Remembrance

[Tym]

Lest we forget

[inteli722]

There will be a time when our descendants
Return to reclaim what is our right.
With honor swelling their hearts, they will crusade
Against the dark emotions that have dimmed.
The Inner Sphere for so long.
But with the glory comes responsibility;
Without a pure soul we cannot give sight
To their blind lives, but will only blind ourselves.
          -- The Remembrance, Passage 3, Verse 41, Lines 1-8


This is what I think of when I think Remembrance. If it refers to something else, then I'm sorry if I'm being disrespectful.

[Puddsy]

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EDIT: On topic, I usually send a care package to a buddy of mine in Afghanistan on Veteran's day. It's an important day in my family. My grandfather ran the foundry at Los Alamos.

[dragonxx21]

Lest we forget. Let me go get my poppy.

[nubbinator]

In addition to being a day of remembrance for veterans in the U.S. and a remembrance of the tragedy that is war in Europe and some other parts of the world, it's also got one bright spot.  It's the day one of the great authors was born, Kurt Vonnegut.

[Linkbane]

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EDIT: On topic, I usually send a care package to a buddy of mine in Afghanistan on Veteran's day. It's an important day in my family. My grandfather ran the foundry at Los Alamos.

Now you can never change your profile picture.

tp, the reason you're being ridiculed (yet again) is because instead of googling what "remembrance" referred to, or simply not bothering to post, you decided (due to your childish, histrionic personality) to make a needlessly obtuse post.

^^ didn't read..  but given the subject of the OP.. I think you should probably take your trolling elsewhere.

Thanks for demonstrating my point about your stunted level of intellect and maturity more concisely than I could have ever done.

So next time we see a thread title we ought to look up the meaning on google, thanks Malphas. Indeed, please stop trolling.

Anyways, this topic ought not be filled with petty personal affairs; that's not what any of this is about.
It is a day of silence, a day of reflection. My sadness for all those killed in useless wars waged for the power of one man, the wealth of a country. Pride for those who fell protecting their citizens, their ideals, and others.

[MOZ]

[eth0s]

What shocks me is not that an adult American does not know that Veteran's Day = Armistice Day = Remembrance Day = the day we remember the armistice that ended WWI on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918, but that the ignorant fool is so proud of his ignorance.  This is the absolute worst trait of the 'Muricans:  their pride in their own ignorance.  (And their concomitant belief that morons like themselves are competent to run the government.) 

[rowdy]

Lest We Forget.

In Australia this is always observed at 11:00 on 11/11.  So, today (Monday).

[nubbinator]

What shocks me is not that an adult American does not know that Veteran's Day = Armistice Day = Remembrance Day = the day we remember the armistice that ended WWI on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918, but that the ignorant fool is so proud of his ignorance.  This is the absolute worst trait of the 'Muricans:  their pride in their own ignorance.  (And their concomitant belief that morons like themselves are competent to run the government.)

Let's not make this a nationalistic thing hating on different countries and people from different countries.  Let's just agree to report and ignore the idiots and treat the holiday with the respect that it commands.

[Michael]

Let's not make this a nationalistic thing hating on different countries and people from different countries.  Let's just agree to report and ignore the idiots and treat the holiday with the respect that it commands.

[longweight]

I take part for the memory of the World War veterans on all sides.

[Puddsy]

Let's not make this a nationalistic thing hating on different countries and people from different countries.  Let's just agree to report and ignore the idiots and treat the holiday with the respect that it commands.

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[eth0s]

What shocks me is not that an adult American does not know that Veteran's Day = Armistice Day = Remembrance Day = the day we remember the armistice that ended WWI on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918, but that the ignorant fool is so proud of his ignorance.  This is the absolute worst trait of the 'Muricans:  their pride in their own ignorance.  (And their concomitant belief that morons like themselves are competent to run the government.)

Let's not make this a nationalistic thing hating on different countries and people from different countries.  Let's just agree to report and ignore the idiots and treat the holiday with the respect that it commands.

Well, I wasn't hating on any other country.  As an American, I feel it's every American's duty to point out the gross ignorance of 'Muricans like tp4, because such ignorance is dangerous to us all.  However, I guess tp4 did us a favor today, by reminding us why we need holidays like Veteran's Day, so that we can remember and honor sacrifice and courage.  Maybe he will understand that people actually died defending his 'Murican freedom. 

[hashbaz]

Thread cleaned.  Let's talk about honoring and remembering veterans.

[tp4tissue]

Thread cleaned.  Let's talk about honoring and remembering veterans.

Thanks hashbaz.. I apologize for my fan club's behavior..

Veterans day commemorates WWI..

We should also remember that it was inconclusive. as unresolved tension with Germany which the Nazis' exploited ultimately brought upon WWII..

Winning a war is not so simple...

In remembrance of sacrifice, of victory, and of irresolution. lest we forget.. and repeat..

[rowdy]

In war, there are no winners.

Just survivors.

[Elrick]

Winning a war is not so simple...

In remembrance of sacrifice, of victory, and of irresolution. lest we forget.. and repeat..

How many wars that have been conducted since the Treaty of Versailles with Germany, on 28 June 1919?

Have lost 2 uncles and 8 cousins in the Second WWII.  Then my brother and 2 cousins in Korea and Vietnam.  It seems all the governments love to commit lives for their own selfishness because it avoids the necessary truth of why the need to kill and torture on a perpetual basis?

It seems we all like to forget and repeat the same old hatreds and mistakes.  Maybe ONE day the human race will evolve into something greater than what it is now, but that might seem way beyond my life span or my children's.

[tp4tissue]

Winning a war is not so simple...

In remembrance of sacrifice, of victory, and of irresolution. lest we forget.. and repeat..

How many wars that have been conducted since the Treaty of Versailles with Germany, on 28 June 1919?

Have lost 2 uncles and 8 cousins in the Second WWII.  Then my brother and 2 cousins in Korea and Vietnam.  It seems all the governments love to commit lives for their own selfishness because it avoids the necessary truth of why the need to kill and torture on a perpetual basis?

It seems we all like to forget and repeat the same old hatreds and mistakes.  Maybe ONE day the human race will evolve into something greater than what it is now, but that might seem way beyond my life span or my children's.

well. On an individual basis. it is easy to forget because our lives are short relative to our "history"..

Governments are head representatives of resource struggles..  At the cost of lives they preserve your (arbitrary) claim to the soil that you stand on..

we are all in part responsible. there is no one villain or victim..

I feel for your lose and the sacrifice your close ones have made...

[rowdy]

History is written by the winners.

[tufty]

Indeed it is.  However, Armistice day celebrates the sacrifice made by those on all sides.  It's not about winners or losers.  It's about this:

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys!–An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,–
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

[Tym]

To die for ones country