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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 03:25:46 »
Meanwhile our entire government has resigned because some people's taxes were investigated more than other people's xD .
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 04:55:05 »
Meanwhile our entire government has resigned because some people's taxes were investigated more than other people's xD .
would it not be nice if they all did that? every time there is corruption, everyone is out. simple and efficient :)
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 18:46:40 »
Apparently a significant proportion of the Q-anon fruitcakes are having major psychological meltdowns as they realize that they had totally bought into an impossibly ridiculous propaganda campaign.

I wish that there was a simple way to coax them back into reality. As always, I would recommend reading serious, quality, fact-based books - but if they did that they would not have fallen into the rabbit hole in the first place.

Hopefully at least some of them are not permanently scarred.

PS - I am not saying this in a vacuum. My little brother was one of them.



 
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 19:02:38 »
Apparently a significant proportion of the Q-anon fruitcakes are having major psychological meltdowns as they realize that they had totally bought into an impossibly ridiculous propaganda campaign.

I wish that there was a simple way to coax them back into reality. As always, I would recommend reading serious, quality, fact-based books - but if they did that they would not have fallen into the rabbit hole in the first place.

Hopefully at least some of them are not permanently scarred.

PS - I am not saying this in a vacuum. My little brother was one of them.



 

That's what is the craziest thing, not all these people are braindead slackjawed dip****s. I know one man who is very smart, not susceptible to bull****, and although I disagree with almost all his views, he presents them in a researched and clear manner. Yet even in the 11th hour as the capitol burned he STILL vocalized his support of the Trump admin. I genuinly do not understand it, he's not an idiot. It cannot simply be sunk-cost there has to be a reason smart people who can think independently still choose to fall into this camp. I do not get why though. Perhaps it's a case of wanting to be the fastest sprinter at the Paralympics.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 19:31:32 »
Apparently a significant proportion of the Q-anon fruitcakes are having major psychological meltdowns as they realize that they had totally bought into an impossibly ridiculous propaganda campaign.

I wish that there was a simple way to coax them back into reality. As always, I would recommend reading serious, quality, fact-based books - but if they did that they would not have fallen into the rabbit hole in the first place.

Hopefully at least some of them are not permanently scarred.

PS - I am not saying this in a vacuum. My little brother was one of them.

That's what is the craziest thing, not all these people are braindead slackjawed dip****s. I know one man who is very smart, not susceptible to bull****, and although I disagree with almost all his views, he presents them in a researched and clear manner. Yet even in the 11th hour as the capitol burned he STILL vocalized his support of the Trump admin. I genuinly do not understand it, he's not an idiot. It cannot simply be sunk-cost there has to be a reason smart people who can think independently still choose to fall into this camp. I do not get why though. Perhaps it's a case of wanting to be the fastest sprinter at the Paralympics.


Look at it this way,  Tp4 doesn't think every one o' y'all gekhrs are braindead dips***s  but everyone one of y'all eat animal corpses that were raised in their own septic tank.   

To Tp4 it's SOOOOOoooo obviously incorrect and destroying the planet.   But you guys take it 1 bite at a time, everyday, despite ALL science, facts, practical logic pointing clearly in the other direction.

How SMART does someone have to be to not eat something that's been stewed in its own feces for 6-18 months.  ??   Yet, here we are..

 

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 01:29:41 »
TP, stop making stuff up a bit will you, ok eating meat is not great for the environment but ffs why do you talk about septic tanks now?
having been on farms and seen how the beef i ate was treated and killed i know that it is absolutely false, true i did not take picture so i can't show you.
and do you think that your TV buying addiction is not destroying the planet too?
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 07:37:16 »
TP, stop making stuff up a bit will you, ok eating meat is not great for the environment but ffs why do you talk about septic tanks now?
having been on farms and seen how the beef i ate was treated and killed i know that it is absolutely false, true i did not take picture so i can't show you.
and do you think that your TV buying addiction is not destroying the planet too?


Tp4 has made progress this year to curtail electronix purchases.  Last year Tp4 bought 3 tvs and 2 monitors.  This year, only 1 tv.   Tp4 also canceled his es920 order in solidarity to support the warnock / ossoff senate runoff vote.


As for CAFO,  what they give you a TOUR on is a Potemkin village like what the North Koreans do.

Check out the documentary "Dominion", for a realistic look in to the MAJORITY animal farming practices, they've got plenty of Australia scenes..

What you saw in the Potemkin village is factually incorrect.  Supply chain concentrates ALL livestock into the few major slaughter houses.  EVEN IF you buy from a grass fed, wild grazing farm,  their slaughter house is most likely the same one as the Live in septic tank farm one.  That segment is typically outsourced.   The contamination persists.



