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ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 16:33:19 »
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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 17:29:33 »
It's better than coal, we have not figured out how to dispose of the waste properly though. All those big brains over all those years and the best solution they can come up with is a cement hole in the ground? Come on.

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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 21:05:34 »
Yea, it's pretty scary that they haven't actually figured out how to contain the stuff long term.

For example, just by being a state hosting n00q_ular waste, THE ENTIRE STATE is getting a higher dose of radiation.  Armor penetration @ Max lvl.


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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 21:23:20 »
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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 21:30:28 »
Just get Elon to shoot it into space for us.

Problem solved. Bring on the Nuc Plants.

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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 21:46:05 »
Just get Elon to shoot it into space for us.

Problem solved. Bring on the Nuc Plants.

Hahahahahah...


U realize, IF one of those rockets fail..  we would've n00q_ed ourselves ?

Also, the payload may be too heavy.


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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 22:02:02 »
Just get Elon to shoot it into space for us.

Problem solved. Bring on the Nuc Plants.

Hahahahahah...


U realize, IF one of those rockets fail..  we would've n00q_ed ourselves ?

Also, the payload may be too heavy.


My payload is too heavy.

Also Elon wouldn't let us down.

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 23:45:09 »
We've shot nuclear material into space several times now, just not in large quantity.


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Not only have we not figured out a way to store it, all attempts thus far have fallen short and fixing it has been an issue. It's a bit BS to complain about driving our grandkids into the poor house but perfectly okay to leave them this mess to clean up... If they can. Also major cleanup is costly as hell, so it will drive them to the poor house. Of course there's never enough time or money to do it right the first time but always is the second time... If it impacts the right people at least, which it won't. How about instead of kicking the can down the road and creating massive problems for others later we simply deal with it now?

Second, when you screw up, and nature sure has a great way of proving how imperfect your perfect engineering actually is, it's not an oops sorry. This will be a lingering problem for a LOONG, LOONG time and covering a large area. Say what you will about solar or wind, but any catastrophe pales in comparison. For those who claim it is safer now than before, humans are always part of any equation. Have you actually looked at the number incidents and attacks on these facilities, it's not exactly miniscule, look here and here. It's a LOT higher than people realize and guess where much of the blame falls? Not nature or the technology it's the people.

Remember, all of this is usually built by the lowest bidder. I know someone who worked QA on cooling systems and more often than not if something was questionable they got slipped a little extra and it magically passed. Have you seen the Scotland plant they want to restart? It's 50 years old and hundreds of cracks, but they want an exemption. We all know when they exceed that new safety standard they will simply once again seek a newer less stringent exemption next time. They will repeat this until it either becomes cost inefficient or it blows up in their face. Why? Because this is how they run things, make as money as you can for as long as you can and then you walk away, claim bankruptcy and let the public pay again to clean it up. If you take into account the entire cost from start to cleanup, it's not cheaper by any stretch of the imagination. It's only cheaper if you ignoring the after care, which the companies always do.

I think the technology has merit, but not in its current form, it's too dangerous and humans are too reckless. You can blame Chernobyl on Russian politics, that may have been a catalyst but don't forget what actually caused the blow itself, simple cost cutting and people pushing it's limits (hello Scotland!). But of course we wouldn't do anything (PG&E electrical grid fire in California) like (BP Deepwater Horizon) that (Boeing 737 Max) would (coal ash ponds) we (Flint water)?
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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 10:51:17 »
The only rich Jpn guy Tp4 knows (networth 50m+) immigrated a total of 9 mothers+babies from his family branch to the USA post Fukushima. -none of them even lived near fukushima-

Called him up after watching Chernobyl , Of course he neither confirmed nor denied any knowledge of continued radiation problems, but he did say that all 9 mothers + babies are still in the USA,  8 years later, quote: "they like the weather".

So,  what do des rich-people know that they arn't telling us peasants..

Of course if you youtube it,  the previous mayor of the jpn district tells russian news that it's all been covered up, and that there is significant rise in radiation related sickness among residents. Medical doctors/services have been instructed by jpn secret police to not record medical issues as potentially caused by radiation.

