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Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 07:25:12 »
These two fat babies are currently contending for the exalted position under my desk (in an unwindowed case to boot, not like I wouldn't be anti-social enough to show off the Noctua beige).

I've seen a bunch of reviews and tests, starting from TechPowerUp, and the results are somewhat inconclusive. Perhaps RT wins on Intel and D15 on AMD? I truly don't know. Sometimes the one, sometimes the other leads by one or two degrees or decibels. While temperatures are closer to evenly split, RT usually comes off quieter.

Most people would probably call it even and decide on the basis of the price. Well, let's just say that wherever I can realistically buy from, the RT is priced on par with the single-fan Noctua, the D-15S.

What I like about the RT is more RAM clearance — both my mobos (main and backup) have problems in this regard, even without tall sticks, and I think I've already broken pins in CPU slots due to applying some physical force to help things fit, so I need to be careful. (Would probably be buying the D15S with an additional fan instead, to help compatibility, though that's taking a slight performance hit due to the asymmetric build.)

My top 1 priority is silence, as I'm a bit sensitive to sound and find it difficult to concentrate on my work (reading and writing, often at night with almost zero ambient) if I can hear anything from the PC. Almost anything. Likewise, during moments of silence in a game, I don't really like to hear fan brushes, let alone rotors.

Thus, a single large fan at 400-ish rpm while not doing anything overly CPU-intensive is gold, as is that particular fan's (TY-147B) relatively low max.

However, I've also heard that while Noctua already beats most other coolers on pure decibels, it also has a comparatively less annoying sound, which may be important for when you do hear it. I think it's safe to assume the RT would be more annoying with the same decibels as the D15.

I've looked at AIOs, but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to hear the pump if I concentrate, so that's out of the question until I have enough time and money to build a decent custom loop.

I can't really think of better air coolers, though there is supposed to be a comparably priced air Phanteks (C14PE?)  that's marginally better than these two, at least according to one large test I've seen somewhere. I don't know how it does that, looking almost exactly like my Gelid Phantom, with which I'm not quite happy, but anyway.

Finally, the TechPowerUp test, which is so favourable to the RT, does show the Noctua take back the lead by a single degree in the most extreme load + OC they did. Meaning the two fans are probably doing a better job at dissipation. This could perhaps become a bigger difference during a long gaming session @ all ultra with an OC'd CPU. But then, one can also buy another fan for the RT.

Does anyone own both of these coolers? (Or an AIO with a 100% inaudible pump?)

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 07:33:46 »
Go water.  These coolers are getting really heavy and dangerous for side mounting.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 07:43:08 »
I've got a Corsair H150i Pro in my PC and I can't say I've ever heard the pump once, AIO cooler pumps are typically smaller and more enclosed than custom loop pumps like D5s. Combined with the zero-RPM fan mode, I rarely hear much of anything while the system is just being used for standard desktop stuff.
     
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 08:12:27 »
i own an nhd15, it is actually much lighter than what i expected (still heavy but not that bad) although i ordered the wrong one (no amd brackets) so i could not actually use it. and it pokes through the side of my fairly normally sized case so pay attention to that. for the sound when you are talking such low differences raw dB will not be the whole story and from my experience yes Noctua fans do not whine like cheaper fans can and have a much less annoying sound to them even at 100%, my experience is very one sided though as i never had Thermalright  fans or heatsinks.
for watercoolling the pump can likely be isolated to reduce noise, and for both you can improve acoustics by insulating the case and adding fans (the more fan the slower they spin to move the same amount of air).
and if you have trouble with clearance on the D15 you can go with the RT and swap Noctua fans on it if the noise is unpleasant, best of both world
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 08:36:47 »
If that is its real name and not a joke, how could you not buy Le Grand Macho? Hopefully it comes with stickers that you can plaster on the case, too.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 09:49:02 »
Noctua D15 (normal version or S - one fan version) it a better option. You should only consider the Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme, which is the dual tower comparable with the D15... you will get exactly the same performance (1ΊC or none differences) 

I actually have a Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme, since I got it cheaper than the D15 ;)
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:19:05 »
Thanks, everyone. I've decided to add Dark Rock Pro 4 to the list. I don't like 12 cm, I don't like BeQuiet due to the ugly noise from the two SW3 hi-speeds I have in my system (clearly audible above 500 rpm and not really viable past 7000), but I've just seen a normalized-noise test in addition to some other tests, placing the Rock ahead of the Noctua. And, it's cheaper. And, it's easier to buy used. Still, I'd rather stick with either Noctua (in general) or the Macho. Gotta take some measurements and see if I can fit the D15 or at least D15S in the case.

