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Offline Kavik

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Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 10:04:05 »
Occasionally, I'll get a strange, annoying feeling deep in the rear of my armpit. I especially got this frequently a couple years ago and always assumed it was related to my shirt sleeves riding up too high and/or fatness preventing my arms from hanging completely straight down.

Last night, I woke up with a very severe case of this. The sensation pulsed from my armpit through my elbow and forearm and made my ring and pinky fingers tingle. The symptoms were so clear this time that I decided to google it and found Ulnar Nerve Entrapment or Cubital Tunnel Syndrome (not sure if they're exactly the same). It's basically like hitting one's "funny bone" (same nerve), but the sensation lasts longer and runs from the armpit through the whole arm. It also causes temporary grip weakness. I was able to straighten and rotate my arm in certain ways and get back to sleep. I presume it is caused by sleeping with one of my shoulders in total flexion (arm above head), which probably tugs on that nerve or puts pressure on it. At least, now I know what it is. Now that I think about it, I used to wake up with a noticeably weak grip sometimes that lasted for a few minutes; maybe it was related to this.

Does anyone else ever experience this? Apparently, it's no big deal if it's intermittent, but if it's long-lasting (weeks at a time) it can cause permanent muscle atrophy in the hand.

Basically I need to sleep in a full body cast or in zero gravity because this isn't the only problem I've had caused by sleeping position.
« Last Edit: Fri, 16 October 2020, 11:41:23 by Kavik »
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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 10:08:04 »
Surely there is some type of sleeping shirt that will keep you sleeping in a healthier position.  Your description sounds very uncomfortable.  I hope it can be resolved.

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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 16:00:45 »
If back-sleeping doesn't help .. Try m0ar Veggie. It could be arthritic in nature/ inflammation compressing nerve.

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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 10:14:27 »
I dislocated and fractured my right elbow in New Hampshire snowboarding about 22 years ago. It was a 4 hour ride to the hospital. I felt like I was hitting my funny-bone (ulnar) nerve for the entire time. I told the nurses to kill me (which they almost did with mass amounts of valium on top of the morphine). I woke up with my arm reattached but with chunks of bone all wandering in the area. I did a year of physical therapy, had a custom spring-loaded arm-straightener, and saw every hand and elbow doc in the Philly area. I was told that even if I got surgery, there was a chance I'd never straighten my arm again anyhow... plus they'd have to move my ulnar nerve to the outside of the joint. I opted to not have surgery.

Two decades later I still can't straighten my arm, it hurts like **** if I sleep on it, my pinky is always numb, etc.

Take care of that **** sooner than later, IMO.
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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 12:39:32 »
I dislocated and fractured my right elbow in New Hampshire snowboarding about 22 years ago. It was a 4 hour ride to the hospital. I felt like I was hitting my funny-bone (ulnar) nerve for the entire time. I told the nurses to kill me (which they almost did with mass amounts of valium on top of the morphine). I woke up with my arm reattached but with chunks of bone all wandering in the area. I did a year of physical therapy, had a custom spring-loaded arm-straightener, and saw every hand and elbow doc in the Philly area. I was told that even if I got surgery, there was a chance I'd never straighten my arm again anyhow... plus they'd have to move my ulnar nerve to the outside of the joint. I opted to not have surgery.

Two decades later I still can't straighten my arm, it hurts like **** if I sleep on it, my pinky is always numb, etc.

Take care of that **** sooner than later, IMO.


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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 18:07:17 »
I dislocated and fractured my right elbow in New Hampshire snowboarding about 22 years ago. It was a 4 hour ride to the hospital. I felt like I was hitting my funny-bone (ulnar) nerve for the entire time. I told the nurses to kill me (which they almost did with mass amounts of valium on top of the morphine). I woke up with my arm reattached but with chunks of bone all wandering in the area. I did a year of physical therapy, had a custom spring-loaded arm-straightener, and saw every hand and elbow doc in the Philly area. I was told that even if I got surgery, there was a chance I'd never straighten my arm again anyhow... plus they'd have to move my ulnar nerve to the outside of the joint. I opted to not have surgery.