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 11:25:21 »
PRISM reactors look promising in the near term. One huge benefit would be recycling radioactive waste to generate more power and reduce radiotoxicity from hundreds of thousands of years. If this tech makes it and can make a sizable difference on the waste stockpile then I'd be all for more nuclear power.

https://nuclear.gepower.com/build-a-plant/products/nuclear-power-plants-overview/prism1
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 11:48:30 »


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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 03:25:42 »
Now if we were able to control and maintain a nuclear fusion with a viable source feed, we’d be onto the best thing since sliced bread.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 04:13:27 »
Make a safer reactor, make it as safe as you want, some executive will ignore safety protocols because it costs too much

Per Wikipedia (who has sources)
"On 5 July 2012, the National Diet of Japan Fukushima Nuclear Accident Independent Investigation Commission (NAIIC) found that the causes of the accident had been foreseeable (so was Chernobyl), and that the plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), had failed to meet basic safety requirements such as risk assessment, preparing for containing collateral damage, and developing evacuation plans. On 12 October 2012, TEPCO admitted for the first time that it had failed to take necessary measures for fear of inviting lawsuits or protests against its nuclear plants."

Meanwhile, TEPCO, while still being bailed out by Japanese gov, actually bragged about profits last year and is still running reactors.
It's not the technology that is the problem, it's the people, even if you could solve every other problem with this sort of power generation, the people in charge will find a way to screw it up because someone is always willing to cut a corner to make a buck.

By the way,
If you haven't followed it, early reports downplayed it heavily and people stopped paying attention (which was by design), however, as time has gone Fukushima has creeped up and now ranks a 7 on the nuclear disaster scale, a spot which only Chernobyl matches. Also, something that was kind of kept secret, they considered evacuating Tokyo. If they even considered causing that sort of panic and mass exodus you can bet it too is contaminated to at least some degree.
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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 08:30:22 »
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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 09:19:44 »
The Fukushima disaster is scary to read about. Disasters like this I think kind of outweigh the benefits from all of the nuclear power plants combined. I don't know what the right answer is to the question of nuclear power. I don't think we should give up entirely nor rely solely on this tech. I think better reactor and plant design will go a long way in mitigating human error but there will always be inherit risks involved. Regulation and promotion of safety culture are crucial as well. Cheaper power sources certainly hurt the feasibility of nuclear power but nuclear power helps reduce our carbon footprint. If only we could break our unhealthy and unsustainable addictions to electricity and fossil fuels  :))

Also I just read the last last reactor at Three Mile Island is shutting down. Whats crazy is how much of a commitment and expense there is to decommission a plant. Besides the usual decontamination work "the plan to dismantle large components won’t begin until 2074"  :eek: Welp I won't have to worry about that as more than likely I won't be around by then.

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 09:55:04 »
The Fukushima disaster is scary to read about. Disasters like this I think kind of outweigh the benefits from all of the nuclear power plants combined. I don't know what the right answer is to the question of nuclear power. I don't think we should give up entirely nor rely solely on this tech. I think better reactor and plant design will go a long way in mitigating human error but there will always be inherit risks involved. Regulation and promotion of safety culture are crucial as well. Cheaper power sources certainly hurt the feasibility of nuclear power but nuclear power helps reduce our carbon footprint. If only we could break our unhealthy and unsustainable addictions to electricity and fossil fuels  :))

Also I just read the last last reactor at Three Mile Island is shutting down. Whats crazy is how much of a commitment and expense there is to decommission a plant. Besides the usual decontamination work "the plan to dismantle large components won’t begin until 2074"  :eek: Welp I won't have to worry about that as more than likely I won't be around by then.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/08/us/three-mile-island-shut-down.html

The only way Reactors get funded is through public money which is in a hostage situation.

Nearly every reactor we build is significantly over-budget, they've never come online ON TIME, and the people of each state that put up the money never get their power bills lowered, it almost always increases, for the next 50-70 years.

Whereas Solar actually HAS reduced local power cost and comes online much faster.

The economics doesn't work out in the USA for n00q due to the cost of construction.

Even then, you are correct in pointing out that cleanup is impossible.  ALL n00q disasters are laden with coverups and they NEVER tell the populace just how bad it got.  The power behind the push for this technology is the doomsday branch of the military, and so they are well above the law in every regard.

