haha I was just as amazed the first time I typed on my HHKB. While topre is wonderful, that sense of pride you feel while typing on a board you built is something I can totally understand. Alas I was wrong since I just saw your post up on mechmarket, but best of luck selling!
Post by: neverused on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:22:43
If you get a replacement controller from hasu, his tmk firmware does have media controls that will work with pc.I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Just tried the lite ext and the modifiers now work as windows keys, thanks Hoff! Now if I could just figure out how to get these media controls to work...
:) Good to hear! As for the media keys... :rolleyes: I don't think I've had any luck with that. Don't quote me on it, but I believe those are really only natively supported in Mac OS. But again, that's just based on what I've seen/heard - there may be a way.
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 14 December 2015, 16:42:37
Thanks! I think I'll get a TKL realforce or something. My gaming habits are too used to having ctrl in a conventional spot. Maybe I'll get an HHKB as a portable board. I think I would rather have a white version too. Something a bit more retro looking. Also, I'm thinking about looking into getting a plate milled from aluminum, then using UHMW polyethylene for the sliders, and sticking all of that in a Pok3r type case. I think that would be pretty cool.I just got my new HHKB Pro 2 in today!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G0jhUV4.jpg?1)
A couple of questions if anyone doesn't mind answer:
1. If I keep this on HHKB mode in Windows, what function does the modifier next to the spacebar serve? As far as I can tell, it doesn't do anything. Is there a way to remap this key?
2. WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO GET ONE OF THESE? I LOVE IT SO MUCH!
I've heard people say it should act as a windows key, but I myself have never been able to get it to do anything either.
I'd recommend dip switch 5 to swap the alt and modifier positions, makes it way more comfortable to press alt imo. There is also dip switch 4 to remap the left mod to a function key.
Did you try "Lite Mode" to get the Windows key to work? I think that's the setup that works for me (HHKB at home so can't check right now).
Just tried the lite ext and the modifiers now work as windows keys, thanks Hoff! Now if I could just figure out how to get these media controls to work...
:) Good to hear! As for the media keys... :rolleyes: I don't think I've had any luck with that. Don't quote me on it, but I believe those are really only natively supported in Mac OS. But again, that's just based on what I've seen/heard - there may be a way.
Curse you HHKB! I'm pretty sure I read something like that somewhere as well. Oh well, I can live without them :)I would totally agree, but my Mx board has Zealios, and it's the first board I ever built, so there is some serious sentimental value there. We will see. Either way, I will definitely be returning to the cupped rubber world as soon as I can afford to keep both boards!Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
I give it 3 days before that MX board is gone. Succumb to the almighty cup rubber :p
The smoothness here is just something else. like... WOW!
Feels like butter doesn't it haha I was just as amazed the first time I typed on my HHKB. While topre is wonderful, that sense of pride you feel while typing on a board you built is something I can totally understand. Alas I was wrong since I just saw your post up on mechmarket, but best of luck selling!
Of course, I'd have to learn CAD first, since I SUCK at modeling things in CAD at this point...
Post by: KaminKevCrew on Mon, 14 December 2015, 21:58:09
GAH!!! I can't decide on whether or not to keep this for serious typing, since it's so darn nice.
I do have one question for all of you HHKB people out there: I own a 60% that I built for myself as my first keyboard build. Anyway, when I put these two boards in the same vicinity as each other, I can't help but think to myself that the HHKB is smaller than my board, despite the fact that they have exactly the same size of footprint. Does this happen with anyone else and other, non-topre 60% boards? Or are you all just too cool to even think about MX compatible boards? /s
I like this thing a little too much. Now I just need to lube up the switches and put something on there to silence it, and it would be perfect. hmmmm... Having an almost silent board would be nice, but if I'm honest, I was kind of planning to use an alps build for that. Decisions decisions! This is hard.
Also, if I'm 100% honest, this post is so long, simply because of how much I'm enjoying the typing experience on this thing... Sorry!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:02:32
I think I need to take my FS thread down on /r/mechmarket. I'm starting to get somewhat used to this board, and it's just so... good.
GAH!!! I can't decide on whether or not to keep this for serious typing, since it's so darn nice.
I do have one question for all of you HHKB people out there: I own a 60% that I built for myself as my first keyboard build. Anyway, when I put these two boards in the same vicinity as each other, I can't help but think to myself that the HHKB is smaller than my board, despite the fact that they have exactly the same size of footprint. Does this happen with anyone else and other, non-topre 60% boards? Or are you all just too cool to even think about MX compatible boards? /s
I like this thing a little too much. Now I just need to lube up the switches and put something on there to silence it, and it would be perfect. hmmmm... Having an almost silent board would be nice, but if I'm honest, I was kind of planning to use an alps build for that. Decisions decisions! This is hard.
Also, if I'm 100% honest, this post is so long, simply because of how much I'm enjoying the typing experience on this thing... Sorry!
HHKB
^-^ Never apologize for loving the One True Board. ^-^
^-^ All is right with the world. ^-^
^-^ HHKB will guide you to nirvana. ^-^
HHKB
^-^ Never apologize for loving the One True Board. ^-^
^-^ All is right with the world. ^-^
^-^ HHKB will guide you to nirvana. ^-^
HHKB
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:14:29
I think I need to take my FS thread down on /r/mechmarket. I'm starting to get somewhat used to this board, and it's just so... good.
GAH!!! I can't decide on whether or not to keep this for serious typing, since it's so darn nice.
I do have one question for all of you HHKB people out there: I own a 60% that I built for myself as my first keyboard build. Anyway, when I put these two boards in the same vicinity as each other, I can't help but think to myself that the HHKB is smaller than my board, despite the fact that they have exactly the same size of footprint. Does this happen with anyone else and other, non-topre 60% boards? Or are you all just too cool to even think about MX compatible boards? /s
I like this thing a little too much. Now I just need to lube up the switches and put something on there to silence it, and it would be perfect. hmmmm... Having an almost silent board would be nice, but if I'm honest, I was kind of planning to use an alps build for that. Decisions decisions! This is hard.
Also, if I'm 100% honest, this post is so long, simply because of how much I'm enjoying the typing experience on this thing... Sorry!
I wasn't a huge fan of my HHKB until after I lubed it. Now I can't go back to any other board. Just sayin'. Give it another shot :)
Post by: Vimto on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:29:47
Also for me to get my windows key's to work i had my HHKB set in '-' mode with both SW1 and SW2 set to ON.
My other HHKB has hasu's alt controller, which is amazing and definitely recommended.
Being able to type on my phone using my HHKB is phenomenal.
Post by: phruitpie on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:40:32
I think I need to take my FS thread down on /r/mechmarket. I'm starting to get somewhat used to this board, and it's just so... good.
GAH!!! I can't decide on whether or not to keep this for serious typing, since it's so darn nice.
I do have one question for all of you HHKB people out there: I own a 60% that I built for myself as my first keyboard build. Anyway, when I put these two boards in the same vicinity as each other, I can't help but think to myself that the HHKB is smaller than my board, despite the fact that they have exactly the same size of footprint. Does this happen with anyone else and other, non-topre 60% boards? Or are you all just too cool to even think about MX compatible boards? /s
I like this thing a little too much. Now I just need to lube up the switches and put something on there to silence it, and it would be perfect. hmmmm... Having an almost silent board would be nice, but if I'm honest, I was kind of planning to use an alps build for that. Decisions decisions! This is hard.
Also, if I'm 100% honest, this post is so long, simply because of how much I'm enjoying the typing experience on this thing... Sorry!
Cup rubber never fails :) glad to hear you're liking it. I too own a custom mx board, but I find that they're nearly identically sized.
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Post by: ideus on Mon, 14 December 2015, 22:46:15
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:02:59
I would totally agree, but my Mx board has Zealios, and it's the first board I ever built, so there is some serious sentimental value there. We will see. Either way, I will definitely be returning to the cupped rubber world as soon as I can afford to keep both boards!Well, I just got the HHKb in the mail today, and my god, cupped rubber really is something else. This is an incredibly strange feeling that I'm having right now. I don't know how to feel about cupped rubber, or MX anymore... I like it so far, the smoothness is incredible, and I really like the sounds, ugh!!! Getting used to this new layout is going to take a bit, but I'm liking it so far.
Also, it's very stealthy, being that my MX board is bright blue with white keycaps, and this one is black with printed caps.
I bought this board with the intention of selling this, or the MX board, and my decision is now very difficult, indeed.
I give it 3 days before that MX board is gone. Succumb to the almighty cup rubber :p
The smoothness here is just something else. like... WOW!
You'll probably end up keeping both keyboards.
And getting yourself a Model M and/or Model F too.
Like most of the rest of us.
Post by: ajx on Wed, 16 December 2015, 16:06:24
HHKB Pro 2 silenced mod with landing pads but i noticed something wrong on ; key
It doesnt feel right to me, this key sounds a bit rattle and produces a click sound, it sounds like the slider hits something before the plate
Could be a landing pad moved out and struggling on the top of slider?
Thanks
Post by: keshley on Thu, 17 December 2015, 08:10:38
https://vid.me/MrPS
HHKB Pro 2 silenced mod with landing pads but i noticed something wrong on ; key
It doesnt feel right to me, this key sounds a bit rattle and produces a click sound, it sounds like the slider hits something before the plate
Could be a landing pad moved out and struggling on the top of slider?
Thanks
Dome could be misaligned. Either way, will have to take it apart again to fix it. I'm at the point where I wish PFU had made the case like the Realforce, three fewer screws to mess with.
Post by: slushi on Thu, 17 December 2015, 09:12:25
https://vid.me/MrPSSounds like the spring isn't seated correctly under the dome. Does the key register?
HHKB Pro 2 silenced mod with landing pads but i noticed something wrong on ; key
It doesnt feel right to me, this key sounds a bit rattle and produces a click sound, it sounds like the slider hits something before the plate
Could be a landing pad moved out and struggling on the top of slider?
Thanks
Post by: ajx on Thu, 17 December 2015, 12:33:55
It was misaligned as keyshley suggested
Its pain in the ass for aligning all dome on the right position to the plate/pcb
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 17 December 2015, 12:44:34
Post by: ajx on Thu, 17 December 2015, 15:17:22
Another test, still some ''friction''
I think it comes from the spring
Post by: Altis on Thu, 17 December 2015, 16:51:56
https://vid.me/vIxP
Another test, still some ''friction''
I think it comes from the spring
My stock HHKB sounds pretty similar to that. Quite a bit of friction, unlike either of my RF 87Us.
Going to lubricate the stems and see if that helps.
Post by: meow a cat on Fri, 18 December 2015, 12:14:30
(http://i.imgur.com/zjytnDU.jpg)
Post by: dan002 on Fri, 18 December 2015, 17:02:27
It's a lot easier to just flip the keys upside down and stick the domes in those then put the PCB on, than to actually put the domes on the PCB outright.
Bump.
Make sure you have something on each corner to lift the top board up. That way, the key caps will fall down making it easier to put the rubber domes on then the springs.
Post by: Anastasia on Fri, 18 December 2015, 19:59:45
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:03:01
(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
Post by: cyanidev on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:11:17
Post by: byker on Fri, 18 December 2015, 20:59:20
I got a couple PBT spacebars for my HHKB. Thought I was going to go all black caps, but I like the red spacebar for now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
Looks good! Maybe you need a blank red esc or ctrl to go along with it? ;)
should I get type-s or regular? considering I am planing to buy the realforce 55g as well.
It is totally preference based. Do you want a slightly quieter keyboard, and are you willing to pay the additional cost? Both regular and typeS hhkbs are great, so it really comes down to preference. You can always buy a regular hhkb and then silence it yourself after (although I prefer the Type S because it comes silenced nicely from the factory).
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:00:56
I got a couple PBT spacebars for my HHKB. Thought I was going to go all black caps, but I like the red spacebar for now.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
Looks good! Maybe you need a blank red esc or ctrl to go along with it? ;)should I get type-s or regular? considering I am planing to buy the realforce 55g as well.
It is totally preference based. Do you want a slightly quieter keyboard, and are you willing to pay the additional cost? Both regular and typeS hhkbs are great, so it really comes down to preference. You can always buy a regular hhkb and then silence it yourself after (although I prefer the Type S because it comes silenced nicely from the factory).
Thanks. If I keep the red spacebar, I will definitely add something else red to it. What that red thing will be is still up for discussion.
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:05:29
https://vid.me/vIxP
Another test, still some ''friction''
I think it comes from the spring
My stock HHKB sounds pretty similar to that. Quite a bit of friction, unlike either of my RF 87Us.
Going to lubricate the stems and see if that helps.
yeah this is a big difference between hhkb and realforce boards.
please share your results! :)
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:56:42
I got a couple PBT spacebars for my HHKB. Thought I was going to go all black caps, but I like the red spacebar for now.Mind if I buy the other pbt spacebar? :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 18 December 2015, 21:58:02
I got a couple PBT spacebars for my HHKB. Thought I was going to go all black caps, but I like the red spacebar for now.Mind if I buy the other pbt spacebar? :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
The other one is a black one so I'll definitely be hanging onto it. Sorry. :(
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 19 December 2015, 01:56:30
Its ok :'( :'(I got a couple PBT spacebars for my HHKB. Thought I was going to go all black caps, but I like the red spacebar for now.Mind if I buy the other pbt spacebar? :pShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/WlnHhzo.jpg)
The other one is a black one so I'll definitely be hanging onto it. Sorry. :(
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 December 2015, 03:28:05
should I get type-s or regular? considering I am planing to buy the realforce 55g as well.
Welcome to Geekhack!
Most (maybe slightly more than 50%) seem to prefer the non-silenced version - that Topre thock!
The thock is one thing that HHKB owners say most often that they like.
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 19 December 2015, 08:53:59
I haven't tried a silenced version, yet.should I get type-s or regular? considering I am planing to buy the realforce 55g as well.
Welcome to Geekhack!
Most (maybe slightly more than 50%) seem to prefer the non-silenced version - that Topre thock!
The thock is one thing that HHKB owners say most often that they like.
I want to so I can see if I'll miss the thock. Maybe I should buy the new ducky topre board.
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 19 December 2015, 14:52:10
but i guess if people like that upstroke sound, then you obviously don't want the silencing.
personally, i feel like the clack from the upstroke overwhelms the sound of the downstroke too much.
the dampening does not mess with the downstroke, and that's exactly the sound of topre switches that i like so much :)
non-silenced definitely has its charm, but for me it's the type-s RF and type-s HHKB :D
Post by: Connly33 on Sat, 19 December 2015, 15:04:11
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 19 December 2015, 15:13:58
To help prevent carpal tunnel syndrome, wrist posture can be more important the the choice of keyboard. It is important to keep the forearm, wrist, and hand in a straight line and not to use a wrist-rest while typing.
Post by: Connly33 on Sat, 19 December 2015, 15:39:27
The HHKB Pro 2 is my favorite keyboard, although I put quite a few others into my rotation. Although I like the solid feel of a plate-mounted Topre board such as the RF87U, I find the HHKB with its case-mounted switches to be less fatiguing, perhaps because it is more yielding.
To help prevent carpal tunnel syndrome, wrist posture can be more important the the choice of keyboard. It is important to keep the forearm, wrist, and hand in a straight line and not to use a wrist-rest while typing.
I had to get rid of my wrist wrest because when i get a bit tired i get lazy and rest my wrists on it while typing, so for me its better to just not have one, and i have been working on my typing posture which has helped. a lot of my issues are from an injury caused by a window at a young age and it not healing properly. I acctually like clear switches the most out of everything i've tried because i dont bottom them out, which is much less fatiguing for me. If i had someone near by with a HHKB id borrow it for a day or two to see how i like it. but when i have the money i may just get one, if i dont like it or the amount it helps me doesn't justify the cost for me i can always sell it.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 19 December 2015, 23:00:19
This rare variant, will make everyone in this thread turn their backs on the beloved HHKB haha.
Post by: Halverson on Sat, 19 December 2015, 23:03:42
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 December 2015, 23:06:46
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pvd1RQj.jpg)
This rare variant, will make everyone in this thread turn their backs on the beloved HHKB haha.
I like boxy things, but that one has a defective space bar.
And a few screws loose too.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 19 December 2015, 23:22:49
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pvd1RQj.jpg)
This rare variant, will make everyone in this thread turn their backs on the beloved HHKB haha.
I like boxy things, but that one has a defective space bar.
And a few screws loose too.
It takes a lot to make an HHKB not a sex symbol. This case does it though.
Post by: Hypersphere on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:27:48
[attachimg=1]
Topre blue alphanumberics and blank red Esc, PFU white cursor diamond, matt3o PBT spacebar, Hypersphere Silencing Rings.
Out of many keyboards, this HHKB Pro 2 is the one I use most often.
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:31:38
My latest microvariation
wait.. blank black keycaps?
edit: never knew there was a blank black version! kinda wish i didn't know :))
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:40:39
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:44:04
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:48:49
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/284c9104393e3b73200813c5402853cd.jpg)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:52:49
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/284c9104393e3b73200813c5402853cd.jpg)
We doing pics now?
Pro 1 love <3
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22155000630_d3ef3a519c_k.jpg)
HHKB Pro + KeyKollectiv (https://flic.kr/p/zKLaPu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr
I may need to buy a pro 1. I'm starting a hhkb collection.
+1 :thumb:
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:53:58
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/284c9104393e3b73200813c5402853cd.jpg)
We doing pics now?
Pro 1 love <3Show Image(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22155000630_d3ef3a519c_k.jpg)
HHKB Pro + KeyKollectiv (https://flic.kr/p/zKLaPu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on FlickrI may need to buy a pro 1. I'm starting a hhkb collection.
+1 :thumb:
Yea boy! I need a white pro 1! My little guys a little beat up, but paid like $100 for it :P
Oh, did I mention mind is 30g silent? Hehe
Post by: retrochick on Mon, 21 December 2015, 12:57:49
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/284c9104393e3b73200813c5402853cd.jpg)
We doing pics now?
Pro 1 love <3Show Image(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22155000630_d3ef3a519c_k.jpg)
HHKB Pro + KeyKollectiv (https://flic.kr/p/zKLaPu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on FlickrI may need to buy a pro 1. I'm starting a hhkb collection.
+1 :thumb:
Yea boy! I need a white pro 1! My little guys a little beat up, but paid like $100 for it :P
Oh, did I mention mind is 30g silent? Hehe
pls do typign vid. 30g silent :drool:
Post by: Halverson on Mon, 21 December 2015, 13:00:28
WHOA, NO PRO 1 LOVE?
/me loves Pro 1 perhaps more than Pro 2Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/21/284c9104393e3b73200813c5402853cd.jpg)
We doing pics now?
Pro 1 love <3Show Image(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22155000630_d3ef3a519c_k.jpg)
HHKB Pro + KeyKollectiv (https://flic.kr/p/zKLaPu) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on FlickrI may need to buy a pro 1. I'm starting a hhkb collection.
+1 :thumb:
Yea boy! I need a white pro 1! My little guys a little beat up, but paid like $100 for it :P
Oh, did I mention mind is 30g silent? Hehe
pls do typign vid. 30g silent :drool:
It's loud and thocky
Post by: Hypersphere on Mon, 21 December 2015, 16:12:23
There are two "black" versions of the HHKB Pro 2 currently available. One is printed (black on dark gray) and the other is non-printed (dark gray). You can also still get black or blank black keycap sets for the HHKB Pro 2.My latest microvariation
wait.. blank black keycaps?
edit: never knew there was a blank black version! kinda wish i didn't know :))
Post by: Dreace on Tue, 22 December 2015, 11:57:52
Just got my HHKB! I'm already in love.
It just feels, I have to quote the Keychatter review here, "like piano keys". This Keyboard is awesome!
Post by: mason on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:10:00
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 12:14:58
My latest microvariation:
(Attachment Link)
Topre blue alphanumberics and blank red Esc, PFU white cursor diamond, matt3o PBT spacebar, Hypersphere Silencing Rings.
Out of many keyboards, this HHKB Pro 2 is the one I use most often.
Where did you get those yellow keys? Did you dye them yourself?
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:23:23
I do have some definite yellow Topre caps that I bought as a complete set on eBay, but these complete sets in various colors (white, yellow, red, blue, green) have become scarce to non-existent. I hope that Topre will decide to re-issue their previous sets and introduce some new ones as well.
Post by: ajx on Tue, 22 December 2015, 13:37:35
I have both blank dark grey HHKB and printed dark grey
Blank keyboard look gorgeous while dark printed legend doesnt look so nice anymore
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 22 December 2015, 18:59:06
(Attachment Link)
Just got my HHKB! I'm already in love.
It just feels, I have to quote the Keychatter review here, "like piano keys". This Keyboard is awesome!
Welcome to Geekhack!
Nice keyboard :)
Nice desk!
There's also a thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54506.0) if you want to post more pictures of your watch.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 22 December 2015, 19:07:59
@Ideus: They are stock white keys from a white HHKB. They look yellow because I use low-wattage incandescent task lamps in my study, and under those lights, the white takes on a yellow cast. I also use a potato camera on "auto" with no proper compensation for white balance. The other colors in the pic (red, blue, black/dark gray) look about the way they should.
I do have some definite yellow Topre caps that I bought as a complete set on eBay, but these complete sets in various colors (white, yellow, red, blue, green) have become scarce to non-existent. I hope that Topre will decide to re-issue their previous sets and introduce some new ones as well.
Thank you for the explanation, they look great and in a very creative way, congrats.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 23 December 2015, 23:05:12
(http://i.imgur.com/O5ZFtvg.jpg)
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 24 December 2015, 01:21:10
All high quality recommendations welcome except for recommending that I flip the spacebar.
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 24 December 2015, 01:27:52
I will soon be joining the elite ranks of Type-S owners. Please post recommendations on how to best savour and enhance my experience as well as my exit from plebdom.Hasu bluetooth controller
All high quality recommendations welcome except for recommending that I flip the spacebar.
custom paracord cable
lube so no whistling issue
PBT spacebar
dome swapping if you like heavier dome like 55g but I don't recommend it tho
all them artisan and caps for topre
that's all bro hope you enjoy being in the dark side
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 24 December 2015, 03:28:32
I will soon be joining the elite ranks of Type-S owners. Please post recommendations on how to best savour and enhance my experience as well as my exit from plebdom.
hasu controller, blank caps, pbt spacebar, lube if you dislike the gritty strokes of the hhkb
Post by: Madeupword on Thu, 24 December 2015, 03:40:07
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 24 December 2015, 04:01:38
Hey lads, where did you purchase your HHKB from?the store duh.
elitekeyboard.com have then in stock
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 24 December 2015, 09:15:22
HHKBokehShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/O5ZFtvg.jpg)
I love the black on white, all the photos of these make me wish I got a white HHKB instead of a black. Maybe I need a second HHKB...
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 24 December 2015, 10:17:19
Hey lads, where did you purchase your HHKB from?
if you live in the US, elitekeyboards.com is probably the cheapest. otherwise, you might want to look into a proxy.
the geekhack user Evo_Spec helped me proxy my HHKB to me, which went extremely smooth. i recommend approaching him if you're thinking about using a proxy.
for me, it was way cheaper doing it this way, now i don't have to cry every time i look at my HHKB :))
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 24 December 2015, 10:18:51
Hey lads, where did you purchase your HHKB from?
if you live in the US, elitekeyboards.com is probably the cheapest. otherwise, you might want to look into a proxy.
the geekhack user Evo_Spec helped me proxy my HHKB to me, which went extremely smooth. i recommend approaching him if you're thinking about using a proxy.
for me, it was way cheaper doing it this way, now i don't have to cry every time i look at my HHKB :))
Also take a look at the classifieds or mechmarket, can usually find ones in good shape or fairly new around $180 shipped. If you want brand new though, elitekeyboards.com is the way to go
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 10:39:14
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 24 December 2015, 11:37:32
Some projects on the back burner include building 60% keyboards with a HHKB layout but using Alps, Matias, or purple Zealio 65g switches. It will be interesting to find out if I like these combinations as well as the genuine HHKB Pro 2.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 24 December 2015, 11:42:12
For me, the HHKB Pro 2 experience is the unification of the 60% form factor, Prof. Wada's layout, Topre switches, beautiful PBT keycaps, and overall styling and design. If one thing dominates for me, it is the layout. I think if I were not going to use the Wada layout, I might seek the Topre experience through other keyboards, such as the Leopold FC660C or the RF87U.
Some projects on the back burner include building 60% keyboards with a HHKB layout but using Alps, Matias, or purple Zealio 65g switches. It will be interesting to find out if I like these combinations as well as the genuine HHKB Pro 2.
Basically, this.
I do like the original Professional more than the 2 though. The logo is great and I don't have the useless USB hub on the back.
Post by: Dreace on Thu, 24 December 2015, 15:13:37
(Attachment Link)
Just got my HHKB! I'm already in love.
It just feels, I have to quote the Keychatter review here, "like piano keys". This Keyboard is awesome!
Welcome to Geekhack!
Nice keyboard :)
Nice desk!
There's also a thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54506.0) if you want to post more pictures of your watch.
Thanks for the welcome! :)
Also Happy Holidays guys!
Post by: trenzafeeds on Thu, 24 December 2015, 19:19:46
Post by: Madeupword on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:17:10
Also take a look at the classifieds or mechmarket, can usually find ones in good shape or fairly new around $180 shipped. If you want brand new though, elitekeyboards.com is the way to go
the store duh.
elitekeyboard.com have then in stock
if you live in the US, elitekeyboards.com is probably the cheapest. otherwise, you might want to look into a proxy.Alrighty! Few questions,
the geekhack user Evo_Spec helped me proxy my HHKB to me, which went extremely smooth. i recommend approaching him if you're thinking about using a proxy.
for me, it was way cheaper doing it this way, now i don't have to cry every time i look at my HHKB :))
1. Anyone pairing the HHKB Pro2 with a Logitech MX Master mouse?
2. Anyone prefer the HHKB Pro2 more than the Type S?
3. Anyone using Bluetooth with their HHKB Pro2? If so, how? Hasu's controller require a separate purchase for the battery and the Enebrick seem to lack power.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 24 December 2015, 22:37:56
I am getting more used to the lightness of the keys (I tend to use heavier switches). I like this board a lot. Still not gonna go crazy and sell all my mx boards though I think.You will :p
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 24 December 2015, 23:25:14
I am getting more used to the lightness of the keys (I tend to use heavier switches). I like this board a lot. Still not gonna go crazy and sell all my mx boards though I think.You will :p
Yeah, give it some time. You probably won't sell them because it would mean admitting defeat, but you'll consider it.
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 25 December 2015, 02:08:33
1. Anyone pairing the HHKB Pro2 with a Logitech MX Master mouse?
2. Anyone prefer the HHKB Pro2 more than the Type S?
3. Anyone using Bluetooth with their HHKB Pro2? If so, how? Hasu's controller require a separate purchase for the battery and the Enebrick seem to lack power.
Merry Christmas everyone!
2. not me, but yes some people do.
but rather than listening to people their opinions, i would just google a ton of typing videos, and judge for yourself which sound you like more ^-^
can't help you with the other 2 questions, sorry. but merry christmas ;D
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 25 December 2015, 02:22:16
Alrighty! Few questions,
1. Anyone pairing the HHKB Pro2 with a Logitech MX Master mouse?
2. Anyone prefer the HHKB Pro2 more than the Type S?
3. Anyone using Bluetooth with their HHKB Pro2? If so, how? Hasu's controller require a separate purchase for the battery and the Enebrick seem to lack power.
Merry Christmas everyone!
1. I am when I'm on PC. Right now using the HHKB with Magic Trackpad 2 on my Mac.
2. If I have to choose 1 I would probably go with Type-S. But since I can't choose, I have both and switch them around everytime I feel like it.
3. I installed hasu's BT module on both my black Pro 2 and Type-S. Super stable and no lag whatsoever when typing. I just use the 1000mAh and it's good enough for my use. I think it lasted around 8-9 hours before I need to charge it again.
Post by: Madeupword on Fri, 25 December 2015, 05:02:57
1. I am when I'm on PC. Right now using the HHKB with Magic Trackpad 2 on my Mac.Honestly, how much of an audible difference is there between Pro2 and Type-S and which key is especially prominent? I've listened to some video comparisons and it seems the Spacebar and L-Shift are the main culprits while the other keys are a tad softer compare to their Pro2 counterparts. I can surely acknowledge in an open-plan workspace, the Type-S is the keyboard to type on.
2. If I have to choose 1 I would probably go with Type-S. But since I can't choose, I have both and switch them around everytime I feel like it.
3. I installed hasu's BT module on both my black Pro 2 and Type-S. Super stable and no lag whatsoever when typing. I just use the 1000mAh and it's good enough for my use. I think it lasted around 8-9 hours before I need to charge it again.
2. not me, but yes some people do.Ha! Yes on a different thread I replied to you that I've been on Youtube and now realise the greatness of ASMR.
but rather than listening to people their opinions, i would just google a ton of typing videos, and judge for yourself which sound you like more ^-^
can't help you with the other 2 questions, sorry. but merry christmas ;D
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 25 December 2015, 05:05:23
Yeah left shift and space do sound louder compared to other keys I have to agree.
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 25 December 2015, 07:33:27
I am getting more used to the lightness of the keys (I tend to use heavier switches). I like this board a lot. Still not gonna go crazy and sell all my mx boards though I think.You will :p
Agreed. Give it a bit more time. I went from pure MX to Topre and HHKB at work!
But when you decide to sell all of your MX boards, leave one for home ;D
Post by: ajx on Fri, 25 December 2015, 08:00:27
The difference is quite big IMO. Type-S sounds muffled while the normal one is super loud, the clacks is very prominent.I dont own Type-S but i know someone who tried stock, silenced mod and type-s, he said to me the stock one having the worst typing feeling
Yeah left shift and space do sound louder compared to other keys I have to agree.
I have both silenced mod and stock, i somehow agree, its day and night, silenced mod feels much more muffled, the provided sound is rather quieted.
The overal typing feeling is awesome
https://vid.me/mDgg
I uploaded a quick comparison between silenced mod vs stock
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 25 December 2015, 10:39:35
What silencing ring did you use? And does it make the same sound and feel of type s?The difference is quite big IMO. Type-S sounds muffled while the normal one is super loud, the clacks is very prominent.I dont own Type-S but i know someone who tried stock, silenced mod and type-s, he said to me the stock one having the worst typing feeling
Yeah left shift and space do sound louder compared to other keys I have to agree.
I have both silenced mod and stock, i somehow agree, its day and night, silenced mod feels much more muffled, the provided sound is rather quieted.
The overal typing feeling is awesome
https://vid.me/mDgg
I uploaded a quick comparison between silenced mod vs stock
Post by: ajx on Fri, 25 December 2015, 11:55:01
I don't know about the type s feeling but from i ve watched on youtube, i prefer the silenced modded HHKB
Mine looks pretty similar to this although its modded in 55g
The only thing i dislike on my silenced mod, its keys feels like having little friction on some keys when you type softly and try to not bottom out
Post by: Cicada88 on Sat, 26 December 2015, 15:29:25
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Sat, 26 December 2015, 15:46:29
should I get type-s or regular? considering I am planing to buy the realforce 55g as well.
I mean do you need it to be quieter? that is the only reason to pay $80+ more dollars so if not then I wouldn't go for the type S
Post by: Roibhilin on Sat, 26 December 2015, 16:00:45
EDIT: never mind, i forgot to undo a registry fix that replaced caps with ctrl so it was registering fn+tab as ctrl
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:10:48
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:13:17
Has anyone tried painting the stock case? I imagine it should be pretty simple.
switchnollie from here I believe has done it. He painted the case silver and it looks stunning.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:31:46
Has anyone tried painting the stock case? I imagine it should be pretty simple.
switchnollie from here I believe has done it. He painted the case silver and it looks stunning.
I have some spray-paint laying around, that'll be a nice project.
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 26 December 2015, 20:33:29
Has anyone tried painting the stock case? I imagine it should be pretty simple.
switchnollie from here I believe has done it. He painted the case silver and it looks stunning.
I have some spray-paint laying around, that'll be a nice project.
I'm such a sucker for modifying the outer look of my boards so even though it's boss as hell I think I'll pass. Hopefully those aluminium case gets produced properly later.
Post by: Madeupword on Sun, 27 December 2015, 06:00:32
1. How is the quality of the mini USB connector, do I need an angled mini USB adapter?
2. Where can I find/buy/receive two white Topre PBT spacebars?
A standalone drop by Massdrop doesn't seem likely.
Thank you guys and happy holidays!
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 27 December 2015, 06:03:15
Have decided to get a white HHKB Pro2, have two questions.I've been searching for topre PBT space bar for 2 months now. I think best bet is be like me search classified and hope you get one
1. How is the quality of the mini USB connector, do I need an angled mini USB adapter?
2. Where can I find/buy/receive two white Topre PBT spacebars?
A standalone drop by Massdrop doesn't seem likely.
Thank you guys and happy holidays!
the quality of the usb connector is good
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:11:11
Post by: DAVYtm on Sun, 27 December 2015, 09:51:47
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:08:27
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
It feels pretty much the same honestly. The upstroke is technically shorter now, but I can't feel the difference honestly.
Lubing it made a big difference in feel. Much smoother now, but not sloppy. I can't recommend it enough :thumb:
Post by: retrochick on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:11:18
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
It feels pretty much the same honestly. The upstroke is technically shorter now, but I can't feel the difference honestly.
Lubing it made a big difference in feel. Much smoother now, but not sloppy. I can't recommend it enough :thumb:
What makes hypersphere's rings the perfect combo with lubing the hhkb? I've lubed mine and love it so much more. What does adding the rings do?
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:15:54
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
It feels pretty much the same honestly. The upstroke is technically shorter now, but I can't feel the difference honestly.
Lubing it made a big difference in feel. Much smoother now, but not sloppy. I can't recommend it enough :thumb:
What makes hypersphere's rings the perfect combo with lubing the hhkb? I've lubed mine and love it so much more. What does adding the rings do?
Lubing it made it noticeably quieter, the silencing rings take care of the rest, as it makes what's left of the 'clack' on the upstroke much quieter, if not deeper than before. I personally love the sound now, and even running your hands over the keys it's noticeably quieter as well. This was the case with lubing it, however it also feels a bit more solid now.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:22:40
Lubing it made it noticeably quieter, the silencing rings take care of the rest, as it makes what's left of the 'clack' on the upstroke much quieter, if not deeper than before. I personally love the sound now, and even running your hands over the keys it's noticeably quieter as well. This was the case with lubing it, however it also feels a bit more solid now.
curious as to what lube you used.
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:25:50
Lubing it made it noticeably quieter, the silencing rings take care of the rest, as it makes what's left of the 'clack' on the upstroke much quieter, if not deeper than before. I personally love the sound now, and even running your hands over the keys it's noticeably quieter as well. This was the case with lubing it, however it also feels a bit more solid now.
curious as to what lube you used.
Should have mentioned that, sorry!
I used Krytox 103, applied with a fine bush to the 2 corner rails. Only used a tiny amount per rail.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:30:49
Post by: DAVYtm on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:39:02
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
It feels pretty much the same honestly. The upstroke is technically shorter now, but I can't feel the difference honestly.
Lubing it made a big difference in feel. Much smoother now, but not sloppy. I can't recommend it enough :thumb:
Guess I'll pick up some lube and give it a shot, thanks :)
Post by: dgneo on Sun, 27 December 2015, 10:43:40
Just finished installing Hypersphere's Silencing Rings, sounds so much better than before, it's the perfect combo with lubing it.
How do you like the feel? Been considering trying to get some, I can't see how anything could feel better than stock HHKB though
It feels pretty much the same honestly. The upstroke is technically shorter now, but I can't feel the difference honestly.
Lubing it made a big difference in feel. Much smoother now, but not sloppy. I can't recommend it enough :thumb:
Guess I'll pick up some lube and give it a shot, thanks :)
No problem! FWIW, I got mine from MrRooks, who still has a bit left I believe. Here's his sale thread. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69789.msg1676256#msg1676256)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 December 2015, 03:32:31
Have decided to get a white HHKB Pro2, have two questions.
1. How is the quality of the mini USB connector, do I need an angled mini USB adapter?
2. Where can I find/buy/receive two white Topre PBT spacebars?
A standalone drop by Massdrop doesn't seem likely.
Thank you guys and happy holidays!
1. Pretty much like most other mini USB connectors - fine if you're gentle with it and/or don't plug/unplug it often.
2. Apart from Massdrop, classifieds (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=59.0)?
Post by: ajx on Mon, 28 December 2015, 03:42:06
Both happens, either in silenced mod or stock HHKB although keys rattle too much in stock version
Otherwise, its one of best if not the best type feeling i ever experienced, layout seems to divide users, the lack of dedicated arrows sucks, fn should able to be toggled
I am between love and hate this layout, fortunately, i got Hasu mod and i have sightly modified the layout to my own taste
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 December 2015, 04:12:25
I know I do!
Post by: fanpeople on Mon, 28 December 2015, 04:29:52
Who doesn't bottom out on HHKB?
I know I do!
Bottom out confirmed
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 December 2015, 05:47:35
One of most downside of HHKB it feels scratchy when you tend to not bottom-out, i really dislike this kind of feelingYou can't "tend not to bottom-out topre" topre is not cherry
Both happens, either in silenced mod or stock HHKB although keys rattle too much in stock version
Otherwise, its one of best if not the best type feeling i ever experienced, layout seems to divide users, the lack of dedicated arrows sucks, fn should able to be toggled
I am between love and hate this layout, fortunately, i got Hasu mod and i have sightly modified the layout to my own taste
Post by: ajx on Mon, 28 December 2015, 07:47:51
But indeed, bottoming out on HHKB feel great especially when keyboard has been silenced
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:25:12
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:27:54
you must have a really girly hands :))
Not everyone does pushups on their finger tips ;)
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:33:10
lol made me laughyou must have a really girly hands :))
Not everyone does pushups on their finger tips ;)
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:34:53
lol made me laughyou must have a really girly hands :))
Not everyone does pushups on their finger tips ;)
You don't?
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 December 2015, 19:35:39
I really laugh tho :(lol made me laughyou must have a really girly hands :))
Not everyone does pushups on their finger tips ;)
You don't?
Post by: ImAWildDeer on Tue, 29 December 2015, 10:51:01
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 29 December 2015, 11:22:14
Post by: ImAWildDeer on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:04:30
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 29 December 2015, 12:22:05
bot: 45g type-s
(http://i.imgur.com/zJiIJiK.jpg?1)
my phone takes the best taters
Post by: byker on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:21:50
top: 55g type-s
bot: 45g type-sShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/zJiIJiK.jpg?1)
my phone takes the best taters
too dank son. Which do you prefer?
Post by: Lurch on Tue, 29 December 2015, 13:36:05
top: 55g type-s
bot: 45g type-sShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/zJiIJiK.jpg?1)
my phone takes the best taters
too dank son. Which do you prefer?
my kishsaver :p
jokes aside, the 55g was my daily driver for quite a while, but I find myself on the 45g more often nowadays as I usually have to type short novels for work. the 55g feels better, but bothers my hands after extended use.
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 30 December 2015, 08:16:48
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 30 December 2015, 08:26:53
^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Having tried both myself, I'd rather spend less money on the Silencing Rings than spend the extra ~$100+ for the Type-S version.
Post by: ImAWildDeer on Wed, 30 December 2015, 13:29:39
^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Boom roasted. I ended up buying a normal one and a set of rings. I will probably buy a Type-S to compare it to. While he may be just saying that he likes them better, since he sells them, it seems there are many fans of the Hypersphere rings around here.