Is there any AIO within the same price range that could be expected to make no discernible pump sound when working in office applications at night?

Interestingly, I've just taken a look at a review of my current cooler — https://whatnext.pl/test-chlodzenia-gelid-phantom-black/ — and it seems to not be that bad. So I guess I'll have to see. I was going to upgrade from the 8350K anyway, so let's see, perhaps my unit was a particularly bad case of the 8th gen's problems and a 9600/9700K will do better.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:58:39 »
Can I suggest you invest in some headphones?  Even if you don't have anything playing they will block out lots of fan/pump noise.  Also what load are you trying to cool?  If a heatsink can handle a 150W overclock better that's great, but it doesn't mean anything if you're only cooling 100W.
                               
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:12:29 »
Thanks, Orange. I already have a pair, though I prefer not to use them. I have a set of ear plugs I often have to use due to loud neighbours, lawn mowers, visiting families and all other sorts of force majeure. Best spent half a buck ever. ;)

I'm really a bit of a princess when it comes to wanting to hear exactly nothing from the PC unless focusing very, very hard, when working on the desktop or in office software or browsing the Internet, and only civilized brushes, wooshes and hums when gaming. No pulsating crap, no high-pitched nonsense. I've been capable of achieving this at various points before, but there always comes the time when either one of the fans goes band and you don't know which, or the whole thing for some reason, somehow, starts acting up as a whole.

It also depends where I sit. For example, I have sound mats glued under the surface of my desk, so when I hover above the desk surface, I hear practically nothing, but if I recline deep into my chair I suddenly hear a bloody grapeshot of ear-jerking rotor whine. Just by shifting my body position without even moving from my chair — probably the difference between having my head above the front intakes vs in front of them. Meaning the Silent (uh oh) Wings 3 hi-speeds probably have to go. But that's okay, I already have a pair of 20CM CoolerMasters for those slots. I'm pretty sure the CPU cooler is producing some ugly scratching low sounds similar to a lawnmower from a distance or a taxiing plane or whatever. And the rear exhaust — a very good 14cm Phanteks I got with my case (Enthoo Pro) 5 years ago — is getting loud above 800 rpm, so I' might as well splurge out and replace everything with NIP Noctuas and forget it for a couple of years.

And yes, the case is soundproofed. But it actually sounds worse closed than open, so it's probably the echo of a large and mostly empty closed chassis. I should probably buy a smaller tower now that I no longer need drive bays. Should be easier to avoid the echo, vibrations and everything else, especially if I manage to put it somewhere far enough from the desk.

Anyway, I can distinctly hear the CPU cooler under heavy gaming loads, and it's just too loud, so I'll have to replace it whether or not I replace the rest.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:51:26 »
That's even more intriguing - what heavy games do you play without music or noise?

If you really have two 20cm and a 140mm case fan can't you just use some ducting to skip the dedicated heatsink fan?  Looking at the graphs in the linked review your current heatsink doesn't benefit much from increased airflow which suggests it should work.  Get a 140 to 180/200mm adaptor and mount that on the back of the case for even better performance.  In the name of silence I'm assuming you've already removed the grille from that fan...
                               
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 00:47:37 »
case isolation should absorb echo and vibrations although make the whole system run hotter, and it looks like you could just upgrade the fans on your current heatsink from what i heard gelid makes some decent products, with good thermal paste and better fan you could get the noise down by quite a bit and be cheaper (and yeah thermal paste can make a fairly large difference, up to 5C in normalized tests)
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 02:57:14 »
**** AIOs. Air is fine. I love my d15, and the mounting is solid and easy.
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:20:22 »
I'm really a bit of a princess when it comes to wanting to hear exactly nothing from the PC unless focusing very, very hard, when working on the desktop or in office software or browsing the Internet, and only civilized brushes, wooshes and hums when gaming. No pulsating crap, no high-pitched nonsense. I've been capable of achieving this at various points before, but there always comes the time when either one of the fans goes band and you don't know which, or the whole thing for some reason, somehow, starts acting up as a whole.

