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Offline iri

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 04:01:14 »

Perfect selection 4 the pandemic economy.

Yea but include all the tax it cost around 35k dollar ishh. Btw I choose the 1.5TC four-door version

TF????? $35K for a civic.....  man my Silverado LT is right there in that range...  You in the States?

Oh man, you can get a used DB7 for that kinda dough.
Yeah, just found a '03 one with 37K miles in the UK.
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 04:48:55 »
Oh man, you can get a used DB7 for that kinda dough.
You can, until there's a problem with it.

Just because it's old doesn't mean parts for it are cheap.
People make this mistake all the time with BMW, Mercedes and Porsche, they buy the car for a few thousand thinking they can fix it for the same price they fixed an old Camry and are shocked when the repair bill exceeds the cars value.
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 07:05:47 »
All my cars have been pre-owned, really don't see the appeal of buying a brand new car for it to depreciate immediately.

Ford Escort > MK4 Jetta GLI > MK5 R32 > B8.5 A4

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 09:49:37 »

Perfect selection 4 the pandemic economy.

Yea but include all the tax it cost around 35k dollar ishh. Btw I choose the 1.5TC four-door version

TF????? $35K for a civic.....  man my Silverado LT is right there in that range...  You in the States?

Oh man, you can get a used DB7 for that kinda dough.
Yeah, just found a '03 one with 37K miles in the UK.

From what i see here, its '05 one with 35k miles that cost 70k.

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 09:54:21 »
All my cars have been pre-owned, really don't see the appeal of buying a brand new car for it to depreciate immediately.

Ford Escort > MK4 Jetta GLI > MK5 R32 > B8.5 A4

Yea its depends. I just feel like both have their benefits and drawback as well.
A4 is really nice tho but i literary got no money to cover up when there's probelm.

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 10:01:46 »

i literary got no money to cover up when there's problem.


That is why you buy a Camry/Corolla or an Accord/Civic.
The difference in characterization of crime and who commits it skews what criminality looks like demographically. "What we're seeing so far is very similar to the process that we see with Islamic violent Jihad radicalization," said former FBI Assistant Director Frank Figliuzzi, "This wanting to belong to a cause greater than yourself, wanting to get affirmation from a group who may not even know who you are or ever met you. And then feeling like you're part of this deployment, this cause. You heard him say on the clip 'It's my job to protect this.'
No, it's not your job. But you think it is. And video last night shows him walking around roaming around with the assault rifle not really doing much of protecting anything." Figliuzzi made it clear that calling these characters "troubled" is a misnomer. "I would assert," Figliuzzi continued. "that it's time we stopped using the word ‘troubled’ with regard to white young people who act out like this and start thinking about the radicalized term that we used when people of color or people of Islamic faith act out like this. This is a radicalization process that's happening. It happened with the El Paso shooter in Texas. We kept hearing he was troubled. No, he was radicalized. And it's happening online."

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 10:54:57 »

i literary got no money to cover up when there's problem.


That is why you buy a Camry/Corolla or an Accord/Civic.
Or a Kia.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 03:17:39 »
Oh man, you can get a used DB7 for that kinda dough.
You can, until there's a problem with it.

Just because it's old doesn't mean parts for it are cheap.
People make this mistake all the time with BMW, Mercedes and Porsche, they buy the car for a few thousand thinking they can fix it for the same price they fixed an old Camry and are shocked when the repair bill exceeds the cars value.
what shocks me is the price gouging on some maintenance parts and how "modern" cars seem to be made to discourage fixing them especially the big German brands. some require motor out to change the belts or to remove the intakes to change the oil filter... seems like it would have been engineered to be a tiny bit more accessible
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 00:50:36 »
gawd damn EPA... I imagine sooner or later I'm going to have to spend $100 and get me an aftermarket wiring kit to allow permanently turning off autostop on my Silverado... it is driving me bonkers.. f'ing EPA / CA ??? (not sure maybe both)****ing hippies... stupidest feature ever on automobiles.    My Colorado didn't have this dumbness..but I guess all the chevy's do now??  ugh... I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8 if it is going to turn off at the stop lights unless you remember to turn it off every time you start the truck???   Also stop / start uses more fuel anyways.. and it is just wearing out the starter and whatever...     GM is going to GM .... also I had to (well chose to) spend $100~ to get rear wheel liners...because GM being the cheap miserable bastards they are, stopped putting them in the rear wheel wells as stock... 

oh well could be worse I could drive a Prius  :cool:

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 06:23:51 »
Most people say you get used to it after forgetting it enough times. A trailer tester also disables it, splicing a lightbulb into the line would probably trick the system into permanently (it works on Ford). One could also make the argument at least you have SOME interaction with the car, most today are so darn boring it's pathetic. LOL

Frankly this is a B.S. hacked together system and I'm sure they know it, they should have used a hybrid transmission. Let's face it a pickup would probably benefit more from a hybrid system than a car, it's not like there's no room for any of it or the weight would matter (markup is also not as much an issue). That's also probably why they did it, it's not the first time manufacturers sabotaged vehicles to get laws they didn't like changed, if you haven't seen it, go watch "Who killed the Electric Car". GM purposely sabotaged sales, Ford and Toyota both chose the worst selling vehicle they had (Ranger and Rav 4), they used the excuse of low sales numbers to show no one wanted them. GM also did similar with the Volt and Bolt, dealers hid them in the back of the lot.
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 07:54:07 »
I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8
this
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

-Ray Bradbury

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #61 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 08:52:20 »
I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8
this
Because it sounds good? Oh wait, they neutered that too.