In terms of Carbon,  Every new reactor  only reduce carbon emission by 0.007%.  Because mining uranium/ building reactors is itself extremely carbon intensive.



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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 10:05:37 »
Solar is getting popular in Australia. My house has a solar system. I know a few people that almost have no electricity bill from large solar setups. I think they are a good supplement to the grid, I believe they have a good service life of around 20 years or something.

BUT DAM I WANNA NUKE MY FOOD WITH NUKS!

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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 10:29:01 »
Solar is getting popular in Australia. My house has a solar system. I know a few people that almost have no electricity bill from large solar setups. I think they are a good supplement to the grid, I believe they have a good service life of around 20 years or something.

BUT DAM I WANNA NUKE MY FOOD WITH NUKS!

Dude, head to Jpn,  They're actually eatzn' n00ked food right now.

Major gov coverup on the impact. !!

For example after Chernobyl, over the years massive increase in cancer rates in Poland Romania, even as far as Sweden. (Sweeeden, has put a moritorium on n00q power, same with germany)

JPN is going to be living a nightmare for the next 50-100 years.  Of course, the secret police keep the hush hush. Expect massive increase in all cause mortality, mainly cancer and heart disease, increased suicide rate, rise in birth defects.

I know u don't berieve Tp4,  so here is an Old White guy explaining the situation..


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Gundersen also managed and coordinated projects at 70 nuclear power plants in the US.

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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 10:34:40 »
Solar is getting popular in Australia. My house has a solar system. I know a few people that almost have no electricity bill from large solar setups. I think they are a good supplement to the grid, I believe they have a good service life of around 20 years or something.

BUT DAM I WANNA NUKE MY FOOD WITH NUKS!

Dude, head to Jpn,  They're actually eatzn' n00ked food right now.


Major gov coverup on the impact. !!

For example after Chernobyl, over the years massive increase in cancer rates in Poland Romania, even as far as Sweden. (Sweeeden, has put a moritorium on n00q power, same with germany)

JPN is going to be living a nightmare for the next 50 years.  Of course, the secret police keep the hush hush.

I know u don't berieve Tp4,  so here is an Old White guy explaining the situation..


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Gundersen also managed and coordinated projects at 70 nuclear power plants in the US.


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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 16:38:31 »
B.S. cum lord n nuclear engineering,

I did not know this was an academic title.

I wouldn't be supprised by anything.

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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 16:50:34 »
B.S. cum lord n nuclear engineering,

I did not know this was an academic title.

I wouldn't be supprised by anything.


The reactor has leaked an equivalent of 168 hiroshimas worth of radz..  even 1x hiro worth of radz is crzy devastating.

It is STILL leaking today, They're running out of space on site to store the contaminated water which has reached 1 million TONS.   They have to keep pouring water on this because the fuel is still hot and Burning.

The entire surrounding taken as a whole, is Significantly more contaminated / radioactive TODAY , than during the initial incident.

Just trodding around Tokyo, their regular front office dirt measures as contaminated waste by US standards.

Of course, post haste, the government Raised the allowable soil radiation.

TO SOME EXTENT,  the coverup may be necessary ?

Because, how can a population realistically live in an irradiated pile ?

Essentially half of Jpn is now heavily contaminated.  The fukushima prefecture (state) is something the size of connecticut,  You can't clean something the size of connecticut.. That's a fool's errand..

UNLIKE chernobyl, you can't just abandon land in Jpn, because there isn't much of it to begin with. Add ontop of that the population density.


So, realistically, Either Japan is done as a soverign nation, ORRRR,  Everyone pretend like there is no disaster, and just carry on,  live to the best of their ability.

This is a tough question ..  The West is extremely critical of how the government is handling the media and destroying medical reports. 

But, heck , what else can they do. 

Then there's the olympics.. where the French are suing that Jpn officials bribed the committee w/ 2 million $$ through a thailand black fund.  Not sure why they're doing this, since france has its own bustling n00q industry.


Not saying don't go to the olympics,  buh,, u know, don't stay too long, try not to eat too much..