It also depends where I sit. For example, I have sound mats glued under the surface of my desk, so when I hover above the desk surface, I hear practically nothing, but if I recline deep into my chair I suddenly hear a bloody grapeshot of ear-jerking rotor whine. Just by shifting my body position without even moving from my chair — probably the difference between having my head above the front intakes vs in front of them. Meaning the Silent (uh oh) Wings 3 hi-speeds probably have to go. But that's okay, I already have a pair of 20CM CoolerMasters for those slots. I'm pretty sure the CPU cooler is producing some ugly scratching low sounds similar to a lawnmower from a distance or a taxiing plane or whatever. And the rear exhaust — a very good 14cm Phanteks I got with my case (Enthoo Pro) 5 years ago — is getting loud above 800 rpm, so I' might as well splurge out and replace everything with NIP Noctuas and forget it for a couple of years.

Sounds like some really long cables and a PC in a closet or another room might be a good solution here.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:29:30 »
Sounds like some really long cables and a PC in a closet or another room might be a good solution here.

You can't beat 'server cabinet in the basement and fibre media converters' for noise isolation, but it isn't half expensive.
     
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:35:51 »
Sounds like some really long cables and a PC in a closet or another room might be a good solution here.
now that thunderbolt is no longer an intel/apple exclusive you could even go for a Linus style computer in the attic and 1 thunderbolt cable to a hub on the desk for a reasonable price and get absolute silence (Linus from Linus tech tips is a bit of a silence "freak" too it seems)
speaking of youtuber there is a channel called diyperks that is also run by a silence "freak" and he made a few computers with the explicit aim of them being as silent as possible, although his builds can be somewhat dangerous sometimes (he has gone as far as removing the casing and fan on power supplies) it may be a good source of inspiration if you want to go the fully custom route.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:44:57 »
It was a serious suggestion :) 

USB, HDMI cables should be able to run 4-5m without issue.

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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:11:19 »
Really depends on housing situation I guess. If you own the place, you're fine I guess since you can route between floors or rooms. If you don't, you'll be lucky to get ethernet. Having run a 10m flat cable upstairs, under the carpet runners, etc. I know that pain.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:00:40 »
Even adapting a standalone wardrobe with a big slow speed exhaust fan and tossing the computer in there sounds like less pain than the existing setup.

I've run PCs and servers in a wardrobe for noise reasons. Thankfully, it was big enough that I didn't need to worry about additional venting.

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:23:41 »
Oh definitely, though the easiest possible thing is to just accept that PCs make a little noise, but then, I work in computing, so am in rooms full of computers all day so my home PC is quiet in comparison.

Cupboards and wardrobes can certainly be good places to stash machines though, I've got a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny hidden in our TV cabinet, sitting on some foam baffles so it doesn't vibrate, running as a Security Onion and ntopng instance.
     
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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:53:38 »
Well, I have plenty of room on my wardrobes and book shelves — their top surfaces are like 1,5 ft / 45 cm away from the ceiling, and horizontal space is not an issue. Truth be told, I could also use some extra leg room (6'5'' tall stuck at the desk in the corner of the room). A cube case (enough clearance for a large CPU cooler and thick sound insulation) would work, or something along the lines of CM HAF. Bonus: no picking up dust from the floor (though there's plenty enough up there). Could probably place a slow-moving desk fan near the intake to help things along (if I can find one with an inaudible motor & bearing) or come up with something else that's not as expensive as a traditional custom loop. For example something that takes up some space and won't fit in a PC case and isn't normally done for computers but would work on top of a bookshelf/wardrobe without eating through my savings. Dunno — a bunch of sleeves perhaps? I'm pretty sure a 24 dbA-rated pump wouldn't be a problem from 2.5 yards away.

I've also thought about buying one of those really well soundproofed cases but using a bit more lively cooling equipment inside than is normally the case.