Post by: crj3012 on Wed, 30 December 2015, 13:31:03
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:32:08
Post by: retrochick on Wed, 30 December 2015, 18:10:04
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 30 December 2015, 22:19:37
^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Having tried both myself, I'd rather spend less money on the Silencing Rings than spend the extra ~$100+ for the Type-S version.
it was about best result, not best price-to-quality ratio.
but to reply; most people are probably better off getting aftermarket rings, economically-wise.
however, installing the rings takes a lot of time, and some people think it's worth paying extra to have them do it for you at the factory.
unfortunately it's hard to find an unbiased review, especially since very few people own both a Type-S and a HHKB with aftermarket rings installed.
I posted this in the media forum but figured I would share my video recordings of an HHKB unlubed and with lube. The difference is very noticeable. I'm so pleased with the results that I don't have a need for silencing rings.
wow, that's quite a big difference. what lube have you used, and did you only lube the sliders? : )
edit: apparently i have actually damaged my case a little bit. i guess i've screwed in two of the screws a little bit too tightly, and it's caused the plastic holes to split apart, slightly. i didn't see it happen so i don't know for sure that it was me, but i doubt it came like this from the factory. so yeah, there's a tip: be gentle when screwing the PCB back on! ;D
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 31 December 2015, 13:26:49
I posted this in the media forum but figured I would share my video recordings of an HHKB unlubed and with lube. The difference is very noticeable. I'm so pleased with the results that I don't have a need for silencing rings.
Thats some ASMR stuff right there! ;)
It definitely sounds really close to me.. maybe a bit less "clink" on the rebound. But if its a smoother action, thats impressive on an already smooth "thunk" type of a board.
Post by: retrochick on Thu, 31 December 2015, 13:40:57
I used krytox 103 and lubed sliders and stabs.I posted this in the media forum but figured I would share my video recordings of an HHKB unlubed and with lube. The difference is very noticeable. I'm so pleased with the results that I don't have a need for silencing rings.wow, that's quite a big difference. what lube have you used, and did you only lube the sliders? : )
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 31 December 2015, 13:55:17
I just bought a set of hypersphere rings. Lets see how they work after I get them in my hhkb.^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Boom roasted. I ended up buying a normal one and a set of rings. I will probably buy a Type-S to compare it to. While he may be just saying that he likes them better, since he sells them, it seems there are many fans of the Hypersphere rings around here.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 31 December 2015, 15:18:41
Post by: ideus on Thu, 31 December 2015, 15:42:42
I can't say EXACTLY when yet, but look for the interview with Professor Eiiti Wada to show up sometime this week ::)
He is an awesome man that appears not aware of the celebrity level he has within keyboard aficionados. I wrote him this year to ask if he knows about an improved version of the HHKB and he said he is not involve with the manufacturer/designer anymore. It would be great to read your interview.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 31 December 2015, 15:46:57
I can't say EXACTLY when yet, but look for the interview with Professor Eiiti Wada to show up sometime this week ::)
He is an awesome man that appears not aware of the celebrity level he has within keyboard aficionados. I wrote him this year to ask if he knows about an improved version of the HHKB and he said he is not involve with the manufacturer/designer anymore. It would be great to read your interview.
One of the most humble and down to Earth people I've ever spoken too for sure. And yeah, it did seem like he was unaware of how much some of us really do still love the HHKB. Very few keyboards have such a dedicated following as it.
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:40:05
^I truly have tried to be objective, although clearly there is a reason for anyone to suspect bias. Of course, anyone can do a comparison for himself. The effect of the rings is similar between a Type-S HHKB and DIY-silenced HHKB, but I have noticed on my Type-S that the silencing seems not quite as even across the board as I have gotten with DIY silencing. I have not been able to do a comparison between a factory-silenced RF87U and DIY-silenced RF87U because I do not have a factory-silenced model, but I can say that silencing produces dramatic results. The before and after is the most dramatic on the CM Novatouch.
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
In fact, as others have discovered, there is a major improvement to be realized in Topre-switch keyboards by lubing the stabilizers and sliders. I have recently gotten the best results using Superlube 51010 oil. I apply it sparingly to just the slider rails using a small paintbrush. I do not put oil on the cylindrical part of the slider or switch housing. I also lubricate the plastic and metal contact points in the stabilzers. Finally, I have found that the spacebar sound can be deadened by placing self-adhesive squares of anti-skid foam rubber strips on top of the plate under the spacebar on each side of the spacebar switch.
So, for the best overall silencing, either install silencing rings or start with a Type-S, but also lube the stabilizers and switches and consider putting shock absorbers under the spacebar as well.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 31 December 2015, 16:49:18
^I truly have tried to be objective, although clearly there is a reason for anyone to suspect bias. Of course, anyone can do a comparison for himself. The effect of the rings is similar between a Type-S HHKB and DIY-silenced HHKB, but I have noticed on my Type-S that the silencing seems not quite as even across the board as I have gotten with DIY silencing. I have not been able to do a comparison between a factory-silenced RF87U and DIY-silenced RF87U because I do not have a factory-silenced model, but I can say that silencing produces dramatic results. The before and after is the most dramatic on the CM Novatouch.
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
In fact, as others have discovered, there is a major improvement to be realized in Topre-switch keyboards by lubing the stabilizers and sliders. I have recently gotten the best results using Superlube 51010 oil. I apply it sparingly to just the slider rails using a small paintbrush. I do not put oil on the cylindrical part of the slider or switch housing. I also lubricate the plastic and metal contact points in the stabilzers. Finally, I have found that the spacebar sound can be deadened by placing self-adhesive squares of anti-skid foam rubber strips on top of the plate under the spacebar on each side of the spacebar switch.
So, for the best overall silencing, either install silencing rings or start with a Type-S, but also lube the stabilizers and switches and consider putting shock absorbers under the spacebar as well.
I can also be found to have stated numerous times in the past that I prefer Hypersphere rings over the Type-S, and I don't sell them ;)
For me, pricing is important. I don't find the Type-S to be worth the cost, when Landing Pads and Hypersphere rings are an option. I had a Type-S for a long time, and just didn't ever love it. And for me to keep a $300+ keyboard, I have to LOVE it. Mine had whistling issues and generally wasn't great.
I also had silenced Pro's/Pro 2's with Hypersphere rings and EK Pads to compare. THe EK Pads can work quite well, but they take a ton of time and effort to get perfect. Ironing them, making sure they are all even, and trimming them can take hours for an HHKB, I wouldn't have the time to even consider using them on a RF. In the end, they do sound/feel pretty good. Hypersphere rings, while a bit pricier, are a better option than the EK Pads and the Type S IMO. They feel great, sound great, and generally get the job done.
Also, as Hypershere mentioned, there are benefits to DIY silencing as well. I also lube all of my Topre boards, so I end up having to take them apart anyways, meaning I might as well DIY silence them while I'm at it and save some money.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 31 December 2015, 17:20:40
Post by: derb2k2 on Thu, 31 December 2015, 17:32:35
I have a RF87 on the way so I'm going to order another set soon.
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 01 January 2016, 05:41:12
I can also be found to have stated numerous times in the past that I prefer Hypersphere rings over the Type-S
For me, pricing is important.
there are benefits to DIY silencing as well.
so, do you prefer hypersphere rings over the type-s because of the cost and "benefits", or do you think they actually make the board sound or/and feel better than a type-s?
Post by: Hypersphere on Fri, 01 January 2016, 08:44:01
Since the time that I have done the silencing mod on my HHKBs, I have done 3 Novatouch and 3 RF87U keyboards. Each time the result seems better. My most recent one was a RF87UB55; in addition to installing the rings, I lubed the stabilizers and all the switches with Superlube 51010 oil, and I put foam rubber shock absorbers under the spacebar. I also replaced the ABS spacebar with a PBT spacebar (from matt3o's efforts). I am typing on this RF now, and I really like how smooth and quiet it is.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 02 January 2016, 00:01:36
Post by: OfTheWild on Sat, 02 January 2016, 16:51:51
@Bucake: I've only tried one Type-S HHKB, and an "n" of 1 is insufficient for a statistical analysis, but based on the one Type-S that I tried in comparison to 3 standard HHKBs that I have modded with silencing rings, I did not like the Type-S as well in terms of sound and feel. In fact, I contacted EliteKeyboards about the uneven sound and feel of the keys in the Type-S, and they told me that this was typical. There is also the cost consideration, but the cost should include more than the cost of parts. You also need to put a value on your time and effort. When you do this, you might conclude that it is better to buy a ready-made Type-S rather than going to all the time and trouble of doing it yourself.
Since the time that I have done the silencing mod on my HHKBs, I have done 3 Novatouch and 3 RF87U keyboards. Each time the result seems better. My most recent one was a RF87UB55; in addition to installing the rings, I lubed the stabilizers and all the switches with Superlube 51010 oil, and I put foam rubber shock absorbers under the spacebar. I also replaced the ABS spacebar with a PBT spacebar (from matt3o's efforts). I am typing on this RF now, and I really like how smooth and quiet it is.
Was there a noticeable difference in the key change to the PBT? Is it simply that the material is thicker and thus has a lower sound?
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 02 January 2016, 17:24:06
Yep there is some notabel difference it makes a deeper sound@Bucake: I've only tried one Type-S HHKB, and an "n" of 1 is insufficient for a statistical analysis, but based on the one Type-S that I tried in comparison to 3 standard HHKBs that I have modded with silencing rings, I did not like the Type-S as well in terms of sound and feel. In fact, I contacted EliteKeyboards about the uneven sound and feel of the keys in the Type-S, and they told me that this was typical. There is also the cost consideration, but the cost should include more than the cost of parts. You also need to put a value on your time and effort. When you do this, you might conclude that it is better to buy a ready-made Type-S rather than going to all the time and trouble of doing it yourself.
Since the time that I have done the silencing mod on my HHKBs, I have done 3 Novatouch and 3 RF87U keyboards. Each time the result seems better. My most recent one was a RF87UB55; in addition to installing the rings, I lubed the stabilizers and all the switches with Superlube 51010 oil, and I put foam rubber shock absorbers under the spacebar. I also replaced the ABS spacebar with a PBT spacebar (from matt3o's efforts). I am typing on this RF now, and I really like how smooth and quiet it is.
Was there a noticeable difference in the key change to the PBT? Is it simply that the material is thicker and thus has a lower sound?
Post by: DAVYtm on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:00:33
Yep there is some notabel difference it makes a deeper sound@Bucake: I've only tried one Type-S HHKB, and an "n" of 1 is insufficient for a statistical analysis, but based on the one Type-S that I tried in comparison to 3 standard HHKBs that I have modded with silencing rings, I did not like the Type-S as well in terms of sound and feel. In fact, I contacted EliteKeyboards about the uneven sound and feel of the keys in the Type-S, and they told me that this was typical. There is also the cost consideration, but the cost should include more than the cost of parts. You also need to put a value on your time and effort. When you do this, you might conclude that it is better to buy a ready-made Type-S rather than going to all the time and trouble of doing it yourself.
Since the time that I have done the silencing mod on my HHKBs, I have done 3 Novatouch and 3 RF87U keyboards. Each time the result seems better. My most recent one was a RF87UB55; in addition to installing the rings, I lubed the stabilizers and all the switches with Superlube 51010 oil, and I put foam rubber shock absorbers under the spacebar. I also replaced the ABS spacebar with a PBT spacebar (from matt3o's efforts). I am typing on this RF now, and I really like how smooth and quiet it is.
Was there a noticeable difference in the key change to the PBT? Is it simply that the material is thicker and thus has a lower sound?
The smoothness of the ABS is something I really dislike, the PBT spacebar makes such a huge difference in feel for me
Post by: Moratorius on Sat, 02 January 2016, 18:39:49
I used krytox 103 and lubed sliders and stabs.Do you have any concerns about the consistency? I've seen others mix 103 with 205 grease.
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 02 January 2016, 20:44:43
Post by: ajx on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:14:24
Those screw holes on both side i assume?^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Having tried both myself, I'd rather spend less money on the Silencing Rings than spend the extra ~$100+ for the Type-S version.
it was about best result, not best price-to-quality ratio.
but to reply; most people are probably better off getting aftermarket rings, economically-wise.
however, installing the rings takes a lot of time, and some people think it's worth paying extra to have them do it for you at the factory.
unfortunately it's hard to find an unbiased review, especially since very few people own both a Type-S and a HHKB with aftermarket rings installed.I posted this in the media forum but figured I would share my video recordings of an HHKB unlubed and with lube. The difference is very noticeable. I'm so pleased with the results that I don't have a need for silencing rings.
wow, that's quite a big difference. what lube have you used, and did you only lube the sliders? : )
edit: apparently i have actually damaged my case a little bit. i guess i've screwed in two of the screws a little bit too tightly, and it's caused the plastic holes to split apart, slightly. i didn't see it happen so i don't know for sure that it was me, but i doubt it came like this from the factory. so yeah, there's a tip: be gentle when screwing the PCB back on! ;D
I did same thing, one of those screw hole has been cracked, i don't think it would change anything
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 04 January 2016, 12:15:18
it was about best result, not best price-to-quality ratio.
Yep, still standing by what I've said.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 January 2016, 13:39:20
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Post by: alexjd99 on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:21:25
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/That was awesome! Thanks for doing this for all of us, it was a great read :thumb:
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Post by: DAVYtm on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:41:15
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Great work as always man, fantastic read!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 04 January 2016, 17:43:16
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Great work as always man, fantastic read!
THanks! Glad it finally paid off. Took a while to back and forth with him with edits and stuff because he is so busy and probably had to get some of what we were asking translated. We also didn't want to put the interview out with something like the Metal Case and make it seem like we were using the interview to sell something, that would be no good haha
Post by: Madeupword on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:06:43
Currently looking at the Magic Keyboard to replace the Apple Wireless Keyboard, but at $99, I'm contemplating to purchase another HHKB Pro 2.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 January 2016, 19:09:48
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Fantastic!
Why am I not surprised that the Professor has a Mac mini, RPi and Macbook Air - all great accompaniments to an HHKB.
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:08:06
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Great work as always man, fantastic read!
THanks! Glad it finally paid off. Took a while to back and forth with him with edits and stuff because he is so busy and probably had to get some of what we were asking translated. We also didn't want to put the interview out with something like the Metal Case and make it seem like we were using the interview to sell something, that would be no good haha
Thats really cool! Thanks for posting it up.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:20:10
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Great stuff! Wish one of the community questions would've been about which switch he preferred between the OG HHKB and the current variation.
Post by: demik on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:21:41
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
ctrl + f "demik wants you to adopt him" 0 of 0 found
much disappoint
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 04 January 2016, 23:44:19
Yep me too.Those screw holes on both side i assume?^
of course he's gonna say that he prefers the rings that he sells...
Having tried both myself, I'd rather spend less money on the Silencing Rings than spend the extra ~$100+ for the Type-S version.
it was about best result, not best price-to-quality ratio.
but to reply; most people are probably better off getting aftermarket rings, economically-wise.
however, installing the rings takes a lot of time, and some people think it's worth paying extra to have them do it for you at the factory.
unfortunately it's hard to find an unbiased review, especially since very few people own both a Type-S and a HHKB with aftermarket rings installed.I posted this in the media forum but figured I would share my video recordings of an HHKB unlubed and with lube. The difference is very noticeable. I'm so pleased with the results that I don't have a need for silencing rings.
wow, that's quite a big difference. what lube have you used, and did you only lube the sliders? : )
edit: apparently i have actually damaged my case a little bit. i guess i've screwed in two of the screws a little bit too tightly, and it's caused the plastic holes to split apart, slightly. i didn't see it happen so i don't know for sure that it was me, but i doubt it came like this from the factory. so yeah, there's a tip: be gentle when screwing the PCB back on! ;D
I did same thing, one of those screw hole has been cracked, i don't think it would change anything
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 January 2016, 12:05:17
ironed landing pads from EK
I don't know about the type s feeling but from i ve watched on youtube, i prefer the silenced modded HHKB
Mine looks pretty similar to this although its modded in 55g
The only thing i dislike on my silenced mod, its keys feels like having little friction on some keys when you type softly and try to not bottom out
Ha, i thought the back of those hands looked familiar. Maybe there is something to that saying...
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:22:09
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:22:27
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:24:27
Picked up one of these last month. Absolutely love it; it's my new daily driver. The layout is literally perfect for me with dip switches 3 and 5 on.You should get hasu controller to make it better ^-^
I use the BT one and couldn't be any happier :thumb:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:28:03
Picked up one of these last month. Absolutely love it; it's my new daily driver. The layout is literally perfect for me with dip switches 3 and 5 on.You should get hasu controller to make it better ^-^
I use the BT one and couldn't be any happier :thumb:
I had one and never used it. Still have the controller somewhere around here. The layout just didn't need any further changes as far as i was concerned. Great product though.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:43:46
I use it because I use dvorak so whenever I use someone else computer I don't need to change setting in the computer just plug and play :pPicked up one of these last month. Absolutely love it; it's my new daily driver. The layout is literally perfect for me with dip switches 3 and 5 on.You should get hasu controller to make it better ^-^
I use the BT one and couldn't be any happier :thumb:
I had one and never used it. Still have the controller somewhere around here. The layout just didn't need any further changes as far as i was concerned. Great product though.
Post by: jerue on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:49:00
Just need some artisan to make my board end game hhkb :p. Trying to sold this board but in the end I can't part away with this board, silly me said that custom will be better than hhkb :))
*still wants to buy KMAC and 5k :rolleyes:
As much as I want to debate trying out a HHKB again I don't think I can deal with the plastic :(
I'd probably go 55g and if possible acquire a silenced Realforce or 2 for the sliders.
Aluminum RF > all
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:52:36
Yep i've decided to keep topre. I never tried alu realforce because the case is near impossible to find where do you find yours? Yep 5k and custom or model f to finish my addiction :pJust need some artisan to make my board end game hhkb :p. Trying to sold this board but in the end I can't part away with this board, silly me said that custom will be better than hhkb :))
*still wants to buy KMAC and 5k :rolleyes:
As much as I want to debate trying out a HHKB again I don't think I can deal with the plastic :(
I'd probably go 55g and if possible acquire a silenced Realforce or 2 for the sliders.
Aluminum RF > all
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 06 January 2016, 03:20:45
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:00:17
I want to ask you guys do your hhkb make some spring sound? cause mine does
When typing? Nope.
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:14:27
fixed it. Its because the screw on the pcb are not screwed nicelyI want to ask you guys do your hhkb make some spring sound? cause mine does
When typing? Nope.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:15:11
fixed it. Its because the screw on the pcb are not screwed nicelyI want to ask you guys do your hhkb make some spring sound? cause mine does
When typing? Nope.
Easy fixes are good :D
Post by: ajx on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:56:21
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 06 January 2016, 04:59:15
Tightening screws until you feel a resistance right?Yep
Post by: DaveW on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:26:47
(http://i.imgur.com/K64lbYf.jpg)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 06 January 2016, 08:56:09
I bought my HHKB second-hand and the only flaw that I've seen is this broken middle tab on the front of the case. It doesn't affect the device at all but I'd like to fix it if I can. What would be the best way to repair this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K64lbYf.jpg)
Id start with just a touch of epoxy.
Post by: meow a cat on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:00:10
(http://i.imgsafe.org/53028b4.jpg)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 06 January 2016, 09:20:02
I bought my HHKB second-hand and the only flaw that I've seen is this broken middle tab on the front of the case. It doesn't affect the device at all but I'd like to fix it if I can. What would be the best way to repair this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K64lbYf.jpg)
Id start with just a touch of epoxy.
Be careful with any glue that is low-viscosity. Like don't use super glue. Some good two-part epoxy, mixed together, then applied with a toothpick would work I think.
Post by: DaveW on Wed, 06 January 2016, 12:08:03
I bought my HHKB second-hand and the only flaw that I've seen is this broken middle tab on the front of the case. It doesn't affect the device at all but I'd like to fix it if I can. What would be the best way to repair this?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/K64lbYf.jpg)
Id start with just a touch of epoxy.
Be careful with any glue that is low-viscosity. Like don't use super glue. Some good two-part epoxy, mixed together, then applied with a toothpick would work I think.
Thanks guys. I figured it would be some type of epoxy but was worried about using the wrong thing.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 07 January 2016, 12:16:39
(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Exactly like him
Why does the spring makes such ****ing sound, its very loud, i can clearly distinguish louder ping and normal ping
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 07 January 2016, 15:12:59
WIP. Need two caps to finish, Bloodpact BBv2 and Bloodpact Reaper v1. Don't ever expect to find that reaper, but a man can hope!
Post by: Macsmasher on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:38:13
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/38eVs04.jpg)
WIP. Need two caps to finish, Bloodpact BBv2 and Bloodpact Reaper v1. Don't ever expect to find that reaper, but a man can hope!
I like your wrist rest. Is that Tiger Maple?
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:44:43
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/38eVs04.jpg)
WIP. Need two caps to finish, Bloodpact BBv2 and Bloodpact Reaper v1. Don't ever expect to find that reaper, but a man can hope!
I like your wrist rest. Is that Tiger Maple?
The vendor has it listed as Walnut Brown
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 07 January 2016, 16:44:59
https://www.keychatter.com/2016/01/04/interview-professor-eiiti-wada-creator-of-the-hhkb/Thanks so much for this! Professor Wada has certainly changed the way I do things. I use the HHKB Pro 2 most of the time, but even when using other keyboards in my rotation, I remap them to something as close as possible to the HHKB layout. It is great to see his own words about his creation.
FINALLY the interview has been published on Massdrop!
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 00:37:46
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 January 2016, 00:55:10
How much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:00:35
Thank you rowdy :thumb:How much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
What about the use of its feet?
Post by: SunTanScanMan on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:04:52
Recently purchased this keyboard in black. I had been using a full size Das Model S Professional with Browns. The transition hasn't been as difficult as I had expected.
I wanted more desk room and also wanted to try out the topre switches. So far they're not a million miles away from browns, except being stiffer. The keys seem to push up much faster which makes the typing experience more enjoyable, along with the sound.
I originally purchased the Realforce, but cancelled and purchased the HHKB purely in terms of aesthetics. Hope to try that kb in the future though.
Post by: Solo on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:06:43
Hi all, new member here.
Recently purchased this keyboard in black. I had been using a full size Das Model S Professional with Browns. The transition hasn't been as difficult as I had expected.
I wanted more desk room and also wanted to try out the topre switches. So far they're not a million miles away from browns, except being stiffer. The keys seem to push up much faster which makes the typing experience more enjoyable, along with the sound.
I originally purchased the Realforce, but cancelled and purchased the HHKB purely in terms of aesthetics. Hope to try that kb in the future though.
Welcome to GH. :)
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:09:38
Hi all, new member here.Wellcome to GH hhkb is a really really good keyboard hope you enjoy it
Recently purchased this keyboard in black. I had been using a full size Das Model S Professional with Browns. The transition hasn't been as difficult as I had expected.
I wanted more desk room and also wanted to try out the topre switches. So far they're not a million miles away from browns, except being stiffer. The keys seem to push up much faster which makes the typing experience more enjoyable, along with the sound.
I originally purchased the Realforce, but cancelled and purchased the HHKB purely in terms of aesthetics. Hope to try that kb in the future though.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:15:14
Hi all, new member here.
Recently purchased this keyboard in black. I had been using a full size Das Model S Professional with Browns. The transition hasn't been as difficult as I had expected.
I wanted more desk room and also wanted to try out the topre switches. So far they're not a million miles away from browns, except being stiffer. The keys seem to push up much faster which makes the typing experience more enjoyable, along with the sound.
I originally purchased the Realforce, but cancelled and purchased the HHKB purely in terms of aesthetics. Hope to try that kb in the future though.
If you hang around here for any length of time you'll probably end up with both keyboards! ;)
Post by: SunTanScanMan on Fri, 08 January 2016, 01:53:27
Enjoying the keyboard very much indeed. I had been interested in it for a while. Very happy to finally be using it. It is a lovely design indeed. More importantly, it is less bulkier and lighter on my desk and I have more room for books and documents. I can have my mouse nearer so it's a plus ergonomically too.
Hope to become a regular contributor to the forum and this thread. Cheers :thumb:
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 08 January 2016, 02:05:15
rowdys goin 20k congratsHow much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 January 2016, 04:33:48
rowdys goin 20k congratsHow much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Not yet.
Oh wait, I just did, didn't I?
Mwahahahaha :)) :D
Post by: sth on Fri, 08 January 2016, 04:36:21
rowdys goin 20k congratsHow much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Not yet.
Oh wait, I just did, didn't I?
Mwahahahaha :)) :D
congrats!
(http://i.imgur.com/MBkf90y.png)
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 08 January 2016, 04:39:08
rowdys goin 20k congratsHow much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Not yet.
Oh wait, I just did, didn't I?
Mwahahahaha :)) :D
congrats!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MBkf90y.png)
Thanks :)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 January 2016, 14:37:04
rowdys goin 20k congratsHow much incline does hhkb have? using feet and not using feet :thumb:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1785350#msg1785350
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40501.msg1860989#msg1860989
Not yet.
Oh wait, I just did, didn't I?
Mwahahahaha :)) :D
congrats!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MBkf90y.png)
Thanks :)
jeeeezeeee. :confused:
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 08 January 2016, 14:39:07
I still got ping from spring although i think it nicely alignedShow Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Exactly like him
Why does the spring makes such ****ing sound, its very loud, i can clearly distinguish louder ping and normal ping
Wait, your HHKB has ping from a spring? I've never had that before. Any way you can take a pic of it? (that was my pic btw, very curious how you are getting noise from the springs ha)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:02:45
Mind make that sound too I think Its because of the pcb not screwed tightly. After I received the lube that bunny sell I would open to see what makes that sound, but my hhkb just make spring noise when I press it hardI still got ping from spring although i think it nicely alignedWait, your HHKB has ping from a spring? I've never had that before. Any way you can take a pic of it? (that was my pic btw, very curious how you are getting noise from the springs ha)Show Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Exactly like him
Why does the spring makes such ****ing sound, its very loud, i can clearly distinguish louder ping and normal ping
Post by: ajx on Sat, 09 January 2016, 03:15:38
Yes HHKB does make ping, it comes from ping, alignment was nearly perfect because i ve made several alignments (many!)I still got ping from spring although i think it nicely alignedShow Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Exactly like him
Why does the spring makes such ****ing sound, its very loud, i can clearly distinguish louder ping and normal ping
Wait, your HHKB has ping from a spring? I've never had that before. Any way you can take a pic of it? (that was my pic btw, very curious how you are getting noise from the springs ha)
I will upload video
You can also hear the spring coming from stock HHKB but its way less noticeable
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
That's what i am talking about
Post by: Macsmasher on Sat, 09 January 2016, 04:28:28
Walnut brown may be the stain, but that doesn't look like Walnut to me. Nevertheless, I love it. I'm sure you enjoy it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/38eVs04.jpg)
WIP. Need two caps to finish, Bloodpact BBv2 and Bloodpact Reaper v1. Don't ever expect to find that reaper, but a man can hope!
I like your wrist rest. Is that Tiger Maple?
The vendor has it listed as Walnut Brown
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 09 January 2016, 04:50:54
Nah mine does not sound like that. Just a slight pinging noiseYes HHKB does make ping, it comes from ping, alignment was nearly perfect because i ve made several alignments (many!)I still got ping from spring although i think it nicely alignedShow Image(https://www.keychatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/keychatter_2015-07-21_21-01-33.jpg)
Exactly like him
Why does the spring makes such ****ing sound, its very loud, i can clearly distinguish louder ping and normal ping
Wait, your HHKB has ping from a spring? I've never had that before. Any way you can take a pic of it? (that was my pic btw, very curious how you are getting noise from the springs ha)
I will upload video
You can also hear the spring coming from stock HHKB but its way less noticeable
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
That's what i am talking about
Post by: ajx on Mon, 11 January 2016, 04:25:16
When i barely even hit the key, it starts repeating the key without stopping
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:22:03
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Nah, that title goes to RF10AE. :P ;)
HHKB is a close second though. :-*
Post by: livingspeedbump on Mon, 11 January 2016, 15:23:35
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Nah, that title goes to RF10AE. :P ;)
HHKB is a close second though. :-*
Will completely agree with this one.
Post by: Vimto on Tue, 12 January 2016, 09:22:02
Just ordered the Realforce 87 Anniversary Edition with 55g switches.
Let's see if i love it as much as my HHKB's
Post by: Bucake on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:04:24
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Nah, that title goes to RF10AE. :P ;)
HHKB is a close second though. :-*
but it has messed up legends... :(
Post by: Solo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:13:50
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Nah, that title goes to RF10AE. :P ;)
HHKB is a close second though. :-*
Haha, the 10th Anniversary is pretty damn sexy.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:18:35
The HHKB is the best looking stock keyboard EVER.
Nah, that title goes to RF10AE. :P ;)
HHKB is a close second though. :-*
but it has messed up legends... :(
Define "messed up". :P
You guys convinced me.
Just ordered the Realforce 87 Anniversary Edition with 55g switches.
Let's see if i love it as much as my HHKB's
YEEEEEEEE, good choice! Hopefully it hasn't been built up in your mind to a point where it can't live up to the hype. ;)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:26:57
Post by: Solo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:28:49
Brothers help me. My mind is wandering toward thoughts of owning a 55g Realforce. I would have to give up my HHKB to do so. Someone please tell me it would be a mistake.
It would be a mistake.
-Someone
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:51:35
Brothers help me. My mind is wandering toward thoughts of owning a 55g Realforce. I would have to give up my HHKB to do so. Someone please tell me it would be a mistake.
No can have both? :(
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 12 January 2016, 12:59:48
Brothers help me. My mind is wandering toward thoughts of owning a 55g Realforce. I would have to give up my HHKB to do so. Someone please tell me it would be a mistake.
No can have both? :(
Too many keyboards already. If I wanted both at the same time I'll have to wait a while, or I can sell/trade my HHKB now.
EDIT: This is in order to keep SWMBO happy.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:45:26
Too many keyboards already.
huh? I am not understanding this :confused:
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:49:24
Brothers help me. My mind is wandering toward thoughts of owning a 55g Realforce. I would have to give up my HHKB to do so. Someone please tell me it would be a mistake.
55g HHKB is the only option then
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 12 January 2016, 13:55:17
Too many keyboards already.
huh? I am not understanding this :confused:
Me either, but my wife says it's a thing apparently. :rolleyes:
Post by: Solo on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:29:04
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:34:21
Too many keyboards already.
huh? I am not understanding this :confused:
:)) :))
My addiction has now officially gotten out of control. I'm eyeing 3 new boards and two of them are ~200 each. Both topre, ofcourse.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:40:26
You're letting your wife tell you what you can and cannot do?Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)
(http://www.helloloser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/loser.gif)
You must be single. I don't like to upset my wife for no reason too many times. I just bought a keyboard and a few other sets of caps. It's about not pushing the limit too much.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:44:23
for no reason
But...you just said it was to buy a 55g RF, no?
Post by: demik on Tue, 12 January 2016, 15:44:36
Buy nothing but HHKBs and she will be proud of you and never be upset. She's only upset because you keep buying ****ty cherry.You're letting your wife tell you what you can and cannot do?Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://www.helloloser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/loser.gif)
You must be single. I don't like to upset my wife for no reason too many times. I just bought a keyboard and a few other sets of caps. It's about not pushing the limit too much.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 12 January 2016, 16:32:08
for no reason
But...you just said it was to buy a 55g RF, no?
Buy nothing but HHKBs and she will be proud of you and never be upset. She's only upset because you keep buying ****ty cherry.You're letting your wife tell you what you can and cannot do?Show Image(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ic97mPViHEG5O/giphy.gif)Show Image(http://www.helloloser.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/loser.gif)
You must be single. I don't like to upset my wife for no reason too many times. I just bought a keyboard and a few other sets of caps. It's about not pushing the limit too much.
(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/alison-brie-conventions-1.gif?w=650)
I hate both of you.
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 13 January 2016, 02:29:14
Brothers help me. My mind is wandering toward thoughts of owning a 55g Realforce. I would have to give up my HHKB to do so. Someone please tell me it would be a mistake.
You need both - they complement each other.
Post by: raymogi on Wed, 13 January 2016, 02:32:30
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 January 2016, 04:37:45
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 13 January 2016, 05:11:59
Bought a Topre artisan - oh no I have to buy a HHKB.
Oh no!
(https://49.media.tumblr.com/c0a882ae6e553c82d0b976f7169fa0d3/tumblr_nxkp4lSwpi1uozhz7o1_250.gif)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 January 2016, 05:25:19
Bought a Topre artisan - oh no I have to buy a HHKB.
Oh no!Show Image(https://49.media.tumblr.com/c0a882ae6e553c82d0b976f7169fa0d3/tumblr_nxkp4lSwpi1uozhz7o1_250.gif)
I don't need convincing at this point - just need money :))
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 13 January 2016, 06:39:46
I don't need convincing at this point - just need money :))
Welcome.
(http://media1.giphy.com/media/qjq62rckgi2as/200_s.gif)
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 15 January 2016, 03:05:36
Not sure I like the heavier keys need to play a bit more, but do love the blue keycaps. May have to transplant them onto my HHKB
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Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 06:36:20
Got my RF 87U 10AE 55g
Not sure I like the heavier keys need to play a bit more, but do love the blue keycaps. May have to transplant them onto my HHKB
(Attachment Link)
yep. I didn't expect the keypress to be so heavy too. I'm actually trying to sell mine to get the 45g. Part of me wants to keep it because it's the finest board I"ve owned.
I'd still take HHKB though :) :)
Post by: slushi on Fri, 15 January 2016, 09:08:43
Post by: TopreFan333 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 13:52:44
Got my RF 87U 10AE 55g
Not sure I like the heavier keys need to play a bit more, but do love the blue keycaps. May have to transplant them onto my HHKB
(Attachment Link)
yep. I didn't expect the keypress to be so heavy too. I'm actually trying to sell mine to get the 45g. Part of me wants to keep it because it's the finest board I"ve owned.
I'd still take HHKB though :) :)
I came to HHKB from a Cherry board that was supposedly the same actuation weight (45g), and the Topre switches definitely felt like a harder keypress -- I guess because the resistance is all at the top. I've come to love it, but it was a lot at first.
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 15 January 2016, 14:21:00
Got my RF 87U 10AE 55g
Not sure I like the heavier keys need to play a bit more, but do love the blue keycaps. May have to transplant them onto my HHKB
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yep. I didn't expect the keypress to be so heavy too. I'm actually trying to sell mine to get the 45g. Part of me wants to keep it because it's the finest board I"ve owned.
I'd still take HHKB though :) :)
I came to HHKB from a Cherry board that was supposedly the same actuation weight (45g), and the Topre switches definitely felt like a harder keypress -- I guess because the resistance is all at the top. I've come to love it, but it was a lot at first.
This is definitely what it is. I love typing on it but my pinky and ring finger feel the strain after typing for short bursts. This is mainly because I've done a lot of typing over my years and have had repeated bouts of mild RSI so I'm trying to avoid it and am not using it at the moment.
I'm definitely getting the 45g RF because I'm needing it for my job.
Post by: SunTanScanMan on Fri, 15 January 2016, 21:36:44
Got my RF 87U 10AE 55g
Not sure I like the heavier keys need to play a bit more, but do love the blue keycaps. May have to transplant them onto my HHKB
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yep. I didn't expect the keypress to be so heavy too. I'm actually trying to sell mine to get the 45g. Part of me wants to keep it because it's the finest board I"ve owned.
I'd still take HHKB though :) :)
I came to HHKB from a Cherry board that was supposedly the same actuation weight (45g), and the Topre switches definitely felt like a harder keypress -- I guess because the resistance is all at the top. I've come to love it, but it was a lot at first.
Coming from cherry browns, I'm experiencing exactly this currently. The keys also spring back up with more force. I tried browns after a few days on the HHKB, and they felt so light!
The typing experience on the HHKB is addictive, but I think I am still in the adjustment period. I also recently started training myself to use the correct fingers and placements when typing (I very rarely used my right pinkie and ring finger), so it adds to the slight fatigue on my right fingers.
Post by: TopreFan333 on Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:48:07
The typing experience on the HHKB is addictive, but I think I am still in the adjustment period. I also recently started training myself to use the correct fingers and placements when typing (I very rarely used my right pinkie and ring finger), so it adds to the slight fatigue on my right fingers.
Oh yeah. It took me a few weeks to get used to the feel and the layout. Now, honestly, the FN layer and arrows are second nature and it feels very natural to just keep my hands on the home row all the time. I still have to look to get PgUp and PgDn and Home and End right, but hopefully at some point those become second nature as well.
The only time I really miss being able to use F keys and arrows with one hand is when I'm casually browsing and using one hand to hold a drink or something (well away from the keyboard, duh) and I'd like to quickly do a page down or something. But otherwise, I couldn't be happier with this thing.
Post by: Vimto on Wed, 20 January 2016, 23:58:07
I also switch the delete key to backspace.
But I do love Control being in the proper place on the keyboard.
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 21 January 2016, 01:58:46
it's driving me nuts :/
i suppose all i can really do is lube those keys?
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 21 January 2016, 03:17:16
anyone know of a working/good way to really silence down the stabilized keys? in particular, the left shift..Yep lube those keys or you could just buy a hypersphere silencing ring and silence it
it's driving me nuts :/
i suppose all i can really do is lube those keys?
Post by: venyv on Thu, 21 January 2016, 06:34:42
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 21 January 2016, 06:50:52
My love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?
shhh just let it happen
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:08:45
My love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?
have you considered hasu's controller? it makes the thing programmable.
i wouldn't even have considered buying the hhkb if it wasn't for hasu's controller..
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:13:01
My love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?
have you considered hasu's controller? it makes the thing programmable.
i wouldn't even have considered buying the hhkb if it wasn't for hasu's controller..
What was your motivation for getting HHKB Pro 2 + Hasu over the RF87 or FC660C? I'm having similar difficulties with the lack of arrow cluster on mine, but I'm thinking it'd be best to go to something that has dedicated arrows. Well, actually, I do have the RF87U 55G locked in on Massdrop, so it's happening one way or another at this point, just curious as to why you (and many others) go down the Hasu path.
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:16:13
because the hasu controller have so many options for us hhkb users :pMy love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?
have you considered hasu's controller? it makes the thing programmable.
i wouldn't even have considered buying the hhkb if it wasn't for hasu's controller..
What was your motivation for getting HHKB Pro 2 + Hasu over the RF87 or FC660C? I'm having similar difficulties with the lack of arrow cluster on mine, but I'm thinking it'd be best to go to something that has dedicated arrows. Well, actually, I do have the RF87U 55G locked in on Massdrop, so it's happening one way or another at this point, just curious as to why you (and many others) go down the Hasu path.
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 21 January 2016, 08:29:26
I'll give you a similar situation. Since I've owned my Filco for 4 years, perhaps one day I'd get The Pegasus Hoof so I could change things up. However, if I were buying a brand new board, I would get the KUL, which has dip switches to change some commonly requested configurations, rather than Filco+Pegasus.
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 09:36:26
My love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?
How long have you had it? It took me a while to get used to the arrow keys to the point that I actually thought about going back to a TKL, but after enough time it became second-nature. I guess it depends on how often you use them as to how fast you'll adapt.
Post by: Hypersphere on Thu, 21 January 2016, 09:51:35
Post by: dan002 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 10:46:18
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 21 January 2016, 11:17:25
This time in white, and maybe type S.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 21 January 2016, 13:32:04
Yep, right when my brain thinks of using the arrow key, my right pinkie goes to the function key.