RadioA particles are bio-accumulating, and specifically the cesium binds to protein, resulting in what's known now as chernobyl Heart.. not that this would happen if you went to jpn for a few days. buhhh, well u don't know where that fish has been..  and there is an ever continuous cycle of radiation backwash which the weather cycles inwards.
 

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 18:27:41 »
Nothing better than a little MOPP 4 for that Sunday stroll to the park with your radioactive dograt.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 18:34:57 »
Nothing better than a little MOPP 4 for that Sunday stroll to the park with your radioactive dograt.

Not sure Jpn has a choice,  Forgetting that it's happening and moving on MAY be crazy, but still logical .

It's like getting cancer, To which approximately 1,000,000 new cancers will result of this accident in the nxt 30 years in jpn, mostly women/children.

Most will not have the means to leave Jpn, or rather Jpn wouldn't let them leave, so the only other option is to just accept that it's going to be tough,  and be happy they've been born at all.

What a morbidly morose circumstance.. 

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 21:02:47 »
Thanks for sharing that vid TP. I found it interesting.

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 22:06:15 »
Thanks for sharing that vid TP. I found it interesting.


Yea, A.G. makes n00qs so easy to understand.. it' no safe. period.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 00:18:08 »
It's really not that bad. It's much much safer than people think, because all they think of is Chernobyl, Fukushima, or 3 Mile. Because there's really not many examples of core meltdowns in history so there's just a few go-to's for talking points. You know how many have been killed second hand by other power sources? Hint: it's a lot.

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 00:33:43 »
It's really not that bad. It's much much safer than people think, because all they think of is Chernobyl, Fukushima, or 3 Mile. Because there's really not many examples of core meltdowns in history so there's just a few go-to's for talking points. You know how many have been killed second hand by other power sources? Hint: it's a lot.

That is not true at all.

Chernobyl has killed 1million + ,  Fukushima is worse than Chernobyl , predicted to affect 1 million +.  Tokyo is ffffkked..   They even have fractured families now, where the mother and children are sent off to live elsewhere, while the father stays in Tokyo for work.  Nooq p0wr is something that can fracture society overnight.

The list of meltdowns is the 5 reactors, 1 chernobyl, 1 3mile island, 3 @ fukushima, but the list of Nuclear accidents is far larger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country

Reactors also output radiation into the atmosphere/land both in the smoke and the cooling water.

Germany done the study on drawing concentric rings around reactors which proved definitively that the closer you are to the reactor, there is a spike in Leukemia.   Post Fukushima, they made the decision to shut it all down and go to renewable. 



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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 01:04:21 »

That is not true at all.

yes it is. all your facts are wrong and made up and you smell.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 06:20:12 »

That is not true at all.

yes it is. all your facts are wrong and made up and you smell.

TP's father smelt of elderberries.

SO nukes = no bueno.

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 06:33:43 »

That is not true at all.

yes it is. all your facts are wrong and made up and you smell.

TP's father smelt of elderberries.

SO nukes = no bueno.

ALSO big oil is also evil: https://imgur.com/gallery/vuTL0qK

OMG, WATER CRISIS, NUKED EARTH........ IRL FALLOUT LARP SESSION ANYONE?

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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 06:38:33 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 07:07:05 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management

Have you not heard, "the solution to pollution is dilution" - every mining company ever.


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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 08:02:38 »
Show me a company who will run the reactor safely, and I'll show you a company who will be bought out in 5 years by one who won't.

They can't help themselves.
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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 11:59:00 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management


Everybody's watching it except me
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:46:15 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management


Everybody's watching it except me

it's a bummer of a show

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 19:08:16 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management


Everybody's watching it except me

aight i have exams to do, see yáll later

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 19:12:06 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management


Everybody's watching it except me

aight i have exams to do, see yáll later

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 19:22:01 »


fanpeeps has such a way wit wurds.. he says so much without having to said anything at all .

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 20:26:45 »


fanpeeps has such a way wit wurds.. he says so much without having to said anything at all .