As for the ugly vibration-like sounds, sigh… I suck at physics so I can't guarantee I'm not spouting utter nonsense right now, but it kind of looks like the PC case is picking up vibrations from outside my block of flats (11th floor) — my fridge (yes, I'll be making sure to replace it with something dead-quiet when its time comes) inside and construction/services equipment on the outside. (The municipal services are always doing something at night.) And this is even though I keep the PC on a thick gym mat, the kind people use for washing machines or, well, gym equipment. (In addition to the sound mat glued under my desk surface.)

Thus, what I hear is on the one hand not from the computer as a source, it's not generated by the computer, but the computer seems to catch it like a bunch of diseases and amplify it, especially when it has like 5 or 6 fans, even high-qualiy fans, spinning even at low rpms. The case — Phanteks Enthoo Pro — isn't really ideal for vibrations/noise, I guess.

As for beefy CPU cooling, I'll be buying it anyway because the software I use for work could potentially use any amount of CPU power for what it does. Being CAT (computer-assisted translation) software, what it does is reading and writing databases all the time, real time, as you go on translating stuff sentence after sentence. And the software is pretty much single-core, badly underoptimized, etc. The files are often multiple, and large. I don't need a supercomputer for it by any means but reducing microlags and subjectively felt typing lag would go a long way towards preserving my sanity (whatever's left of it). Besides, any work-related excuse for more gaming power is good, of course.

I've run PCs and servers in a wardrobe for noise reasons. Thankfully, it was big enough that I didn't need to worry about additional venting.

Definitely an option for me. Could leave the door slightly opened, of course. Or install additional fans in the wardrobe itself and/or some kind of duct to help guide the air.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:38:30 »
if you think your pc is picking up vibrations from somewhere else you may have a bit too much play in some panels, maybe try tightening the screws or adding rubber/plastic washer to them but to be honest you case does not look that optimized for silence
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:02:22 »
Yeah, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro isn't a silence-optimized case. It was supposed to be flow-optimized, with plenty of room for large fans. In retrospect, perhaps I should've stuck with silenced cases. Still, at various points in time I've been able to keep this PC totally quiet.

I can't be sure but perhaps the sound proofing in the case is bending the wing when screwing it on, which could be counterproductive. Or perhaps there are too many cables on the other side. I've run out of rubber washers, so I'll have to buy a new supply.

Meanwhile I've just nailed a heavily discounted 9600KF for my z390 mobo, so I'll see if the current cooler (Gelid Phantom) isn't perhaps sufficient, in addition to replacing the 2x140mm fans from the front of the case, which have a lot to do with these vibrations, despite using rubber bolts instead of Screws. I've got a pair of CM 20cm fans (the other one is for top exhaust) that I haven't tested yet, and if they can't do the job, I'll probably just get two 20cm Noctuas and perhaps put rubber jackets on them.

Also: any new opinions on Le Grand Macho vs NH-D15? Or beefy single towers vs double towers? Or some sort of AIO that's actually on par with these super air coolers in performance and sound without being much more expensive?

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:39:33 »
Also: any new opinions on Le Grand Macho vs NH-D15? Or beefy single towers vs double towers? Or some sort of AIO that's actually on par with these super air coolers in performance and sound without being much more expensive?
from a fairly old linus tech tips video they tested a few AIO against an NH-D15 and found out that anything less than triple fan could not beat it in noise and thermals so either AIO tech as gone way up or the D15 is still your best bet or a discounted 360mm or above AIO if you can find and fit one
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:19:32 »
And a d15 doesn't crap out on you or make pump noise. I have my 3600x OC'd to 4.25ghz all core with a d15 in a fractal define case, and I can never hear it.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:23:08 »
And a d15 doesn't crap out on you or make pump noise. I have my 3600x OC'd to 4.25ghz all core with a d15 in a fractal define case, and I can never hear it.

To be a little pedantic, 4.25 isn't an OC. It's actually an underclock from max boost with a 3600x.

OC'ing on AMD isn't really a thing.

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:18:44 »
And a d15 doesn't crap out on you or make pump noise. I have my 3600x OC'd to 4.25ghz all core with a d15 in a fractal define case, and I can never hear it.