I agree with a_ak57. When I first got my HHKB Pro 2, it was very easy to adjust to the new positions of Backspace and Ctrl. The arrow keys took a bit longer, and I experimented with alternative mappings, such as ijkl and wasd, but I quickly found that the default cursor diamond, [;'/ was the way to go. Now, it is so ingrained that I use this mapping on all my other keyboards. So, for me, tools such as the hasu controller, hasu converter, Xwhatsit controller, and Soarer converter would not be for the HHKB, but rather to convert other keyboards to the HHKB layout. Nevertheless, for those who bought the HHKB for reasons other than the layout, it is good that an alternative controller exists.Without Hasu's Controller, i wouldn use HHKB as my only main keyboard
Few programs/games need arrow clusters without using fn+
Being programmable doesnt mean you attempt to modify entirely the original layout but it let users to use keyboards under some specific situations
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 21 January 2016, 17:27:42
I'm thinking of buying a third.Get it and be happy with it
This time in white, and maybe type S.
Post by: derb2k2 on Thu, 21 January 2016, 17:32:20
I'm thinking of buying a third.
This time in white, and maybe type S.
I'll be getting the all-white version soon after I get my 45g Realforce. I did have the white case but with blanks and then sold it off. I'll be keeping the next one as a back-up :cool:
Dat Type-S doe. :)
Post by: venyv on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:20:13
have you considered hasu's controller? it makes the thing programmable.
i wouldn't even have considered buying the hhkb if it wasn't for hasu's controller..
I did not consider hasu's controller but I may look into that, I was thinking of just buying a F660C instead.
Post by: venyv on Thu, 21 January 2016, 19:25:32
How long have you had it? It took me a while to get used to the arrow keys to the point that I actually thought about going back to a TKL, but after enough time it became second-nature. I guess it depends on how often you use them as to how fast you'll adapt.
I have had it about 3 months now, I thought I would get use to it but it just has not happened. I love everything else about the board.
Post by: venyv on Fri, 22 January 2016, 05:53:27
Post by: Vimto on Fri, 22 January 2016, 06:04:20
I decided to order one of the hasu boards and give that a try before I switch over to FC660C.
Using your HHKB for typing on your phone / iPad is heavenly. hasu's controller makes all this possible
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 22 January 2016, 06:12:32
I decided to order one of the hasu boards and give that a try before I switch over to FC660C.
ahhhhhhhhhhh such a good decision
so goodddddddd
Post by: slushi on Fri, 22 January 2016, 09:23:12
Post by: vegs on Fri, 22 January 2016, 13:48:45
(http://i.imgur.com/5zLS9qM.jpg)
Phone photos for now :cool:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 22 January 2016, 17:58:36
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 22 January 2016, 18:07:34
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2GK1P0a.jpg)
Nice. I always loved the white blank on black for HHKB. I need to get the white blanks again :)
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 22 January 2016, 20:41:46
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 22 January 2016, 20:53:51
I now have two Topre caps - I think it's time.
Sounds like it is time!
I really want to love HHKB but korean custom is really good
You're gonna regret giving up your HHKB for a Cherry board. Keep the HHKB and save your allowance until you can afford the custom you want.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Fri, 22 January 2016, 20:59:11
I now have two Topre caps - I think it's time.
Sounds like it is time!I really want to love HHKB but korean custom is really good
You're gonna regret giving up your HHKB for a Cherry board. Keep the HHKB and save your allowance until you can afford the custom you want.
Absolutely this. I would only ever want to really buy a new custom and build it myself.
Post by: Oxid on Fri, 22 January 2016, 21:45:08
I want to buy a Type-S now though, I think the B.Face will be used to fund my Type-S :(
Post by: KeypressGraphics on Sat, 23 January 2016, 04:34:39
My love for the HHKB is dying, I cant get adjusted to the arrow keys and its slowing me down. Anyone else having this issue?Perhaps I'm a little more set in my ways than most but it took me a good couple of months to fully adjust to my HHKB. For a long time I would have to look down at the board to find the Fn key and even then I'd occasionally press Return or L by mistake when trying to activate the arrow keys.
Now that I've adjusted, using the Fn layer arrow keys is automatic and I don't even have to think about it.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 23 January 2016, 04:37:30
Nah I think I just go with custom cause customs are rare bro and hhkb can be bought anytimeI now have two Topre caps - I think it's time.
Sounds like it is time!I really want to love HHKB but korean custom is really good
You're gonna regret giving up your HHKB for a Cherry board. Keep the HHKB and save your allowance until you can afford the custom you want.
Absolutely this. I would only ever want to really buy a new custom and build it myself.
Post by: Solo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 15:51:04
This ****head is selling a couple PBT spacebars on eBay for $30. UnREAL. $30. Of course the price has to be insane when I finally find a white one.
BTW I hope that guy on GH and sees this message.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:23:38
I've had the HHKB for ~2 or 3 weeks now, maybe a little less. I can't go back to MX. Built a B.Face with 65g Zealios before the HHKB arrived, which I thought I loved, but after typing on this beauty I don't know anything anymore. I never realized it before now, but the HHKB's placement of backspace is the best thing ever.
I want to buy a Type-S now though, I think the B.Face will be used to fund my Type-S :(
Welcome
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Post by: Rayoui on Sat, 23 January 2016, 16:58:50
I've had the HHKB for ~2 or 3 weeks now, maybe a little less. I can't go back to MX. Built a B.Face with 65g Zealios before the HHKB arrived, which I thought I loved, but after typing on this beauty I don't know anything anymore. I never realized it before now, but the HHKB's placement of backspace is the best thing ever.
I want to buy a Type-S now though, I think the B.Face will be used to fund my Type-S :(
I actually slightly prefer my B.face with ergo clears over my HHKB Type-S. That said, I do still love my HHKB and I use it every day at work. I reprogrammed my arrows/nav cluster/backspace on my B.face to be in the same locations as the HHKB.
Post by: Oxid on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:44:22
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pls send help. Deciding on 55g mod, or Type-S, (or if I really hate myself, and is possible, Type-S with 55g mod) is killing me slowly.
I actually slightly prefer my B.face with ergo clears over my HHKB Type-S. That said, I do still love my HHKB and I use it every day at work. I reprogrammed my arrows/nav cluster/backspace on my B.face to be in the same locations as the HHKB.
I haven't tried ergo clears, I'd be interested in trying. Tactility is the name of the game for me, and I've found nothing more tactile than topre though.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:09:01
Switches: Silenced 55g and 45g Topre; IBM capacitive buckling spring (Model F); Brown Alps; White Alps; Matias Click; Hi-Tek Space Invader Black (Clicky) or White (Tactile).
Form Factor: 60% and TKL.
Layout: HHKB.
Recently, I decided to try the KC60 with mx greens, which I programmed to a HHKB layout, but any type of Cherry mx is my least favorite switch. Nevertheless, I think I would like to try purple Zealio 65g and possibly Ergo clears.
Of the boards I currently own, my favorites are:
Silenced and lubed RF87UB55; Silenced and lubed HHKB Pro 2 Black with 55g domes. However, I like the same boards with silenced and lubed 45g switches almost as much. I like these better than my Type-S, mostly because I have not lubed it, and I much prefer the black case to the white case. I also use blank black mods and spacebar with blue alphnumeric keys.
Post by: Oxid on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:41:09
I agree with you on pretty much everything. Form factor, 60% is quickly becoming my favorite. I missed my desk space. Layout, HHKB is winning me over so much. When I go back to my B.face, I always hit backslash instead of backspace. HHKB's backspace is honestly in the best position ever.
Switches: I've only tried the 45g Topre, and buckling spring out of that list. Buckling Spring feels nice but it's much too loud for me, same reason I couldn't get behind blues, except multiplied. I REALLY like the Zealios out of all the cherry switches I've tried (again, no ergo clears). But again, I also now find them underwhelming now that I've been typing on topre switches. Like, criminally underwhelming. They are fantastic MX switches, but I think I'm leaving the MX world.
Topre's 45g feels perfectly heavy, much heavier than any 45g rated MX switch if that makes any sense. I like it, but I'm on the fence about doing the 55g mod, because this almost feels perfect and 55 might be too much?
My next goal is a Type-S, but I also much prefer black to the white cases. White seems out of place on my desk, which makes me sad because there's no black Type-S.
On that note, I see some people doing the silence mod, how does that compare to the Type-S?
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:01:16
Hypersphere, keep the rings coming bro :) I think i'll be broke by this time next year.
Post by: Oxid on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:12:56
On a side note, I knew the silence mod rings thing were called Hypersphere or something of the sort, didn't realize I was actually talking to the person that made them! lol
I want to try the ring silencing. I've heard sound tests on youtube, and it tickles my fancy quite a bit.
Post by: Hypersphere on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:35:53
@Oxid: See below for a pic of my HHKB Pro 2 with blue caps. This is one of the variants that has off-white arrow keys and a red Esc. At other times, I have all the alphanumerics in blue and an added red Fn key.
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I don't feel comfortable promoting my own product, but I have to admit that I do like the sound and feel of my HHKB with my Silencing Rings and lube better than the sound and feel of my Type-S. My preference is also biased in favor of the black case.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:37:05
Now I want to see it even more!
On a side note, I knew the silence mod rings thing were called Hypersphere or something of the sort, didn't realize I was actually talking to the person that made them! lol
I want to try the ring silencing. I've heard sound tests on youtube, and it tickles my fancy quite a bit.
ha yes it's Hyper. He made those rings for topre switch boards.
It might be a bit tedious when you first do it but it's fun taking apart a keyboard and modifying it. I recently put rings and lubed a realforce (which I sold) and the silencing was great.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:41:14
that's the one Hyper. DAmn you!The 1 thing that I hate when opening topre board is when you are finished modding it you need to assemble the conic springs and the rubber dome and that is really hard to do cause if you fail your board will have a really loud spring sound and that bothered the hell out of me and I have to open the board 1 more times to fix itNow I want to see it even more!
On a side note, I knew the silence mod rings thing were called Hypersphere or something of the sort, didn't realize I was actually talking to the person that made them! lol
I want to try the ring silencing. I've heard sound tests on youtube, and it tickles my fancy quite a bit.
ha yes it's Hyper. He made those rings for topre switch boards.
It might be a bit tedious when you first do it but it's fun taking apart a keyboard and modifying it. I recently put rings and lubed a realforce (which I sold) and the silencing was great.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:42:29
Unrelated to everything:Pm me :)
This ****head is selling a couple PBT spacebars on eBay for $30. UnREAL. $30. Of course the price has to be insane when I finally find a white one.
BTW I hope that guy on GH and sees this message.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:42:48
that's the one Hyper. DAmn you!The 1 thing that I hate when opening topre board is when you are finished modding it you need to assemble the conic springs and the rubber dome and that is really hard to do cause if you fail your board will have a really loud spring sound and that bothered the hell out of me and I have to open the board 1 more times to fix itNow I want to see it even more!
On a side note, I knew the silence mod rings thing were called Hypersphere or something of the sort, didn't realize I was actually talking to the person that made them! lol
I want to try the ring silencing. I've heard sound tests on youtube, and it tickles my fancy quite a bit.
ha yes it's Hyper. He made those rings for topre switch boards.
It might be a bit tedious when you first do it but it's fun taking apart a keyboard and modifying it. I recently put rings and lubed a realforce (which I sold) and the silencing was great.
happened my first time lubing my HHKB. I was already screwing in the case screws. I learned to test every key after putting the PCB. :D :D
Post by: Oxid on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:53:08
@derb2k2: Thanks for the kind words!
@Oxid: See below for a pic of my HHKB Pro 2 with blue caps. This is one of the variants that has off-white arrow keys and a red Esc. At other times, I have all the alphanumerics in blue and an added red Fn key.
(Attachment Link)
I don't feel comfortable promoting my own product, but I have to admit that I do like the sound and feel of my HHKB with my Silencing Rings and lube better than the sound and feel of my Type-S. My preference is also biased in favor of the black case.
That hurts me on the inside, it's so beautiful. Blank modifiers toooo, hnnnggg. That shade or hue of blue, oh jeez. And you should feel comfortable promoting it, it's a damned good product! I just went through some more videos, Derb2k2 was kind enough to send me one. That sounds exactly like I want it to! I must do this now, but I have to admit, I'm a little worried prying her apart, I've heard some horror stories.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:57:57
yep really hate when this happens with my hhkbthat's the one Hyper. DAmn you!The 1 thing that I hate when opening topre board is when you are finished modding it you need to assemble the conic springs and the rubber dome and that is really hard to do cause if you fail your board will have a really loud spring sound and that bothered the hell out of me and I have to open the board 1 more times to fix itNow I want to see it even more!
On a side note, I knew the silence mod rings thing were called Hypersphere or something of the sort, didn't realize I was actually talking to the person that made them! lol
I want to try the ring silencing. I've heard sound tests on youtube, and it tickles my fancy quite a bit.
ha yes it's Hyper. He made those rings for topre switch boards.
It might be a bit tedious when you first do it but it's fun taking apart a keyboard and modifying it. I recently put rings and lubed a realforce (which I sold) and the silencing was great.
happened my first time lubing my HHKB. I was already screwing in the case screws. I learned to test every key after putting the PCB. :D :D
Post by: ajx on Sun, 24 January 2016, 05:33:35
My best alignment: i got still few keys like 2/3 that ping like hell
Deal with it
Its a part of silencing mod and don't bother me anymore since you wont notice it when bottoming out the keys
And it will eventually wear out over time (not confirmed)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 24 January 2016, 05:37:23
I ve learned about it, every HHKB pings more or lessYep but when you allign it carefully and screw it tight the HHKB will have no spring sound at all!
My best alignment: i got still few keys like 2/3 that ping like hell
Deal with it
Its a part of silencing mod and don't bother me anymore since you wont notice it when bottoming out the keys
And it will eventually wear out over time (not confirmed)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46648.0
Thats how I fix my spring sound tho
Post by: KingRama on Sun, 24 January 2016, 06:45:44
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Post by: Solo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 09:15:33
Pm me :)
Aight.
:llama:
Nah I think I just go with custom cause customs are rare bro and hhkb can be bought anytime
The high from having something rare or exclusive wears off pretty quickly. It does for me, at least.
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:12:25
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:18:49
After using this keyboard for ~1 month, it's now my favorite keyboard to type on. With the 3rd and 5th dip switches on, the layout is absolutely perfect. Also, I've finally gotten used to using the function layer for the FN and Arrow keys. Super satisfied with my purchase! :DWelcome to the club! The fn layer is amazing, and all of my programmable boards have a (close to) HHKB layout for the fn layer. The arrow keys and control are a must for me though, I hate having a bottom left control.
Post by: Ryukuxyz on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:22:33
Yeah, I don't think I could ever go back to a standard layout after using this keyboard. Even if I stop using this one, I think I'll have to map the keys on all my other keyboards to match the HHKB layout. It's too good.After using this keyboard for ~1 month, it's now my favorite keyboard to type on. With the 3rd and 5th dip switches on, the layout is absolutely perfect. Also, I've finally gotten used to using the function layer for the FN and Arrow keys. Super satisfied with my purchase! :DWelcome to the club! The fn layer is amazing, and all of my programmable boards have a (close to) HHKB layout for the fn layer. The arrow keys and control are a must for me though, I hate having a bottom left control.
Post by: Vimto on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:37:57
Yeah, I don't think I could ever go back to a standard layout after using this keyboard. Even if I stop using this one, I think I'll have to map the keys on all my other keyboards to match the HHKB layout. It's too good.After using this keyboard for ~1 month, it's now my favorite keyboard to type on. With the 3rd and 5th dip switches on, the layout is absolutely perfect. Also, I've finally gotten used to using the function layer for the FN and Arrow keys. Super satisfied with my purchase! :DWelcome to the club! The fn layer is amazing, and all of my programmable boards have a (close to) HHKB layout for the fn layer. The arrow keys and control are a must for me though, I hate having a bottom left control.
Get hasu's controller and it gets even better. A programmable HHKB with multiple layers
Post by: venyv on Sun, 24 January 2016, 21:45:31
I've had the HHKB for ~2 or 3 weeks now, maybe a little less. I can't go back to MX. Built a B.Face with 65g Zealios before the HHKB arrived, which I thought I loved, but after typing on this beauty I don't know anything anymore. I never realized it before now, but the HHKB's placement of backspace is the best thing ever.
I want to buy a Type-S now though, I think the B.Face will be used to fund my Type-S :(
agreed the placement of the backspace key is the best thing ever. I am in the same boat as you I have a hard time going back to MX switches now. I did just order a Ergo dox with Zealios switches hoping that I will like and its not a waste of money.
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 25 January 2016, 02:56:52
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 January 2016, 03:00:57
how does one acquire this keyboard in the EU without paying killer price for it?
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
Maybe check eBay in your country? Or have a look in classifieds (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=59.0).
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 25 January 2016, 03:05:49
how does one acquire this keyboard in the EU without paying killer price for it?
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
Maybe check eBay in your country? Or have a look in classifieds (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=59.0).
Thanks! Will keep an eye out on the classifieds.
The boards on my countries ebay are the same price as if I would order them myself.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 January 2016, 03:54:48
how does one acquire this keyboard in the EU without paying killer price for it?
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
Maybe check eBay in your country? Or have a look in classifieds (https://geekhack.org/index.php?board=59.0).
Thanks! Will keep an eye out on the classifieds.
The boards on my countries ebay are the same price as if I would order them myself.
Quite possibly people who bought them, did not like them, and tried to recoup their costs.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 25 January 2016, 04:04:09
how does one acquire this keyboard in the EU without paying killer price for it?I have 1 for sell tho the modified one just look in the classefied and I can send you as a gift :thumb:
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
Post by: thatllbeme on Mon, 25 January 2016, 04:49:54
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:20:51
Got the HHKB2 in white a week ago - all I can say is wow!. I think Topre is up there with Gateron clears for my favorite switch. All I wish is that the domes were 30g - has anyone modded this yet? I'm absolutely in love with the layout (though the backspace placement makes using other keyboards quite a challenge). Caps feel amazing as well.
Many people have modded their HHKBs with 55g domes and there's nothing stopping you from doing it with 30g domes as long as you have a donor board (or domes that have already been harvested)
Reason you don't see it is that the 30g domes aren't anywhere near as popular as the 45g and 55g variety
Post by: frogthejam19 on Mon, 25 January 2016, 05:51:35
Also bought a model M brand new that comes with a converter.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 25 January 2016, 06:00:32
The orange alps does feels better
Post by: ajx on Mon, 25 January 2016, 07:37:30
The only reason that i would keep the HHKB its Hasu's controller/HHKB layout, its a damn temptation lol, i love my own HHKB but i wanna try other keyboards
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 25 January 2016, 07:41:12
So do i, i ve ordered NT which has been silenced also and i will compare with my HHKBYep thats the one reason that I'm selling mine in the classified :cool:
The only reason that i would keep the HHKB its Hasu's controller/HHKB layout, its a damn temptation lol, i love my own HHKB but i wanna try other keyboards
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 25 January 2016, 07:50:54
how does one acquire this keyboard in the EU without paying killer price for it?
I know I can order it through elite keyboards.. but I will need to pay 21% tax on it :(
could contact geekhack user Evo_Spec, he helped me proxy mine from japan.
clear communication, very helpful if you have any questions :)
Post by: robbles on Mon, 25 January 2016, 11:48:10
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 January 2016, 12:07:52
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
I'm not a big fan of HHKB mods. IMO, the 55g mod feels mushy and loses some crispness, and aside from swapping keycaps there's really nothing that must be done anyway. I haven't tried any silencing mods myself because the HHKB isn't loud. :P
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 25 January 2016, 12:27:30
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
I'm not a big fan of HHKB mods. IMO, the 55g mod feels mushy and loses some crispness, and aside from swapping keycaps there's really nothing that must be done anyway. I haven't tried any silencing mods myself because the HHKB isn't loud. :P
wow, isn't loud? do you use the left shift at all???
i'm using my hhkb less and less, primarily because of that loud left shift. it annoys me so much :(
as for mods or not, i do like the sound of stock, especially stock 55g realforce. but i mostly use open headphones, and that clacky sound just pierces through the music :/
i made the choice to keep my RF and HHKB silenced so that i have two relatively quiet keyboards that don't interfere with my sound.
but yeah, the stabilized keys really stand out, on the RF as well.
hopefully putting some thick lube on the stabilizers will reduce the sound by a bunch..
:-X
Post by: ajx on Mon, 25 January 2016, 12:28:42
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?I owned both, i sold stock HHKB after comparing with silenced mod, its day and nite, really day and nite, i will never go back to a stock Topre anymore, never!
You need to try, its not only sound, its literally new experience of typing
Post by: Oxid on Mon, 25 January 2016, 12:37:38
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
I'm not a big fan of HHKB mods. IMO, the 55g mod feels mushy and loses some crispness, and aside from swapping keycaps there's really nothing that must be done anyway. I haven't tried any silencing mods myself because the HHKB isn't loud. :P
wow, isn't loud? do you use the left shift at all???
i'm using my hhkb less and less, primarily because of that loud left shift. it annoys me so much :(
as for mods or not, i do like the sound of stock, especially stock 55g realforce. but i mostly use open headphones, and that clacky sound just pierces through the music :/
i made the choice to keep my RF and HHKB silenced so that i have two relatively quiet keyboards that don't interfere with my sound.
but yeah, the stabilized keys really stand out, on the RF as well.
hopefully putting some thick lube on the stabilizers will reduce the sound by a bunch..
:-X
Oh wow, I LOVE the left ****. I wish every key sounded like that lol. The key sounds so assertive and sure of itself. Such a satisfying THOCK for me lol
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 January 2016, 13:17:14
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
I'm not a big fan of HHKB mods. IMO, the 55g mod feels mushy and loses some crispness, and aside from swapping keycaps there's really nothing that must be done anyway. I haven't tried any silencing mods myself because the HHKB isn't loud. :P
wow, isn't loud? do you use the left shift at all???
I do! :P I never use the right shift.
It has never bothered me, and certainly nowhere near the point of wanting to harvest domes from another keyboard. ;)
Post by: robbles on Mon, 25 January 2016, 14:43:54
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
I'm not a big fan of HHKB mods. IMO, the 55g mod feels mushy and loses some crispness, and aside from swapping keycaps there's really nothing that must be done anyway. I haven't tried any silencing mods myself because the HHKB isn't loud. :P
wow, isn't loud? do you use the left shift at all???
i'm using my hhkb less and less, primarily because of that loud left shift. it annoys me so much :(
as for mods or not, i do like the sound of stock, especially stock 55g realforce. but i mostly use open headphones, and that clacky sound just pierces through the music :/
i made the choice to keep my RF and HHKB silenced so that i have two relatively quiet keyboards that don't interfere with my sound.
but yeah, the stabilized keys really stand out, on the RF as well.
hopefully putting some thick lube on the stabilizers will reduce the sound by a bunch..
:-X
Coming from MX Blues, the stock HHKB is like a whisper! I could see it maybe being an issue with open headphones though. I might get adventurous with some lube down the road when it requires it from general use. I am curious how lube would change the typing feel all that much though. Topre is already much smoother than MX or even Gateron will ever be.
Post by: Solo on Mon, 25 January 2016, 15:29:50
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 January 2016, 23:16:09
Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 25 January 2016, 23:55:52
Just don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 25 January 2016, 23:58:20
Just don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Mine is well-used :p
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 26 January 2016, 00:01:01
A trained virgin is better! :pJust don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Mine is well-used :p
Post by: Air tree on Tue, 26 January 2016, 00:21:25
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 26 January 2016, 00:39:41
55g HHKB is life, let the mushy rubber consume you...FTFY :p
Post by: sth on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:33:47
A trained virgin is better! :pJust don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Mine is well-used :p
son
Post by: raymogi on Tue, 26 January 2016, 02:41:01
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:38:29
yes dad?A trained virgin is better! :pJust don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Mine is well-used :p
son
Post by: ajx on Tue, 26 January 2016, 03:40:43
About baby, my new baby ;D
This is silenced with ironed landing pads
My HHKB is pretty similar
Ironed landing pads FTW :D
Post by: xondat on Tue, 26 January 2016, 06:22:34
https://vid.me/Q630
About baby, my new baby ;D
This is silenced with ironed landing pads
My HHKB is pretty similar
Ironed landing pads FTW :D
That sounds amazing
Post by: vegs on Tue, 26 January 2016, 08:21:51
Post by: mobbo on Tue, 26 January 2016, 08:43:26
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 26 January 2016, 08:44:16
Dat RGB
Post by: robbles on Tue, 26 January 2016, 12:00:52
Just don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was beginning to feel lonely! I jumped in on the latest HotKeys blanks and can't wait for them to come. Also have an orange cable from Mimic on the way. This black HKKB is crying out for some color.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hwqXpwE.jpg)
Dat RGB
Those keys on the upper right look great. Speaking of HotKeys?
Post by: ajx on Tue, 26 January 2016, 12:03:39
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 26 January 2016, 20:21:08
That is roastpotatoes keycapsJust don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was beginning to feel lonely! I jumped in on the latest HotKeys blanks and can't wait for them to come. Also have an orange cable from Mimic on the way. This black HKKB is crying out for some color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hwqXpwE.jpg)
Dat RGB
Those keys on the upper right look great. Speaking of HotKeys?
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 26 January 2016, 20:23:34
Get blank on alpha keys dude ;D
Haha I have the blanks, just prefer the printed :)
That is roastpotatoes keycapsJust don't mod HHKB just let them be virgin!Am I the only one here who loves the stock HHKB without mods? I love the sound and feel as is and after listening to some vids of lubed and silenced HHKBs, I'm not a fan of how soft they sound. Sounds too airy. Anybody else out there feel the same way or did I just make myself really unpopular?
My HHKB in unmodded, apart from a few artisans and a PBT space bar.
Glad I'm not the only one. I was beginning to feel lonely! I jumped in on the latest HotKeys blanks and can't wait for them to come. Also have an orange cable from Mimic on the way. This black HKKB is crying out for some color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hwqXpwE.jpg)
Dat RGB
Those keys on the upper right look great. Speaking of HotKeys?
R4 blanks are KatzenKinder, R1 is RoastPotatoes
Post by: frogthejam19 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 13:53:56
Post by: robbles on Thu, 28 January 2016, 14:35:00
I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:10:41
I think I've decided to get one of these stupid things.
(http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Star-Wars-7-Rumor-Emperor-Returning.jpg)
Post by: ComradeSniper on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:18:05
I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
The Duck Viper is exactly what you're looking for.
Post by: nmur on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:22:13
I have some confused coworkers now
hhkb is life
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:31:35
currently typing on my hhkb on my laptop brought for out-of-office training for workHhkb is love
I have some confused coworkers now
hhkb is life
Post by: demik on Thu, 28 January 2016, 21:46:31
I think I've decided to get one of these stupid things.
you respect the hhkb. it's not stupid. TAKE IT BACK.
Post by: derb2k2 on Thu, 28 January 2016, 22:05:13
I think I've decided to get one of these stupid things.
you respect the hhkb. it's not stupid. TAKE IT BACK.
Agreed. This sort of blasphemy is reprehensible but I see no course of action in my HHKB Bible.
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Fri, 29 January 2016, 07:37:00
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1465/24315224029_6a60d0df57_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/D3DSYv)IMGP1095 (https://flic.kr/p/D3DSYv) by Carlitos Fernandez (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138889771@N05/), on Flickr
Mmmmm... I love me the HHKB Pro 1... So beautiful and the feels.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 29 January 2016, 07:41:30
I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
The Duck Viper is exactly what you're looking for.
That's just brutal. Taunt a man with something so hard to acquire. :'(
(but you're right)
Could also look into the GON HHKB if you're willing to wait, robbles.
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 29 January 2016, 07:50:23
Post by: mobbo on Fri, 29 January 2016, 08:02:35
I think I've decided to get one of these stupid things.
you respect the hhkb. it's not stupid. TAKE IT BACK.
I'LL decide that once I've tried it.
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:09:47
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:20:43
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
Just push it until the little tab breaks. That tab has to break in order for the sliders to go through.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:32:23
Secondly, I just got the FC660c and it's one hell of a board. Also, I just now finished lubing and putting the silencing rings on.
It's damn near orgasmic.
I still have HHKB #1 but I'll be carrying FC660c around for some time.
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:34:36
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
Just push it until the little tab breaks. That tab has to break in order for the sliders to go through.
Ok, so just to make sure I am pushing down from the blue arrow and the tabs at the red arrow break?
(http://i.imgur.com/8Z7D6gA.jpg)
Post by: ImAWildDeer on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:35:31
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
You can take a small flat head screwdriver and slide it along the slider where the tab is to allow it to slide by. I prefer this method since it doesn't break the tab and it's easier to keep the sliders in the board when taking it apart. However, like raymogi said, you can just press the slider until the tab breaks if you don't care about them staying in during disassembly.
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:41:11
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
Just push it until the little tab breaks. That tab has to break in order for the sliders to go through.
Ok, so just to make sure I am pushing down from the blue arrow and the tabs at the red arrow break?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Z7D6gA.jpg)
Not that one. It's that super small tab at the top part of the sliders.
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:42:40
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
Just push it until the little tab breaks. That tab has to break in order for the sliders to go through.
Ok, so just to make sure I am pushing down from the blue arrow and the tabs at the red arrow break?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Z7D6gA.jpg)
Not that one. It's that super small tab at the top part of the sliders.
I am trying to lube my HHKB Pro 2 for the first time. I am at this (http://i.imgur.com/yuHuO4H.jpg) stage of the process, by following this guide (http://imgur.com/a/b8Zw7). It says you can gently push the stems out (so they pop out from the front right?) yet mine doesn't and I am too afraid I might break something if I push harder!
You can take a small flat head screwdriver and slide it along the slider where the tab is to allow it to slide by. I prefer this method since it doesn't break the tab and it's easier to keep the sliders in the board when taking it apart. However, like raymogi said, you can just press the slider until the tab breaks if you don't care about them staying in during disassembly.
Got it, I've taken two out now! Using a flat screwdriver to help. Thanks so much for the help.
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:43:24
i've seen tiny brushes get mentioned. is this the general suggestion, or has someone had success using something else? :)
i would prefer not to make a mess, or to over-apply or under-apply..
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 00:47:21
what are good options to apply the lube with?no don't lube it makes no difference in feel :thumb:
i've seen tiny brushes get mentioned. is this the general suggestion, or has someone had success using something else? :)
i would prefer not to make a mess, or to over-apply or under-apply..
just let your hhkb be virgin
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 01:27:01
You HHKB purists need to see the light, modding the HHKB is like fine tuning and bringing it to be that much more fantastic.what are good options to apply the lube with?no don't lube it makes no difference in feel :thumb:
i've seen tiny brushes get mentioned. is this the general suggestion, or has someone had success using something else? :)
i would prefer not to make a mess, or to over-apply or under-apply..
just let your hhkb be virgin
55g HHKB for life!, I just need to find the time to silence and lube it. :eek:
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 30 January 2016, 03:28:58
(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Post by: ajx on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:26:44
Post by: Air tree on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:35:22
HHKB under 50$? Are you kidding me right? lolI'd assume he meant the keycaps, not the HHKB.
Post by: Quackles on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:39:36
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 05:50:27
Ok so I've finished lubing! Will see how it goes after a few days. Reason for lubing? Picked up this set in Australia off someone for only $49.95! Essentially new condition, hard to get stuff down under. Thought since I am changing caps, might as well lube it for once. Took a lot longer than expected though!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Grats on finishing the job! It took me a couple hours at first also but it gets easier from then on.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 30 January 2016, 06:17:37
Ok so I've finished lubing! Will see how it goes after a few days. Reason for lubing? Picked up this set in Australia off someone for only $49.95! Essentially new condition, hard to get stuff down under. Thought since I am changing caps, might as well lube it for once. Took a lot longer than expected though!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Grats on finishing the job! It took me a couple hours at first also but it gets easier from then on.
Serious question.. please explain to me how you reversed the spacebar? I tried to pull it off with my default filco keycap puller... but it was so stiff I didn't dare to push through. I was afraid to break it.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 06:32:15
pull off both of the gui keys or windows keys and pull the spacebar with both your thumb :thumb:Ok so I've finished lubing! Will see how it goes after a few days. Reason for lubing? Picked up this set in Australia off someone for only $49.95! Essentially new condition, hard to get stuff down under. Thought since I am changing caps, might as well lube it for once. Took a lot longer than expected though!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Grats on finishing the job! It took me a couple hours at first also but it gets easier from then on.
Serious question.. please explain to me how you reversed the spacebar? I tried to pull it off with my default filco keycap puller... but it was so stiff I didn't dare to push through. I was afraid to break it.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:09:28
pull off both of the gui keys or windows keys and pull the spacebar with both your thumb :thumb:Ok so I've finished lubing! Will see how it goes after a few days. Reason for lubing? Picked up this set in Australia off someone for only $49.95! Essentially new condition, hard to get stuff down under. Thought since I am changing caps, might as well lube it for once. Took a lot longer than expected though!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Grats on finishing the job! It took me a couple hours at first also but it gets easier from then on.
Serious question.. please explain to me how you reversed the spacebar? I tried to pull it off with my default filco keycap puller... but it was so stiff I didn't dare to push through. I was afraid to break it.
I've done it! Thanks! Aahh.. feels so awesome with spacebar reversed.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:22:48
#LONGLIVETHEFLIPPEDSPACEBARKINGDOMpull off both of the gui keys or windows keys and pull the spacebar with both your thumb :thumb:Ok so I've finished lubing! Will see how it goes after a few days. Reason for lubing? Picked up this set in Australia off someone for only $49.95! Essentially new condition, hard to get stuff down under. Thought since I am changing caps, might as well lube it for once. Took a lot longer than expected though!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EeKRF6v.png)
Grats on finishing the job! It took me a couple hours at first also but it gets easier from then on.
Serious question.. please explain to me how you reversed the spacebar? I tried to pull it off with my default filco keycap puller... but it was so stiff I didn't dare to push through. I was afraid to break it.
I've done it! Thanks! Aahh.. feels so awesome with spacebar reversed.
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:31:52
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 30 January 2016, 08:50:13
Heresy.
Something I say to myself many times when reading GH. :( Down with the infidels!!
Post by: Madeupword on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:21:28
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:24:09
Which provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?
I prefer hypersphere's rings
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:28:36
Which provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?I like the cheap option :p
Everybody said that they give the same typing experiences
Post by: starscream on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:41:18
I dream of having lime green PBT space bar
Is there currently anywhere selling individual or sets of blank topre keys? (not including elitekeyboards)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:43:08
No one sells blank topre caps anymore :'(Show Image(http://)
I dream of having lime green PBT space bar
Is there currently anywhere selling individual or sets of blank topre keys? (not including elitekeyboards)
Post by: eat_the_food on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:45:26
(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:46:58
Powder-puff and a splash of color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Love your setup. There's something about those powderpuff purple gamer set that I love so much.
Post by: eat_the_food on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:50:33
Powder-puff and a splash of color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Love your setup. There's something about those powderpuff purple gamer set that I love so much.
You know I was skeptical at first but i really love the feel of the gamer set keys - so solid feeling. Now I just need to get a hold of some more for my other boards :thumb:
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 30 January 2016, 19:52:13
Powder-puff and a splash of color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Love your setup. There's something about those powderpuff purple gamer set that I love so much.
You know I was skeptical at first but i really love the feel of the gamer set keys - so solid feeling. Now I just need to get a hold of some more for my other boards :thumb:
I haven't had the chance to use them personally as a set, I just have them as esc and fn but yeah the feeling is really good. I'm hoping Bro will release a qwer version cause I don't play fps.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 30 January 2016, 20:02:27
Powder-puff and a splash of color.a really clean shot bro love the artisan :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 31 January 2016, 02:16:37
Powder-puff and a splash of color.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBFpsaM.jpg)
Colors on point, powderpuff is lovely
Post by: ajx on Sun, 31 January 2016, 09:31:41
I like both but the spacebar on NT is freaking silent
That kills me
I never had such silent on all spacebar, no matter if you use PBT spacebar on HHKB
So i am going to mod and put something that would reduce the spacebar stem, it actually hits on pcb which cause the noise
Post by: Madeupword on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:36:45
Which provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?
I prefer hypersphere's rings
Which provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?I like the cheap option :p
Everybody said that they give the same typing experiences
Anyone else? If both are similarly priced, which would you go with?
Post by: deductivemonkee on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:37:22
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 31 January 2016, 18:52:29
Which provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?
I prefer hypersphere's ringsWhich provide a better typing experience and feel, a HHKB Pro 2 Type S or a HHKB Pro 2 with Hypersphere's silencing rings?I like the cheap option :p
Everybody said that they give the same typing experiences
Anyone else? If both are similarly priced, which would you go with?
I can't speak for the type-S but I can definitely vouch for Hypershere's rings on any topre board. I've now modded an HHKB, a RF which i sold, and the FC660c which i just got. The result has always been great but of course, you will have to go through performing the mod which can be a bit tedious with the disassembling. I will add that I've also lubed them but most importantly, the upstroke clack is basically removed by the rings (important since I use my boards in an office setting). I think there's still a big $$ difference between purchasing the Type-S and the normal HHKB + rings.
Post by: robbles on Sun, 31 January 2016, 22:24:36
I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
The Duck Viper is exactly what you're looking for.
That's just brutal. Taunt a man with something so hard to acquire. :'(
(but you're right)
Could also look into the GON HHKB if you're willing to wait, robbles.
Recently saw a pic on reddit of a Duck Viper with Calm Depths and my reaction was embarrassing. Like a high pitched squealing throat noise.
There will be group buys again for both those someday...right? :))
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 31 January 2016, 23:28:29
Calmdephts is not possible but viper would get another round right?I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
The Duck Viper is exactly what you're looking for.
That's just brutal. Taunt a man with something so hard to acquire. :'(
(but you're right)
Could also look into the GON HHKB if you're willing to wait, robbles.
Recently saw a pic on reddit of a Duck Viper with Calm Depths and my reaction was embarrassing. Like a high pitched squealing throat noise.
There will be group buys again for both those someday...right? :))
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:10:50
I'll be honest i thought that the way people were talking about this keyboard made it annoying and I thought that poeple are just overrating it but man. I finally got my hands on these and they are in love. I don't know why maybe it's topre but im way more accurate with this and my realforce than I am with my mx blues. This feels so buttery smooth it feels like im cutting through butter as i type. I'm officially a convert :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came from Blues as well, with o-rings. I'll never go back. The only MX style switch I'm remotely interested in now are Zealios. But I'd have to find an MX board with the HHKB delete and fn key placement...
The Duck Viper is exactly what you're looking for.
That's just brutal. Taunt a man with something so hard to acquire. :'(
(but you're right)
Could also look into the GON HHKB if you're willing to wait, robbles.
Recently saw a pic on reddit of a Duck Viper with Calm Depths and my reaction was embarrassing. Like a high pitched squealing throat noise.
There will be group buys again for both those someday...right? :))
That might have been mine... :P
And sorry to say, no planned group buys for either. :( We can hope though!
Post by: Vittra on Mon, 01 February 2016, 18:21:09
Post by: edb5s on Wed, 03 February 2016, 09:55:12
Does anyone else have crooked keycaps on their HHKB? Unless I'm just losing it, it appears that a couple of the keys are a little tilted or crooked. Maybe it's just me.
Now I just need to dress it up with an artisan or two and maybe a new Pexon cable.
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 03 February 2016, 11:04:53
Just received my first ever HHKB Pro 2 last night. Keyboard experience before this has been MX blues and Kailh blues. I love the Topre feel. After having typed a bit on it when I received it yesterday, I was literally lying in bed thinking about the feel of the keys. The layout - particularly the location of the delete/backspace and control keys - will take some getting used to but I ultimately think it will be more efficient.
Does anyone else have crooked keycaps on their HHKB? Unless I'm just losing it, it appears that a couple of the keys are a little tilted or crooked. Maybe it's just me.
Now I just need to dress it up with an artisan or two and maybe a new Pexon cable.