But seriously last time I rented a pickup 2 (4wd F150 crew cab) I had to ask myself the same thing, especially when I thought it was a v6 the performance was so lackluster. It was day 3 when I realized it actually had a V8. I should have known by how much gas it drank., which only got worse when I realized I needed to absolutely bury my foot in it (oddly loong pedal travel) to get it to move decent at all. Yay single digit MPG.

Seriously, I hated pretty much every minute of driving it.
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 14:10:30 »

I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8
Because it sounds good? Oh wait, they neutered that too.

But seriously last time I rented a pickup 2 (4wd F150 crew cab) I had to ask myself the same thing, especially when I thought it was a v6 the performance was so lackluster. It was day 3 when I realized it actually had a V8. I should have known by how much gas it drank., which only got worse when I realized I needed to absolutely bury my foot in it (oddly loong pedal travel) to get it to move decent at all. Yay single digit MPG.

Seriously, I hated pretty much every minute of driving it.


How dare you guys be disappointing by , PHYSICS. 

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 15:19:03 »
I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8
this

lol.... I can tow a boat.. I don't have a boat but I can tow one.... I need a boat is the point really..
I mean WTF is the point of a 5.3L V8
this
Because it sounds good? Oh wait, they neutered that too.

But seriously last time I rented a pickup 2 (4wd F150 crew cab) I had to ask myself the same thing, especially when I thought it was a v6 the performance was so lackluster. It was day 3 when I realized it actually had a V8. I should have known by how much gas it drank., which only got worse when I realized I needed to absolutely bury my foot in it (oddly loong pedal travel) to get it to move decent at all. Yay single digit MPG.

Seriously, I hated pretty much every minute of driving it.


The Chevy is pretty quite inside... but the motor sounds pretty nice if you are next to the truck... has that nice boat motor sound that V8's tend to make.. Power is pretty good.. I'm actually getting 19~mpg which is ~2mpg less than my V6 Colorado.. and about 5mpg better than the Volvo 240 I drove in college and ~6yrs after....    I don't like fords personally... but the Chevy V8 is decent (minus the stupid autostop feature.... which thankfully you can disable with a single button on the console.. annoying it resets to on when you turn the truck off and start it again... generally 1st light I hear it stop and swear and then hit the button...  I'm trying to decide if I'm motivated enough to take the dash apart to install the $100~ autostop defeat kit... ???

also I need a dang boat...

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 02:12:45 »
Peace of mind: A new car will likely be more reliable than a used one, even though pre-owned cars are much more dependable than in the past.
While nearly everything about used cars costs less, buying a new car has its advantages. ... You'll need to wait several years to get them in used cars.

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 08:12:53 »
In recent years, car manufacturers have also made buying easy with long-term financing at very attractive rates.
The difference in characterization of crime and who commits it skews what criminality looks like demographically. "What we're seeing so far is very similar to the process that we see with Islamic violent Jihad radicalization," said former FBI Assistant Director Frank Figliuzzi, "This wanting to belong to a cause greater than yourself, wanting to get affirmation from a group who may not even know who you are or ever met you. And then feeling like you're part of this deployment, this cause. You heard him say on the clip 'It's my job to protect this.'
No, it's not your job. But you think it is. And video last night shows him walking around roaming around with the assault rifle not really doing much of protecting anything." Figliuzzi made it clear that calling these characters "troubled" is a misnomer. "I would assert," Figliuzzi continued. "that it's time we stopped using the word ‘troubled’ with regard to white young people who act out like this and start thinking about the radicalized term that we used when people of color or people of Islamic faith act out like this. This is a radicalization process that's happening. It happened with the El Paso shooter in Texas. We kept hearing he was troubled. No, he was radicalized. And it's happening online."

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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #66 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 08:20:00 »
well yeah but the enviromental toll of buying a new car is still huge, and old cars are so much more fun than most new ones, so why bother getting in debt for the next 5 years while you could not get in dept and have more fun and make it better for the environment(of course if you sell your old pickup/truck for a fast and small car this argument is null)?
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Re: Will you pick used car rather than new car?
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 16:20:23 »
if you are having to finance you'll want to be very careful a late model used car can often end up costing more overall due to increased finance costs.   Also with my new truck I don't have to pay for / deal with inspections for 4yrs...   I have roadside assistance / warranty ... just pretty much get in and drive.. very little (/touchwood) change of anything go wrong mechanically..