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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 22:28:47 »
tp must have just watched Chernobyl

i think it's a great option, just not until we've solved nuclear waste management


Everybody's watching it except me

it's a bummer of a show
We already know how it ends.  :))
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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 22:43:33 »

We already know how it ends.  :))


Thing that bums me out hte most,   is that Right now,  Because Tepco realizes that it's impossible to clean up their nuclear disaster to the LVL of emmision PRIOR to meltdown,  They just Changed the law such that now the allowable radiation limit is 20x higher.

Now, peeps might say, why should I care, that's in japan,  Oh but they're in the process of passing  the SAME Higher limits in the USA, now that Trump has the EPA.

We're so boned.. ..

Now, u might be all , Tp, Y you betray America.. say all dis' bad stuff bout 'Murica.


General Electric Nuclear is owned by HITACHI

and

Westinghouse Electric went bankrupt and is owned by TOSHIBA..


The NUCLEAR Powerplants being built in the USA NOW,  have ALL MAIN COMPONENTS including REACTOR,  BUILT IN CHINA.   The only job Onsite is the legos assembly.


Bringing back n00q will not create nearly the number of promised new jobs, as most of this stuff is all carted in.




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Re: ur thoughts on n00q_ular p0wr ?
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 11:12:50 »
OMG.. m0ar Coverup.

June 18th, A magnitude 6.7 earthquake struck off the coast of Yamagata and Niigata prefectures. (they're right next to fukushima)

The Niigata 7x reactor plant sent off a FAX, yes, Jpn peeps still love 2 Fax, citing abnormalities detected on the power supply for cooling spent fuel pools.

The prefecture gov obviously activated OMFG mode and Called up TEPCO..

THEN, Thennnn..  TEPCO, said, Oh NO, it was a Mistake, NO PROBLEM. Here's a New Fax, and we circled this box on ober here, NO-problems.  ALL is well. ___  OLYMPICS Y'all, GHet HYPE. !!


While this abnormality is probably not severe, but sigh............

The average Salary of dudes @ a n00q plant is $100,000 +,   These are not peeps who would make such a trivial error.   

While the problem may ultimately be inconsequential,  This is almost certainly a forced Coverup

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 14:24:23 »
Although you're talking about advantages, there's many disadvantages that come with it too. For example, if you take a tour of a nuclear plant, after it's used up it must be stored in containers so it can cool down. Once we run out, we run out ): .
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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 15:39:50 »
Although you're talking about advantages, there's many disadvantages that come with it too. For example, if you take a tour of a nuclear plant, after it's used up it must be stored in containers so it can cool down. Once we run out, we run out ): .

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 19:44:40 »
Renewable energy like solar and other energy sources help put a dent into the profitability of nuclear power. Unfortunately once the sun drops the nuclear plants have to ramp up to meet the demand so nuclear helps provide a solid base level of power. If every home had solar panels and battery storage this would make nuclear power less attractive with current tech.

Really interesting documentary on the IFR reactor. It looks like they were really on to some breakthroughs decades ago before funding was cut. I think this debate would look a lot different if current reactors in use were based on this concept from the start.



Edit: Also another interesting interview:



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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 20:06:56 »
Renewable energy like solar and other energy sources help put a dent into the profitability of nuclear power. Unfortunately once the sun drops the nuclear plants have to ramp up to meet the demand so nuclear helps provide a solid base level of power. If every home had solar panels and battery storage this would make nuclear power less attractive with current tech.

Really interesting documentary on the IFR reactor. It looks like they were really on to some breakthroughs decades ago before funding was cut. I think this debate would look a lot different if current reactors in use were based on this concept from the start.



There may come a time when mankind will have the technology to deal with the Full PROCESS of n00q_ular energy.

However, AS IT STANDS,   we are not even close to mastering the complete chain of events.

For example, the marketing for n00q is selling us on carbon footprint.   Their numbers always exclude MINING for the ore, AND  Storage of n00q waste.

Once you add those processes back in, the footprint is only 7% better than COAL FIRE.

We also have NO IDEA how to deal with the waste, it has to be stored for at least 100-250 THOUSAND years.   Modern civilization is only 10-15 thousand years old.

Washington State has TONS and Tons of Fukushima lvl n00q waste in basement of decommissioned plants, yet No one is willing to put up the money to clean it up.