A little tilt / rotated keycap is normal. I have the same with my two HHKB's AND my newly arrive 87UB. One my white HHKB it was more noticeable, so I swapped some keys on some rows so that it now looks almost perfect on the eye.
Post by: robbles on Wed, 03 February 2016, 14:43:01
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 03 February 2016, 15:06:51
The Control and Delete keys are slightly tilted to the right on mine, but I just think it adds character. Not sure if it is something to do with the slider or the cap though. I guess that is just a side effect of having circle sliders instead of square like Cherry.
On the black ones, it is less obvious. On my white one it was clearly visible and my OCD could not handle it. Luckily, it was only in the home row and I could switch some caps.
Makes me wonder WHY they are titled... are the caps a bit angled or is the switch a bit tilted (or the slider itself).
Post by: zeta on Wed, 03 February 2016, 21:12:26
Also, where's the best vendor to buy HHKB's from? I'm thinking the Amazon-fulfilled (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F1HWFU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1KF77HTRJT30F) one which is comparable in price with EliteKeyboards after shipping, or the $10 cheaper vendor spider777 on Amazon. I'm not sure how trustworthy they are though.
How's the carrying case? I'm considering getting that just for the logo.
Post by: Vimto on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:08:57
Do you guys think that there will be a special 10/20-year anniversary edition coming out this year? I was looking to get my first HHKB but I might hold out if there's any chance of that happening.
Also, where's the best vendor to buy HHKB's from? I'm thinking the Amazon-fulfilled (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F1HWFU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1KF77HTRJT30F) one which is comparable in price with EliteKeyboards after shipping, or the $10 cheaper vendor spider777 on Amazon. I'm not sure how trustworthy they are though.
How's the carrying case? I'm considering getting that just for the logo.
I didn't bother buying a carrying case. I just bought 2 so I don't have to carry it to work :)
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 03 February 2016, 22:21:32
I didn't bother buying a carrying case. I just bought 2 so I don't have to carry it to work :)
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwncg0oxS01qfoyo2o1_500.png)
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 04 February 2016, 00:30:20
On the black ones, it is less obvious. On my white one it was clearly visible and my OCD could not handle it. Luckily, it was only in the home row and I could switch some caps.
as far as i can tell, for me it's actually the left shift that's tilted.
funnily enough i never noticed it until now.
Post by: pab on Thu, 04 February 2016, 01:14:28
On the black ones, it is less obvious. On my white one it was clearly visible and my OCD could not handle it. Luckily, it was only in the home row and I could switch some caps.
as far as i can tell, for me it's actually the left shift that's tilted.
funnily enough i never noticed it until now.
My pok3r has a tilted spacebar, which is probably the most obvious key to have slightly tilted. :-(
I'm probably the only one who notices though. :-P
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:18:59
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:24:10
Post by: frogthejam19 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:29:04
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:31:22
Mine should be comming in next week :cHope that you enjoy the board!
Post by: iLLucionist on Thu, 04 February 2016, 06:50:22
I didn't bother buying a carrying case. I just bought 2 so I don't have to carry it to work :)
I like your style.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 04 February 2016, 07:10:16
Mine should be comming in next week :cHope that you enjoy the board!
Thanks man! now off to collect some artisans :P
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 07:16:38
Just save some money and ignore artisans bro :pMine should be comming in next week :cHope that you enjoy the board!
Thanks man! now off to collect some artisans :P
Nah JK go get some beatiful artisan to accompany that beautiful board :thumb:.
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 04 February 2016, 07:28:10
Yeah I will be fine :)Just save some money and ignore artisans broMine should be comming in next week :cHope that you enjoy the board!
Thanks man! now off to collect some artisansNah JK go get some beatiful artisan to accompany that beautiful board :thumb:.
Post by: robbles on Thu, 04 February 2016, 11:48:53
After I sold my hhkb I think I need to buy another one I just can't leave hhkb :'(
BRO WHY?!
Do you guys think that there will be a special 10/20-year anniversary edition coming out this year? I was looking to get my first HHKB but I might hold out if there's any chance of that happening.
Also, where's the best vendor to buy HHKB's from? I'm thinking the Amazon-fulfilled (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F1HWFU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1KF77HTRJT30F) one which is comparable in price with EliteKeyboards after shipping, or the $10 cheaper vendor spider777 on Amazon. I'm not sure how trustworthy they are though.
How's the carrying case? I'm considering getting that just for the logo.
I purchased mine through Amazon because it would be easy to return if I hated it. Turns out I can't type on anything else now. I doubt they will have any kind of anniversary edition and if they do it will probably be super expensive like the HG edition.
I guess this could be an interesting topic to discuss. If PFU were to release a HHKB 3, what would be your dream features? Mine would be the obvious 55g variant and some better rubber pads on the bottom.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 04 February 2016, 12:28:28
After I sold my hhkb I think I need to buy another one I just can't leave hhkb :'(
BRO WHY?!Do you guys think that there will be a special 10/20-year anniversary edition coming out this year? I was looking to get my first HHKB but I might hold out if there's any chance of that happening.
Also, where's the best vendor to buy HHKB's from? I'm thinking the Amazon-fulfilled (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F1HWFU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1KF77HTRJT30F) one which is comparable in price with EliteKeyboards after shipping, or the $10 cheaper vendor spider777 on Amazon. I'm not sure how trustworthy they are though.
How's the carrying case? I'm considering getting that just for the logo.
I purchased mine through Amazon because it would be easy to return if I hated it. Turns out I can't type on anything else now. I doubt they will have any kind of anniversary edition and if they do it will probably be super expensive like the HG edition.
I guess this could be an interesting topic to discuss. If PFU were to release a HHKB 3, what would be your dream features? Mine would be the obvious 55g variant and some better rubber pads on the bottom.
This has been done tents of times already, you may call people to do it again, though, it is a never ending thing, PFU is not listening though, its keyboard market is not a priority.
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:10:30
Post by: livingspeedbump on Thu, 04 February 2016, 14:53:31
Anyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
Post by: iLLucionist on Thu, 04 February 2016, 15:08:36
Anyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
55g is extremely snappy. Not sure whether it is coz the switch is plate-mounted in the 87U or due to the fact that the 45gs in the HHKB are not plate-mounted.
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:32:09
Before I swapped mine to 55g I would make unintended keystrokes on my HHKB the 55g switches totally eliminated that for me. I love the 55g snappyness but I have rather heavy hands and prefer a more sturdy switchAnyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
55g is extremely snappy. Not sure whether it is coz the switch is plate-mounted in the 87U or due to the fact that the 45gs in the HHKB are not plate-mounted.
Post by: iLLucionist on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:36:22
Before I swapped mine to 55g I would make unintended keystrokes on my HHKB the 55g switches totally eliminated that for me. I love the 55g snappyness but I have rather heavy hands and prefer a more sturdy switchAnyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
55g is extremely snappy. Not sure whether it is coz the switch is plate-mounted in the 87U or due to the fact that the 45gs in the HHKB are not plate-mounted.
Jup had the same, 45g a tad too light. 55gs are damm perfect!
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:37:45
Anyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch thoughno damn no 45g for the hhkb. 55g on hhkb is really mushy for me and not that good as the plate mounted realforce!
My keyboard pruchase is just too much so I need to sell my dream hhkb board but we could buy hhkb anytime of the day tho :pAfter I sold my hhkb I think I need to buy another one I just can't leave hhkb :'(
BRO WHY?!
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 04 February 2016, 18:47:46
Before I swapped mine to 55g I would make unintended keystrokes on my HHKB the 55g switches totally eliminated that for me. I love the 55g snappyness but I have rather heavy hands and prefer a more sturdy switchAnyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
55g is extremely snappy. Not sure whether it is coz the switch is plate-mounted in the 87U or due to the fact that the 45gs in the HHKB are not plate-mounted.
Jup had the same, 45g a tad too light. 55gs are damm perfect!
Thanks for the responses all. Might pick up an 87U and see how I like it. Pretty happy with 45g now but I think I'd like something a little heavier more :thumb:
Post by: demik on Thu, 04 February 2016, 19:18:54
Post by: Vimto on Thu, 04 February 2016, 21:27:44
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 05 February 2016, 00:52:32
NOOOOO HHKB SHOULD STAY VIRGINBefore I swapped mine to 55g I would make unintended keystrokes on my HHKB the 55g switches totally eliminated that for me. I love the 55g snappyness but I have rather heavy hands and prefer a more sturdy switchAnyone have an opinion on 55g vs 45g HHKB? Been considering getting a second one and dome-swapping so I have one of both. Have never tried the 55g switch though
I only use 55g HHKB's at this point. So much snappier :)
55g is extremely snappy. Not sure whether it is coz the switch is plate-mounted in the 87U or due to the fact that the 45gs in the HHKB are not plate-mounted.
Jup had the same, 45g a tad too light. 55gs are damm perfect!
Thanks for the responses all. Might pick up an 87U and see how I like it. Pretty happy with 45g now but I think I'd like something a little heavier more :thumb:
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:00:19
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:16:12
Post by: robbles on Fri, 05 February 2016, 11:52:08
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 05 February 2016, 12:02:58
I wish that HHKB world tour was for a 55g silenced and lubed. My favorite Cherry switch is lubed o-ringed Blue, so I bet I would be into it, but I love this thing too damn much to tamper with it just yet.
I think the snappiness of the 55g switch and plate of RF contributed to faster strain for me but I'd really like to try a 55g HHKB to make some comparisons to pcb-mounted.
I think this would be a great tour. Sign me up.
Post by: demik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 14:49:37
I personally disagree. Although RF 55g is great, the 55g hhkb pushed me away from topre for awhile. It just ruined the whole experience for me.This is what I'm afraid of. Everybody says they're great. But I'm not a huge fan of mods (both keyboards and moderators) and I'd really hate having a keyboard I don't like using. Imagine if I started to hate my hhkb? Like, who would I be?
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:01:39
Post by: Air tree on Fri, 05 February 2016, 15:11:47
PM your address. I'll steer you towards the light.I personally disagree. Although RF 55g is great, the 55g hhkb pushed me away from topre for awhile. It just ruined the whole experience for me.This is what I'm afraid of. Everybody says they're great. But I'm not a huge fan of mods (both keyboards and moderators) and I'd really hate having a keyboard I don't like using. Imagine if I started to hate my hhkb? Like, who would I be?
Post by: demik on Fri, 05 February 2016, 16:29:14
PM your address. I'll steer you towards the light.I personally disagree. Although RF 55g is great, the 55g hhkb pushed me away from topre for awhile. It just ruined the whole experience for me.This is what I'm afraid of. Everybody says they're great. But I'm not a huge fan of mods (both keyboards and moderators) and I'd really hate having a keyboard I don't like using. Imagine if I started to hate my hhkb? Like, who would I be?
ha, nah, it's okay buddy. i like my hhkb as is :P
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:17:26
I wish that HHKB world tour was for a 55g silenced and lubed. My favorite Cherry switch is lubed o-ringed Blue, so I bet I would be into it, but I love this thing too damn much to tamper with it just yet.
I think the snappiness of the 55g switch and plate of RF contributed to faster strain for me but I'd really like to try a 55g HHKB to make some comparisons to pcb-mounted.
I think this would be a great tour. Sign me up.
If not for me previous MX clears experience, I would've found the 55g too heavy as well. But now that I'm used to clears and now my 55g Topre, it feels really light to type on 45g switches, whether it's Topre or cherry.
But yeah, 55g is definitely not light. But I really love the switch.
Post by: Diokhan on Sat, 06 February 2016, 03:57:33
Arrived yesterday :o
(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:07:15
That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
Dat wrist rest... damn sexy. Where'd you get that?
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:23:51
That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
nice setup! big mouse mat to have everything on it. so complete..!
too bad about the bright yellow on the FK. should've been black!
but damn i need a wrist rest like that. i remember a geekhacker making custom ones, anyone know who this is?
(btw.. is your rest flipped? :-X )
Post by: Diokhan on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:25:54
Hey man Yeah came in same day as the keyboard.That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
Dat wrist rest... damn sexy. Where'd you get that?
It's heart wood walnut wrist rest.
Very cheap :D
http://m.ebay.com/itm/HEART-for-60-key-Walnut-Palm-Rest-Keyboard-Wood-Wrist-Protection-Anti-skid-Pad-/271987282761
And no it's not flipped.
Will take picture from a different angle later.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:28:57
Hey man Yeah came in same day as the keyboard.That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
Dat wrist rest... damn sexy. Where'd you get that?
It's heart wood walnut wrist rest.
Very cheap :D
http://m.ebay.com/itm/HEART-for-60-key-Walnut-Palm-Rest-Keyboard-Wood-Wrist-Protection-Anti-skid-Pad-/271987282761
And no it's not flipped.
Will take picture from a different angle later.
Thanks! Very cheep indeed... looks very expensive and polished.
Post by: Diokhan on Sat, 06 February 2016, 06:30:12
Yeah feels and looks very good. It's my second one from him.Hey man Yeah came in same day as the keyboard.That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
Dat wrist rest... damn sexy. Where'd you get that?
It's heart wood walnut wrist rest.
Very cheap :D
http://m.ebay.com/itm/HEART-for-60-key-Walnut-Palm-Rest-Keyboard-Wood-Wrist-Protection-Anti-skid-Pad-/271987282761
And no it's not flipped.
Will take picture from a different angle later.
Thanks! Very cheep indeed... looks very expensive and polished.
Post by: xondat on Sat, 06 February 2016, 09:29:19
That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
That wrist rest is super nice, surprised at the price honestly.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 09:40:49
That was fast, ordered on tuesday from japan.
Arrived yesterday :oShow Image(http://imgur.com/H8QRDe4.jpg)
That wrist rest is super nice, surprised at the price honestly.
also a little bit surprised. Hrmm..
HHKB looks great! Nice setup.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 06 February 2016, 09:45:04
I personally disagree. Although RF 55g is great, the 55g hhkb pushed me away from topre for awhile. It just ruined the whole experience for me.Thats what you get on modding hhkb. HHKB doesn't want to be defiled by filthy mod
Nooo stock hhkb is perfectI wish that HHKB world tour was for a 55g silenced and lubed. My favorite Cherry switch is lubed o-ringed Blue, so I bet I would be into it, but I love this thing too damn much to tamper with it just yet.
I think the snappiness of the 55g switch and plate of RF contributed to faster strain for me but I'd really like to try a 55g HHKB to make some comparisons to pcb-mounted.
I think this would be a great tour. Sign me up.
Thats it don't mod your hhkb demik let it be virgitI personally disagree. Although RF 55g is great, the 55g hhkb pushed me away from topre for awhile. It just ruined the whole experience for me.This is what I'm afraid of. Everybody says they're great. But I'm not a huge fan of mods (both keyboards and moderators) and I'd really hate having a keyboard I don't like using. Imagine if I started to hate my hhkb? Like, who would I be?
55g hhkb best hhkb.SHAME. SHAME. SHAME.
Post by: zeta on Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:59:51
Post by: ajx on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:12:21
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:19:21
The spacebar is supposed to be ABS instead of PBT? Because it feels exactly the same as the rest of them. Am I just oblivious to plastic quality?
Yes it's ABS. Look closely at the texture or rub carefully and you'll feel a grainy texture on the others. If all of that fails, wait a few weeks and you'll start noticing a shine on the spacebar where you place your thumb most :))
Post by: zeta on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:25:12
Yes it's ABS. Look closely at the texture or rub carefully and you'll feel a grainy texture on the others. If all of that fails, wait a few weeks and you'll start noticing a shine on the spacebar where you place your thumb most :))
I feel the PBT graininess on the spacebar as well. Could I just buy a single white spacebar from somebody in that case? Massdrop isn't running the spacebar drop by itself.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:39:11
Yes it's ABS. Look closely at the texture or rub carefully and you'll feel a grainy texture on the others. If all of that fails, wait a few weeks and you'll start noticing a shine on the spacebar where you place your thumb most :))
I feel the PBT graininess on the spacebar as well. Could I just buy a single white spacebar from somebody in that case? Massdrop isn't running the spacebar drop by itself.
Matt3o had organized a group buy a while ago so there might be someone willing to sell you one. I will be receiving some soon too, so maybe i'll donate one to you, though it won't be a black one. :) What color is yours?
Post by: zeta on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:47:08
Matt3o had organized a group buy a while ago so there might be someone willing to sell you one. I will be receiving some soon too, so maybe i'll donate one to you, though it won't be a black one. :) What color is yours?
I'm using a white HHKB! Buying one from somebody else would be fantastic, thank you. :)
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:55:46
Matt3o had organized a group buy a while ago so there might be someone willing to sell you one. I will be receiving some soon too, so maybe i'll donate one to you, though it won't be a black one. :) What color is yours?
I'm using a white HHKB! Buying one from somebody else would be fantastic, thank you. :)
Nice. I'll keep you updated.
As Phil Collins used to say, "you'll be in my heart. Yes you'll be in my heart."
Post by: qazeqaz on Sat, 06 February 2016, 16:39:04
Post by: trenzafeeds on Sat, 06 February 2016, 17:00:14
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:35:16
I just got mine in the mail today and I have to say that I love the way it feels and sounds. The hype on this board/switches are real! Although that backspace is a killer to try and get used to!
Great to hear you like it! Doesn't it feel like coming home in a way? :)
Post by: qazeqaz on Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:45:20
I just got mine in the mail today and I have to say that I love the way it feels and sounds. The hype on this board/switches are real! Although that backspace is a killer to try and get used to!
Great to hear you like it! Doesn't it feel like coming home in a way? :)
Haha indeed it does, very nice feeling and sounding.
Post by: derb2k2 on Sat, 06 February 2016, 19:17:40
I just got mine in the mail today and I have to say that I love the way it feels and sounds. The hype on this board/switches are real! Although that backspace is a killer to try and get used to!
Great to hear you like it! Doesn't it feel like coming home in a way? :)
Haha indeed it does, very nice feeling and sounding.
how are you liking the layout? (you better say you like it, or else) Any particularities (or pecularities) that stand out? You should be able to acclimate to the backspace. I use my pinky and when I have to press it repeatedly I make sure not to lift my pinky off too much to make it more efficient and quick.
Post by: qazeqaz on Sat, 06 February 2016, 20:16:32
I just got mine in the mail today and I have to say that I love the way it feels and sounds. The hype on this board/switches are real! Although that backspace is a killer to try and get used to!
Great to hear you like it! Doesn't it feel like coming home in a way? :)
Haha indeed it does, very nice feeling and sounding.
how are you liking the layout? (you better say you like it, or else) Any particularities (or pecularities) that stand out? You should be able to acclimate to the backspace. I use my pinky and when I have to press it repeatedly I make sure not to lift my pinky off too much to make it more efficient and quick.
I am used to the CTRL instead of caps, so much better. Back space is a bit rough for me to remember but I am getting it, slowly. Also the arrow keys are just bizarre to me! But practice makes perfect. Space bar is a bit sharp in design, gaming is wrecking my thumb!!!
Post by: Altis on Sat, 06 February 2016, 21:13:02
It makes typing sound a bit funny how different they sound.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:05:38
Its ABS, no its cheap quality, trust me, get PBT Topre spacebar from Matt3o ASAPYep ASAP. All pbt topre is perfect
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:07:13
I have to ask... does anyone else have their center-most keys make a much louder *clack* on the upstroke? In particular, the G, H, T, and B keys are very loud compared with the keys on either end of the board (which are more of a click-sound on upstroke, or simply not as loud).Yep its normal its because of the case mounted bro!
It makes typing sound a bit funny how different they sound.
Edit: sorry double post
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 07 February 2016, 05:00:18
Its ABS, no its cheap quality, trust me, get PBT Topre spacebar from Matt3o ASAPYep ASAP. All pbt topre is perfect
Yeah... I love my HHKB and my 87U but dat spacebar.. not only is it ABS, but it also feels like really cheap hollow ABS. I've had better ABS caps.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 07 February 2016, 05:06:21
Yep just thick abs allowed :pIts ABS, no its cheap quality, trust me, get PBT Topre spacebar from Matt3o ASAPYep ASAP. All pbt topre is perfect
Yeah... I love my HHKB and my 87U but dat spacebar.. not only is it ABS, but it also feels like really cheap hollow ABS. I've had better ABS caps.
Post by: Diokhan on Sun, 07 February 2016, 16:31:57
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 07 February 2016, 16:43:07
Anyone has a black pbt space bar that he wants to sell? :)
Where are you located?
Post by: qazeqaz on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:53:36
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:55:28
So I love the HHKB I got in black, problem is that I am a n00b at typing... So I look and peck... Thinking about picking up the HHKB-S, thought on the matter? Figured the black HHKB can be used at work, where the lights are always super bright, and the S will be easier to see at my house in the dark. Wanted peoples input on how different the S is compared to the default Pro 2.
Type-S is nice, but you could also just but the white version of the regular HHKB. I can image.. black-on-black is really difficult to read. You could also try to learn to touch type to at least remember the basic a-z keys on goodtyping.com for instance. But yeah.. I can imagine how difficult it is.
Post by: Altis on Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:58:17
I have to ask... does anyone else have their center-most keys make a much louder *clack* on the upstroke? In particular, the G, H, T, and B keys are very loud compared with the keys on either end of the board (which are more of a click-sound on upstroke, or simply not as loud).Yep its normal its because of the case mounted bro!
It makes typing sound a bit funny how different they sound.
Edit: sorry double post
Hmm.. It makes typing on the HHKB much louder than on the Realforce 87U. I don't even think I can bring the HHKB to work, really, and it's mostly those center keys that let off a good *clack*.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:00:05
I have to ask... does anyone else have their center-most keys make a much louder *clack* on the upstroke? In particular, the G, H, T, and B keys are very loud compared with the keys on either end of the board (which are more of a click-sound on upstroke, or simply not as loud).Yep its normal its because of the case mounted bro!
It makes typing sound a bit funny how different they sound.
Edit: sorry double post
Hmm.. It makes typing on the HHKB much louder than on the Realforce 87U. I don't even think I can bring the HHKB to work, really, and it's mostly those center keys that let off a good *clack*.
Your colleagues should praise you for bringing them the wonderfol thock-sound. Those peasants! What do they type on themselves? I guess it's those Dell domes..
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:00:37
So I love the HHKB I got in black, problem is that I am a n00b at typing... So I look and peck... Thinking about picking up the HHKB-S, thought on the matter? Figured the black HHKB can be used at work, where the lights are always super bright, and the S will be easier to see at my house in the dark. Wanted peoples input on how different the S is compared to the default Pro 2.
Dis how you type?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7pUlPBQ4A24/UuvjyYIf0mI/AAAAAAAAAU0/S3pFwGZbDr0/w800-h800/FOTO-GIF-DR%2BHOUSE%2BESCRIBIENDO%2BCOMO%2BABURRIDO%2BEN%2BUN%2BCOMPUTADOR%2BY%2BEL%2BAMIGO%2BVIENDO.gif)
C'mon man! Learn to touch type. The women will love you for it when they pass by your cubicle (trust me, I know!)
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:04:14
C'mon man! Learn to touch type. The women will love you for it when they pass by your cubicle (trust me, I know!)People come crawling to my office when they hear me touch type..
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:06:47
C'mon man! Learn to touch type. The women will love you for it when they pass by your cubicle (trust me, I know!)People come crawling to my office when they hear me touch type..
The men too?!??
Power of the THOCK :)) :))
Post by: Altis on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:40:17
Hmm.. It makes typing on the HHKB much louder than on the Realforce 87U. I don't even think I can bring the HHKB to work, really, and it's mostly those center keys that let off a good *clack*.
Your colleagues should praise you for bringing them the wonderfol thock-sound. Those peasants! What do they type on themselves? I guess it's those Dell domes..
It's not the thock that bothers them, it's the clack! The thock is fine.
And yes, they use the worst of the Dell keyboards you can imagine. One of them around me has a broken one that sounds like a springboard every time they press the spacebar.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:42:02
(http://i.imgur.com/r9mwk1M.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:45:52
Make room for the Grandaddy of them allShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/r9mwk1M.jpg)
The sixty section of a venerable Sun UNIX board.
(http://i.imgur.com/FJymfpC.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:50:53
(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Sun, 07 February 2016, 19:53:15
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
This is more like the long lost uncle. Glad this was an ANSI board though, or we may not have the HHKB as we know it today.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 07 February 2016, 21:46:00
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.That spacebar is like an aircraft carrierShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
Post by: Diokhan on Sun, 07 February 2016, 23:42:35
Netherlands :cAnyone has a black pbt space bar that he wants to sell? :)
Where are you located?
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 08 February 2016, 00:00:30
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
wow, what keyboard is this?
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 February 2016, 04:29:44
Make room for the Grandaddy of them allShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/r9mwk1M.jpg)
Hey that isn't a Pro 2 >:D
This is cool tho
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:37:12
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
wow, what keyboard is this?
It is a Sun keyboard, that clearly was the base for the HHKB layout, that is, simple put, its sixty percent area, pretty much unchanged, but with shorter space bar and a pair of 1u modifiers.
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 08 February 2016, 14:22:48
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
wow, what keyboard is this?
It is a Sun keyboard, that clearly was the base for the HHKB layout, that is, simple put, its sixty percent area, pretty much unchanged, but with shorter space bar and a pair of 1u modifiers.
Especially with that linefeed button.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 February 2016, 14:57:56
Or the sixty percent of this, but with a shorter space bar, for style.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Hke5oUu.jpg)
wow, what keyboard is this?
It is a Sun keyboard, that clearly was the base for the HHKB layout, that is, simple put, its sixty percent area, pretty much unchanged, but with shorter space bar and a pair of 1u modifiers.
Especially with that linefeed button.
It was turned into a Fn key.
Post by: Bromono on Mon, 08 February 2016, 15:20:54
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Post by: qazeqaz on Mon, 08 February 2016, 15:32:25
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:28:18
Thoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Post by: qazeqaz on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:44:27
Thoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Good to know, guess I will gather some supplies and see how it turns out.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 08 February 2016, 17:51:57
Yeeee good luck on the project bro!Thoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Good to know, guess I will gather some supplies and see how it turns out.
Post by: alexjd99 on Mon, 08 February 2016, 23:31:23
Can't wait to see it when you're done! I always thought about carbon wrapping my HHKB, but have always been too lazy to do itThoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Good to know, guess I will gather some supplies and see how it turns out.
Post by: qazeqaz on Mon, 08 February 2016, 23:44:45
Can't wait to see it when you're done! I always thought about carbon wrapping my HHKB, but have always been too lazy to do itThoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Good to know, guess I will gather some supplies and see how it turns out.
I figured it would be an interesting project to undertake, really liking the HHKB and may just keep it and sell my Corsair Strafe.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 01:16:19
Yeah just sell that thing. The only cherry that is good is custom ones heheCan't wait to see it when you're done! I always thought about carbon wrapping my HHKB, but have always been too lazy to do itThoughts on 3M carbon fiber wrapping a HHKB? I was thinking about trying it out. Wasn't sure if it would interfere with any parts on it though.I want to see the final results bro! No its not gonna interfere with any parts
Good to know, guess I will gather some supplies and see how it turns out.
I figured it would be an interesting project to undertake, really liking the HHKB and may just keep it and sell my Corsair Strafe.
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 09 February 2016, 01:35:02
Post by: Fullcream on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:07:01
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
Post by: sth on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:09:15
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
wouldnt it be ****in cool if you had a kid and you didnt like that kid so you pulled out all its teeth and threw them away
you freak
Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:10:40
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
SHould the type-s that more silent that it's worth so much more?
From what I read from you it isn't :P
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:16:00
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.What the hell a scratchy hhkb? Never seen or hear that kind of sorcery!
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
Post by: Fullcream on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:16:23
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
wouldnt it be ****in cool if you had a kid and you didnt like that kid so you pulled out all its teeth and threw them away
you freak
Whoa. Cool man.
Ever tried topre on a board other than hhkb?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:35:23
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
Sorry to hear that! Must be some manufacturing issue.. I've never heard this before and I sure do watch this forum.
Post by: Fullcream on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:42:48
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 09 February 2016, 04:43:30
Hmm if you google lube hhkb. You come across a couple threads where people have mentioned that a few keys felt somewhat scratchy. I even read a post where someone said the type s seems to feel a bit more scratchy than the non S. But I don't think anyone's been as upset as me over it. I really hope I got a dud. Waiting on the regular hhkb.
Type S only or also the regular HHKB?
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 05:03:25
Hmm if you google lube hhkb. You come across a couple threads where people have mentioned that a few keys felt somewhat scratchy. I even read a post where someone said the type s seems to feel a bit more scratchy than the non S. But I don't think anyone's been as upset as me over it. I really hope I got a dud. Waiting on the regular hhkb.
I'm thinking you got a dud. I found my HHKB2 to be pretty damn smooth even before I lubricated it the other day. Now it's even smoother and better!
If you are in Sydney I could let you see mine if you want and see if it is for you.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 05:25:08
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 09 February 2016, 05:28:33
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
You never go full retard.
Post by: sth on Tue, 09 February 2016, 05:32:20
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
wouldnt it be ****in cool if you had a kid and you didnt like that kid so you pulled out all its teeth and threw them away
you freak
Whoa. Cool man.
Ever tried topre on a board other than hhkb?
a) yes
b) why
c) WHY
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 09 February 2016, 06:37:48
Hmm if you google lube hhkb. You come across a couple threads where people have mentioned that a few keys felt somewhat scratchy. I even read a post where someone said the type s seems to feel a bit more scratchy than the non S. But I don't think anyone's been as upset as me over it. I really hope I got a dud. Waiting on the regular hhkb.
I'm thinking you got a dud. I found my HHKB2 to be pretty damn smooth even before I lubricated it the other day. Now it's even smoother and better!
If you are in Sydney I could let you see mine if you want and see if it is for you.
I can't imagine a HHKB even smoother with lubing.
Post by: ashraf on Tue, 09 February 2016, 08:58:44
Just received my first ever HHKB Pro 2 last night. Keyboard experience before this has been MX blues and Kailh blues. I love the Topre feel. After having typed a bit on it when I received it yesterday, I was literally lying in bed thinking about the feel of the keys. The layout - particularly the location of the delete/backspace and control keys - will take some getting used to but I ultimately think it will be more efficient.
Does anyone else have crooked keycaps on their HHKB? Unless I'm just losing it, it appears that a couple of the keys are a little tilted or crooked. Maybe it's just me.
Now I just need to dress it up with an artisan or two and maybe a new Pexon cable.
I have a couple keys that look crooked, but not enough to bother me. I guess it helps having blank keys :P
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 09:47:59
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
this just screams troll to me but nothin is perfect
Post by: robbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 11:39:10
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
this just screams troll to me but nothin is perfect
Some people are just crazy and can't help it.
Post by: ajx on Tue, 09 February 2016, 12:26:22
its a sort of friction underneath your fingers
Normal HHKB does have it but its less noticeable than silenced HHKB, i dont own Type-S but my silenced HHKB feels scratchy on some keys, not all of them
Live with that, there is nothing you can do, its pretty NORMAL
I also own a silenced NT, much better silenced feeling, i must say, less friction, better typing experience overall but HHKB has its own charm which i really love (its more ergonomic with some inclination, the bottom of case is lower than the upper of case, i simply prefer inclined keyboard than flat keyboard design)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:10:48
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
Post by: crickclackman on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:05:18
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:12:57
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:18:55
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
With all due respect, it seems like he might've been on something :)) Who the hell dismembers a $300 purchase and then throws it away like nothing? Maybe he was being theatrical or maybe he's filthy rich. livingspeedbump is within reason here if you ask me.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:35:53
Just flipped the space bar on this bad boy, so much better now!!!!
You typing with a wrist rest? If your wrist is elevated properly the spacebar won't be uncomfortable anymore. Sorry this is just one of my keyboard pet peeves.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:45:29
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
With all due respect, it seems like he might've been on something :)) Who the hell dismembers a $300 purchase and then throws it away like nothing? Maybe he was being theatrical or maybe he's filthy rich. livingspeedbump is within reason here if you ask me.
Ha, yeah was /s
But really, if you throw an HHKB away, you are on drugs. Not just selling it to someone else, as they do hold value very well, is just dumb. Throwing away just the sliders and keycaps (leaving a plastic case and PCB?) makes even less sense haha.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:46:39
Just flipped the space bar on this bad boy, so much better now!!!!
You typing with a wrist rest? If your wrist is elevated properly the spacebar won't be uncomfortable anymore. Sorry this is just one of my keyboard pet peeves.
No wrist rest currently, I did however just put the KB on a Dell E7250 and it felt like butter (Acted somewhat like a wrist rest)
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:47:06
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Also, you do realize this is the "HHKB Pro 2 LOVE" thread, right?
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:51:19
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Yeah I don't get it. Plus no one knows what the guy is going through etc. I don't see the need to say such comments to someone. Even if their actions on the surface seems ridiculous.
As mentioned above, this is the love thread. Let's get back to loving our beloved HHKB! Typing more and more on mine after lubing is amazing. Can't wait to lube my Realforce and compare it to my HHKB.
Post by: Ovrclck on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:54:20
Bought my first HHKB last week in black non printed and yesterday a white, non printed. I'm really curious about the Type-S and will also be picking one up this Thursday..My wallet hates me.
After receiving my first HHKB, I ended up returning my Pok3r in Clears and keeping my Pok3r with Browns as a backup. Nothing else compares, MX feels so..Scratchy? At first I hated the layout of the keys, but after playing with the HHKB for about a week, the position of the control button makes a lot of sense. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/5WG4JNP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XloJbKO.jpg)
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:56:43
Hey everyone! Just wanted to say that the Topre addiction is real and not a myth. I've been converted and here to stay. :thumb:Dayum! You are going all in. Welcome to the HHKB club.
Bought my first HHKB last week in black non printed and yesterday a white, non printed. I'm really curious about the Type-S and will also be picking one up this Thursday..My wallet hates me.
After receiving my first HHKB, I ended up returning my Pok3r in Clears and keeping my Pok3r with Browns as a backup. Nothing else compares, MX feels so..Scratchy? At first I hated the layout of the keys, but after playing with the HHKB for about a week, the position of the control button makes a lot of sense. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5WG4JNP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XloJbKO.jpg)
Layout took a while for me to get used to. Now I can't live without the control and backspace location.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:00:16
The KeyKollevtiv variant
(http://i.imgur.com/K0tQRaS.jpg)
Grandfather and son
(http://i.imgur.com/BKxkLXo.jpg)
The elusive metal case
(http://i.imgur.com/NOn5ucN.jpg)
the hipro
(http://i.imgur.com/J0zDXyo.jpg)
limeade
(http://i.imgur.com/5ODakqB.jpg)
Post by: Ovrclck on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:02:48
Hey everyone! Just wanted to say that the Topre addiction is real and not a myth. I've been converted and here to stay. :thumb:Dayum! You are going all in. Welcome to the HHKB club.
Bought my first HHKB last week in black non printed and yesterday a white, non printed. I'm really curious about the Type-S and will also be picking one up this Thursday..My wallet hates me.
After receiving my first HHKB, I ended up returning my Pok3r in Clears and keeping my Pok3r with Browns as a backup. Nothing else compares, MX feels so..Scratchy? At first I hated the layout of the keys, but after playing with the HHKB for about a week, the position of the control button makes a lot of sense. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5WG4JNP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XloJbKO.jpg)
Layout took a while for me to get used to. Now I can't live without the control and backspace location.
Thanks! I'm happy to be here! :)
Post by: robbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:05:01
(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Post by: W_hinklebottom on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:06:43
Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
The nice thing about stock HHKB is that they all start out pretty DAUMN good! The tweaks are just personal taste.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:13:48
My many HHKBs have taken many forms over the yearsHows the hipro caps holding in the normal housing? Is it wobbly? I hear that we need to transfer the stem housing too right?, not in hhkb but realforce tkl
The KeyKollevtiv variantShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/K0tQRaS.jpg)
Grandfather and sonShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/BKxkLXo.jpg)
The elusive metal caseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/NOn5ucN.jpg)
the hiproShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/J0zDXyo.jpg)
limeadeShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5ODakqB.jpg)
Hey everyone! Just wanted to say that the Topre addiction is real and not a myth. I've been converted and here to stay. :thumb:Wellcome to the clubs
Bought my first HHKB last week in black non printed and yesterday a white, non printed. I'm really curious about the Type-S and will also be picking one up this Thursday..My wallet hates me.
After receiving my first HHKB, I ended up returning my Pok3r in Clears and keeping my Pok3r with Browns as a backup. Nothing else compares, MX feels so..Scratchy? At first I hated the layout of the keys, but after playing with the HHKB for about a week, the position of the control button makes a lot of sense. :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5WG4JNP.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XloJbKO.jpg)
Just flipped the space bar on this bad boy, so much better now!!!!Heresy.
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:16:43
Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:17:38
Pexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:17:45
Post by: Quackles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:20:02
Pexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:21:58
Oh 90N1NE cable I don't quite like their cables hehe. might order from pexonPexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:22:57
Oh 90N1NE cable I don't quite like their cables hehe. might order from pexonPexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
His cables are easily just as good as Pexons.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:26:09
Pexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Oh hell yeah! Glad to bring him (or her?) some business. I love the cable so far. It is my first custom USB cable so I can't compare it to Pexon or Mimic, but compared to other cables I own for my guitar and audio equipment, the quality is pretty damn fine!
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 18:37:59
I've tried the straight cable and not pretty pleased with the quality but hey I think I might buy the coiled one to see the quality of the coiled cable cause I hear that E3E said that teh coiled cable are pretty goodPexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Oh hell yeah! Glad to bring him (or her?) some business. I love the cable so far. It is my first custom USB cable so I can't compare it to Pexon or Mimic, but compared to other cables I own for my guitar and audio equipment, the quality is pretty damn fine!
Post by: livingspeedbump on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:05:15
I've tried the straight cable and not pretty pleased with the quality but hey I think I might buy the coiled one to see the quality of the coiled cable cause I hear that E3E said that teh coiled cable are pretty goodPexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Oh hell yeah! Glad to bring him (or her?) some business. I love the cable so far. It is my first custom USB cable so I can't compare it to Pexon or Mimic, but compared to other cables I own for my guitar and audio equipment, the quality is pretty damn fine!
pics? what didnt you like?
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:12:17
This is the only pics that I have (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/09/1a99e3b653e34f10d28deba397134856.jpg)I've tried the straight cable and not pretty pleased with the quality but hey I think I might buy the coiled one to see the quality of the coiled cable cause I hear that E3E said that teh coiled cable are pretty goodPexon cable right? Want to order ones but don't know what to choose so many options!Besides the cable, I'm still pretty stock while I wait for the latest HotKeys to ship out!When I saw your cable the other day I instantly went and ordered one from him and said I want it likes yours but red! Thank you! Excited for my cable.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hILZwPL.jpg)
Got it from here (https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/42iszc/usmd_h_30_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/). Cheaper than Pexon and seems just as good.
Oh hell yeah! Glad to bring him (or her?) some business. I love the cable so far. It is my first custom USB cable so I can't compare it to Pexon or Mimic, but compared to other cables I own for my guitar and audio equipment, the quality is pretty damn fine!
pics? what didnt you like?
Its that the straight cable is not thick and its so flexible but not like a good thick plastic cable or the cable flom my hdmi cable!
Post by: Altis on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:27:51
I'd move the PrintScreen from the 'I' to the ']' so that it's less of a reach.
I'd like to be able to assign the right diamond key to be another Function key so I could use my thumb for it. Even more interesting would be a second function layer using this key that would turn the four arrow keys into Home/End/PgUp/PgDown so that those same four keys can be used under each layer. Both my thumb and pinky are simultaneously on the right diamond and the Function keys while my index and middle finger are on the arrows so without moving you'd have access to your full navigation.