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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 09:09:30 »
Two things. First, there is no qanon.
There is Q, and there are the anons, who research topics they think relate to what Q has been talking about.
And I follow Q, and the anons, also -- and no, we don't consider the guy in horns to be a real 'anon' -- although, of course, since all the researchers are anonymous, well, who's to say? And curiosity is good, but he was seen stumping for antifa in Portland, is what I thought I'd read last night. No link of course, and I was too tired / too late (early) to be sure of what I read, but I stand by what I just said -- he's not with or for Q.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 15:39:02 »
Apparently a significant proportion of the Q-anon fruitcakes are having major psychological meltdowns as they realize that they had totally bought into an impossibly ridiculous propaganda campaign.

I wish that there was a simple way to coax them back into reality. As always, I would recommend reading serious, quality, fact-based books - but if they did that they would not have fallen into the rabbit hole in the first place.

Hopefully at least some of them are not permanently scarred.

PS - I am not saying this in a vacuum. My little brother was one of them.

Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality? A family member of mine has similarly been sucked in to the conspiracy world, and we're not quite sure what to do at this point... No amount of reasoning does anything, and they think that we are the ones who are being misled. What do you even do with that?

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 16:30:18 »
Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality? A family member of mine has similarly been sucked in to the conspiracy world, and we're not quite sure what to do at this point... No amount of reasoning does anything, and they think that we are the ones who are being misled. What do you even do with that?

We've got people that go to church, an equally unrealistic, disastrous fiction designed to ding society for money.

Macro, It seems alright as long as more people leave than goes in. 

Based on what I've seen of the Qanon cases, they're not people with long attention spans, which is why the soundbites pulled them in, in the first place.

As long as they don't get into any violence, it's mostly just time wasted on their end.  People waste lives watching game of thrones season 8, that's alrite.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 17:40:23 »

Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality?


I don't think so, but, to be honest, I haven't spoken to him in a couple of months. After the election was called for Biden, he put out a horrific "call to arms" Facebook post that advised "loading your guns" and "blood in the streets" as - "patriots" - "took back" - "their country" so I determined that I needed to remove him from my life until he re-engaged with reality.

For years (decades) my family has generally avoided conversations on politics and religion when I am around, so I didn't realize how far gone he was. One of my sisters and my cousin stay in closer contact with him and I haven't gotten any reports since the inauguration.

As you say, there is not much to do. The indoctrination carefully inoculates them against facts, reason, and logic.
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"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 29 January 2021, 15:33:17 »
There was a blurb today about how Ivana was the russian honeypot / handler.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 22:24:44 »
Thoughts on Q now?

I still research. Haven't been back here much because you all seem desperate to be amongst the 4-6% lost forever to communism.

Q was, and thus is, real. The game is still afoot. If I said what I actually thought you'd call me crazy ... and it sounds crazy, but the pipeline shutdown, the gamestop blowup -- it all figures into the plan.

 I hope you have a week's worth of food that can be cooked without power. I expect February to be wild, complete with outages of all kinds, and military involvement similar to Myanmar in its own way. Except our boys want to keep those who like their sleep, asleep. The second amendment has made America unassailable directly, but Fang Fang's outing has proven that infiltration is just as deadly. So when our military moves to retake America for the Constitution, and for liberty, we might not really even see much of that.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 02:08:41 »
Thoughts on Q now?

I still research. Haven't been back here much because you all seem desperate to be amongst the 4-6% lost forever to communism.

Q was, and thus is, real. The game is still afoot. If I said what I actually thought you'd call me crazy ... and it sounds crazy, but the pipeline shutdown, the gamestop blowup -- it all figures into the plan.

 I hope you have a week's worth of food that can be cooked without power. I expect February to be wild, complete with outages of all kinds, and military involvement similar to Myanmar in its own way. Except our boys want to keep those who like their sleep, asleep. The second amendment has made America unassailable directly, but Fang Fang's outing has proven that infiltration is just as deadly. So when our military moves to retake America for the Constitution, and for liberty, we might not really even see much of that.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 07:48:47 »
Thoughts on Q now?

I still research. Haven't been back here much because you all seem desperate to be amongst the 4-6% lost forever to communism.

Q was, and thus is, real. The game is still afoot. If I said what I actually thought you'd call me crazy ... and it sounds crazy, but the pipeline shutdown, the gamestop blowup -- it all figures into the plan.

 I hope you have a week's worth of food that can be cooked without power. I expect February to be wild, complete with outages of all kinds, and military involvement similar to Myanmar in its own way. Except our boys want to keep those who like their sleep, asleep. The second amendment has made America unassailable directly, but Fang Fang's outing has proven that infiltration is just as deadly. So when our military moves to retake America for the Constitution, and for liberty, we might not really even see much of that.

Think for yourself, do your own research. And be careful who you follow.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 08:03:53 »
I still research. Haven't been back here much because you all seem desperate to be amongst the 4-6% lost forever to communism.
i see 2 things in there:
are you still living in the cold war?
and what the **** is wrong with wanting to share? (i guess it is the part that you are taking offense to)
And be careful who you follow.
well do not follow any one person or one group but that is easy to say here, say that to the fanatics following trump, biden, clinton... and you may get hung for that offense to their god
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 08:31:18 »
Thoughts on Q now?