Two decades later I still can't straighten my arm, it hurts like **** if I sleep on it, my pinky is always numb, etc.

Take care of that **** sooner than later, IMO.

That sounds awful. I can only imagine that moving the nerve to the outside of the joint would make it even easier to hit it on stuff.

Except for this particular episode, mine has never ventured beyond temporary discomfort, so I doubt there's anything to be done about it. I think I just need to be aware of it so that I can avoid putting myself in a position to irritate it. Mostly, this middle-of-the-night episode of pain elucidated what the weird feeling in my armpit has been all these years because it connected different symptoms into something concrete, so maybe it was a good thing.
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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 09:27:49 »
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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 09:30:13 »
I dislocated and fractured my right elbow in New Hampshire snowboarding about 22 years ago. It was a 4 hour ride to the hospital. I felt like I was hitting my funny-bone (ulnar) nerve for the entire time. I told the nurses to kill me (which they almost did with mass amounts of valium on top of the morphine). I woke up with my arm reattached but with chunks of bone all wandering in the area. I did a year of physical therapy, had a custom spring-loaded arm-straightener, and saw every hand and elbow doc in the Philly area. I was told that even if I got surgery, there was a chance I'd never straighten my arm again anyhow... plus they'd have to move my ulnar nerve to the outside of the joint. I opted to not have surgery.

Two decades later I still can't straighten my arm, it hurts like **** if I sleep on it, my pinky is always numb, etc.

Take care of that **** sooner than later, IMO.

That sounds awful. I can only imagine that moving the nerve to the outside of the joint would make it even easier to hit it on stuff.

Except for this particular episode, mine has never ventured beyond temporary discomfort, so I doubt there's anything to be done about it. I think I just need to be aware of it so that I can avoid putting myself in a position to irritate it. Mostly, this middle-of-the-night episode of pain elucidated what the weird feeling in my armpit has been all these years because it connected different symptoms into something concrete, so maybe it was a good thing.

I have to sleep with my arm straight out as possible under my pillow under my head. If I wake up with it folded in any odd position, the pain and numbness is set to high.
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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 11:54:37 »
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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 21 October 2020, 11:57:17 »
I have to sleep with my arm straight out as possible under my pillow under my head. If I wake up with it folded in any odd position, the pain and numbness is set to high.

TP4 went from a normally side-sleeper to back sleeper. This took many months of training.   The purpose was similarly arm issues, particularly Shoulder compressive pain.

In the back sleeping position. Tp4 rests hands right above the hip bone. Tp4 has tried leaving them at the side, but the elbows felt hyperextended in the mornings if left in that position.

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Re: Ulnar Nerve Entrapment
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 10:18:00 »
This morning was the third time this has been bad enough to prevent me from falling back asleep for an hour or two, although not as bad as the first time. I had to down some Aleve and Tylenol to doze back off. I guess it's time to see my doctor about it, even though he won't do anything useful. I've been off my thyroid hormone medicine for a couple weeks since it hasn't been refilled (no word from doctor about this. pharmacy says it needs doc authorization and then never fills it after requesting authorization). I've been reading that hypothyroidism is a risk factor for this, so maybe just getting my med refilled will resolve it.

I did try sleeping on my back last night, which helped at first. I'm not sure why I can't remain on my back since that's how I always sleep away from home (camping, friend's house, hotel, etc.). Once the issue starts, switching back to the supine position does nothing, at least not immediately.
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 11:10:58 »
Yeah. Get that **** taken care of. I have found that gabapentin does wonders for nerve pain (as well as being a mood stabilizer on the side). You can see a neurologist if your family doc won't try it.

Damn thyroid. Can cause so many issues. Blood test time.
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 22 October 2020, 11:59:23 »
Yeah. Get that **** taken care of. I have found that gabapentin does wonders for nerve pain (as well as being a mood stabilizer on the side). You can see a neurologist if your family doc won't try it.

Damn thyroid. Can cause so many issues. Blood test time.

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