The current Home/End/PgUp/PgDn layout is a bit of a stretch for me and simply don't come naturally to me as the arrow keys do. Try imagining it on your HHKB and get an idea for what I mean.
Being able to turn the tilde key into primary Delete key (with tilde under the function layer) would server me much better.
One thing is for sure: this little keyboard has grown on me over the past few months and it has quite a bit of character. I think I'm also at my fastest and most accurate with it compared with other keyboards (though not much different than the Realforce 87U 45g uniform).
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 09 February 2016, 22:54:48
The KeyKollevtiv variantShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/K0tQRaS.jpg)
I honestly cannot understand why you would ever feel the need to change it from this...
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:06:24
did the high profile ABS caps change the sound a lot?
Post by: crickclackman on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:53:25
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Also, you do realize this is the "HHKB Pro 2 LOVE" thread, right?
Good point! But the drugs reference wasn't necessary.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:55:10
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Also, you do realize this is the "HHKB Pro 2 LOVE" thread, right?
Good point! But the drugs reference wasn't necessary.
Is there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:58:06
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:04:06
Is there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?
We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:12:48
Post by: qazeqaz on Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:28:42
I'm cool(/hot) burning to death with a realforce in my hand and a smile on my face.
Wouldn't mind trying 1 of those out, currently getting a Nova Touch KB sent to me and an HHKB-S. Want to modify the keyboards a bit.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 10 February 2016, 15:49:52
Is there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
:))
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 17:22:19
Heresy!. please no, tell me that you are kidding!I'm cool(/hot) burning to death with a realforce in my hand and a smile on my face.
Wouldn't mind trying 1 of those out, currently getting a Nova Touch KB sent to me and an HHKB-S. Want to modify the keyboards a bit.
Post by: DAVYtm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:06:39
Is there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Truth. I haven't been able to use any other KB for more than a week since I got my HHKB. It's just the perfect keyboard honestly. I'd like them to release a 55g version so I don't have to go through dome swapping like I will be soon.
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:19:10
@LSB dat hipro hhkb looks amazing! (can't forgive the flipped spacebar, however.)
did the high profile ABS caps change the sound a lot?
My space bars are flipped due to the height of my desk :rolleyes:
When I get the $$ for a wrist rest from inanis then they can go back to being classy
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:20:20
Decided to give hhkb a second chance. I really like its layout, form factor and overall aesthetics. I have just ordered a new one after being extremely disappointed with the type s. I found it to feel twice as scratchy as mx browns. I was so angry with my purchase that I took the sliders out and threw them in the trash along with the keycaps.
Could not believe that such a hyped up and expensive product is produced so poorly. I'm really only referring to the finish of the outer surface on the topre stems and possibly rails/guides on the slider and the slider housing.
I say this because the feeling of smoothness and preciseness was completely absent from the hhkb. When compared with my Novatouch which is usually considered a low quality topre board.
I am very glad that the hhkb was not my first topre experience. What a complete fiasco that would have been.
This time around I will be lubricating sliders, rails and stabilizers of course. After that if the topre experience is still nowhere near what it should be like on my silenced novatouch I will accept it for what it is and try to view its huge imperfections as endearing qualities. But that's not going to happen.
What kind of drugs are you on, and where can i get them?
No need to be rude. A lot of people prefer plate mounted Topres to the plastic wobbly HHKBs.
Also, you do realize this is the "HHKB Pro 2 LOVE" thread, right?
Good point! But the drugs reference wasn't necessary.
Drug and alcohol references are always necessary :cool: :))
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:37:17
No need to remake hhkb everyone, its perfect as it is with 45gIs there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Truth. I haven't been able to use any other KB for more than a week since I got my HHKB. It's just the perfect keyboard honestly. I'd like them to release a 55g version so I don't have to go through dome swapping like I will be soon.
Post by: DAVYtm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:39:58
No need to remake hhkb everyone, its perfect as it is with 45gIs there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Truth. I haven't been able to use any other KB for more than a week since I got my HHKB. It's just the perfect keyboard honestly. I'd like them to release a 55g version so I don't have to go through dome swapping like I will be soon.
I haven't tried 55g, but I disagree... I don't understand why you wouldn't want more choices?
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:40:54
Cause you know 55g in hhkb feels like ****!No need to remake hhkb everyone, its perfect as it is with 45gIs there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Truth. I haven't been able to use any other KB for more than a week since I got my HHKB. It's just the perfect keyboard honestly. I'd like them to release a 55g version so I don't have to go through dome swapping like I will be soon.
I haven't tried 55g, but I disagree... I don't understand why you wouldn't want more choices?
Post by: DAVYtm on Wed, 10 February 2016, 18:43:25
Cause you know 55g in hhkb feels like ****!No need to remake hhkb everyone, its perfect as it is with 45gIs there a HHKB Pro 2 Hate, thread?We should start one.
Well, I mean, I guess that is one way to sort out the heathens and prep them for being burned at the stake for their heresy.
Truth. I haven't been able to use any other KB for more than a week since I got my HHKB. It's just the perfect keyboard honestly. I'd like them to release a 55g version so I don't have to go through dome swapping like I will be soon.
I haven't tried 55g, but I disagree... I don't understand why you wouldn't want more choices?
I hope not! If that's the consensus though I'll just invest in a RF 87U
Post by: ajx on Thu, 11 February 2016, 04:32:46
https://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/the-best-hhkb-you-could-buy-t12879.html
I highly regret to sell it but i need bigger keyboard (TKL)
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 04:34:52
I am selling my perfect HHKB, pure dark grey blank, lubbed stabs, spacebar little modded (i sightly reduce noise from stock one), PBT spacebar, EK roof cover, Hasu's controller and the most important, it has been silenced with ironed landing pads (it took me hours/days to make the mod)This is not classified goddamnit!
https://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/the-best-hhkb-you-could-buy-t12879.html
I highly regret to sell it but i need bigger keyboard (TKL)
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:34:56
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:35:51
So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:38:10
I was going to get myself a 55g realforce for at home anyway, to try out the 55g feel.So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
But my hhkb goes with me to work.. So that is why I was wondering if it's worth it :P
Post by: raymogi on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:38:41
So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?
Yes. Best decision I've ever made to date. It's a perfect keyboard for home and traveling.
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:50:45
Nooooo let them hhkb be virgin!I was going to get myself a 55g realforce for at home anyway, to try out the 55g feel.So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
But my hhkb goes with me to work.. So that is why I was wondering if it's worth it
Nah its your choice but I have to say that 55g hhkb feels mushy and not good!
Post by: Diokhan on Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:03:02
Nooooo let them hhkb be virgin!I was going to get myself a 55g realforce for at home anyway, to try out the 55g feel.So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
But my hhkb goes with me to work.. So that is why I was wondering if it's worth it
Nah its your choice but I have to say that 55g hhkb feels mushy and not good!
If I mod the hhkb to 55g and not like it. It is reversible right?
Or will there always be a difference in the feeling of both boards after modding?
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:05:20
Yea its reversible. There will be some spring sound if you missallign the conic springs. So just let them be!Nooooo let them hhkb be virgin!I was going to get myself a 55g realforce for at home anyway, to try out the 55g feel.So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
But my hhkb goes with me to work.. So that is why I was wondering if it's worth it
Nah its your choice but I have to say that 55g hhkb feels mushy and not good!
If I mod the hhkb to 55g and not like it. It is reversible right?
Or will there always be a difference in the feeling of both boards after modding?
Post by: iLLucionist on Thu, 11 February 2016, 09:43:15
Yea its reversible. There will be some spring sound if you missallign the conic springs. So just let them be!Nooooo let them hhkb be virgin!I was going to get myself a 55g realforce for at home anyway, to try out the 55g feel.So if I find the 45g hhkb light.. is it worth modding to 55g?No and no if its too light get a realforce 55g and bam happiness!
But my hhkb goes with me to work.. So that is why I was wondering if it's worth it
Nah its your choice but I have to say that 55g hhkb feels mushy and not good!
If I mod the hhkb to 55g and not like it. It is reversible right?
Or will there always be a difference in the feeling of both boards after modding?
If you wanna mod, why not buy the 87UB 55g? I think the 55g's on the HHKB will still be mushy due to case mounting (87UB is plate mounted).
Post by: jerue on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:30:08
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:46:21
If someone can find me some silent purple sliders, I will (99% likely) rejoin this silly cult.
How many would you potentially need?
Post by: jerue on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:47:51
If someone can find me some silent purple sliders, I will (99% likely) rejoin this silly cult.
How many would you potentially need?
enough for a HHKB, so 60. willing to buy more though.
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 11 February 2016, 11:50:48
If someone can find me some silent purple sliders, I will (99% likely) rejoin this silly cult.
How many would you potentially need?
enough for a HHKB, so 60. willing to buy more though.
Damn I may only have a few after I mod the type S.
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 11 February 2016, 15:21:15
after lubing the stabilized keys on my type-s, there's still a bunch of sound generated.
for the spacebar, i'm thinking that maybe the tabs are producing a plastic-on-plastic sound. i thought about applying some lube, but i fear i'll make a mess..
removing the tabs is an option, but with the risk of breaking them, i don't think i'll be doing that. i'm not even sure it would make a difference, anyway..
so.. what other measures (besides lubing the stabilizers themselves) have you guys tried to reduce the sound?
Post by: Altis on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:00:04
other than lubing, has anyone tried anything to reduce the sound of the stabilized keys, particularly the spacebar?
after lubing the stabilized keys on my type-s, there's still a bunch of sound generated.
for the spacebar, i'm thinking that maybe the tabs are producing a plastic-on-plastic sound. i thought about applying some lube, but i fear i'll make a mess..
removing the tabs is an option, but with the risk of breaking them, i don't think i'll be doing that. i'm not even sure it would make a difference, anyway..
so.. what other measures (besides lubing the stabilizers themselves) have you guys tried to reduce the sound?
Have you sound deadened the case? Doesn't help that much with upstroke clack, though.
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:08:41
Post by: Ovrclck on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:13:40
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:16:55
Is there a big difference from the stock 45g to 55g? I always see people post about it but obviously I have never tried it.Just a heavier and a little more tactile or snappier differences.
You can never leave hhkb good sir! Just get the type s off classifiedIf someone can find me some silent purple sliders, I will (99% likely) rejoin this silly cult.
How many would you potentially need?
enough for a HHKB, so 60. willing to buy more though.
Post by: derb2k2 on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:19:28
Just purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:25:50
other than lubing, has anyone tried anything to reduce the sound of the stabilized keys, particularly the spacebar?checky my latest post on Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
after lubing the stabilized keys on my type-s, there's still a bunch of sound generated.
for the spacebar, i'm thinking that maybe the tabs are producing a plastic-on-plastic sound. i thought about applying some lube, but i fear i'll make a mess..
removing the tabs is an option, but with the risk of breaking them, i don't think i'll be doing that. i'm not even sure it would make a difference, anyway..
so.. what other measures (besides lubing the stabilizers themselves) have you guys tried to reduce the sound?
I believe the cracky sound coming from the steel stabilizer/wire that actually hits on plastic stabs or stabs have some loose either
Remove spacebar and touch stabs and see if it feels loose or not
There is nothing you can do, the best its lube, add some piece of foam under spacebar, on those ''shock absorbers'''
They need to be very slim
check here
https://deskthority.net/help-f53/silencing-rings-for-topre-rf-or-hhkb-t10051-390.html
I have little modded mine: you can put some 3M tape adhesive, foam, piece of your belt, felt cloth, whatever that is thin enough and can soften it, under PCB
https://imgur.com/a/OBpxQ
Here are some pictures
Credit to Valff which has succeded to silent entirely his spacebar (i failed on mine but it sightly quieter than before)
For the lube, use Kritox 502/503, not sure about the full ref
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:27:27
Nah they use a regular stem on type sJust purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
And the silenring cings are 0.2mm so the travel distance is 3.8 instead of 4.0
Post by: Ovrclck on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:29:59
I think it's just my imagination after all.Just purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
Oh ok. I guess the lack of "clack" on the upstroke is what's throwing me off.Nah they use a regular stem on type sJust purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
And the silenring cings are 0.2mm so the travel distance is 3.8 instead of 4.0
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 11 February 2016, 17:35:06
Yeah I think they makes the upstroke a bit softer so that's why its so goodI think it's just my imagination after all.Just purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.Oh ok. I guess the lack of "clack" on the upstroke is what's throwing me off.Nah they use a regular stem on type sJust purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
And the silenring cings are 0.2mm so the travel distance is 3.8 instead of 4.0
Post by: Ovrclck on Thu, 11 February 2016, 18:00:28
Yeah I think they makes the upstroke a bit softer so that's why its so goodI think it's just my imagination after all.Just purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.Oh ok. I guess the lack of "clack" on the upstroke is what's throwing me off.Nah they use a regular stem on type sJust purchased my third HHKB today. Type-S variant. Seems like it needs a bit more breaking in compared to my regular HHKB. I can definitely notice the difference in travel. Other than that. I love it!
(http://i.imgur.com/FC42bNv.jpg) (http://imgur.com/FC42bNv)
I don't think there should be a difference in travel? Are you sure about this? If I recall correctly, the stems are a bit longer to compensate for the silencing method.
Interesting.
And the silenring cings are 0.2mm so the travel distance is 3.8 instead of 4.0
I guess in a week or so I'll reach oneness with cup rubber. :)
Post by: jerue on Thu, 11 February 2016, 18:21:01
You can never leave hhkb good sir! Just get the type s off classified
once you go black...
Damn I may only have a few after I mod the type S.
good luck with your mod! I might just have to pony up for a silenced board from japan.
Post by: Madeupword on Fri, 12 February 2016, 00:46:40
Would this mean the regular HHKB gives a better feel while the Type S sounds better?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 00:48:23
Post by: raymogi on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:02:08
Was about to get a Type S as my second HHKB, until the scratchy comment.
Would this mean the regular HHKB gives a better feel while the Type S sounds better?
Mine is fine as well. Type S as your 2nd HHKB is worth it, especially for work.
Post by: Dongulator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:40:27
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:43:58
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
Get Grey from EK or get Type-S proxied from Japan. Type-S feels a little tighter, IMO, normal is a little cheaper.
Post by: Dongulator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:45:22
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
Get Grey from EK or get Type-S proxied from Japan. Type-S feels a little tighter, IMO, normal is a little cheaper.
why not type-s from EK?
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:49:24
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
Get Grey from EK or get Type-S proxied from Japan. Type-S feels a little tighter, IMO, normal is a little cheaper.
why not type-s from EK?
Way more expensive.
Post by: Dongulator on Fri, 12 February 2016, 01:52:03
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
Get Grey from EK or get Type-S proxied from Japan. Type-S feels a little tighter, IMO, normal is a little cheaper.
why not type-s from EK?
Way more expensive.
makes since.. I will try and proxy from JP, but I have a feeling I will settle on the way more expensive. Thank you for the assist. ^_^
Post by: jerue on Fri, 12 February 2016, 09:36:05
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
make a black type-s m8
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 12 February 2016, 09:37:10
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
make a black type-s m8
Sounds like a winner to me. :thumb:
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 12 February 2016, 09:43:51
Was about to get a Type S as my second HHKB, until the scratchy comment.Now thats a good idea! More hhkb is better
Would this mean the regular HHKB gives a better feel while the Type S sounds better?
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.Black grey type s done!
I've been pondering over which color hhkb to get for the past few days. Do I get black, do I get type s.. someone make the decision I can't.
Get Grey from EK or get Type-S proxied from Japan. Type-S feels a little tighter, IMO, normal is a little cheaper.
why not type-s from EK?
Way more expensive.
makes since.. I will try and proxy from JP, but I have a feeling I will settle on the way more expensive. Thank you for the assist. ^_^
Naww dood just go pm apolotary for proxying stuff or evo_spec
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 12 February 2016, 15:10:55
Black grey type s done!I would buy a black Type-S in a heart beat.
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 12 February 2016, 16:14:20
(http://i.imgur.com/9lJwGTm.jpg)
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 12 February 2016, 16:45:52
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lolShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/9lJwGTm.jpg)
I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
I'm not sure about separate key caps, but you can buy a whole replacement set from elite keyboards if you want the original PBT caps. If you are not bothered by that, you can buy replacement ABS shift keys in colors from them.
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 16:48:17
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lol
damn. Is it that pen in the background? Must've been pretty heavy to do that or you dropped it from on high.
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 12 February 2016, 16:51:20
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lolShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/9lJwGTm.jpg)
I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
I'm not sure about separate key caps, but you can buy a whole replacement set from elite keyboards if you want the original PBT caps. If you are not bothered by that, you can buy replacement ABS shift keys in colors from them.
I'm super OCD when it comes to expensive equipment.
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. Sigh
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lol
damn. Is it that pen in the background? Must've been pretty heavy to do that or you dropped it from on high.
Yes! Basterd pen!
Post by: iLLucionist on Fri, 12 February 2016, 16:54:05
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lolShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/9lJwGTm.jpg)
I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
I'm not sure about separate key caps, but you can buy a whole replacement set from elite keyboards if you want the original PBT caps. If you are not bothered by that, you can buy replacement ABS shift keys in colors from them.
I'm super OCD when it comes to expensive equipment.
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. SighAnyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lol
damn. Is it that pen in the background? Must've been pretty heavy to do that or you dropped it from on high.
Yes! Basterd pen!
You bought three? Wow nice.. Which ones and why??
I can see the OCD.. When I see dust or crumbs near or on my kb I go full retard. My GF eats ABOVE her black HHKB. Seeing that just hurts inside..
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 12 February 2016, 17:21:18
Anyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lolShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/9lJwGTm.jpg)
I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
I'm not sure about separate key caps, but you can buy a whole replacement set from elite keyboards if you want the original PBT caps. If you are not bothered by that, you can buy replacement ABS shift keys in colors from them.
I'm super OCD when it comes to expensive equipment.
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. SighAnyone know where I can find a replacement shift key? I dropped a heavy pen and nicked the corner. Doh!! and I just got this yesterday lol
damn. Is it that pen in the background? Must've been pretty heavy to do that or you dropped it from on high.
Yes! Basterd pen!
You bought three? Wow nice.. Which ones and why??
I can see the OCD.. When I see dust or crumbs near or on my kb I go full retard. My GF eats ABOVE her black HHKB. Seeing that just hurts inside..
I bought my first one in black non printed and immediately fell in love with Topre. Then 3 days later I decided I wanted a white one. Purchased the white one then decided I wanted the Type-S instead. EK was nice enough to allow me to upgrade to the S (living so close has it's perks). My brother's birthday is coming up and he mentioned he liked the way the HHKB felt. So I gave it to him and bought a replacement.
I think we all go full retard with Topre. Must be the metal in those springs that mess with our minds :D
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 17:33:21
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. Sigh
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/36b99731a7a006c7cbfd4f188a2931e8/tumblr_nuu3q7X5BH1uqe8iio1_250.gif)
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 12 February 2016, 18:14:53
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. SighShow Image(http://38.media.tumblr.com/36b99731a7a006c7cbfd4f188a2931e8/tumblr_nuu3q7X5BH1uqe8iio1_250.gif)
:p
I found a new set on Ebay for under $60. This is actually a good thing since I'm venturing into making custom keycaps for Topre. This will be my play set :)
Edit:Being single has it's perks right?
Post by: derb2k2 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 18:30:20
EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. SighShow Image(http://38.media.tumblr.com/36b99731a7a006c7cbfd4f188a2931e8/tumblr_nuu3q7X5BH1uqe8iio1_250.gif)
:p
I found a new set on Ebay for under $60. This is actually a good thing since I'm venturing into making custom keycaps for Topre. This will be my play set :)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f1/da/8e/f1da8ef4f144ef530d42c88bac9e6d52.jpg)
Nice bro. This is actually pretty interesting news considering the dearth of topre sets.
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 12 February 2016, 20:23:49
Thanks man.EK is about 10 minutes from my house. Maybe it will be cheaper if I bought a set via proxy? $80 is hard to swallow but then again I did just buy 3 HHKB's from EK. SighShow Image(http://38.media.tumblr.com/36b99731a7a006c7cbfd4f188a2931e8/tumblr_nuu3q7X5BH1uqe8iio1_250.gif)
:p
I found a new set on Ebay for under $60. This is actually a good thing since I'm venturing into making custom keycaps for Topre. This will be my play set :)Show Image(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f1/da/8e/f1da8ef4f144ef530d42c88bac9e6d52.jpg)
Nice bro. This is actually pretty interesting news considering the dearth of topre sets.
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 13 February 2016, 06:55:32
checky my latest post on Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
I believe the cracky sound coming from the steel stabilizer/wire that actually hits on plastic stabs or stabs have some loose either
Remove spacebar and touch stabs and see if it feels loose or not
There is nothing you can do, the best its lube, add some piece of foam under spacebar, on those ''shock absorbers'''
They need to be very slim
check here
https://deskthority.net/help-f53/silencing-rings-for-topre-rf-or-hhkb-t10051-390.html
I have little modded mine: you can put some 3M tape adhesive, foam, piece of your belt, felt cloth, whatever that is thin enough and can soften it, under PCB
https://imgur.com/a/OBpxQ
Here are some pictures
Credit to Valff which has succeded to silent entirely his spacebar (i failed on mine but it sightly quieter than before)
For the lube, use Kritox 502/503, not sure about the full ref
thanks a lot, i'll definitely look into it!
krytox 502/503, though? do you mean 203/205? i have never even seen 500+
I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
i have some damage inside the case. it actually bothers me a lot, lol..
Have you sound deadened the case? Doesn't help that much with upstroke clack, though.
i would, but i don't really know what material i should get..
some kind of foam?
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 13 February 2016, 06:57:40
I bought my first one in black non printed and immediately fell in love with Topre. Then 3 days later I decided I wanted a white one. Purchased the white one then decided I wanted the Type-S instead. EK was nice enough to allow me to upgrade to the S (living so close has it's perks). My brother's birthday is coming up and he mentioned he liked the way the HHKB felt. So I gave it to him and bought a replacement.
I think we all go full retard with Topre. Must be the metal in those springs that mess with our minds :D
Spread the Topre-love brother!
Post by: DAVYtm on Sat, 13 February 2016, 12:27:49
Post by: Altis on Sat, 13 February 2016, 12:45:01
Here's the thing: HHKB Pro v2 is the best stock keyboard to ever exist.
It is. Unless you count the Realforce 87U. :cool:
Post by: DAVYtm on Sat, 13 February 2016, 12:47:04
Here's the thing: HHKB Pro v2 is the best stock keyboard to ever exist.
It is. Unless you count the Realforce 87U. :cool:
I've yet to try a plate-mounted Topre board. If I can find a 55g full-size RF I will be on that for work
Post by: Altis on Sat, 13 February 2016, 13:01:47
Here's the thing: HHKB Pro v2 is the best stock keyboard to ever exist.
It is. Unless you count the Realforce 87U. :cool:
I've yet to try a plate-mounted Topre board. If I can find a 55g full-size RF I will be on that for work
I've found that the 87U (both 45g and 55g) seem smoother and have a more consistent sound. My HHKB makes a much clackier sound in the center than the outter keys, and is just louder in general.
Post by: grav3serker on Sat, 13 February 2016, 23:22:47
(http://i.giphy.com/DfY1ne8xhrDSU.gif)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 14 February 2016, 00:07:51
@LSB dat hipro hhkb looks amazing! (can't forgive the flipped spacebar, however.)
did the high profile ABS caps change the sound a lot?
My space bars are flipped due to the height of my desk :rolleyes:
When I get the $$ for a wrist rest from inanis then they can go back to being classy
Your first move should be to get a new desk!
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 14 February 2016, 05:37:41
I love this thread. I want to try one of these guys so bad.Show Image(http://i.giphy.com/DfY1ne8xhrDSU.gif)
Yep its more uniform feeling and sound. and yeah its smootherHere's the thing: HHKB Pro v2 is the best stock keyboard to ever exist.
It is. Unless you count the Realforce 87U. :cool:
I've yet to try a plate-mounted Topre board. If I can find a 55g full-size RF I will be on that for work
I've found that the 87U (both 45g and 55g) seem smoother and have a more consistent sound. My HHKB makes a much clackier sound in the center than the outter keys, and is just louder in general.
But hhkb is a really fun board to use
Post by: Altis on Sun, 14 February 2016, 12:37:57
I've found that the 87U (both 45g and 55g) seem smoother and have a more consistent sound. My HHKB makes a much clackier sound in the center than the outter keys, and is just louder in general.Yep its more uniform feeling and sound. and yeah its smoother
But hhkb is a really fun board to use
Aye. I'd say that the Realforce is technically better, but the HHKB has character that many find more appealing.
Post by: ajx on Sun, 14 February 2016, 12:49:54
Felt cloth, something as thin as possible, most likely as thin as ironed landing pads but i warn you, it will reduce sightly spacebar travel and make it also little harder to push itchecky my latest post on Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
I believe the cracky sound coming from the steel stabilizer/wire that actually hits on plastic stabs or stabs have some loose either
Remove spacebar and touch stabs and see if it feels loose or not
There is nothing you can do, the best its lube, add some piece of foam under spacebar, on those ''shock absorbers'''
They need to be very slim
check here
https://deskthority.net/help-f53/silencing-rings-for-topre-rf-or-hhkb-t10051-390.html
I have little modded mine: you can put some 3M tape adhesive, foam, piece of your belt, felt cloth, whatever that is thin enough and can soften it, under PCB
https://imgur.com/a/OBpxQ
Here are some pictures
Credit to Valff which has succeded to silent entirely his spacebar (i failed on mine but it sightly quieter than before)
For the lube, use Kritox 502/503, not sure about the full ref
thanks a lot, i'll definitely look into it!
krytox 502/503, though? do you mean 203/205? i have never even seen 500+I must say it looks pretty minor, but I can see your frustration. Ouch!
i have some damage inside the case. it actually bothers me a lot, lol..Have you sound deadened the case? Doesn't help that much with upstroke clack, though.
i would, but i don't really know what material i should get..
some kind of foam?
I suggest you using Kritox 205 similar grease/lubricant
Post by: kurukato on Sun, 14 February 2016, 13:58:50
I've read a lot about using novatouch sliders(just wanna add some keys to the top row)
Has anyone tried to use BTC sliders?
(http://i.imgur.com/7ZMHLVOh.jpg)
Post by: Ovrclck on Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:52:18
Post by: Ovrclck on Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:54:26
Just got mine off amazon. Coming from blues it's weird. but I love it.
I've read a lot about using novatouch sliders(just wanna add some keys to the top row)
Has anyone tried to use BTC sliders?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7ZMHLVOh.jpg)
Nice HHKB! Welcome to the club!
Post by: appleonama on Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:58:06
Why does HHKB make you want to sell your MX based boards? Tried going back to my Pok3r with Browns + DSA Dolch and can't stand it anymore. I'm actually slower when typing on the browns versus Topre.
topre is just too perfect its a weird thing
I type 90+ on my hhkb but on any other board it is around 70
(http://i.imgur.com/ubcoN4I.jpg)
Post by: Ovrclck on Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:03:11
Why does HHKB make you want to sell your MX based boards? Tried going back to my Pok3r with Browns + DSA Dolch and can't stand it anymore. I'm actually slower when typing on the browns versus Topre.
topre is just too perfect its a weird thing
I type 90+ on my hhkb but on any other board it is around 70Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubcoN4I.jpg)
Welp that confirms it. Selling the Pok3r. :thumb:
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:11:15
I type 90+ on my hhkb but on any other board it is around 70Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubcoN4I.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Emi7rj3Uec0/UemFPCZRfiI/AAAAAAAAN3Q/cx31wUpVXNE/s1600/triple-h-nod.gif)
Post by: robbles on Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:52:18
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:59:07
Just got mine off amazon. Coming from blues it's weird. but I love it.No please god No let them hhkb be virgin
I've read a lot about using novatouch sliders(just wanna add some keys to the top row)
Has anyone tried to use BTC sliders?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7ZMHLVOh.jpg)
Why does HHKB make you want to sell your MX based boards? Tried going back to my Pok3r with Browns + DSA Dolch and can't stand it anymore. I'm actually slower when typing on the browns versus Topre.Ya just sell the remaining board and get anothre topre
It finally happened. I started bringing my HHKB home with me on weekends. Those two days a week without it are torture. I understand this will inevitably result in me getting 2, one for home and one for work. And it will probably be a white one with blanks...*looks at bank account*The more hhkb the better!
Post by: Ovrclck on Sun, 14 February 2016, 18:12:24
Just got mine off amazon. Coming from blues it's weird. but I love it.No please god No let them hhkb be virgin
I've read a lot about using novatouch sliders(just wanna add some keys to the top row)
Has anyone tried to use BTC sliders?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7ZMHLVOh.jpg)Why does HHKB make you want to sell your MX based boards? Tried going back to my Pok3r with Browns + DSA Dolch and can't stand it anymore. I'm actually slower when typing on the browns versus Topre.Ya just sell the remaining board and get anothre topreIt finally happened. I started bringing my HHKB home with me on weekends. Those two days a week without it are torture. I understand this will inevitably result in me getting 2, one for home and one for work. And it will probably be a white one with blanks...*looks at bank account*The more hhkb the better!
I could get another White non S with blanks to complete my HHKB collection. :p
Post by: frogthejam19 on Sun, 14 February 2016, 23:07:32
Post by: Altis on Mon, 15 February 2016, 00:25:02
My other Keyboards barley see use. I can see what all the thock about Topre is about. It looks goofy when I bring it out to type on in class but my fingers and ears could careless because it all just sweet feels and joyous music in my ears/
I certainly understand the desire, but does the noise not bother anyone?
I only occasionally bring my HHKB to work due to the noise. My 87U sounds much more conspicuous, even though they're both sound deadened.
Post by: lootbag on Mon, 15 February 2016, 02:06:53
Boy was the Duck Viper quiet compared to my HHKB.
Most likely because I could barely bottom out the heavy vintage blacks and my HHKB is not silenced.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 12:07:18
(http://i.imgur.com/EgqGSW4.jpg)
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 16 February 2016, 12:19:58
I just got the HHKB type S in the mail! Testing it at work. It is pretty silent minus the space bar, any recommendations on how to silence that bad boy?!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EgqGSW4)
Nice!
use lube maybe? You may have to open it up. Not too difficult with HHKB.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 12:32:34
I just got the HHKB type S in the mail! Testing it at work. It is pretty silent minus the space bar, any recommendations on how to silence that bad boy?!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EgqGSW4)
Nice!
use lube maybe? You may have to open it up. Not too difficult with HHKB.
With the opening up of it. They appear to be the same size, with that said. Think I can place the Type S body into the black case of the normal Pro 2? Also what type of lube do you guys recommend?
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 February 2016, 12:47:42
I just got the HHKB type S in the mail! Testing it at work. It is pretty silent minus the space bar, any recommendations on how to silence that bad boy?!Show Image(http://imgur.com/EgqGSW4)
I have no idea but that's pretty.
Also your picture doesn't work at first so change the link from http://imgur.com/EgqGSW4 to http://i.imgur.com/EgqGSW4.jpg
Post by: Bucake on Tue, 16 February 2016, 13:23:43
With the opening up of it. They appear to be the same size, with that said. Think I can place the Type S body into the black case of the normal Pro 2? Also what type of lube do you guys recommend?
yep yep, same cases, can easily swap them if you want.
as for lube, for hhkb stabilizers i definitely recommend thick lube, not the thin/oily stuff.
i used krytox 205 myself, because that's what i had, but there are probably many dozens of different lubes that would work just as well well.
for more recommendations you could just do a few google searches. i think that deskthority, geekhack and reddit all have a big amount of threads on the matter.
oh, one thing, if you screw the PCB back in place: be gentle!
as soon as the screws start giving any resistance, just stop. i've damaged a few screw-holes because i gave that extra twist at the end.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 13:25:56
With the opening up of it. They appear to be the same size, with that said. Think I can place the Type S body into the black case of the normal Pro 2? Also what type of lube do you guys recommend?
yep yep, same cases, can easily swap them if you want.
as for lube, for hhkb stabilizers i definitely recommend thick lube, not the thin/oily stuff.
i used krytox 205 myself, because that's what i had, but there are probably many dozens of different lubes that would work just as well well.
for more recommendations you could just do a few google searches. i think that deskthority, geekhack and reddit all have a big amount of threads on the matter.
oh, one thing, if you screw the PCB back in place: be gentle!
as soon as the screws start giving any resistance, just stop. i've damaged a few screw-holes because i gave that extra twist at the end.
Damn that is no good! But I appreciate the feedback and heads up. Definitely do not want to damage my babies!!!
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 16 February 2016, 13:48:20
oh, one thing, if you screw the PCB back in place: be gentle!
as soon as the screws start giving any resistance, just stop. i've damaged a few screw-holes because i gave that extra twist at the end.
this is great advice especially since the thockiness of the HHKB is dependent on a nice tight fit between the pcb and domes/caps. I also messed up several of these by over-tightening the screws.
Post by: edb5s on Tue, 16 February 2016, 14:37:29
I bought these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015KLJE0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 and just put them in the board. Opened up the case and just put them in groups of two (each individual section of weight is very small) symmetrically on the bottom of the case. The weights have adhesive backing so they stuck to the case very easily.
The board now feels much more substantial. It makes a great deal of difference. Would recommend for those of you, like me, who wanted a heavier feel to the board.
P.S. Lead isn't as harmful as the state of California would have you believe. As long as you're not touching it directly constantly it is fine.
Post by: edb5s on Tue, 16 February 2016, 14:41:16
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 14:45:48
And if anyone really wants to see pictures, I'll open it back up and take some. I forgot to do it while I had it open.
Always down to see a project!
Post by: edb5s on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:04:57
And if anyone really wants to see pictures, I'll open it back up and take some. I forgot to do it while I had it open.
Always down to see a project!
Okie doke. You only need to unscrew the three screws on the bottom of the case:
(http://i.imgur.com/Z7SC4a7.jpg?1)
Next, carefully prop open the case. I had this tiny screwdriver to hold it open:
(http://i.imgur.com/fidt2H8.jpg)
You can see all of the weights now. I didn't get them quite symmetrical due to the placement of the controller and the standoffs, but the weight difference is not noticeable from side to side. These images give an idea of the size of each weight:
(http://i.imgur.com/CTZAfmp.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CnUKtP0.jpg)
And all back together, with Pexon cable:
(http://i.imgur.com/Db0P1rK.jpg?1)
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:06:00
Post by: Bucake on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:10:18
maybe you should set it on fire.
or just cure the case of crazy-spacebar that it has.
Post by: edb5s on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:39:36
i think your hhkb is sick. just look at that spacebar.To each his own. I actually have only had mine for a few weeks and have tried it both ways. I don't have a strong preference either way, but I favor the flipped spacebar a bit.
maybe you should set it on fire.
or just cure the case of crazy-spacebar that it has.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 15:56:43
i think your hhkb is sick. just look at that spacebar.
maybe you should set it on fire.
or just cure the case of crazy-spacebar that it has.
WHY DO YOU GOTTA HATE?! Ha, I personally have flipped both my HHKB space bars. But I use them for gaming and I rage pretty hard usually.
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 16 February 2016, 16:23:36
Okie doke. You only need to unscrew the three screws on the bottom of the case:
thanks for the pics! I actually thought about doing this when I initially got mine but portability would diminish and I do carry mine around a lot. I think it was due to the MX boards I previously had having had a metal plate. PCB mount > plate mount doe.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:07:47
i think your hhkb is sick. just look at that spacebar.To each his own. I actually have only had mine for a few weeks and have tried it both ways. I don't have a strong preference either way, but I favor the flipped spacebar a bit.
maybe you should set it on fire.
or just cure the case of crazy-spacebar that it has.
I always have to ask when I see a flipped spacebar. Do you use a wrist wrest? If your wrists are elevated properly, you won't feel the need to flip the spacebar. In fact, with correctly elevated wrists, flipped spacebars feel really bad and can even stick a little. A wrist wrest is absolutely a requirement with any mechkb IMO. Rubber dome keyboards and scissor keyboards can be lower profile where a wrist rest isn't required, and they have conditioned us away from wrist wresting! Sincerely, a lover of wrist rests :thumb:
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 16 February 2016, 17:19:12
Post by: Altis on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:24:41
i think your hhkb is sick. just look at that spacebar.To each his own. I actually have only had mine for a few weeks and have tried it both ways. I don't have a strong preference either way, but I favor the flipped spacebar a bit.
maybe you should set it on fire.
or just cure the case of crazy-spacebar that it has.
I always have to ask when I see a flipped spacebar. Do you use a wrist wrest? If your wrists are elevated properly, you won't feel the need to flip the spacebar. In fact, with correctly elevated wrists, flipped spacebars feel really bad and can even stick a little. A wrist wrest is absolutely a requirement with any mechkb IMO. Rubber dome keyboards and scissor keyboards can be lower profile where a wrist rest isn't required, and they have conditioned us away from wrist wresting! Sincerely, a lover of wrist rests :thumb:
Some good advice right here, although I would note that you should always have your wrists lifted off of the wrist rest while typing.
But yes, when typing with proper form, the flipped spacebar actually feels pretty wrong.
Having said all that, the edge of the spacebar on the HHKB seems awfully harsh and digs in to my thumb. It could use to be a little bit more rounded, or the spacebar slightly less angled forward; it isn't a key that's pressed with your fingers so it doesn't need the forward slant of the rest of the bottom row as it is currently.
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 19:39:36
Seriously thinking about getting a second HHKB just to use at work. I don't want to take mine back and forth from home. Maybe I'll try to sneak $200 out of my tax return and hope my wife doesn't see it. :))
Do it, YOU WON'T! Haha I loved the Pro 2 and I used it quite a bit, but I too did not want to bring it back and forth. So the type S is pretty sweet. Not to mention it sounds like a GD dream!!!!!
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 16 February 2016, 20:36:05
Seriously thinking about getting a second HHKB just to use at work. I don't want to take mine back and forth from home. Maybe I'll try to sneak $200 out of my tax return and hope my wife doesn't see it. :))
Do it, YOU WON'T! Haha I loved the Pro 2 and I used it quite a bit, but I too did not want to bring it back and forth. So the type S is pretty sweet. Not to mention it sounds like a GD dream!!!!!
I want to try a Type S, but honestly have nothing to complain about with the noise of the normal HHKB.
Post by: demik on Tue, 16 February 2016, 21:27:39
Post by: qazeqaz on Tue, 16 February 2016, 22:06:38
Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 17 February 2016, 00:44:58
Post by: Diokhan on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:08:26
I love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?
If you do it properly?
No.
But living is harsh tho.
Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:10:00
Lubing.**I love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?
If you do it properly?
No.
But living is harsh tho.
But that is too true, life is cruel and uncaring.
Post by: Corsa1r on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:10:16
I didn't know heaven was a place on earth until today.
Post by: henz on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:30:31
Post by: sth on Wed, 17 February 2016, 01:49:22
Why does HHKB make you want to sell your MX based boards? Tried going back to my Pok3r with Browns + DSA Dolch and can't stand it anymore. I'm actually slower when typing on the browns versus Topre.
topre is just too perfect its a weird thing
I type 90+ on my hhkb but on any other board it is around 70Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ubcoN4I.jpg)
what is that weird crap on esc?
Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 17 February 2016, 02:06:36
lubed mine yesterday. feels nice.
When I've explored old threads about lubing the HHKB I see a lot of comments of people saying that It either didn't really change much, or took something away from the original feel in a negative way. I assumed this was because they didn't lube properly. Is there anyone here who has tried lubed and unlubed and prefers the the latter?
Post by: henz on Wed, 17 February 2016, 02:12:07
lubed mine yesterday. feels nice.