This is why Wind/Solar/Oceanic and Geotherm  are the best way forward and can be operational within 2 years.

It takes 8-10 years to build a n00q reactor, to reach 1 Gigawatt

In the same amount of TIME, we can build 100 Gigawatt worth of Solar.

Time is a major factor because at our current pace on Carbon emission, we have 8-12 years before irreversible runaway effect takes place.



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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 20:21:48 »
Renewable energy like solar and other energy sources help put a dent into the profitability of nuclear power. Unfortunately once the sun drops the nuclear plants have to ramp up to meet the demand so nuclear helps provide a solid base level of power. If every home had solar panels and battery storage this would make nuclear power less attractive with current tech.

Really interesting documentary on the IFR reactor. It looks like they were really on to some breakthroughs decades ago before funding was cut. I think this debate would look a lot different if current reactors in use were based on this concept from the start. 



There may come a time when mankind will have the technology to deal with the Full PROCESS of n00q_ular energy.

However, AS IT STANDS,   we are not even close to mastering the complete chain of events.

For example, the marketing for n00q is selling us on carbon footprint.   Their numbers always exclude MINING for the ore, AND  Storage of n00q waste.

Once you add those processes back in, the footprint is only 7% better than COAL FIRE.

We also have NO IDEA how to deal with the waste, it has to be stored for at least 100-250 THOUSAND years.   Modern civilization is only 10-15 thousand years old.

Washington State has TONS and Tons of Fukushima lvl n00q waste in basement of decommissioned plants, yet No one is willing to put up the money to clean it up.

This is why Wind/Solar/Oceanic and Geotherm  are the best way forward and can be operational within 2 years.

It takes 8-10 years to build a n00q reactor, to reach 1 Gigawatt

In the same amount of TIME, we can build 100 Gigawatt worth of Solar.

Time is a major factor because at our current pace on Carbon emission, we have 8-12 years before irreversible runaway effect takes place.


Watch these vids all the way through. The IFR tech is orders of magnitude more efficient at consuming energy from fuel and the waste is continuously recycled. Not only does this reactor recycle the fuel it also converts the really bad waste elements to less bad radioactive elements which are much more manageable. This tech is the way to deal with the stockpile of spent fuel. This or keep it buried and pretend it doesn't exist.

Edit:
Solar can be expensive, requires a lot of space, and energy storage systems are expensive.  Also solar won't be good for some places, e.g. Alaska.
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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 20:53:34 »

Watch these vids all the way through. The IFR tech is orders of magnitude more efficient at consuming energy from fuel and the waste is continuously recycled. Not only does this reactor recycle the fuel it also converts the really bad waste elements to less bad radioactive elements which are much more manageable. This tech is the way to deal with the stockpile of spent fuel. This or keep it buried and pretend it doesn't exist.

Edit:
Solar can be expensive, requires a lot of space, and energy storage systems are expensive.  Also solar won't be good for some places, e.g. Alaska.


The breeder concept has been LONG explored, Every country that has tried it FAILED..

It only works on paper, but put AFK, it simply does not work. The reprocessing is simply too slow to be remotely economically viable.





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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 21 June 2019, 21:16:19 »

Watch these vids all the way through. The IFR tech is orders of magnitude more efficient at consuming energy from fuel and the waste is continuously recycled. Not only does this reactor recycle the fuel it also converts the really bad waste elements to less bad radioactive elements which are much more manageable. This tech is the way to deal with the stockpile of spent fuel. This or keep it buried and pretend it doesn't exist.

Edit:
Solar can be expensive, requires a lot of space, and energy storage systems are expensive.  Also solar won't be good for some places, e.g. Alaska.


The breeder concept has been LONG explored, Every country that has tried it FAILED..

It only works on paper, but put AFK, it simply does not work. The reprocessing is simply too slow to be remotely economically viable.


The tech works and the tech is here. PRISM is the commercial implementation of this original IFR tech developed by Argonne. This isn't the holy grail of energy production and there are still problems but there are still scientists interested in solving them. We need viable solutions to stem the tide of global warming. With a power source like this on Mars we could start terraforming the planet. Scientists needs more money and intellectual infrastructure. We could really do some cool stuff.
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