To be a little pedantic, 4.25 isn't an OC. It's actually an underclock from max boost with a 3600x.

OC'ing on AMD isn't really a thing.

Right now it isn't. And I do like an all-core OC for folding rather than max boosting a core at high voltage.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 15:21:40 »
And a d15 doesn't crap out on you or make pump noise. I have my 3600x OC'd to 4.25ghz all core with a d15 in a fractal define case, and I can never hear it.

To be a little pedantic, 4.25 isn't an OC. It's actually an underclock from max boost with a 3600x.

OC'ing on AMD isn't really a thing.

Right now it isn't. And I do like an all-core OC for folding rather than max boosting a core at high voltage.

Again, it's not an OC. Locking the clock at a speed less than max boost clock is not overclocking.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 01:06:36 »
And a d15 doesn't crap out on you or make pump noise. I have my 3600x OC'd to 4.25ghz all core with a d15 in a fractal define case, and I can never hear it.

To be a little pedantic, 4.25 isn't an OC. It's actually an underclock from max boost with a 3600x.

OC'ing on AMD isn't really a thing.
OC'ing isn't really a thing on both side right now, all cpu sold are pushed to their limits out of the box cause intel is still on skylake and AMD is trying it's hardest to take all the crowns, including gaming, so they both bin their cpu to get them as fast as possible. and although yeah it is an "under clock" from max boost, max boost is only reached on 1 core, here it is all cores, an all core load would not boos that high and definitely not for extended time, so for a folding workload, yeah that is giving extra performances and is above the normal clocks
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:38:18 »
Speaking of OC, I suppose a moderate one doesn't make much sense for a normal 9600KF (which I've just bought), given the 4.60 turbo clock and games would generally trigger turbo?


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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:49:13 »
Speaking of OC, I suppose a moderate one doesn't make much sense for a normal 9600KF (which I've just bought), given the 4.60 turbo clock and games would generally trigger turbo?

I've got a 9700KF in a Z390 Aorus Master and all I did was enable all core turbo in the BIOS. The turbo frequency of the 9700 is 4.9GHz, not 4.6GHz and that is reflected - system tells me all eight cores are at 4.9GHz.
     
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 10:53:58 »
In my personal rigs I will always run custom water cooling, just how I am as I like to build something tailored to me that ends up looking like a work of art (doesn't mean there aren't some beautiful air coolers on the market).  Now for my son's rig I stick w/ air cooling since he hasn't wanted to learn how to mod and custom cool his machine yet (he's only 5), but i do want to change out his spare part air cooler for either a Noctua or beQuiet tower cooler, since what is on there can cool his 3770 but not as well as I would like it to.
When it comes to fan noise, quiet and high performance at low RPM always means you're going to spend more on a good fan.  I do love Noctua's fans, especially their REdux and Industrial line (now there's Chromax to add to that line-up). But there are alot of high quality fans on the market that perform as well if not better, they're just not easy to get ie: NoiseBlocker fans and Gentle Typhoon AP-15's (which have been brought back by Darkside).
In the end and depending on the use case I normally lean towards recommending a good air cooler to a client or friend just to cut down on their maintenance, especially if they can't afford down time on their machines.  It's good to see competition in the space so we get better pricing on our end over-all.

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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:45:38 »
Go water.  These coolers are getting really heavy and dangerous for side mounting.

is that really the opinion now? i always thought the nh-d14 ran quieter and with better performance.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 07:00:28 »
Go water.  These coolers are getting really heavy and dangerous for side mounting.

is that really the opinion now? i always thought the nh-d14 ran quieter and with better performance.

Two different sides of the argument - both true.  Except the 'getting' dangerously heavy part - the 1.9kg (without fan) Thermal Right Ultra Extreme copper tower makes the Noctua look light at just 1.35kg and that was released in 2008.  See also the Scythe Susanoo at 1.56kg inc fan from 2011.
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Re: Noctua NH-D15(S) vs Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 07:38:38 »
I bought a Noctua air cooler 5+ years ago and it's been stellar. Not only that, they made a bracket available so I can run an AM4 CPU now.
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