When I've explored old threads about lubing the HHKB I see a lot of comments of people saying that It either didn't really change much, or took something away from the original feel in a negative way. I assumed this was because they didn't lube properly. Is there anyone here who has tried lubed and unlubed and prefers the the latter?
there is not much difference its just a little smoother, i saw some post by brocaps where he painted out where to lube. Did that HAPPAF.
Post by: Otesanek on Wed, 17 February 2016, 02:22:23
lubed mine yesterday. feels nice.
When I've explored old threads about lubing the HHKB I see a lot of comments of people saying that It either didn't really change much, or took something away from the original feel in a negative way. I assumed this was because they didn't lube properly. Is there anyone here who has tried lubed and unlubed and prefers the the latter?
there is not much difference its just a little smoother, i saw some post by brocaps where he painted out where to lube. Did that HAPPAF.
Yeah I saw that same post. HAPPAF?
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 05:38:08
I got my Type-S HHKB today.... the first Topre board I have ever touched....and it's.. soo... beautiful... *sobs*
I didn't know heaven was a place on earth until today.
You know you're in heaven when you're typing on a cloud of boobs. ^-^
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 17 February 2016, 07:34:53
I love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?NO NO GOD NO
DON'T EVER DEFILE HER WITH THOSE! just buy a hhkb type s if you like silenced topre
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:22:02
I got my Type-S HHKB today.... the first Topre board I have ever touched....and it's.. soo... beautiful... *sobs*
I didn't know heaven was a place on earth until today.
You know you're in heaven when you're typing on a cloud of boobs. ^-^
so... cherry mx red?
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:28:42
so... cherry mx red?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif)
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:30:27
I love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?NO NO GOD NO
DON'T EVER DEFILE HER WITH THOSE! just buy a hhkb type s if you like silenced topre
Ignore him, the silencing rings work just as well for way less than the cost of a Type-S.
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:40:58
ja don't listen to meI love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?NO NO GOD NO
DON'T EVER DEFILE HER WITH THOSE! just buy a hhkb type s if you like silenced topre
Ignore him, the silencing rings work just as well for way less than the cost of a Type-S.
but 1 thing if you want to defile your hhkb you need to allign the conic springs real careful cause if you do it wrong you would get a spring noise that is really annoying and even more you could scratch the stem and make a scratchy hhkb just my advice
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 17 February 2016, 08:42:57
ja don't listen to meI love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?NO NO GOD NO
DON'T EVER DEFILE HER WITH THOSE! just buy a hhkb type s if you like silenced topre
Ignore him, the silencing rings work just as well for way less than the cost of a Type-S.
but 1 thing if you want to defile your hhkb you need to allign the conic springs real careful cause if you do it wrong you would get a spring noise that is really annoying and even more you could scratch the stem and make a scratchy hhkb just my advice
Also shouldn't be an issue, as you're placing the rings on the stems, rather than touching anything to do with the springs. I've had my board open probably 5-6 times on separate occasions, and honestly haven't even paid attention to the springs/domes, and it's been perfectly fine.
YMMV.
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:00:23
you are damn lucky! yeah my advice don't use screwdriver to pull those stemja don't listen to meI love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?NO NO GOD NO
DON'T EVER DEFILE HER WITH THOSE! just buy a hhkb type s if you like silenced topre
Ignore him, the silencing rings work just as well for way less than the cost of a Type-S.
but 1 thing if you want to defile your hhkb you need to allign the conic springs real careful cause if you do it wrong you would get a spring noise that is really annoying and even more you could scratch the stem and make a scratchy hhkb just my advice
Also shouldn't be an issue, as you're placing the rings on the stems, rather than touching anything to do with the springs. I've had my board open probably 5-6 times on separate occasions, and honestly haven't even paid attention to the springs/domes, and it's been perfectly fine.
YMMV.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:03:00
so... cherry mx red?Show Image(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rwro8doozUw/T755eP-AslI/AAAAAAAABPU/nCWLy9hg7Dg/s1600/triple-h-angry.gif)
+1 Don't defile the HHKB name by comparing to MX Red.
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:06:49
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:08:03
Clearly you guys don't know where the "typing on a cloud of boobs" reference first came from.
Membrane keyboards?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:08:47
Clearly you guys don't know where the "typing on a cloud of boobs" reference first came from.
I do. But it is a more apt description for Topre. So...
Post by: Vittra on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:11:17
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 17 February 2016, 09:21:36
Clearly you guys don't know where the "typing on a cloud of boobs" reference first came from.
I do. But it is a more apt description for Topre. So...
Exactly, and considering what Corsair said, it felt sooo right! :)
Post by: qazeqaz on Wed, 17 February 2016, 22:46:07
Don't hate though! I left my Type S untouched!
Post by: mseaworthy on Wed, 17 February 2016, 23:27:18
Posted this on another thread, but I really wish I had a little information when I was trying to add these rings...
After using Hypersphere silencing rings for a full day’s work, I’d change my earlier judgment that it was too much work and that next time I’d just get a Type-S. I love having a dark charcoal case, and the acoustics of the mod are just so refined and satisfying.
And I genuinely admire Hypersphere’s dedication to craft a solution through numerous iterations and make it available to others. It would be great to see this option remain available for a long time. They're cheaper than a Type-S and you get the option of having a black case. And they sound fantastic without changing key travel and only improving feel and sound.
Post by: thatllbeme on Thu, 18 February 2016, 04:36:50
Post by: fanpeople on Thu, 18 February 2016, 04:43:40
I flipped my spacebar a couple of days back... awesome stuff. Even better, though, is flipping the entire bottom row (to make it easier to rest my hands on it), and the Qwer/Asdf rows. So much more comfortable to type on, it's like my fingers are gliding over it.
:blank:
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 18 February 2016, 06:28:28
So today I made a decision to rip open my less than 1 moth old HHLB Pro 2 in black... I modified it a bit and swapped out the Yopre switches with Nova Touch switches. And I have to say for not knowing WTF I was doing I did a bang up JOB!!! All switches were swapped minus the Space bar, because the NT stabilizers did not fit like the Topre ones. Only thing that is a bit off obviously is the key caps themselves. Don't have the same dimension of keys.
Don't hate though! I left my Type S untouched!
Yopre. That's a new one.
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 18 February 2016, 10:45:06
So today I made a decision to rip open my less than 1 moth old HHLB Pro 2 in black... I modified it a bit and swapped out the Yopre switches with Nova Touch switches. And I have to say for not knowing WTF I was doing I did a bang up JOB!!! All switches were swapped minus the Space bar, because the NT stabilizers did not fit like the Topre ones. Only thing that is a bit off obviously is the key caps themselves. Don't have the same dimension of keys.
Don't hate though! I left my Type S untouched!
Yopre. That's a new one.
I figured I could always buy another HHKB in black if need be. This way I can snag Artisans in MX instead of just Topre. Except Bros... I would need to modify the MX stems :(
Post by: Ovrclck on Thu, 18 February 2016, 11:52:21
The tactile feel and sponginess of bottoming out is missing by a touch. Anyone else notice that too?
Post by: robbles on Thu, 18 February 2016, 16:43:17
I flipped my spacebar a couple of days back... awesome stuff. Even better, though, is flipping the entire bottom row (to make it easier to rest my hands on it), and the Qwer/Asdf rows. So much more comfortable to type on, it's like my fingers are gliding over it.
:blank:
BUT WHY!? Flipped spacebar looks bad enough but an entire flipped bottom row...makes it look like you don't know how to type. Unless you have a disability where this makes sense, it just doesn't make sense. I hate seeing people ruin their beautiful boards with flipped keys. :-X
Post by: Corsa1r on Thu, 18 February 2016, 18:03:48
Post by: mobbo on Thu, 18 February 2016, 18:43:29
And **** flipping.
Post by: Vittra on Thu, 18 February 2016, 18:46:32
Although, A+++ on flip hatred.
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:13:42
I love my HHKB. I'm planning on getting some hypersphere rings soon and am considering lubing when it's open, but I'm not sure. Are there any major downsides to living if you do it properly?
straight upgrade if you do it properly.
it's very hard, though. at least, from my experience.
i've tried thick and thin (lube), but even for the sliders i preferred thick lube. however.. too much of it will turn the stroke sluggy, too little will be a waste of time. there's a thin area in-between them, so you have to be consistent and precise to get what you want out of the lube.
the difference (between lubed and un-lubed) is not huge with Topre, but if you can pull it off then you have an extra +10% smoothness.
I am really curious about the Type-S now after having an HHKB for a week. A man doesn't need two HHKB's does he?
considered hypersphere rings? personally i've never tried them, but i've seen nothing but praise..
Post by: appleonama on Thu, 18 February 2016, 21:08:01
Is it just me but I actually prefer the feels of the non-S over the Type-S.
The tactile feel and sponginess of bottoming out is missing by a touch. Anyone else notice that too?
nope type s is better in every way
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:44:03
Post by: mseaworthy on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:48:42
I just got the HHKB type S in the mail! Testing it at work. It is pretty silent minus the space bar, any recommendations on how to silence that bad boy?!
There is a product called Sugru that can silence your spacebar pretty well. It is a putty than can be shaped any way you want and then in 24 hours it dries and sticks to any surface and the result is silicone (https://sugru.com/about).
You put a little piece between sandwich wrap and roll it out thin, and place it on the circular landing pads on each side of the spacebar stem. You've got to let it dry for a day but it will make the spacebar much quieter. You can also try to find very thin self adhesive gripping dots, but they are usually a little too thick so they end up reducing spacebar travel.
Post by: Ovrclck on Fri, 19 February 2016, 10:14:59
Is it just me but I actually prefer the feels of the non-S over the Type-S.
The tactile feel and sponginess of bottoming out is missing by a touch. Anyone else notice that too?
nope type s is better in every way
Hmm. How so? I'm still going to keep my Type-S regardless though. It's growing on me slowly.
Post by: zeta on Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:00:16
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:03:24
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/kGWh5z8.jpg)
Dat Reaper/FN set.
Post by: qazeqaz on Sat, 20 February 2016, 00:52:40
I am really curious about the Type-S now after having an HHKB for a week. A man doesn't need two HHKB's does he?
And **** flipping.
This made me laugh because I thought the same thing. Now I use the S at home and the Pro at work. 2 different colors and 2 different sounds! I love mine and most do. I was hesitant about a plastic board but man I like this a lot.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 20 February 2016, 05:50:08
I flipped my spacebar a couple of days back... awesome stuff. Even better, though, is flipping the entire bottom row (to make it easier to rest my hands on it), and the Qwer/Asdf rows. So much more comfortable to type on, it's like my fingers are gliding over it.
:blank:
BUT WHY!? Flipped spacebar looks bad enough but an entire flipped bottom row...makes it look like you don't know how to type. Unless you have a disability where this makes sense, it just doesn't make sense. I hate seeing people ruin their beautiful boards with flipped keys. :-X
Flipped spacebar is heaven for the thumb!
Post by: DAVYtm on Sat, 20 February 2016, 07:04:01
I flipped my spacebar a couple of days back... awesome stuff. Even better, though, is flipping the entire bottom row (to make it easier to rest my hands on it), and the Qwer/Asdf rows. So much more comfortable to type on, it's like my fingers are gliding over it.
:blank:
BUT WHY!? Flipped spacebar looks bad enough but an entire flipped bottom row...makes it look like you don't know how to type. Unless you have a disability where this makes sense, it just doesn't make sense. I hate seeing people ruin their beautiful boards with flipped keys. :-X
Personally, I think the flipped spacebar feels better AND looks better than unflipped. I hate seeing people ruin their beautiful boards with non-flipped spacebars. :-X
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 20 February 2016, 07:17:23
What does Type-S feel and sound like compared to the regular version?
Sounds muffled and the switch feels not as snappy as a normal one. Still a very good board though.
Post by: TopreFan333 on Sat, 20 February 2016, 16:35:21
And **** flipping.
Totally. It looks disgusting. I have never once thought "god, my thumb HURTS from this space bar edge!"
Post by: Otesanek on Sat, 20 February 2016, 17:42:45
Post by: Bucake on Sat, 20 February 2016, 18:59:27
stronger, wiser, cooler, slicker, tougher.
it has everything its younger brother wants.
but the hhkb still has the same genes. he's good too.
Post by: nubbinator on Sat, 20 February 2016, 19:02:58
RF 87U is his big brother.
stronger, wiser, cooler, slicker, tougher.
it has everything its younger brother wants.
but the hhkb still has the same genes. he's good too.
Nope, huge mistake. Realforce is like becoming an adult. You realize you lost most of your whimsy and joy and now spend your days sitting on a rock hard chair trying to do work to continue to pay for your sad existence.
Post by: Ovrclck on Sat, 20 February 2016, 21:09:08
I sold my HHKB and bought a RF 87u 55g. Did I make a huge mistake? (I really did love my HHKB)
You'll be back ;D
Post by: Otesanek on Sat, 20 February 2016, 21:14:34
Yeah, I think I will too. I wanted to try the 55g RF though. Maybe I will just harvest the domes for that sweet 55g HHKB.I sold my HHKB and bought a RF 87u 55g. Did I make a huge mistake? (I really did love my HHKB)
You'll be back ;D
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 20 February 2016, 21:16:31
Yeah, I think I will too. I wanted to try the 55g RF though. Maybe I will just harvest the domes for that sweet 55g HHKB.I sold my HHKB and bought a RF 87u 55g. Did I make a huge mistake? (I really did love my HHKB)
You'll be back ;D
That is exactly why you bought the 55g RF for. 55g HHKB is heaven.
Post by: Otesanek on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:02:14
Looks like I need to save up another $200 for a white HHKBYeah, I think I will too. I wanted to try the 55g RF though. Maybe I will just harvest the domes for that sweet 55g HHKB.I sold my HHKB and bought a RF 87u 55g. Did I make a huge mistake? (I really did love my HHKB)
You'll be back ;D
That is exactly why you bought the 55g RF for. 55g HHKB is heaven.
Post by: raymogi on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:05:52
Looks like I need to save up another $200 for a white HHKB
It's $200 well spent I assure you.
Post by: Ovrclck on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:18:52
Looks like I need to save up another $200 for a white HHKB
It's $200 well spent I assure you.
Absolutely!
(http://i.imgur.com/NlQQRBF.gif)
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 20 February 2016, 23:36:57
So today I made a decision to rip open my less than 1 moth old HHLB Pro 2 in black... I modified it a bit and swapped out the Yopre switches with Nova Touch switches. And I have to say for not knowing WTF I was doing I did a bang up JOB!!! All switches were swapped minus the Space bar, because the NT stabilizers did not fit like the Topre ones. Only thing that is a bit off obviously is the key caps themselves. Don't have the same dimension of keys.
Don't hate though! I left my Type S untouched!
Yopre. That's a new one.
Thorpe rulez!1!!
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 21 February 2016, 01:28:13
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB.png)
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB2.png)
(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB3.png)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 21 February 2016, 01:29:48
Goofing around with Pixlr (online ghetto Photoshop) and came up with some stuff:that is dope!Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB2.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB3.png)
Post by: Otesanek on Sun, 21 February 2016, 01:37:05
Goofing around with Pixlr (online ghetto Photoshop) and came up with some stuff:A E S T H E T I CShow Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB2.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB3.png)
Post by: Altis on Sun, 21 February 2016, 16:52:03
Like any addiction... you don't realize you're hooked until you try to stop. :-X
Post by: alexjd99 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 16:54:30
Goofing around with Pixlr (online ghetto Photoshop) and came up with some stuff:Really digging the cyan and bottom purple one, they look sick :thumb:Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB2.png)Show Image(http://imageham.com/images/2016/02/21/HHKB3.png)
10/10 would buy posters of this
Post by: illitirit on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:12:34
I was extremely hesitant to lube my board since the first time I did it with EK mech lube 2 i absolutely hated it.
I have a new found appreciation for my HHKB now, its heavenly with the hypersphere + krytox combo.
Small sound clip :
Post by: Vittra on Sun, 21 February 2016, 22:17:22
REALFORCE FOR MY SHORT MEANINGLESS LIFE
Post by: derb2k2 on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:09:17
Just silenced and lubed my board with hypersphere rings and krytox 206/1506.
I was extremely hesitant to lube my board since the first time I did it with EK mech lube 2 i absolutely hated it.
I have a new found appreciation for my HHKB now, its heavenly with the hypersphere + krytox combo.
Wooo! I've got the same mods but still, I love hearing it on this video. Was the krytox thick or thin? Viscosity?
Post by: illitirit on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:12:39
Just silenced and lubed my board with hypersphere rings and krytox 206/1506.
I was extremely hesitant to lube my board since the first time I did it with EK mech lube 2 i absolutely hated it.
I have a new found appreciation for my HHKB now, its heavenly with the hypersphere + krytox combo.
Wooo! I've got the same mods but still, I love hearing it on this video. Was the krytox thick or thin? Viscosity?
was the thick version. Really changed up my 55g HHKB with the hypersphere rings. I wonder how extra thick lube would feel like on this board.
Post by: illitirit on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:15:36
The fc660c stock just feels gross now vs my HHKB, i cant use it lol.
Post by: lootbag on Sun, 21 February 2016, 23:41:49
Didn't like the layout and did not like the feel either.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 22 February 2016, 03:50:32
Just silenced and lubed my board with hypersphere rings and krytox 206/1506.
I was extremely hesitant to lube my board since the first time I did it with EK mech lube 2 i absolutely hated it.
I have a new found appreciation for my HHKB now, its heavenly with the hypersphere + krytox combo.
Small sound clip :
How did you lube yours? Just the sliders? Just the stems? Or both? :)
Post by: Diokhan on Mon, 22 February 2016, 04:12:33
Btw i noticed you have a fc660c, as do i. After modding my HHKB i cant even touch my FC660c anymore, did you have the same feeling?
The fc660c stock just feels gross now vs my HHKB, i cant use it lol.
55g as well?
Post by: illitirit on Mon, 22 February 2016, 06:19:15
Just silenced and lubed my board with hypersphere rings and krytox 206/1506.
I was extremely hesitant to lube my board since the first time I did it with EK mech lube 2 i absolutely hated it.
I have a new found appreciation for my HHKB now, its heavenly with the hypersphere + krytox combo.
Small sound clip :
How did you lube yours? Just the sliders? Just the stems? Or both? :)
lubed only slider housing rails. I took my time to do every slider housing correctly and really got into every nook and cranny
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 22 February 2016, 07:09:02
I think that a thick layer of lube on the stabilizer wire and the plastic connection points of the spacebar stab will also eliminite/dampen the rattle a bit, will try and report. Any experiences about that?
Post by: Ovrclck on Mon, 22 February 2016, 12:49:16
I've found that I can't stop using it except for gaming.
Really? I play BF4 and Dayz with no worries. Granted, I don't need much function key work. Might pickup a Realforce 87U All-45g though.
Post by: CoolGrayAJ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:37:27
(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Post by: Vittra on Mon, 22 February 2016, 13:49:53
Post by: chroness on Mon, 22 February 2016, 14:11:28
As if I couldn't love my HHKB any more... my first keycaps! Cross-post, I know... but I'm just so damn excited!!!Are these dyed? or did you switch out the slider?Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Post by: CoolGrayAJ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 14:27:29
As if I couldn't love my HHKB any more... my first keycaps! Cross-post, I know... but I'm just so damn excited!!!Are these dyed? or did you switch out the slider?Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Dyed :)
Post by: Corsa1r on Mon, 22 February 2016, 16:48:34
Post by: alexjd99 on Mon, 22 February 2016, 17:27:15
As if I couldn't love my HHKB any more... my first keycaps! Cross-post, I know... but I'm just so damn excited!!!Damn, that purple esc is sick. I wouldn't mind a whole board that color :))Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Post by: CoolGrayAJ on Mon, 22 February 2016, 17:45:07
As if I couldn't love my HHKB any more... my first keycaps! Cross-post, I know... but I'm just so damn excited!!!Damn, that purple esc is sick. I wouldn't mind a whole board that color :))Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Here's a closer look at the pinks. They really do give it a pop it didn't originally have <33333333
(https://i.gyazo.com/7968592f0eac7ce0f08501e84ef92f40.png)
BONUS: The quickstrike/prototype Butcher's Boy Nutria and Golemfish Fugu by Eat_the_food
Post by: crickclackman on Tue, 23 February 2016, 10:08:36
As if I couldn't love my HHKB any more... my first keycaps! Cross-post, I know... but I'm just so damn excited!!!Show Image(https://i.gyazo.com/307446dede3f1c431566fe175b2a592f.jpg)
Great job!
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 23 February 2016, 11:12:54
I owned an FC660C for 1 week and sold it haha.
Didn't like the layout and did not like the feel either.
I'm actually enjoying the plate-mountedness of the FC66C. I had the RF55g but couldn't really enjoy it for long since I sold it.
I would say that the FC660C is a damn good topre board but the layout doesn't work well enough for me to be my driver, which is what I wanted due to its arrow cluster. I will be getting a RF45g uniform soon.
HHKB reigns supreme, no doubt!!
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 23 February 2016, 12:04:12
@derb2k2: I had a similar experience with the FC660C. I enjoyed the solidity, but I gave it away because of the layout and form factor. I enjoy 60% and TKL, but I haven't been able to warm up to any board in the twilight zone between 60% and TKL.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 23 February 2016, 14:14:41
But my halfshell came in! My first Topre artisan.
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Post by: Diokhan on Tue, 23 February 2016, 15:16:01
Crosspost from https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79852Looking good!
But my halfshell came in! My first Topre artisan.
(Attachment Link)
Can't wait for mine to come in
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 23 February 2016, 15:40:02
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 23 February 2016, 18:56:15
Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 23 February 2016, 18:59:02
Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
I might. I have a sleeve coming for mine, so I may just carry it back and forth.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:00:54
No sleeve will suffice! just get another hhkb mang!Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
I might. I have a sleeve coming for mine, so I may just carry it back and forth.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:01:58
No sleeve will suffice! just get another hhkb mang!Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
I might. I have a sleeve coming for mine, so I may just carry it back and forth.
My keyboard fund is currently REKT, so a second one will have to wait. Especially if I win more Bros when the Reaper/Gamer invoices go out.
Post by: bocahgundul on Tue, 23 February 2016, 19:11:55
Post by: illitirit on Tue, 23 February 2016, 23:05:05
I guess as long as the slider travel surface is done with proper lube, there should not be any major difference between lubing the slider rails or slider housings. Thanks for the info, can't wait to do it myself too.
I think that a thick layer of lube on the stabilizer wire and the plastic connection points of the spacebar stab will also eliminite/dampen the rattle a bit, will try and report. Any experiences about that?
I think the krytox lube i used 105 / 1506 mixture is a bit too thin for the stabilizers even though i purchased the thick version. When I lubed my board I actually took apart all the stabilized keys and removed whatever stock lube comes from the factory. I then put a thin layer over all contact points with the krytox mixture. The lube in my opinion is a TAD runny for stabilzers but still works perfectly fine.
I was getting a bit of spacebar rattle and my enter key i could hear ringing. The lube at least alleviated that annoyance, but I cant help in my head think that an extra thick lube would feel better on the stabilizers.
I think the thick version is perfect for alpha keys.
Post by: Crossfire on Wed, 24 February 2016, 00:31:26
I had a rattly spacebar on my type-s and I mean it rattled a lot and it was annoyingly loud. I've applied some gpl205 with a brush, quite a thick layer and spread it out between contacts of stab wire and the plastic places. Now, the spacebar is firm, no noise, not even moving when tapped on the bar - perfect. I've applied a very thin layer on the rails of the switches and it's even more smoother and the thock is evident but really silent, so in the office it can't bother the coworkers...but the gorgeus feel is there, oh man :)
For me, the board is now perfect, I guess those little problems with stabs shouldn't be there at all when coming out of the factory...stock grease vs. krytox...can't believe the difference! So yeah, lubed board is really that better! :thumb:
Post by: waone567 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 12:07:46
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 24 February 2016, 14:48:51
No sleeve will suffice! just get another hhkb mang!Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
I might. I have a sleeve coming for mine, so I may just carry it back and forth.
@whlmtonjr I hope that you'll lose the raffle so you could buy another hhkb
Brought mine to work today. Today has been a good day.Get anothre hhkb man!
Demik?? Is that you? :))
@Hypersphere yep. To be honest though, with your rings and medium krytox lube, typing on the FC660 is one of the best typing experiences I've ever had. Right up there with HHKB. I will be doing the same for my incoming RF45g soon so I'm looking forward to it.
Post by: Fullcream on Wed, 24 February 2016, 19:31:14
All I had to do was silence it, lubricate the spacebar stabilizers because it rattled quite a bit and add pbt spacebar. Here is a video I made if you want to hear it:
HHKB
Post by: Altis on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:29:13
Hello, not sure if anyone remembers but I created a bit of a bamboozle a few pages back when telling everyone my initial experience with the hhkb type S. The reactions were very warranted and I would like to update people on my new opinion of the HHKB. My new non type S arrived a while ago and I have concluded that the hhkb IS scratchy, as others have also said before, however it does not matter and I somehow really like it's scratchiness. I now prefer it to plate mounted Topre. It has a nice bouncy feeling, like the upstroke is stronger. I also like the sound. Besides all that it does have some superior feeling to it that I can't quite describe. It just seems as others have described: "fun".
That's pretty much how I described it in my HHKB vs Realforce 87U review in the Reviews section.
The 87U is smoother and more consistent sounding, as well as more quiet.
However, the HHKB has more character and is simply more fun to use. The exception is when I tire of the function layout for using the nav keys as I don't think that it's set up efficiently.
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 24 February 2016, 21:31:45
Post by: Crossfire on Thu, 25 February 2016, 00:28:33
Hello, not sure if anyone remembers but I created a bit of a bamboozle a few pages back when telling everyone my initial experience with the hhkb type S. The reactions were very warranted and I would like to update people on my new opinion of the HHKB. My new non type S arrived a while ago and I have concluded that the hhkb IS scratchy, as others have also said before, however it does not matter and I somehow really like it's scratchiness. I now prefer it to plate mounted Topre. It has a nice bouncy feeling, like the upstroke is stronger. I also like the sound. Besides all that it does have some superior feeling to it that I can't quite describe. It just seems as others have described: "fun".Lubing the switch rails with a thin layer makes it so much smoother...no scratchiness whatsover.
All I had to do was silence it, lubricate the spacebar stabilizers because it rattled quite a bit and add pbt spacebar. Here is a video I made if you want to hear it:
HHKB
+1 on lubing the stabs with krytox, I can't believe the difference too. :thumb:
Post by: Oxid on Thu, 25 February 2016, 01:01:05
Post by: illitirit on Thu, 25 February 2016, 02:59:07
I need to get in on this lubing. I also need to hypersphere the HHKB, i'd love to see how those two feel together, because they sound beautiful (in the lubed/sphered HHKB typing test videos i've seen)
I was pretty hesitant to mod my stock HHKB since I thought it was so perfect as is. Boy was I wrong. Your missing out if you haven't experienced hypersphere + lube, it completely changes the board for the better. Its a night and day difference. My HHKB is thocking awesome now.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 25 February 2016, 03:48:34
Lubing the housing rails may solve the problem although it feels a bit mushy under my fingers when i lubed it once
That's why i prefer silenced NT over HHKB, it feels smoother, well firmly
I don't get why everyone believe HHKB is perfect or superior Topre keyboard, its being far from the best feeling
I have both NT and HHKB silenced, lubed, i tend to prefer NT for having the most pleasant typing feeling and TKL layout
HHKB is superior for having better ergonomic shape, prettier aesthetic, disturbing but addicting layout
Post by: Crossfire on Thu, 25 February 2016, 04:42:19
That's obvious HHKB even silenced feels scratchy, i remember it did bother me
Lubing the housing rails may solve the problem although it feels a bit mushy under my fingers when i lubed it once
That's why i prefer silenced NT over HHKB, it feels smoother, well firmly
I don't get why everyone believe HHKB is perfect or superior Topre keyboard, its being far from the best feeling
I have both NT and HHKB silenced, lubed, i tend to prefer NT for having the most pleasant typing feeling and TKL layout
HHKB is superior for having better ergonomic shape, prettier aesthetic, disturbing but addicting layout
Blasphemy to write that in a hhkb love thread :) haha
Post by: Fullcream on Thu, 25 February 2016, 06:43:07
That's obvious HHKB even silenced feels scratchy, i remember it did bother me
Lubing the housing rails may solve the problem although it feels a bit mushy under my fingers when i lubed it once
That's why i prefer silenced NT over HHKB, it feels smoother, well firmly
I don't get why everyone believe HHKB is perfect or superior Topre keyboard, its being far from the best feeling
I have both NT and HHKB silenced, lubed, i tend to prefer NT for having the most pleasant typing feeling and TKL layout
HHKB is superior for having better ergonomic shape, prettier aesthetic, disturbing but addicting layout
I understand exactly what you mean. Silenced NT is extremely smooth and consistent. And then after paying for a hhkb and then typing on it.. really makes you wonder about people.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 25 February 2016, 07:22:45
It looks more appealing
Don't get me wrong i love aswell my HHKB but keyboard is keyboard, the main factor would be a typing feeling
In this regard, NT feels like you said more consistent on my fingers
But not many people have both silenced keyboards, i only speak about silent mod
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 25 February 2016, 07:35:52
That's because HHKB is more hyped than NT/RFWhat keycaps are you using on your novatouch?
It looks more appealing
Don't get me wrong i love aswell my HHKB but keyboard is keyboard, the main factor would be a typing feeling
In this regard, NT feels like you said more consistent on my fingers
But not many people have both silenced keyboards, i only speak about silent mod
Post by: ajx on Thu, 25 February 2016, 07:38:03
I really want to try Ducky blank in OEM profile, its considered as the best for NT
Post by: robbles on Thu, 25 February 2016, 11:43:10
Post by: zslane on Thu, 25 February 2016, 15:16:54
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 25 February 2016, 15:33:20
Has anyone ever tried putting Topre HiPro keycaps onto an HHKB? I'm guessing they don't really fit properly onto standard Topre switch housings?
I think livingspeedbump did, but I may be mistaken. It would be on keychatter if so.
EDIT: NVM, he did it for a Realforce. I swear someone on here did though.
Post by: byker on Thu, 25 February 2016, 16:41:11
(http://i.imgur.com/hYErawq.jpg)
Post by: DAVYtm on Thu, 25 February 2016, 16:51:49
I put old school topre hipros on my hhkb and it worked fine, was just a tad wigglyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hYErawq.jpg)
This is a great look, understated and classy
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 25 February 2016, 21:50:08
Post by: FLFisherman on Thu, 25 February 2016, 21:54:06
I just did some mods to my HHKB Type -S! Thoughts?
Damn you have a lot of V2s.
Also, your spacebar is upside-down.
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 25 February 2016, 21:58:07
I just did some mods to my HHKB Type -S! Thoughts?
Damn you have a lot of V2s.
Also, your spacebar is upside-down.
Don't hate on me bro! I just but the Type S innards into the black case. Now my white case has Nova Touch switches. And the space bar is comfy!
Post by: alexjd99 on Thu, 25 February 2016, 22:00:51
I just did some mods to my HHKB Type -S! Thoughts?My thoughts- You should give me that Noxious BBV2 ;)
Board looks great though! :thumb:
Post by: qazeqaz on Thu, 25 February 2016, 22:08:39
I just did some mods to my HHKB Type -S! Thoughts?My thoughts- You should give me that Noxious BBV2 ;)
Board looks great though! :thumb:
The Nox seems pretty hot lately! I still need so many Bros :(
Post by: robbles on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:22:07
Post by: DAVYtm on Fri, 26 February 2016, 17:31:37
I just did some mods to my HHKB Type -S! Thoughts?My thoughts- You should give me that Noxious BBV2 ;)
Board looks great though! :thumb:
The Nox seems pretty hot lately! I still need so many Bros :(
Looking good man! I've always loved the white printed on black case. Nice Bros as well ;)
Post by: alexjd99 on Fri, 26 February 2016, 18:31:06
Anyone that has experience with swapping the stems- Do the Novatouch stems feel any different? I might be crazy, be I may recall some people saying that they're scratchier than the stock ones. If not though, this may be a must buy for me :p
Post by: robbles on Fri, 26 February 2016, 20:14:21
So I noticed on R/mk there was a post that Cooler Master EU has the Novatouch sliders for sale (an entire set). https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/47ph1g/hell_freezes_over_cooler_master_eu_offers_topre/
Anyone that has experience with swapping the stems- Do the Novatouch stems feel any different? I might be crazy, be I may recall some people saying that they're scratchier than the stock ones. If not though, this may be a must buy for me :p
Works fine but not the larger keys if I remember correctly? Something about the stabs. Curious about the answer myself.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Fri, 26 February 2016, 21:51:02
I put old school topre hipros on my hhkb and it worked fine, was just a tad wigglyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hYErawq.jpg)
Much want. That looks so good with those caps.
Post by: byker on Sat, 27 February 2016, 00:00:45
I put old school topre hipros on my hhkb and it worked fine, was just a tad wigglyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/hYErawq.jpg)
Much want. That looks so good with those caps.
Thanks, unfortunately I ended up selling the keyboard they came on, with the caps :(
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 27 February 2016, 01:30:57
The stabs is fine for realforce but not with hhkb. Cause we need to drill the plastic case so that the novatouch stabs can fit inside hhkb.So I noticed on R/mk there was a post that Cooler Master EU has the Novatouch sliders for sale (an entire set). https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/47ph1g/hell_freezes_over_cooler_master_eu_offers_topre/
Anyone that has experience with swapping the stems- Do the Novatouch stems feel any different? I might be crazy, be I may recall some people saying that they're scratchier than the stock ones. If not though, this may be a must buy for me :p
Works fine but not the larger keys if I remember correctly? Something about the stabs. Curious about the answer myself.
It works with realforce cause the housing stems are interchangeable :thumb:
Post by: ajx on Mon, 29 February 2016, 05:09:01
It feels more smooth, quieter, less rattle but in the opposite, its abit mushy
The damn thing, that's the ****ing inconsistence i ve got with HHKB, not all keys sound similar in term of feeling, i know why, some keys have more frictions than others although i silenced and lubbed
It might be caused by the silder itself, there is nothing i can do
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 29 February 2016, 06:16:53
Also lubbed the rail housing with Kritox, i must admit, feeling is not bad eitherThat's what you get for deflorating a virgin hhkb
It feels more smooth, quieter, less rattle but in the opposite, its abit mushy
The damn thing, that's the ****ing inconsistence i ve got with HHKB, not all keys sound similar in term of feeling, i know why, some keys have more frictions than others although i silenced and lubbed
It might be caused by the silder itself, there is nothing i can do
Post by: derb2k2 on Mon, 29 February 2016, 23:53:15
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/ve5wm.jpg)
Post by: 1swt2gs on Tue, 01 March 2016, 00:26:40
dat novatouch harvest doe! Ducky PBT with PBT spacebar :thumb:Show Image(http://oi64.tinypic.com/ve5wm.jpg)
I love the positioning of the raven!
Post by: derb2k2 on Tue, 01 March 2016, 06:32:38
I love the positioning of the raven!
ty, ty. Since I use underscore a lot, I just thought to put it there (took it off now, ofcourse). Camera on the surface sucks but had to use it since phone was dead. :(
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 01 March 2016, 06:34:09
this feeling...
is enjoyable....
what have I turned into...
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 01 March 2016, 06:35:22
why...
this feeling...
is enjoyable....
what have I turned into...
a noob
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 02 March 2016, 11:18:48
never noticed it before because i've always used the stands, but i don't think i'll ever go back to using them again. HEHE
Post by: ajx on Wed, 02 March 2016, 12:40:18
Those feet that elevates the height of keyboard?
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 02 March 2016, 13:18:41
if they are retracted, somehow the keyboard itself absorbs the shock of the presses. but if they are collapsed, i hear a loud low thump as if i just bash the keyboard against my desk.
it's actually a really big difference. who would've thought!
Post by: ajx on Wed, 02 March 2016, 14:20:24
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 03 March 2016, 08:42:35
i had them up because i wasn't using a wrist-rest, and i had my wrists resting on my desk. glad i finally tried out a wrist-rest because i was messing up my wrists with that awkward position.
the board is a lot nicer with its feet down :D
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 12:19:14
So I noticed on R/mk there was a post that Cooler Master EU has the Novatouch sliders for sale (an entire set). https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/47ph1g/hell_freezes_over_cooler_master_eu_offers_topre/
Anyone that has experience with swapping the stems- Do the Novatouch stems feel any different? I might be crazy, be I may recall some people saying that they're scratchier than the stock ones. If not though, this may be a must buy for me :p
Oh no. I thought I had finally curbed my keyboard spending after landing on a 55g Type-S and 55g 23U combo. I considered harvesting a Novatouch but decided it wouldn't be worth the money/effort, but being able to straight up buy a set of sliders for a reasonable price means it'll be really difficult to resist the call of the vast array of cherry keycap sets. Someone might as well finish my wallet off and actually get a good looking metal HHKB case off the ground.
Post by: ajx on Thu, 03 March 2016, 13:52:43
they're not really fragile, despite how they look. :-)I came back on HHKB since i lubed it
i had them up because i wasn't using a wrist-rest, and i had my wrists resting on my desk. glad i finally tried out a wrist-rest because i was messing up my wrists with that awkward position.
the board is a lot nicer with its feet down :D
I prefer the ergonomic and the shape of HHKB, cant really type on NT because its flat although it feels nicer on my hands (lubed HHKB feels really good too)
Both are very pleasants keyboard but i will keep my HHKB (Hasu, silenced, lubed, PBT spacebar), almost the perfect keyboard now, i am lucky one ;D
Post by: derb2k2 on Thu, 03 March 2016, 14:03:24
So I noticed on R/mk there was a post that Cooler Master EU has the Novatouch sliders for sale (an entire set). https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/47ph1g/hell_freezes_over_cooler_master_eu_offers_topre/
Anyone that has experience with swapping the stems- Do the Novatouch stems feel any different? I might be crazy, be I may recall some people saying that they're scratchier than the stock ones. If not though, this may be a must buy for me :p
Oh no. I thought I had finally curbed my keyboard spending after landing on a 55g Type-S and 55g 23U combo. I considered harvesting a Novatouch but decided it wouldn't be worth the money/effort, but being able to straight up buy a set of sliders for a reasonable price means it'll be really difficult to resist the call of the vast array of cherry keycap sets. Someone might as well finish my wallet off and actually get a good looking metal HHKB case off the ground.
be on the lookout for anyone selling the barebones for a bit less than market price for normal NT. I purchased one at 135 and have already harvested some of the sliders for my HHKB (few posts above). To me, it's definitely worth it to be able to place other keycap sets although some mods give trouble.
Also, with the barebones you can also harvest the conical springs so I might do that for another board.
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 08 March 2016, 17:08:26
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1591/25258287869_4c2cd7c527_k.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1497/25533173271_2390a25fd0_k.jpg)
Post by: FLFisherman on Tue, 08 March 2016, 17:10:01
Back at it with blanks.Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1591/25258287869_4c2cd7c527_k.jpg)Show Image(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1497/25533173271_2390a25fd0_k.jpg)
Fantastic photos once again. And that Mummy, oooooo, it's good.
Post by: ajx on Tue, 08 March 2016, 17:52:13
Like Steve Jobs quoted ''less is more''
No fancy color, no Artisan stufss, HHKB has to be simple and minimalist!
Post by: Crossfire on Wed, 09 March 2016, 02:10:37
Mine its dark grey blank, i dont get it why people want keycap lubby on such minimalist keyboardTo each their own, bro.
Like Steve Jobs quoted ''less is more''
No fancy color, no Artisan stufss, HHKB has to be simple and minimalist!