I still research. Haven't been back here much because you all seem desperate to be amongst the 4-6% lost forever to communism.

Q was, and thus is, real. The game is still afoot. If I said what I actually thought you'd call me crazy ... and it sounds crazy, but the pipeline shutdown, the gamestop blowup -- it all figures into the plan.

 I hope you have a week's worth of food that can be cooked without power. I expect February to be wild, complete with outages of all kinds, and military involvement similar to Myanmar in its own way. Except our boys want to keep those who like their sleep, asleep. The second amendment has made America unassailable directly, but Fang Fang's outing has proven that infiltration is just as deadly. So when our military moves to retake America for the Constitution, and for liberty, we might not really even see much of that.

Think for yourself, do your own research. And be careful who you follow.

You stupid
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 10:21:46 »
Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality? A family member of mine has similarly been sucked in to the conspiracy world, and we're not quite sure what to do at this point... No amount of reasoning does anything, and they think that we are the ones who are being misled. What do you even do with that?
Have a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/kw23ex/qs_going_nowhere_an_introspection_of_the_qanon/
There's a "cult deprogrammer" specialist in there talking about what to do, and what to avoid. Very interesting.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 11:21:08 »
Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality? A family member of mine has similarly been sucked in to the conspiracy world, and we're not quite sure what to do at this point... No amount of reasoning does anything, and they think that we are the ones who are being misled. What do you even do with that?
Have a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/kw23ex/qs_going_nowhere_an_introspection_of_the_qanon/
There's a "cult deprogrammer" specialist in there talking about what to do, and what to avoid. Very interesting.


Good video

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 11:48:21 »
Think for yourself, do your own research. And be careful who you follow.

You would do well to follow your own advice, my friend. :rolleyes: I look forward to whatever explanation you come up with after February turns out to be just another month.

Has your brother realized that he was duped, and come back to reality? A family member of mine has similarly been sucked in to the conspiracy world, and we're not quite sure what to do at this point... No amount of reasoning does anything, and they think that we are the ones who are being misled. What do you even do with that?
Have a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/kw23ex/qs_going_nowhere_an_introspection_of_the_qanon/
There's a "cult deprogrammer" specialist in there talking about what to do, and what to avoid. Very interesting.

Thank you! I will give that a watch.

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 12:01:26 »

after February turns out to be just another month.


There is always March 4th.

The goal posts have always been on wheels.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 12:05:34 »

after February turns out to be just another month.


There is always March 4th.

The goal posts have always been on wheels.

Very true. I just don't get it. We've been dealing with this **** since Nostradamus (and before) - how is it not obvious that it's all BS? And that's not even factoring in the actual history of Q that's widely known and available at this point. (I know, I know, it's all misinformation supplied by "the bad guys" :rolleyes: )

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Re: Electoral Objection.
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 12:11:53 »
Have a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/kw23ex/qs_going_nowhere_an_introspection_of_the_qanon/
There's a "cult deprogrammer" specialist in there talking about what to do, and what to avoid. Very interesting.

I have a personal recommendation if you want to look more into how cults brainwash people in the first place, and might help understand why some of the people in the QAnon and Trump movements are so invested while seeming like reasonable people 90% of the time, research Steven Hassan's BITE model. The guy was in the Moonies when he was younger, and almost died following their beliefs before his family pulled him out and helped him get deprogrammed from their cult mindset. He's since become a cult expert. The cliffnotes on the model are that it covers the four methods of control that cults slowly, but surely, exert over their followers until they only believe what the leader and other higher-ups in the cult say. To summarize:

Behavior Control
Information Control
Thought Control
Emotional Control

This handout summarizes it in more detail than I have here, but not in a way that makes you feel like you're lost in a wall of text. And before you ask, yes, it can also be applied to cults of personality like Trump's. Hassan himself actually wrote a book specifically about Trump's cult of personality, applying his model to it and showing how he used these methods of control, albeit probably unknowingly, to get such a fanatical base.

https://freedomofmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/BITE-Model-Handout-9-23-16.pdf (Hasty edit: WARNING ON THIS DOCUMENT!! It goes over some heavy stuff, and quite frankly disturbing stuff, that cults use to control their members. It doesn't go into great detail, and uses more passive wording, but it still goes over some of the more disturbing things that cult can, will, and have done to control their members. Not for the faint of heart or those with mental trauma, basically, if you think it could affect you. Sorry I didn't note this when first posting.)

Very true. I just don't get it. We've been dealing with this **** since Nostradamus (and before) - how is it not obvious that it's all BS? And that's not even factoring in the actual history of Q that's widely known and available at this point. (I know, I know, it's all misinformation supplied by "the bad guys" :rolleyes: )

The PDF I linked actually mentions how that thought process gets into the minds of the followers, I believe it's either under Information control or Thought control. It's honestly good knowledge to have, but terrifying to think about.

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