Tastes are evolving, sometimes keep it simple, sometimes splash some color on it...why the fk not :)
Post by: ajx on Wed, 09 March 2016, 03:54:18
I wont pervert the true spirit of HHKB (from what i ve read on HHKB creator interview)
Post by: Crossfire on Wed, 09 March 2016, 05:42:08
(http://i.imgur.com/8yztqjw.jpg?1)
Post by: FLFisherman on Wed, 09 March 2016, 08:13:34
I'm totally with you on that one....loving my board so much that I deliberately type the report papers longer than necessary :)I'm not quite at the phase where I intentionally type longer reporters, but it does feel great typing on it.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8yztqjw.jpg?1)
Post by: Crossfire on Wed, 09 March 2016, 08:28:43
Still can't believe how visualy pleasing are these little boards...so simple, yet so thought out!
Post by: the_marsbar on Wed, 23 March 2016, 10:43:47
I bought a Type-S in the middle of February. Shortly after I could not use my laptop at work without the keyboard, so I've been bringing it back and forth with me every day.
I've since then bought a blank set of keys together with the PFU bag, and the red/blue Esc/Ctrl caps (haven't received it yet).
I've read somewhere (sorry, can't find the link/post) that there are cream caps as well as the white/grey ones. Is that true? Or are there only two colorways, black and white/grey?
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 24 March 2016, 05:37:04
OK, so I just finished reading through most of this thread.
I bought a Type-S in the middle of February. Shortly after I could not use my laptop at work without the keyboard, so I've been bringing it back and forth with me every day.
I've since then bought a blank set of keys together with the PFU bag, and the red/blue Esc/Ctrl caps (haven't received it yet).
I've read somewhere (sorry, can't find the link/post) that there are cream caps as well as the white/grey ones. Is that true? Or are there only two colorways, black and white/grey?
Black (printed/blank) and white (printed/blank) were the only HHKB sets made.
RealForce sets (not that you can find any these days) will sort of fit, if you don't mind the wrong profile key on, er, right Shift I think.
Oh and Ducky with their new RealForce apparently has white white keycaps that might be whiter than the perhaps slightly off-white of the HHKB's natural keycaps, which would probably have the same fit on an HHKB as the RealForce sets.
Post by: AverageHybrid on Fri, 25 March 2016, 11:45:16
My current 2 Topre boards.
Post by: robbles on Fri, 25 March 2016, 17:37:57
Looking proper. Though, come to think of it, I never see the black keycaps in the white cases. Could look cool!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LfN4LuX.jpg)
My current 2 Topre boards.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 26 March 2016, 04:51:00
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LfN4LuX.jpg)
My current 2 Topre boards.
That's so sweet - they have matching Esc and Control :)
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 26 March 2016, 06:17:17
bootyfulShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/LfN4LuX.jpg)
My current 2 Topre boards.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 26 March 2016, 08:00:34
(http://i.imgur.com/44QimZ1.jpg)
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 27 March 2016, 20:00:19
It's been a while I've been on GH due to deadlines etc. So time to remind people if they've forgot about it: Topre is love, join the church of Topre. :PShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/44QimZ1.jpg)
This is HHKB love thread :p
Post by: jerue on Mon, 28 March 2016, 07:00:58
Send help pls
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 March 2016, 07:02:52
I've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.HHKB BEST TOPER sell your digi and get an hhkb :p
Send help pls
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 28 March 2016, 07:11:00
I've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
Post by: jerue on Mon, 28 March 2016, 07:53:49
I've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 28 March 2016, 07:55:49
I've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 March 2016, 08:37:00
side keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 28 March 2016, 08:39:46
side keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Exactly, Mr. Seal. And we all know which one is the side keyboard.
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:18:03
I'm not a seal plsside keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Exactly, Mr. Seal. And we all know which one is the side keyboard.
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:23:50
I'm not a seal plsside keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Exactly, Mr. Seal. And we all know which one is the side keyboard.
(http://i.imgur.com/zBobCpP.png)
Long live the HHKB!
Post by: bocahgundul on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:24:58
I've made a mistakes fuk meI'm not a seal plsside keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Exactly, Mr. Seal. And we all know which one is the side keyboard.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBobCpP.png)
Long live the HHKB!
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:30:41
I've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Same here. HHKB at work, TKL at home. It's best for both of them this way.. :P
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:39:28
Post by: FLFisherman on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:40:26
Need monies for second HHKB. Typing on MX Blues at work. :'(
Best solution: buy a carrying case and take it to and from work. Your HHKB wants to be used.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 28 March 2016, 09:41:11
Need monies for second HHKB. Typing on MX Blues at work. :'(
Best solution: buy a carrying case and take it to and from work. Your HHKB wants to be used.
Waiting on mine to be made by switchnollie and then I will do that.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 March 2016, 04:58:07
I've made a mistakes fuk meI'm not a seal plsside keyboards just like side chickI've started dreaming about this keyboard....again.Maybe your dreams are telling you something. You don't need help, you need an HHKB.
Send help pls
but how do I break the news to my TKL boards? they are the jealous type... :rolleyes:
Don't ever let them know about each other. HHKB at work, TKL at home. Keep your work and personal life separate. :thumb:
Exactly, Mr. Seal. And we all know which one is the side keyboard.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zBobCpP.png)
Long live the HHKB!
That would be cruelty to a seal.
Post by: Vittra on Sat, 02 April 2016, 17:28:59
...and today I picked it up. Seems I own a HHKB again. Oops.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 April 2016, 23:11:03
There's been one available locally for a week now...
...and today I picked it up. Seems I own a HHKB again. Oops.
Welcome back into the fold.
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Sat, 02 April 2016, 23:32:01
Of course the clutch on my jeep would go out today, of all days. There goes $475+++... :confused:
Soon HHKB... soon... :-*
Post by: Altis on Sun, 03 April 2016, 11:00:45
The thing is that the spacebar makes some nasty spring noise every few presses that I can't seem to make go away. I'm not really sure what to do about it.
At least the G, H, T keys don't make such an obnoxious *CLACK* like my black HHKB, although the two keyboards sound different overall.
All my black-keyed Topre boards have a higher pitch upstroke than the white-keyed counterparts.
Post by: AverageHybrid on Mon, 04 April 2016, 08:27:21
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
Post by: raymogi on Mon, 04 April 2016, 09:01:50
Man after getting a stock black HHKB, I got curious and wanted to try the Type-S as I was somehow annoyed by the upstroke clack of the board so I also went a head with the Type-S. Don't know why but the first thing I did was to swap up their sliders so I have a black Type-S and my white HHKB has the stock sliders.
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
Keep both so you can enjoy the different sound they make. I have all variation of 45g and 55g Topre cause I can't decide as well :D
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Mon, 04 April 2016, 13:07:29
Man after getting a stock black HHKB, I got curious and wanted to try the Type-S as I was somehow annoyed by the upstroke clack of the board so I also went a head with the Type-S. Don't know why but the first thing I did was to swap up their sliders so I have a black Type-S and my white HHKB has the stock sliders.
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
This is something I have been debating for awhile. I don't have either board at the moment, and I'm leaning toward the stock board as I'm used to the higher volume of buckling springs.
What are you thoughts on the feel of the two boards? Does the type-S feel much different than the stock HHKB or is the sound the only change?
Post by: sacramentoplaya on Mon, 04 April 2016, 16:24:53
(http://i.imgur.com/NLH3kYU.jpg)
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Tue, 05 April 2016, 00:09:09
first hydrodipped HHKB?
Post by: vegs on Tue, 05 April 2016, 04:37:48
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/e3/07/f0e307874fabc094f9c863e18a427723.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3WV0lNr.jpg)
first hydrodipped HHKB?
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 05 April 2016, 08:09:04
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3WV0lNr.jpg)
first hydrodipped HHKB?
Mmmm nice!
Post by: AverageHybrid on Tue, 05 April 2016, 08:30:01
Man after getting a stock black HHKB, I got curious and wanted to try the Type-S as I was somehow annoyed by the upstroke clack of the board so I also went a head with the Type-S. Don't know why but the first thing I did was to swap up their sliders so I have a black Type-S and my white HHKB has the stock sliders.
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
This is something I have been debating for awhile. I don't have either board at the moment, and I'm leaning toward the stock board as I'm used to the higher volume of buckling springs.
What are you thoughts on the feel of the two boards? Does the type-S feel much different than the stock HHKB or is the sound the only change?
In terms of feel wise it shouldn't have any difference since the base of the slider of the Type-S is shaved off a lil bit to make space for the plastic/rubber landing pad which means there's no reduction in key travel. However with my usage I feel like the HHKB Type-S does feel less tactile, or just FEELS different. After trying them both having headphones on I really couldn't tell the difference and the only difference is indeed the sound.
Post by: sacramentoplaya on Tue, 05 April 2016, 10:49:19
How did you do this? Just gorgeous, man.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3WV0lNr.jpg)
first hydrodipped HHKB?
Post by: thatsmrdoctortoyou on Tue, 05 April 2016, 12:31:58
Man after getting a stock black HHKB, I got curious and wanted to try the Type-S as I was somehow annoyed by the upstroke clack of the board so I also went a head with the Type-S. Don't know why but the first thing I did was to swap up their sliders so I have a black Type-S and my white HHKB has the stock sliders.
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
This is something I have been debating for awhile. I don't have either board at the moment, and I'm leaning toward the stock board as I'm used to the higher volume of buckling springs.
What are you thoughts on the feel of the two boards? Does the type-S feel much different than the stock HHKB or is the sound the only change?
In terms of feel wise it shouldn't have any difference since the base of the slider of the Type-S is shaved off a lil bit to make space for the plastic/rubber landing pad which means there's no reduction in key travel. However with my usage I feel like the HHKB Type-S does feel less tactile, or just FEELS different. After trying them both having headphones on I really couldn't tell the difference and the only difference is indeed the sound.
Good to know, thanks for the information!
Post by: jerue on Tue, 05 April 2016, 13:37:16
pop...clank!.... pop!
Post by: the_marsbar on Tue, 05 April 2016, 14:26:26
I can't decide whether I like the black HHKB Pro 2 more than the Type-S. When I'm at work I really enjoy just the thock of the Type-S. At first I had to get used to the black board at home, but I think it's starting to grow on me.
I must admit I maybe went a bit overboard with two such expensive keyboards over the course of a little less than two months (kickstarted when I saw a video of George Hotz' talking about his self-driving car in December).
Post by: grav3serker on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:30:57
Recently received my second HHKB Pro 2 (this time a black one, with blank keys). I also have a PFU carry bag for each of the boards, PFU spare Ctrl + Esc keys in red/blue.2 in 2 months? That's not bad at all haha. I got 2 HHKBs within a week :thumb:
I can't decide whether I like the black HHKB Pro 2 more than the Type-S. When I'm at work I really enjoy just the thock of the Type-S. At first I had to get used to the black board at home, but I think it's starting to grow on me.
I must admit I maybe went a bit overboard with two such expensive keyboards over the course of a little less than two months (kickstarted when I saw a video of George Hotz' talking about his self-driving car in December).
Post by: sacramentoplaya on Tue, 05 April 2016, 15:37:55
You, sir, have common sense, a high IQ, and probably seriously packin'.Recently received my second HHKB Pro 2 (this time a black one, with blank keys). I also have a PFU carry bag for each of the boards, PFU spare Ctrl + Esc keys in red/blue.2 in 2 months? That's not bad at all haha. I got 2 HHKBs within a week :thumb:
I can't decide whether I like the black HHKB Pro 2 more than the Type-S. When I'm at work I really enjoy just the thock of the Type-S. At first I had to get used to the black board at home, but I think it's starting to grow on me.
I must admit I maybe went a bit overboard with two such expensive keyboards over the course of a little less than two months (kickstarted when I saw a video of George Hotz' talking about his self-driving car in December).
Post by: grav3serker on Tue, 05 April 2016, 16:04:57
Haha. The only reason I have two is because I bought one, fell in love and sold all of my MX and Alps boards and bought a second.You, sir, have common sense, a high IQ, and probably seriously packin'.Recently received my second HHKB Pro 2 (this time a black one, with blank keys). I also have a PFU carry bag for each of the boards, PFU spare Ctrl + Esc keys in red/blue.2 in 2 months? That's not bad at all haha. I got 2 HHKBs within a week :thumb:
I can't decide whether I like the black HHKB Pro 2 more than the Type-S. When I'm at work I really enjoy just the thock of the Type-S. At first I had to get used to the black board at home, but I think it's starting to grow on me.
I must admit I maybe went a bit overboard with two such expensive keyboards over the course of a little less than two months (kickstarted when I saw a video of George Hotz' talking about his self-driving car in December).
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 06 April 2016, 06:13:58
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3WV0lNr.jpg)
first hydrodipped HHKB?
Not sure about this, but at least it's a black and white design :)
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Wed, 06 April 2016, 17:24:36
To liking it a bit more swapping it out with my RF87U on occasion
To preferring it outright over my RF 87U
To selling my RF 87U
To now looking at buying a SECOND HHKB
Yep....the hype is real and it's taken hold of me.
Post by: sacramentoplaya on Wed, 06 April 2016, 18:38:26
Went from being iffy about the HHKB layout....Take that puppy to your local Japantown, and girls will be hanging off of you. Show up with two, and you'll be fighting them off.
To liking it a bit more swapping it out with my RF87U on occasion
To preferring it outright over my RF 87U
To selling my RF 87U
To now looking at buying a SECOND HHKB
Yep....the hype is real and it's taken hold of me.
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Wed, 06 April 2016, 18:50:47
Went from being iffy about the HHKB layout....Take that puppy to your local Japantown, and girls will be hanging off of you. Show up with two, and you'll be fighting them off.
To liking it a bit more swapping it out with my RF87U on occasion
To preferring it outright over my RF 87U
To selling my RF 87U
To now looking at buying a SECOND HHKB
Yep....the hype is real and it's taken hold of me.
Not sure my wife would appreciate that :p lol
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 06 April 2016, 20:11:42
Man after getting a stock black HHKB, I got curious and wanted to try the Type-S as I was somehow annoyed by the upstroke clack of the board so I also went a head with the Type-S. Don't know why but the first thing I did was to swap up their sliders so I have a black Type-S and my white HHKB has the stock sliders.
The thing right now is I can't decide which one I want to keep, at first I got annoyed with the clacks and liked the Type-S for the silent thocky sound, going back to the stock HHKB right now the Type-S feels "dead" because of the lack of upstroke clack and comparing those two the HHKB is much more enjoyable to type on since it makes so much more plastic clack sounds. I don't know whether I should sell my Type-S or just keep it in case my opinion of the stock HHKB changes again.
This is something I have been debating for awhile. I don't have either board at the moment, and I'm leaning toward the stock board as I'm used to the higher volume of buckling springs.
What are you thoughts on the feel of the two boards? Does the type-S feel much different than the stock HHKB or is the sound the only change?
In terms of feel wise it shouldn't have any difference since the base of the slider of the Type-S is shaved off a lil bit to make space for the plastic/rubber landing pad which means there's no reduction in key travel. However with my usage I feel like the HHKB Type-S does feel less tactile, or just FEELS different. After trying them both having headphones on I really couldn't tell the difference and the only difference is indeed the sound.
Ummm no
The type S stem is not shaved. I think u mean the realforce silent stem
Because purple realforce stem is shaved
Post by: alexjd99 on Sat, 16 April 2016, 20:31:58
This feels so blasphemous, but so right at the same time. Guess I need another that's unsilenced?
Post by: biocalves on Sat, 16 April 2016, 21:36:29
I'm definitely having some trouble adjusting to the layout but already liking the feel. Seller did mention that this was an almost new board and feels a bit "mushier" than his old pro 1 which feels crisp.
Does anyone else feel that way? I'm wondering how the springs will change over time if at all.
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Post by: breaker9691 on Sun, 17 April 2016, 03:48:50
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:08:21
Just threw some Hypersphere rings on my black Pro 2
This feels so blasphemous, but so right at the same time. Guess I need another that's unsilenced?
Yes.
Just got my very first topre in the form of this HHKB Pro 2. I bought this one used from a redditor who swapped out the caps from a black pro 1 onto this board.
I'm definitely having some trouble adjusting to the layout but already liking the feel. Seller did mention that this was an almost new board and feels a bit "mushier" than his old pro 1 which feels crisp.
Does anyone else feel that way? I'm wondering how the springs will change over time if at all.
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It's no so much the springs that will change, but the rubber in the domes might harden. However the degree to which they may harden varies considerably. Most people report little or no change in feel over several years. However someone recently reported a few years old HHKB that felt significantly different to their other HHKB.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:49:55
It's no so much the springs that will change, but the rubber in the domes might harden. However the degree to which they may harden varies considerably. Most people report little or no change in feel over several years. However someone recently reported a few years old HHKB that felt significantly different to their other HHKB.
Exactly. My first black HHKB was already stiff when I got it unwrapped. I was like "Topre buttersmooth? Nahh.. overrated".
But then I got my WHITE HHKB and my 87UB 55g and those ARE buttersmooth.
Post by: biocalves on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:27:46
I'm still having trouble adjusting to the control being where the caps was as well as the FN key as the smallest I have had was a TKL until the Pro 2.
I hope this HHKB doesn't ruin my love for other MX switches as I still have so much to try.
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 18 April 2016, 11:44:15
Well, I spent the weekend adjusting to the HHKB layout and now that I'm at work on my MX Blacks and I find myself typing "\" instead of "backspace" and I'm not enjoying the feel of the stiff linear as much...
I'm still having trouble adjusting to the control being where the caps was as well as the FN key as the smallest I have had was a TKL until the Pro 2.
I hope this HHKB doesn't ruin my love for other MX switches as I still have so much to try.
Topre grows on you man... there is no way back. Be prepared! Control / FN will get in your muscle memory soon enough.
TOPRE IS LOVE
Post by: Ovrclck on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:07:59
Well, I spent the weekend adjusting to the HHKB layout and now that I'm at work on my MX Blacks and I find myself typing "\" instead of "backspace" and I'm not enjoying the feel of the stiff linear as much...
I'm still having trouble adjusting to the control being where the caps was as well as the FN key as the smallest I have had was a TKL until the Pro 2.
I hope this HHKB doesn't ruin my love for other MX switches as I still have so much to try.
Topre grows on you man... there is no way back. Be prepared! Control / FN will get in your muscle memory soon enough.
TOPRE IS LOVE
Yes sir!! I sold all my MX boards since. :D
Post by: robbles on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:09:26
Just got my very first topre in the form of this HHKB Pro 2. I bought this one used from a redditor who swapped out the caps from a black pro 1 onto this board.Damn I love the look of the white body and black keys! I have some variation in "crispness' between a few keys on my HHKB but I have learned to adjust. Hoping lubing will help make all the keys feel more uniform.
I'm definitely having some trouble adjusting to the layout but already liking the feel. Seller did mention that this was an almost new board and feels a bit "mushier" than his old pro 1 which feels crisp.
Does anyone else feel that way? I'm wondering how the springs will change over time if at all.
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Post by: biocalves on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:13:31
BTW, there is a gentleman on reddit who is selling his HHKB that was hydrodipped and I think it's by far the most ingenious idea I've ever seen. Considering the amount of work and mods he's done the price isn't bad either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4fczq4/my_h_best_damn_hhkb_youll_ever_have_realforce_red/
I may have to go out and look for some services.
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:14:00
Well, I spent the weekend adjusting to the HHKB layout and now that I'm at work on my MX Blacks and I find myself typing "\" instead of "backspace" and I'm not enjoying the feel of the stiff linear as much...
I'm still having trouble adjusting to the control being where the caps was as well as the FN key as the smallest I have had was a TKL until the Pro 2.
I hope this HHKB doesn't ruin my love for other MX switches as I still have so much to try.
Topre grows on you man... there is no way back. Be prepared! Control / FN will get in your muscle memory soon enough.
TOPRE IS LOVE
Yes sir!! I sold all my MX boards since. :D
You know it! Only board with MX I still use is Clears.
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:15:59
I will not convert so easily! You HHKB'ers are like a damn cult! (Although I can kind of see why) LOL
BTW, there is a gentleman on reddit who is selling his HHKB that was hydrodipped and I think it's by far the most ingenious idea I've ever seen. Considering the amount of work and mods he's done the price isn't bad either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4fczq4/my_h_best_damn_hhkb_youll_ever_have_realforce_red/
I may have to go out and look for some services.
Nice board but I ain't dropping 400 just coz it got a paint job.
Have you heard of the Church of Topretology? :P
Topre will grow on you.. some people may not like it at first... but they keep coming back for more.
Post by: biocalves on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:19:49
I will not convert so easily! You HHKB'ers are like a damn cult! (Although I can kind of see why) LOL
BTW, there is a gentleman on reddit who is selling his HHKB that was hydrodipped and I think it's by far the most ingenious idea I've ever seen. Considering the amount of work and mods he's done the price isn't bad either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/4fczq4/my_h_best_damn_hhkb_youll_ever_have_realforce_red/
I may have to go out and look for some services.
Nice board but I ain't dropping 400 just coz it got a paint job.
Have you heard of the Church of Topretology? :P
Topre will grow on you.. some people may not like it at first... but they keep coming back for more.
Well I figured the Novatouch mod and Hasu Bluetooth will account for an extra $200 in itself so if you were looking to do all those anyway it's not a bad deal.
Topre has definitely caught my attention, and it'll be my main board at home for the next month while I try to adjust to the layout. I'm getting the Planck from MD that just ended in June (I think?) so that's when I'll have a go at some 65g zealios. We'll see how MX will hold up after I've put some real hours into the HHKB.
Post by: Bucake on Mon, 18 April 2016, 13:46:08
Post by: itzmeluigi on Mon, 18 April 2016, 19:00:06
(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Mon, 18 April 2016, 19:17:02
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
#TRIGGERED
Post by: alexjd99 on Mon, 18 April 2016, 20:42:31
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TnQRX6v.gif)
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 18 April 2016, 21:03:14
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
HOFFMAN PLS BAN THIS GUY. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 04:36:47
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
. _ .
O_O
( ) __ ( )
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Tue, 19 April 2016, 05:28:11
Post by: dgneo on Tue, 19 April 2016, 05:32:32
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 19 April 2016, 07:30:05
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/D3ZOL7S.jpg)
Post by: robbles on Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:39:08
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.If you're just gonna throw that away I might be able to take the case off your hands ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
Post by: dante on Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:43:55
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 19 April 2016, 13:14:15
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.What switches are you currently accustomed to using? My daily used to be MX Blues with o-rings, and the HHKB was much quieter. There's a good chance Topre is quieter than whatever switch you are currently using.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 13:19:19
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
TOPRE IS LOVE. Buy HHKB already. You'll love it. True story :thumb:
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:26:44
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Gotta be honest it's quieter than most the other boards i own even at stock though the little noise it gives off i find relaxing, personally i don't find it any louder than some of the membranes i hear used when typing at full speed. I'll be uploading a sound profile video of the HHKB stock on my Youtube channel within the next day or so though typing at varying WPM speeds since i seem to have forgot to do one for the HHKB.
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:31:59
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Gotta be honest it's quieter than most the other boards i own even at stock though the little noise it gives off i find relaxing, personally i don't find it any louder than some of the membranes i hear used when typing at full speed. I'll be uploading a sound profile video of the HHKB stock on my Youtube channel within the next day or so though typing at varying WPM speeds since i seem to have forgot to do one for the HHKB.
I honestly believe that my KUL ES-87 with Clears is quieter than my HHKB. HHKB is really quiet though, but I find the spacebar so noisy, both on my HHKB as well as on my 87U 55g.
Post by: biocalves on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:44:05
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Coming from years of MX blacks I can say the sound of a non silenced hhkb sounds significantly more muted. I'm not even a Topreology nut but the bottoming out of a regular mx key sounds "harsher" and there is a certain pleasantness to the thock that the hhkb produces.
Just do what I did and buy a used one to try it out. HHKB's are generally an easy resale so I don't really see it as a risk of $$$.
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 19 April 2016, 14:45:01
I have to say I'm *slowly* warming up to the idea of purchasing a HHKB. I've been imagining a key right next to my shift and playing make believe of all the hand movements I would need to get my stuff done.
My biggest concern is the noise of the stock board. I don't want to spend the money/time/void warranty of adding o-rings.
Yeah I know it's a very custom unique board - but it might sit better at $175ish for a HHKB and $250 ish for a type-S with option to buy a black Type-S; or at least sell different color shells like on the KUL.
Coming from years of MX blacks I can say the sound of a non silenced hhkb sounds significantly more muted. I'm not even a Topreology nut but the bottoming out of a regular mx key sounds "harsher" and there is a certain pleasantness to the thock that the hhkb produces.
Just do what I did and buy a used one to try it out. HHKB's are generally an easy resale so I don't really see it as a risk of $$$.
That's why I put o-rings on my office board. Now they are dead silent.
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Tue, 19 April 2016, 19:18:32
The layout felt very alien on the pok3r compared to the HHKB
The MX Blues while not horrible did not feel nearly as good as i remember them...they felt almost cheap and plasticky when the tactile click occurred compared to the bump on the Topre....
Definitely totally hooked to the HHKB and Topre switches in general. I still use the pok3r in short bursts for travel with my iPad but never at my desktop anymore...man oh man did it make me appreciate my HHKB and then some.
Post by: dante on Wed, 20 April 2016, 10:45:14
Last night at dinner:
Wife: "honey what are you doing?"
Me: "what does it look like I'm doing? I'm practicing embedded layer cursor navigation"
Wife: "oh ok..."
Post by: jabronni on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:01:21
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Post by: LiquidEvilGaming on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:32:22
Hi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
Post by: jabronni on Wed, 20 April 2016, 15:39:47
Hi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
You've got a good point. Maybe I will start with printed caps until I learn the function layer and impulse buy some blanks later.
Post by: alexjd99 on Wed, 20 April 2016, 20:10:51
Hi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
IMO I think the white looks better with legends and the black looks better blank, but that's just my opinion.
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 21 April 2016, 06:19:19
At some point I'll have to swap the blank caps of the two boards I have - I kind of like the looks of a white keyboard with blank black caps too.
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 April 2016, 06:54:55
Hi there.Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
You've got a good point. Maybe I will start with printed caps until I learn the function layer and impulse buy some blanks later.
Mmm, it's a personal preference really. Blanks are cool if you know that you'll learn the FN layer fast. Or if you're getting an Hasu controller with it so the FN layer would be designed by yourself. I like the stealth black on black caps but if I would go with white then blanks. With or without lettering - HHKB looks awesome either way!
Post by: jabronni on Thu, 21 April 2016, 07:48:59
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 April 2016, 07:58:00
Thanks for the input everyone. I went with white lettered caps and I'm happy with that decision. Now I can watch more YouTube videos of people typing while I anxiously wait.
Check out this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40658.0) thread while you wait. But be warned that you might start wanting to get artisans/modifiers/mods for your keyboard before it arrives.
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 April 2016, 09:17:48
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:04:11
Hi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
Go blank. Looks better, forces you to memorize. In all honesty, took me 2 weeks to get diamond navigation properly in muscle memory. Not that hard, but takes some time before it becomes effortless.
Post by: iLLucionist on Sat, 23 April 2016, 17:05:45
Hi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
IMO I think the white looks better with legends and the black looks better blank, but that's just my opinion.
Funny for me it is the complete opposite. Black on gray has a darth vader look to it, while black on white lettered caps just look cheap to me.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 April 2016, 01:17:28
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
This pictures shows a distinct absence of HHKB Pro 2 Love.
It should not be in this thread.
Post by: ajx on Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:10:41
The only issue i have its when i want to type some passwords, i am so damn slow and make many keystroke mistakesHi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
Go blank. Looks better, forces you to memorize. In all honesty, took me 2 weeks to get diamond navigation properly in muscle memory. Not that hard, but takes some time before it becomes effortless.
Gaming might be in trouble aswell if you bind some keys
Post by: iLLucionist on Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:51:54
The only issue i have its when i want to type some passwords, i am so damn slow and make many keystroke mistakesHi there.
I have been admiring the HHKB from a distance, but I am proud to say that I'm about to join your ranks. I have settled on the white model. Now I need your infinite wisdom on whether to buy lettered or blank keys. Why is this so difficult?
Blanks look so clean...and on most keyboards Full/TKL i would say go for the blanks and be done with it. However 60% boards...even MORE so the HHKB have such a custom different function layer of where everything is it may not be such a good idea unless you never plan to use those function layers or can memorize them fairly quickly. Even though i touch type i doubt i could ever memorize the function layer of the HHKB and as such went for printed Black keycaps myself since they still look clean but i can see the function layer when and if i need to.
Go blank. Looks better, forces you to memorize. In all honesty, took me 2 weeks to get diamond navigation properly in muscle memory. Not that hard, but takes some time before it becomes effortless.
Gaming might be in trouble aswell if you bind some keys
I can see that being an issue. I am a touch typist, so I almost never look down. Except sometimes for symbols on the number keys. But when I'm really lost, I'll just do trial-and-error.
But I suppose you would get used to it fast enough. Gaming as well.. Well.. I don't play starcraft or dota or whatever, so FPS is relatively simple: shift + ctrl etc you can see by the size of the key. Ans wasd + z (for ducking or crouch) is easy to remember.
Post by: robbles on Mon, 25 April 2016, 13:12:26
Post by: mseaworthy on Mon, 25 April 2016, 13:48:13
My lube and Hypersphere silencing rings came in the mail today. Any last words before I rip my baby open for the first time?
Doing this mod the first time, I was reluctant (scared) to pop the sliders out and didn't know how to do it. Taking a flathead to the corner with a little pressure works great.
Also be careful when you put the sliders back in as they will fit in the wrong way just fine. But this will put the inside groves of the slider pointing east/west and you won't be able to fit your caps back on.
[attachimg=1]
Post by: iLLucionist on Mon, 25 April 2016, 13:56:36
My lube and Hypersphere silencing rings came in the mail today. Any last words before I rip my baby open for the first time?
Doing this mod the first time, I was reluctant (scared) to pop the sliders out and didn't know how to do it. Taking a flathead to the corner with a little pressure works great.
Also be careful when you put the sliders back in as they will fit in the wrong way just fine. But this will put the inside groves of the slider pointing east/west and you won't be able to fit your caps back on.
(Attachment Link)
That looks really scary to do! Where did you find the courage? :eek:
Post by: robbles on Mon, 25 April 2016, 14:49:55
My lube and Hypersphere silencing rings came in the mail today. Any last words before I rip my baby open for the first time?
Doing this mod the first time, I was reluctant (scared) to pop the sliders out and didn't know how to do it. Taking a flathead to the corner with a little pressure works great.
Also be careful when you put the sliders back in as they will fit in the wrong way just fine. But this will put the inside groves of the slider pointing east/west and you won't be able to fit your caps back on.
(Attachment Link)
In the middle of the mod now and this tip really helped! It's working a lot better and feeling a lot safer than other tips I've read. Will report back soon.
Post by: the_marsbar on Mon, 25 April 2016, 16:13:37
Post by: robbles on Mon, 25 April 2016, 18:38:41
Used Superlube oil for the slider rails and some extra thick lube on the stabs which I had lying around for my arcade stick. The stabilized keys feel really nice now and just as smooth as their unstabilized counterparts. I didn't put landing pads on the spacebar since sound wasn't a huge issue for me. Lubing seems to have helped it a lot though.
The entire mod took around 2 hours to complete and I think anybody with a little bit of experience opening things up and putting them back together can definitely achieve this mod. It wasn't scary at all. Though some parts did take a little bit of patience and care. That said, I wouldn't want to do this again anytime soon, but I think I will do this myself again rather than shelling out the extra dough for a Type-S.
Next on my list is getting a PBT spacebar. Anybody know a reliable place I can get one? Also if anybody who is interested in this mod has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 25 April 2016, 21:25:41
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/igBKoMt.jpg)
Holy ****!! :O Explain yourself!
HHKB got in a fight with a Realforce...it lost badly.
HOFFMAN PLS BAN THIS GUY. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Right?? :confused:
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 26 April 2016, 01:44:52
Mod complete! It feels really really good! Hypersphere's rings are the real deal. The tactility of the *bump* is still there and I can feel no difference in actuation. And boy is this puppy quiet now! A total night and day difference. The HVAC in my office is already kind of loud so the stock thock was never an issue. But now I can hardly hear the thing. But I can still *feel* it.
Used Superlube oil for the slider rails and some extra thick lube on the stabs which I had lying around for my arcade stick. The stabilized keys feel really nice now and just as smooth as their unstabilized counterparts. I didn't put landing pads on the spacebar since sound wasn't a huge issue for me. Lubing seems to have helped it a lot though.
The entire mod took around 2 hours to complete and I think anybody with a little bit of experience opening things up and putting them back together can definitely achieve this mod. It wasn't scary at all. Though some parts did take a little bit of patience and care. That said, I wouldn't want to do this again anytime soon, but I think I will do this myself again rather than shelling out the extra dough for a Type-S.
Next on my list is getting a PBT spacebar. Anybody know a reliable place I can get one? Also if anybody who is interested in this mod has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer.
Nice to hear! Really really thinking hard about doing some kind of silencing mod on mine and I want to get Hypersphere's but they're so damn expensive.
If you find a reliable place for the PBT spacebars, please, PM me.
Post by: iLLucionist on Tue, 26 April 2016, 12:24:26
Mod complete! It feels really really good! Hypersphere's rings are the real deal. The tactility of the *bump* is still there and I can feel no difference in actuation. And boy is this puppy quiet now! A total night and day difference. The HVAC in my office is already kind of loud so the stock thock was never an issue. But now I can hardly hear the thing. But I can still *feel* it.
Used Superlube oil for the slider rails and some extra thick lube on the stabs which I had lying around for my arcade stick. The stabilized keys feel really nice now and just as smooth as their unstabilized counterparts. I didn't put landing pads on the spacebar since sound wasn't a huge issue for me. Lubing seems to have helped it a lot though.
The entire mod took around 2 hours to complete and I think anybody with a little bit of experience opening things up and putting them back together can definitely achieve this mod. It wasn't scary at all. Though some parts did take a little bit of patience and care. That said, I wouldn't want to do this again anytime soon, but I think I will do this myself again rather than shelling out the extra dough for a Type-S.
Next on my list is getting a PBT spacebar. Anybody know a reliable place I can get one? Also if anybody who is interested in this mod has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer.
Nice to hear! Really really thinking hard about doing some kind of silencing mod on mine and I want to get Hypersphere's but they're so damn expensive.
If you find a reliable place for the PBT spacebars, please, PM me.
I'd be interested in seriously good Topre PBT spacebars as well. I really do not want to buy a realforce 104 around my spacebar from massdrop for this. Just the bars.
Post by: robbles on Tue, 26 April 2016, 13:19:22
Mod complete! It feels really really good! Hypersphere's rings are the real deal. The tactility of the *bump* is still there and I can feel no difference in actuation. And boy is this puppy quiet now! A total night and day difference. The HVAC in my office is already kind of loud so the stock thock was never an issue. But now I can hardly hear the thing. But I can still *feel* it.
Used Superlube oil for the slider rails and some extra thick lube on the stabs which I had lying around for my arcade stick. The stabilized keys feel really nice now and just as smooth as their unstabilized counterparts. I didn't put landing pads on the spacebar since sound wasn't a huge issue for me. Lubing seems to have helped it a lot though.
The entire mod took around 2 hours to complete and I think anybody with a little bit of experience opening things up and putting them back together can definitely achieve this mod. It wasn't scary at all. Though some parts did take a little bit of patience and care. That said, I wouldn't want to do this again anytime soon, but I think I will do this myself again rather than shelling out the extra dough for a Type-S.
Next on my list is getting a PBT spacebar. Anybody know a reliable place I can get one? Also if anybody who is interested in this mod has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer.
Nice to hear! Really really thinking hard about doing some kind of silencing mod on mine and I want to get Hypersphere's but they're so damn expensive.
If you find a reliable place for the PBT spacebars, please, PM me.
I'd be interested in seriously good Topre PBT spacebars as well. I really do not want to buy a realforce 104 around my spacebar from massdrop for this. Just the bars.
The stock HHKB spacebar is probably the nicest ABS cap I have ever used, and I honestly have no qualms about it. At this point I'm just trying to pimp this thing out as much as I can. Except for 55g domes. I have small man hands and 45g is more than heavy for me. Gotta draw the line somewhere.
Post by: rm-rf on Tue, 26 April 2016, 19:17:12
(http://i.imgur.com/lHSfVm8.gif)
Post by: jabronni on Tue, 26 April 2016, 20:34:05
Post by: funderburker on Wed, 27 April 2016, 01:26:30
Well it's here. I am typing on this piece of heaven right now. Consider me a believer.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Congratulations jabronni! ;D
Post by: jabronni on Wed, 27 April 2016, 07:50:17
Well it's here. I am typing on this piece of heaven right now. Consider me a believer.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Congratulations jabronni! ;D
Thanks! It really was love at first thock. Also really happy with the lettered white caps. Great suggestions brethren.
Post by: iLLucionist on Wed, 27 April 2016, 08:52:04
Well it's here. I am typing on this piece of heaven right now. Consider me a believer.
TOPRE IS LOVE.
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 27 April 2016, 22:40:19
(http://i.imgur.com/UA4viU7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LJt5QHk.jpg)
Post by: alexjd99 on Wed, 27 April 2016, 22:40:24
Well it's here. I am typing on this piece of heaven right now. Consider me a believer.
TOPRE IS LOVE.
TOPRE IS LIFE.
Post by: mteinum on Tue, 10 May 2016, 01:06:13
(http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y323/Mirage_Scarlet/hhkb.png) (http://s1026.photobucket.com/user/Mirage_Scarlet/media/hhkb.png.html)
Download here: (pdf, svg, eps)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/awek0fu9z4x27d6/AAAJxwUlRa7sy4rw8qpNxLPAa?dl=0
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 12 May 2016, 03:29:09
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 12 May 2016, 11:08:11
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dMqwcZW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UA4viU7.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LJt5QHk.jpg)
wow, dyed yourself?
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 12 May 2016, 11:22:47
what if I don't love it?
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 12 May 2016, 11:48:32
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 12 May 2016, 12:58:47
then you are wrong
So I might think that I don't love it, when in actuality, I do love it?
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:03:58
then you are wrong
So I might think that I don't love it, when in actuality, I do love it?
You love it. But are you worthy? That's for the hhkb to decide.
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:06:34
then you are wrong
So I might think that I don't love it, when in actuality, I do love it?
You love it. But are you worthy? That's for the hhkb to decide.
Im going to spoil it with all kinds of homemade caps, I think it will love me quite nicely.
Im glad you changed your picture, that was my fav kitty.
not my fave demik avatar though.
Dewey was the best IMO, in my short time on this forum.
Post by: demik on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:25:54
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 12 May 2016, 13:45:44
Dewey will be back eventually. It's googly eye kitty's time to shine.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/129g9HK07tEtZm/giphy.gif)
Post by: alexjd99 on Thu, 12 May 2016, 18:03:48
Post by: whmeltonjr on Thu, 12 May 2016, 19:02:42
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dMqwcZW.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UA4viU7.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LJt5QHk.jpg)
wow, dyed yourself?
Those are KeyKollectiv modifiers
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 15 May 2016, 02:48:20
Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 15 May 2016, 07:36:02
Thanks for the heads up rowdy. I wasn't immediately blown away but I can appreciate the board. I've only had it two days And not alot of computer time.Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
My 60% had a split right shift and the same delete backspace layout, but the left control and arrow setup is new to me
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
Post by: dannrawr on Thu, 19 May 2016, 14:36:48
how was it?Thanks for the heads up rowdy. I wasn't immediately blown away but I can appreciate the board. I've only had it two days And not alot of computer time.Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
My 60% had a split right shift and the same delete backspace layout, but the left control and arrow setup is new to me
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 19 May 2016, 15:54:57
how was it?Thanks for the heads up rowdy. I wasn't immediately blown away but I can appreciate the board. I've only had it two days And not alot of computer time.Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
My 60% had a split right shift and the same delete backspace layout, but the left control and arrow setup is new to me
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
So i'm definitely enjoying it more than when I first got it.
The keys feel really crisp and snappy.
Switching from the command key left of the space bar to the control key is weird.
I use a mac all day at work and windows at home. haven't really used the control key because of this.
I have to hold down fn to use the delete key, which is kind of annoying on the mac.
If anyone knows how to fix that, let me know.
More than anything else, the arrows are really difficult to get used to.
I have since reprogrammed my aek and my gh60 to put the arrows on [;'/ instead of ijkl. hopefully this will speed up my learning curve.
I love the sound of the left shift though. omg
interesting fact is that my WPM average has improved by almost 30% and accuracy has improved by 5%
not that the board is controlling my fingers, but the amount I spent has made me practice more and that has resulted in some decent gains in that aspect.
Post by: ashraf on Fri, 20 May 2016, 00:16:32
Rotating back to the HHKB. As much as I love my Purple Zealios and SA caps, nothing beats the satisfying pop of Topre switches.
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 20 May 2016, 07:55:40
Post by: dante on Fri, 20 May 2016, 16:25:29
Assume PFU released a tenkeyless 80% that offered the same typing feel/sound as the HHKB; would you jump ship?
Post by: dgneo on Fri, 20 May 2016, 16:27:56
Here's a real dilemma for you folks:
Assume PFU released a tenkeyless 80% that offered the same typing feel/sound as the HHKB; would you jump ship?
Nope, perfectly happy with the size of the HHKB. I love the portability of it, as I take it to and from work daily.
Post by: Moistgun on Fri, 20 May 2016, 21:24:45
Here's a real dilemma for you folks:
Assume PFU released a tenkeyless 80% that offered the same typing feel/sound as the HHKB; would you jump ship?
Im new to topre, but I dont like anything bigger than 60% anymore. :thumb:
except my M :))
Post by: Capmerica on Fri, 20 May 2016, 22:17:48
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: mteinum on Sat, 21 May 2016, 03:38:30
Guys, is it weird to order artisan caps when my hhkb is on its way of delivery?
Nope. I ordered a red topre esc before I bought the HHKB :)
Post by: Moistgun on Sat, 21 May 2016, 07:24:14
Guys, is it weird to order artisan caps when my hhkb is on its way of delivery?
Nope. I ordered a red topre esc before I bought the HHKB :)
Me too!
I had a topre esc for like 2 months.
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Sun, 22 May 2016, 02:56:12
Guys, is it weird to order artisan caps when my hhkb is on its way of delivery?
Nope. I ordered a red topre esc before I bought the HHKB :)
Me too!
I had a topre esc for like 2 months.
I never truly believed in the Topre switch hype but I ordered on anyway. When I finally got it out of the box and typed those first words, I was completely lost. There are very few blissful moments in ones life. I experienced one of those blissful moments then. Truly a perfect board out of the box. Nothing I have used compares to it.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 22 May 2016, 03:17:44
how was it?Thanks for the heads up rowdy. I wasn't immediately blown away but I can appreciate the board. I've only had it two days And not alot of computer time.Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
My 60% had a split right shift and the same delete backspace layout, but the left control and arrow setup is new to me
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
So i'm definitely enjoying it more than when I first got it.
The keys feel really crisp and snappy.
Switching from the command key left of the space bar to the control key is weird.
I use a mac all day at work and windows at home. haven't really used the control key because of this.
I have to hold down fn to use the delete key, which is kind of annoying on the mac.
If anyone knows how to fix that, let me know.
More than anything else, the arrows are really difficult to get used to.
I have since reprogrammed my aek and my gh60 to put the arrows on [;'/ instead of ijkl. hopefully this will speed up my learning curve.
I love the sound of the left shift though. omg
interesting fact is that my WPM average has improved by almost 30% and accuracy has improved by 5%
not that the board is controlling my fingers, but the amount I spent has made me practice more and that has resulted in some decent gains in that aspect.
SW3 behind the panel on the back controls whether it is backspace or delete. Make sure you unplug and replug the keyboard after changing any of the switches.
The arrow keys will come with time - it took me a while because I keep switching between TKL at work and HHKB at home, but they are not a problem any more.
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 22 May 2016, 07:32:48
So I use switch 3 and it works fine on pc but it does not when I use Mac modehow was it?Thanks for the heads up rowdy. I wasn't immediately blown away but I can appreciate the board. I've only had it two days And not alot of computer time.Guys. its landing by the 16th.
what if I don't love it?
Give yourself a couple of weeks with it, preferably exclusively. The layout might take a little getting used to, but you should come to realise that it is the correct layout.
My 60% had a split right shift and the same delete backspace layout, but the left control and arrow setup is new to me
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
So i'm definitely enjoying it more than when I first got it.
The keys feel really crisp and snappy.
Switching from the command key left of the space bar to the control key is weird.
I use a mac all day at work and windows at home. haven't really used the control key because of this.
I have to hold down fn to use the delete key, which is kind of annoying on the mac.
If anyone knows how to fix that, let me know.
More than anything else, the arrows are really difficult to get used to.
I have since reprogrammed my aek and my gh60 to put the arrows on [;'/ instead of ijkl. hopefully this will speed up my learning curve.
I love the sound of the left shift though. omg
interesting fact is that my WPM average has improved by almost 30% and accuracy has improved by 5%
not that the board is controlling my fingers, but the amount I spent has made me practice more and that has resulted in some decent gains in that aspect.
SW3 behind the panel on the back controls whether it is backspace or delete. Make sure you unplug and replug the keyboard after changing any of the switches.
The arrow keys will come with time - it took me a while because I keep switching between TKL at work and HHKB at home, but they are not a problem any more.
Sent from my fingers at a local payphone
Post by: dannrawr on Sun, 22 May 2016, 09:58:39
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 22 May 2016, 10:25:04
what does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
Post by: dannrawr on Sun, 22 May 2016, 11:39:03
thanks bro, now i turned sw5 to on, win button dont do win button lolwhat does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 23 May 2016, 23:47:09
thanks bro, now i turned sw5 to on, win button dont do win button lolwhat does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
You've turned the left winkey into a function key then
Post by: dannrawr on Tue, 24 May 2016, 00:30:24
I see, ill check em when i reach home. Thanks brothanks bro, now i turned sw5 to on, win button dont do win button lolwhat does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
You've turned the left winkey into a function key then
Post by: Moistgun on Tue, 24 May 2016, 09:58:01
I see, ill check em when i reach home. Thanks brothanks bro, now i turned sw5 to on, win button dont do win button lolwhat does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
You've turned the left winkey into a function key then
Why havent you taken your board with you?
Post by: dannrawr on Tue, 24 May 2016, 11:09:18
i simply afraid damaging the kb carrying them in my sling bag taking public transport to office :-\I see, ill check em when i reach home. Thanks brothanks bro, now i turned sw5 to on, win button dont do win button lolwhat does the key beside alt do?Command on Mac, Win key on Win
You've turned the left winkey into a function key then
Why havent you taken your board with you?
solve the problem, turned sw1 to on. thanks guys for the help
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:10:34
Post by: Bucake on Wed, 01 June 2016, 16:04:26
Post by: STARLORDCOFFEE on Wed, 01 June 2016, 20:49:39
What is the best value sleeve to show your precious baby true love?
Order from Switchnollie. Just do something custom with him. Honestly he is end game in my opinion as far as sleeves go. Vesper thinks so too lol
Post by: bocahgundul on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:07:22
+1What is the best value sleeve to show your precious baby true love?
Order from Switchnollie. Just do something custom with him. Honestly he is end game in my opinion as far as sleeves go. Vesper thinks so too lol
Post by: Moistgun on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:07:42
What is the best value sleeve to show your precious baby true love?
Order from Switchnollie. Just do something custom with him. Honestly he is end game in my opinion as far as sleeves go. Vesper thinks so too lol
i didnt know that was an option
whats nollie charging?
Post by: callmejag on Wed, 01 June 2016, 22:42:34
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:25:43
Post by: bocahgundul on Thu, 02 June 2016, 00:57:53
Type-S and Hasu controllers waiting for me at the post office :D :D :DUgh type S
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 02 June 2016, 15:29:16
What is the best value sleeve to show your precious baby true love?
Order from Switchnollie. Just do something custom with him. Honestly he is end game in my opinion as far as sleeves go. Vesper thinks so too lol
i didnt know that was an option
whats nollie charging?
Would be interested in this too! Switchnollie, I'm waiting when you're going to make some padded sleeves so I can protect my baby even more! Maybe that could be an xxxtra-custom sleeve, aye?
Post by: losing_ctrl on Thu, 02 June 2016, 18:48:37
Type-S and Hasu controllers waiting for me at the post office :D :D :D
Type-S is great, I bet you will like it. :thumb:
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 02 June 2016, 19:26:25
Type-S and Hasu controllers waiting for me at the post office :D :D :D
nice! exactly what i'm using. :-)
can't think of anything better as a daily driver. the feel is great, sound is great, and obviously has a great layout with hasu's. size / weight is great as well, if you plan on taking it with you.
(and in my opinion a PBT spacebar would be a very nice improvement as well.)
Post by: ajx on Fri, 03 June 2016, 09:30:43
Post by: Corsa1r on Fri, 03 June 2016, 10:23:16
Post by: ajx on Fri, 03 June 2016, 13:20:59
Post by: Bucake on Fri, 03 June 2016, 13:31:21
Post by: ajx on Fri, 03 June 2016, 17:32:13
Post by: robbles on Fri, 03 June 2016, 19:00:21
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 03 June 2016, 21:42:09
Anybody else have an issue where the board doesn't sit perfectly flat after opening it? After opening it to lube and silence, it teeters just slightly. Any tips?
Here's one, don't open the damn thing in the FIRST place.
If you aren't competent with these 'horrid' keyboards then why the need to open one? It's like giving a first year apprentice permission to strip and reassemble a Chrysler A57.
Don't mess with it, if you aint got the experience sunshine.
Post by: romevi on Fri, 03 June 2016, 21:44:45
Anybody else have an issue where the board doesn't sit perfectly flat after opening it? After opening it to lube and silence, it teeters just slightly. I currently have a folded up receipt under the bottom right corner to keep it stable but it is annoying nonetheless. Any tips?
For my Realforce it was a bit warped out of the box, but after a quick flex it sits perfectly.
lol Elrick. I've missed your presence.
Post by: Moistgun on Fri, 03 June 2016, 21:49:29
How do I get a job without experience?Anybody else have an issue where the board doesn't sit perfectly flat after opening it? After opening it to lube and silence, it teeters just slightly. Any tips?
Here's one, don't open the damn thing in the FIRST place.
If you aren't competent with these 'horrid' keyboards then why the need to open one? It's like giving a first year apprentice permission to strip and reassemble a Chrysler A57.
Don't mess with it, if you aint got the experience sunshine.
How do I get experience without a job?
Sent from my local payphone
Post by: chryos1029 on Sun, 05 June 2016, 01:54:59
I love the apperance of the keyboard and also the layout and the build quality.
The sound it makes is really good too.
But the switches didnt impress me :(
Or is it that I need a few more days to get used to it?
I love my linear switches but maybe topre arent for me?
Post by: byker on Sun, 05 June 2016, 01:57:25
Just got my HHKB and I'm really not that impressed.
I love the apperance of the keyboard and also the layout and the build quality.
The sound it makes is really good too.
But the switches didnt impress me :(
Or is it that I need a few more days to get used to it?
I love my linear switches but maybe topre arent for me?
Most people who don't like it make the mistake of not giving it enough time. Use it for at least a week or two to get used to it and fall in love ;D
Post by: Bucake on Sun, 05 June 2016, 03:49:13
seconded.
i'd say give it 2 weeks (exclusively), then go back to whatever you used before it.
at that point, if you feel glad to be rid of topre, then maybe it's not for you.
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 05 June 2016, 09:03:14
^
seconded.
i'd say give it 2 weeks (exclusively), then go back to whatever you used before it.
at that point, if you feel glad to be rid of topre, then maybe it's not for you.
To byker and bukake
do you guys think this would be the case with anything. I mean, if I used cherry red switches everyday for two weeks, I think I would have a hook set for that as well.
I can totally confirm using topre for 2 weeks exclusively will hook you in.
Post by: bocahgundul on Sun, 05 June 2016, 09:20:00
just go with the normal HHKB
Post by: romevi on Sun, 05 June 2016, 09:45:11
type s is a scam. they are so scratchy
just go with the normal HHKB
Don't listen to this seally person.
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 06 June 2016, 03:10:32
^
seconded.
i'd say give it 2 weeks (exclusively), then go back to whatever you used before it.
at that point, if you feel glad to be rid of topre, then maybe it's not for you.
Usually it's the layout that gets people, and using HHKB exclusively for a couple of weeks lets the layout settle in.
Hopefully the same goes for the Topre feel.
Post by: swimmingbird on Mon, 06 June 2016, 04:31:29
^
seconded.
i'd say give it 2 weeks (exclusively), then go back to whatever you used before it.
at that point, if you feel glad to be rid of topre, then maybe it's not for you.
Usually it's the layout that gets people, and using HHKB exclusively for a couple of weeks lets the layout settle in.
Hopefully the same goes for the Topre feel.
I always find myself reaching for the HHKB arrow keys when I use my other boards now
Post by: robbles on Mon, 06 June 2016, 12:45:09
Anybody else have an issue where the board doesn't sit perfectly flat after opening it? After opening it to lube and silence, it teeters just slightly. I currently have a folded up receipt under the bottom right corner to keep it stable but it is annoying nonetheless. Any tips?
For my Realforce it was a bit warped out of the box, but after a quick flex it sits perfectly.
lol Elrick. I've missed your presence.
Giving it a quick flex worked for me. Thanks romevi! Also lol Elrick, thanks for calling me Sunshine :-*
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 09 June 2016, 05:38:19
Post by: tkim on Sun, 03 July 2016, 09:06:08
Jokes aside, the hhkb isn't as bad as something like blues. Most of the rubber domes in my office emit a comparable level of noise (they're all cherry branded). I am just wondering who would have the nerve to complain to HR about the sound of someones keyboard?
;D
Post by: dante on Sun, 03 July 2016, 10:45:29
Post by: the_marsbar on Sun, 03 July 2016, 11:19:03
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 03 July 2016, 11:23:57
I decided to bring the black HHKB Pro 2 to the office this week, to see if it was too loud to use in the office, or if it's nicer to type on for longer periods of time. I've reached the conclusion that even though no one complains, I try to type softly, because the keyboard is just making more noise. I certainly prefer the Type-S for the office. I'll be switching keyboards again after this week.If you don't bring attention to the keyboard, I've found Noone even notices it. But if someone sees it, or you mention it, people will complain.
Mines silenced though so no more pain =)
Post by: dante on Sun, 03 July 2016, 11:38:31
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 06 July 2016, 10:26:18
bring a unicomp to work until someone complains then switch to the standard hhkb; they will love you
HHKB Type S is basically the only board my girlfriend will tolerate me using anymore lol
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 07 July 2016, 02:56:29
Post by: czarek on Thu, 07 July 2016, 03:48:31
Actually the standard HHKB Pro 2 annoyed me a bit when I was in the office... I silenced it yesterday using Hypersphere's silencing rings, and so far I really like the result :) It's a bit different compared to my Type-S, which I probably still prefer, but they're getting close now :) I'll post a review soon, and attach audio recordings of all "three" boards.
The difference could be because of the keycaps. I found quite a big difference between white and black HHKB keycaps, with black being a bit more thocky, and white a bit more clacky, if you know what I mean.
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:00:46
Post by: czarek on Thu, 07 July 2016, 04:27:07
Post by: praaseyn on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:36:17
Mandatory shoddy phone pic attached.
Post by: Moistgun on Sun, 07 August 2016, 10:40:10
First post! Browsing GH has given me a taste for Topre, so last week I bought a HHKB pro2 type-S (my MX Blues are a little too loud for work I told myself). I've been frankly blown away by the typing experience compared to my blues, but I've a few niggles. Particularly, the delete/backspace key makes a pronounced and audible springing/pinging sound when it is released, and otherwise feels very scratchy compared to the alpha-numerics (some have more of a springy sound than others) and (smoothest of all) the return/enter and left shift. This spring is also audible when I place the keyboard on my desk - it's so loud that it's very clearly coming from the delete key. Should I expect (or hope) for this to calm down over time? I wouldn't like this to dampen my enjoyment of my board. I just had so much fun typing this.
Mandatory shoddy phone pic attached.
Does it only make this sound if you completely bottom out?
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Post by: praaseyn on Sun, 07 August 2016, 11:06:43
Does it only make this sound if you completely bottom out?
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Lightly tapping the key also does the trick. It's the kind of sound you'd get if you had a spring firmly attached to a surface and then flicked the top of it.
Post by: Crossfire on Mon, 08 August 2016, 00:37:31
Open her up, rearrange the spring and the dome, lube that slider rails just for a good measure, close her down...next time you'll lubing the s**t out of every switch :)
Does it only make this sound if you completely bottom out?
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Lightly tapping the key also does the trick. It's the kind of sound you'd get if you had a spring firmly attached to a surface and then flicked the top of it.
Post by: derb2k2 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 10:50:27
Just got my HHKB and I'm really not that impressed.
I love the apperance of the keyboard and also the layout and the build quality.
The sound it makes is really good too.
But the switches didnt impress me :(
Or is it that I need a few more days to get used to it?
I love my linear switches but maybe topre arent for me?
I was also underwhelmed at first but slowly realized its superiority. Stick with it (or die). Do as I say.
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Post by: sushi on Thu, 11 August 2016, 07:48:24
Just under a month with my HHKB and gone from excited, to feeling ripped off, and now really appreciating the beauty of the design behind this little kb.
I just installed Hasu's controller and lubed up the sliders - lubing really makes they key presses feel more refined and 'thockier'.
Post by: mortalcoil on Fri, 12 August 2016, 02:11:56
Still getting used to having to use the Fn key to engage Caps though....lol. :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 12 August 2016, 16:44:18
Hype --> Disappointment --> True Love.So the disappointment was stock?
Just under a month with my HHKB and gone from excited, to feeling ripped off, and now really appreciating the beauty of the design behind this little kb.
I just installed Hasu's controller and lubed up the sliders - lubing really makes they key presses feel more refined and 'thockier'.
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 14 August 2016, 02:48:53
First post! Browsing GH has given me a taste for Topre, so last week I bought a HHKB pro2 type-S (my MX Blues are a little too loud for work I told myself). I've been frankly blown away by the typing experience compared to my blues, but I've a few niggles. Particularly, the delete/backspace key makes a pronounced and audible springing/pinging sound when it is released, and otherwise feels very scratchy compared to the alpha-numerics (some have more of a springy sound than others) and (smoothest of all) the return/enter and left shift. This spring is also audible when I place the keyboard on my desk - it's so loud that it's very clearly coming from the delete key. Should I expect (or hope) for this to calm down over time? I wouldn't like this to dampen my enjoyment of my board. I just had so much fun typing this.
Mandatory shoddy phone pic attached.
Welcome to Geekhack!
If it is still under warranty and not difficult to return it, I would suggest following up with the vendor first.
Opening the keyboard and repositioning the domes could make things worse, and will almost certainly void your warranty.
Post by: sushi on Sun, 14 August 2016, 03:36:11
Hype --> Disappointment --> True Love.So the disappointment was stock?
Just under a month with my HHKB and gone from excited, to feeling ripped off, and now really appreciating the beauty of the design behind this little kb.
I just installed Hasu's controller and lubed up the sliders - lubing really makes they key presses feel more refined and 'thockier'.
No, stock is actually pretty great - it just takes a while to really appreciate.
The HHKB looks so amazing in photos and is loved by so many that when you first get it, there's a lot of things at face value that disappoint:
- It's light as a feather if you've coming from a board with a metal plate
- The case is creaky and feels like a toy
- The USB hub and port placement seem like an afterthought
- Lack of rubber feet in the back gives it a tendency to slide around
- Topre just feels like rubber dome
But after using it for about a month, the experience really grows on you and you start to discover the really small details that make this board a pleasure to use. I use the hhkb a lot with my laptop and as a result, I move it around a lot. Instead of feeling light and cheap, the weight is now a benefit. Topre switches like many have said, just take some time to get used too, but after, you'll wonder why you bothered typing on anything else. The PBT keycaps that come stock with the hhkb are also top notch in quality and feel - combined with the topre domes just makes it a pleasure to type with.
It's a really pretty amazing keyboard that really only shines after using it for a while. If it weren't for all the hype around it, I'm not sure how many people would buy an HHKB after just their first hands on impression.
tl;dr - fell in love with the hhkb, just have to get past the first date.
Post by: praaseyn on Sun, 14 August 2016, 05:30:12
Welcome to Geekhack!
If it is still under warranty and not difficult to return it, I would suggest following up with the vendor first.
Opening the keyboard and repositioning the domes could make things worse, and will almost certainly void your warranty.
Thanks! I live in Europe so I had to import it from amazon.co.jp - unfortunately not in a position to claim on my warranty. I'll just stick with it for now and hope that some of the scratchiness of the key will fade with time and I'll just forget about the spring. I'll reassess in a month or so and just enjoy the rest of the typing experience... I shouldn't have to use the backspace as much as I currently do ;D
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Sun, 14 August 2016, 10:53:02
type s is a scam. they are so scratchy
just go with the normal HHKB
type s is a scam. they are so scratchy
just go with the normal HHKB
Don't listen to this seally person.
please don't kill me, but this time i have to agree with mr. seal here.
i'm actually sold my type-s to buy a normal HHKB2, just because i'm sooooo loving the sound of the normal HHKB (much) more.
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 16 August 2016, 06:05:18
Welcome to Geekhack!
If it is still under warranty and not difficult to return it, I would suggest following up with the vendor first.
Opening the keyboard and repositioning the domes could make things worse, and will almost certainly void your warranty.
Thanks! I live in Europe so I had to import it from amazon.co.jp - unfortunately not in a position to claim on my warranty. I'll just stick with it for now and hope that some of the scratchiness of the key will fade with time and I'll just forget about the spring. I'll reassess in a month or so and just enjoy the rest of the typing experience... I shouldn't have to use the backspace as much as I currently do ;D
Ah, that would make returning it a bit more difficult.
Well, if you're able to use it for now, great! It might smooth out a bit in time.
If not, there's lots of ideas and people around to help you try to fix it.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 16 August 2016, 08:57:30
Hype --> Disappointment --> True Love.So the disappointment was stock?
Just under a month with my HHKB and gone from excited, to feeling ripped off, and now really appreciating the beauty of the design behind this little kb.
I just installed Hasu's controller and lubed up the sliders - lubing really makes they key presses feel more refined and 'thockier'.
No, stock is actually pretty great - it just takes a while to really appreciate.
The HHKB looks so amazing in photos and is loved by so many that when you first get it, there's a lot of things at face value that disappoint:
- It's light as a feather if you've coming from a board with a metal plate
- The case is creaky and feels like a toy
- The USB hub and port placement seem like an afterthought
- Lack of rubber feet in the back gives it a tendency to slide around
- Topre just feels like rubber dome
But after using it for about a month, the experience really grows on you and you start to discover the really small details that make this board a pleasure to use. I use the hhkb a lot with my laptop and as a result, I move it around a lot. Instead of feeling light and cheap, the weight is now a benefit. Topre switches like many have said, just take some time to get used too, but after, you'll wonder why you bothered typing on anything else. The PBT keycaps that come stock with the hhkb are also top notch in quality and feel - combined with the topre domes just makes it a pleasure to type with.
It's a really pretty amazing keyboard that really only shines after using it for a while. If it weren't for all the hype around it, I'm not sure how many people would buy an HHKB after just their first hands on impression.
tl;dr - fell in love with the hhkb, just have to get past the first date.
I think my transition was helped by my Realforce as I went MX Clears > 87U 55g > HHKB JP (silenced and lubed) > HHKBBT.
With MX Clears, the bump was too harsh for me, so going to the 87u helped because it's still a nice, harsh bump but it's topre... Getting there. I then became the second owner of a silenced and lubed JP, it was super good but perhaps too soft (not sure that's the right word, there wasn't as much as a bump as I wanted). I finally took the dive and imported a BT, and everything is perfect about it. The sound and feeling is the best I've ever tried, and it's making me not want to go near MX now (which is a problem as my design work is all based on MX :rolleyes:).
Post by: brighenne on Tue, 16 August 2016, 14:31:49
Post by: Hypersphere on Tue, 16 August 2016, 17:28:15
What are people doing to their layouts that they need Hasu's controller? At first I thought I would want one, but with the delete changed to backspace, I'm pretty content with it.Indeed -- this has been somewhat of a mystery to me as well. For me, the main elements of the HHKB are the 60% form factor, Topre switches, Topre dye-sub PBT keycaps, and the famed HHKB layout. Whereas I can find the form factor, switches, and caps on other keyboards, the unique feature and chief attraction of the HHKB is its efficient and intuitive layout. However, for keyboard enthusiasts, one person's perfection is a challenge to be altered and tweaked to suit the tastes of another person. As for me, I use the legendary Xwhatsit, Hasu, and Soarer controllers/converters to morph the layout on non-HHKB keyboards into a HHKB configuration.
Post by: iichigoz on Tue, 16 August 2016, 20:48:52
I have been using the HHKB type S for a few months and now Im considering getting another normal HHKB. Do you guys think it's worth getting another one just for the sound and feel. Anyone can advise on any differences with the feel and sound of the 2 keyboards?
Post by: Tactile on Tue, 16 August 2016, 21:28:26
What are people doing to their layouts that they need Hasu's controller? At first I thought I would want one, but with the delete changed to backspace, I'm pretty content with it.
I now have volume controls which work in Windows. I also have a numeric keypad on an additional layer, similar to the embedded numeric keypad on (in?) a Realforce 87U or a Cherry ML4100. And I'm sure lots of folks shift between QWERTY, Colemak, and Dvorak layouts, and don't forget people around the world using AZERTY or QWERTZ layouts native to their home country.
Reading Hasu's setup in his keymap_hasu.c source code file is a pretty good lesson in how powerful and flexible the programming can get.
Post by: Tactile on Tue, 16 August 2016, 22:23:59
Post by: Neo.X on Wed, 17 August 2016, 19:32:02
Post by: brighenne on Wed, 17 August 2016, 19:34:45
What are people doing to their layouts that they need Hasu's controller? At first I thought I would want one, but with the delete changed to backspace, I'm pretty content with it.
I now have volume controls which work in Windows. I also have a numeric keypad on an additional layer, similar to the embedded numeric keypad on (in?) a Realforce 87U or a Cherry ML4100. And I'm sure lots of folks shift between QWERTY, Colemak, and Dvorak layouts, and don't forget people around the world using AZERTY or QWERTZ layouts native to their home country.
Reading Hasu's setup in his keymap_hasu.c source code file is a pretty good lesson in how powerful and flexible the programming can get.
And let me add that the layouts I mentioned above are not either/or choices. You could have all of those layouts programmed into the controller and switch between them anytime.
Makes sense, all things I don't use my keyboard for, haha. Thanks for the detailed response.
Post by: derb2k2 on Wed, 17 August 2016, 19:45:59
My next project is to lube and silencing one of my HHKB, hope it will improve the typing feeling.
I would venture to say you'll enjoy the sound of it more since feeling won't change much. Lubing results in less clack also and if you use thin silencing rings, then the travel distance won't be much altered. I will say that you will enjoy typing on it more though :)
Post by: Neo.X on Wed, 17 August 2016, 20:31:47
My next project is to lube and silencing one of my HHKB, hope it will improve the typing feeling.
I would venture to say you'll enjoy the sound of it more since feeling won't change much. Lubing results in less clack also and if you use thin silencing rings, then the travel distance won't be much altered. I will say that you will enjoy typing on it more though :)
Thanks, I did those to my RF and Novatouch with hypersphere rings. The result is awesome. I hope it will be the same to HHKB, or even better.
Post by: mikes41720 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 05:50:24
Curious, do people really find the stock HHKB to be smoother than the type-S? I got to try both at a recent meet-up and I couldn't really tell the difference, to be honest.
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 18 August 2016, 06:43:50
Post by: mikes41720 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 07:24:04
You mean a black HHKB with Type-S sliders?
Yeah, I meant a black HHKB with the Type-S sliders. :)
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 18 August 2016, 07:53:25
Post by: Bucake on Thu, 18 August 2016, 11:01:07
though, switching between the ultra smooth 87u realforce and my relatively scratchy hhkb, it doesn't bother me at all.
Post by: mikes41720 on Thu, 18 August 2016, 12:56:42
i probably would've gone with stock hhkb + hypersphere rings now, but when i got my type-s i hadn't seen as many reports of scratchiness yet.
though, switching between the ultra smooth 87u realforce and my relatively scratchy hhkb, it doesn't bother me at all.
I think you really have to nitpick already by then! Although I haven't tried stock HHKB + hypersphere rings, so that should be nice. It's funny because I think the Type-S is actually noisier than the stock Realforce!
Some people refer to the Type-S as being scratchy. However, I'd say the difference is quite small, and only noticeable if you switch between the boards regularly. I think I prefer the Type-S over the stock HHKB Pro 2. A Pro 2 with Hypersphere's dampening rings sits somewhere between the Type-S and a stock Pro 2 in my opinion. Of the two configurations I'm not sure what I prefer :)
The Topre thock leans many ways. Some people swear just going stock! Haha. It's all a great experience overall.
Post by: sushi on Fri, 19 August 2016, 10:50:32
Hype --> Disappointment --> True Love.So the disappointment was stock?
Just under a month with my HHKB and gone from excited, to feeling ripped off, and now really appreciating the beauty of the design behind this little kb.
I just installed Hasu's controller and lubed up the sliders - lubing really makes they key presses feel more refined and 'thockier'.
No, stock is actually pretty great - it just takes a while to really appreciate.
The HHKB looks so amazing in photos and is loved by so many that when you first get it, there's a lot of things at face value that disappoint:
- It's light as a feather if you've coming from a board with a metal plate
- The case is creaky and feels like a toy
- The USB hub and port placement seem like an afterthought
- Lack of rubber feet in the back gives it a tendency to slide around
- Topre just feels like rubber dome
But after using it for about a month, the experience really grows on you and you start to discover the really small details that make this board a pleasure to use. I use the hhkb a lot with my laptop and as a result, I move it around a lot. Instead of feeling light and cheap, the weight is now a benefit. Topre switches like many have said, just take some time to get used too, but after, you'll wonder why you bothered typing on anything else. The PBT keycaps that come stock with the hhkb are also top notch in quality and feel - combined with the topre domes just makes it a pleasure to type with.
It's a really pretty amazing keyboard that really only shines after using it for a while. If it weren't for all the hype around it, I'm not sure how many people would buy an HHKB after just their first hands on impression.
tl;dr - fell in love with the hhkb, just have to get past the first date.
I think my transition was helped by my Realforce as I went MX Clears > 87U 55g > HHKB JP (silenced and lubed) > HHKBBT.
With MX Clears, the bump was too harsh for me, so going to the 87u helped because it's still a nice, harsh bump but it's topre... Getting there. I then became the second owner of a silenced and lubed JP, it was super good but perhaps too soft (not sure that's the right word, there wasn't as much as a bump as I wanted). I finally took the dive and imported a BT, and everything is perfect about it. The sound and feeling is the best I've ever tried, and it's making me not want to go near MX now (which is a problem as my design work is all based on MX :rolleyes:).
Looks like that's the right way to transition :D
Just saw your board and the Founder's Edition - Very cool! Think part of what really makes the HHKB feel the way it does is the plastic case/plate - wonder how much of that feel a carbon fibre plate will capture.
It's a pretty crappy problem though - getting excited about custom keyboards but without a topre equivalent to work with.
edit: Also - how is the HHKB BT? I know the case is different, but is the typing feel different than the stock boards as well?
Post by: sushi on Fri, 19 August 2016, 10:52:55
My next project is to lube and silencing one of my HHKB, hope it will improve the typing feeling.
Word of warning, I lubed and love mine right now but make sure to lube evenly and completely around the guides.
I had a few stems that didn't receive enough lube and ended up feeling sticky, scratchy, and developing the Topre rubber dome fart. Went back and applied more lube and everything has been perfect since.
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sun, 21 August 2016, 12:01:42
Post by: Baddy126 on Sun, 21 August 2016, 12:14:08
back into the hhkb game again. snagged a cheap hhkb pro2 for $100 excluding shipping :p :p
How do people get such good deals on hhkb :eek: :eek:
Post by: milchek on Thu, 25 August 2016, 23:34:24
back into the hhkb game again. snagged a cheap hhkb pro2 for $100 excluding shipping :p :p
How do people get such good deals on hhkb :eek: :eek:
Yeah, I know. Here in Australia there ain't many for sale, I went to eBay and got one from Japan with free shipping, but still a very expensive purchase. Well worth it though, great build quality (aside from the USB mini input choice which I'm afraid is going to get loose).
I don't have any mod plans for mine except the red/blue keycap replacements. It's too expensive to mess with (for now) :))
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:17:40
Hi guys,
I have been using the HHKB type S for a few months and now Im considering getting another normal HHKB. Do you guys think it's worth getting another one just for the sound and feel. Anyone can advise on any differences with the feel and sound of the 2 keyboards?
There's not much room for variation in sound between two HHKBs.
However there could be some slight variation, especially as one has had usage for a few months, and the other will be brand spanking new.
Still, with equal usage there shouldn't be much between them.
Post by: xondat on Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:32:08
edit: Also - how is the HHKB BT? I know the case is different, but is the typing feel different than the stock boards as well?Well I haven't used a stock HHKB yet, but comparing it to the lubed/silenced JP, they're different keyboards with their unique advantages and disadvantages. I'm getting bored of the sound of my BT, so I might silence it, but why not just buy a Type-S or Pro 2 with purple sliders? I think I'll leave it stock, and use it occasionally, but I plan on getting a 2nd HHKB soon and either making it Type-S or lubed/purple sliders.
Post by: the_marsbar on Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:39:22
Hi guys,
I have been using the HHKB type S for a few months and now Im considering getting another normal HHKB. Do you guys think it's worth getting another one just for the sound and feel. Anyone can advise on any differences with the feel and sound of the 2 keyboards?
There's not much room for variation in sound between two HHKBs.
However there could be some slight variation, especially as one has had usage for a few months, and the other will be brand spanking new.
Still, with equal usage there shouldn't be much between them.
I'm just curious here, but did you see that he asked about Type-S vs. "normal" HHKB (I'm assuming he means Pro 2)?
I think there's a pretty big difference between Type-S and regular Pro 2. I did some recordings of how they sound when typed on (also comparing Pro 2 with Hypersphere's rings), which you can find here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83292.0
I also think they feel quite different. I prefer silenced (Type-S or with Hypersphere's rings) over a stock Pro 2.
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 27 August 2016, 05:59:05
Hi guys,
I have been using the HHKB type S for a few months and now Im considering getting another normal HHKB. Do you guys think it's worth getting another one just for the sound and feel. Anyone can advise on any differences with the feel and sound of the 2 keyboards?
There's not much room for variation in sound between two HHKBs.
However there could be some slight variation, especially as one has had usage for a few months, and the other will be brand spanking new.
Still, with equal usage there shouldn't be much between them.
I'm just curious here, but did you see that he asked about Type-S vs. "normal" HHKB (I'm assuming he means Pro 2)?
I think there's a pretty big difference between Type-S and regular Pro 2. I did some recordings of how they sound when typed on (also comparing Pro 2 with Hypersphere's rings), which you can find here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83292.0
I also think they feel quite different. I prefer silenced (Type-S or with Hypersphere's rings) over a stock Pro 2.
Oops I missed the fact that one is Type S and the other not.
Yes, different sounds.
Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 29 August 2016, 00:18:12
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
Post by: sushi on Mon, 29 August 2016, 09:03:42
does anyone use their hhkb pro2 on top of an 11" macbook air? How does it fit? I'm fairly certain the macbook air's 11 and 13 as well as the macbook pro all have the same keyboard size but it looks like the 11" air has no indent in the aluminum plate like the other two.
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
Not my photo, but looks like it'll fit just fine :)
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Post by: OfTheWild on Mon, 29 August 2016, 23:20:25
Post by: TopreFan333 on Wed, 31 August 2016, 23:52:54
does anyone use their hhkb pro2 on top of an 11" macbook air? How does it fit? I'm fairly certain the macbook air's 11 and 13 as well as the macbook pro all have the same keyboard size but it looks like the 11" air has no indent in the aluminum plate like the other two.
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
I've tried it, but it feels awful. The keyboard just ends up way too high off the desk, and just feels pretty jury-rigged to me. I'd just as soon put the HHKB on the desk in front of the Air, maybe propping the laptop up on a couple books or something for better sight lines to the screen.
Post by: Ciemnika on Thu, 01 September 2016, 06:40:22
does anyone use their hhkb pro2 on top of an 11" macbook air? How does it fit? I'm fairly certain the macbook air's 11 and 13 as well as the macbook pro all have the same keyboard size but it looks like the 11" air has no indent in the aluminum plate like the other two.The width of the keyboards on Macbooks is the similar within a very small amount. Here's my HHKB on a rMBP15 https://www.instagram.com/p/BJLild5BEdz/?taken-by=ciemnika (which I know isn't what you asked about specifically), but what I can tell you is that positioning and avoiding slippage is the key if you don't want to bump the keys. However, you can disable the keyboard with a script (https://gist.github.com/JohnMurray/1869020). You'll get an error but the disable / enable will still work.
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
Post by: Gatix on Thu, 01 September 2016, 06:55:02
does anyone use their hhkb pro2 on top of an 11" macbook air? How does it fit? I'm fairly certain the macbook air's 11 and 13 as well as the macbook pro all have the same keyboard size but it looks like the 11" air has no indent in the aluminum plate like the other two.The width of the keyboards on Macbooks is the similar within a very small amount. Here's my HHKB on a rMBP15 https://www.instagram.com/p/BJLild5BEdz/?taken-by=ciemnika (which I know isn't what you asked about specifically), but what I can tell you is that positioning and avoiding slippage is the key if you don't want to bump the keys. However, you can disable the keyboard with a script (https://gist.github.com/JohnMurray/1869020). You'll get an error but the disable / enable will still work.
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
Disabling the keyboard by unloading the kernel extension might be problematic. Instead you can use Karabiner to disable the internal keyboard when an external keyboard is plugged in.
Post by: the_marsbar on Thu, 01 September 2016, 08:21:23
I'd say it works just fine. Currently I use the keyboard with a MBP 15", which also works great. For me, the keyboard doesn't feel too elevated.
Furthermore, it's not necessary to disable the internal keyboard. Just attach some layers of thick tape to the bottom of the keyboard (barely noticeable), such that it won't hit the keyboard of the Mac. I've used this approach since I got my keyboard, and it's perfect. I can highly recommend 3M helicopter tape, which will also work as feet which stick better to the surface. I posted a photo a while ago, but I can't find the link (I think there's a thread here somewhere on the topic).
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 01 September 2016, 18:30:50
Post by: ideus on Thu, 01 September 2016, 18:37:07
does anyone use their hhkb pro2 on top of an 11" macbook air? How does it fit? I'm fairly certain the macbook air's 11 and 13 as well as the macbook pro all have the same keyboard size but it looks like the 11" air has no indent in the aluminum plate like the other two.
Anyway, just curious. I'll probably have to make a trip to the apple store to test some stuff out for compatibility anyways.
Not my photo, but looks like it'll fit just fine :)
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It looks like a tank on Wall St., totally out of place. :p