How big's ur laptop?

[tp4tissue]

What size dat gekhr use.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Physical dimensions or storage capacity?

[fohat.digs]

Small, thick, and heavy. But it has lots of sockets and a DVD burner.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Dimensions & Weight
Dimensions (W x D x H)   14.13" x 10.20" x 0.94"
Weight   4.63 lbs.

[tp4tissue]

Dimensions & Weight
Dimensions (W x D x H)   14.13" x 10.20" x 0.94"
Weight   4.63 lbs.

Pretty hefty. That's a man's laptop.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Dimensions & Weight
Dimensions (W x D x H)   14.13" x 10.20" x 0.94"
Weight   4.63 lbs.

Pretty hefty. That's a man's laptop.

It's a few years old, has an RTX 3060, an i7, 32 GB DDR4 and 3 TB total SSD space, it does the job.

[noisyturtle]

Why would I need a desktop and a laptop?

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Desktop for raw performance, laptop for portability.

Unless you don't need raw performance, then just a laptop with a dock if fine.

[noisyturtle]

Shiiii man, I never even take my Switch out the dock

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Shiiii man, I never even take my Switch out the dock

I have yet to play my Switch 2 outside of the dock. Why go from 4K 60 FPS down to 1080P?

It will be nice when traveling, but I don't do that enough.

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 lookn' 2 buy @ 14" around 3 pounds if possible.

Currently rolling a T460 3.8lbs, 4.3ish lbs with 6 cell.

Was doing the G5 5590 a while back at 6.3lbs, + 1.5lb charger, no more of that. Tp4 = old now.

Want to lighten up.

Butttttttttt,  it seems 14 inch aluminum laps arn't thttttt much lighter.

[Sniping]

my device loadout:

laptop - m2 macbook air
tablet - 12.9 m1 ipad pro
gaming pc - matx case
console - ps5, switch

best combo for the value oriented buyer. these devices fit my use cases perfectly but ymmv. you can get all of this used for what people spend on a fancy new gaming pc. I would like a steam deck at some point, but usually play at my friends place instead.

[tp4tissue]

Sniping knows damn well Tp4 can't afford no macbook..

[Findecanor]

I still use my ten-year old 8" Windows tablet every week, although only for reading PDFs.
I've ranted about its virtues enough on this forum this past decade.

[tp4tissue]

I still use my ten-year old 8" Windows tablet every week, although only for reading PDFs.
I've ranted about its virtues enough on this forum this past decade.

Tp4 still has a running nexus 7",  even youtube stopped working on it after they stopped updating.

Ereader works though.

[noisyturtle]

I mean, I got my 16 year old 15lb ASUS gaming laptop that got me through my first year of college. **** is SO HEAVY though and would constantly power off randomly due to terrible air flow and heating control.

[fohat.digs]

gaming laptop

Glad to be an outlier. I don't game at all, and consider a laptop to be a kind of toy that I take with me when I am away from home for more than 24 hours.

Any legit content on the laptop is immediately transferred to the "big, real" computer and a hard drive for long-term storage - or else deleted.

That way the laptop is lean and mean, but always ready to fall back on at any time for any reason.

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 is feeeling that hesitation. Wants to buy a gam4n' laptop again. They're lighter slightly these days. Hrrrm...

[tp4tissue]

Tp4, do not buy a gamn4r laptop, they're horrible. Tp4 listen Tp4.

[Leslieann]

Currently a 14in Lenovo T480 I5 (or I7?) w/16gb ram, 256gb ssd.
USB C charging, plenty of ports and new/fast enough for Win11 (not that I use it) without later Intel issues.

Probably the best budget laptop you can buy.

[tp4tissue]

Bro, brahh brooooo0sk,  you for serial Asooos,  the UEFI shell has wifi access.. WT.. OMG, seriallll..??  OMG....

This is like, the least secure thing ever. omg..   Yoo catch a bootkit, and is game over.    Don't take ur pc to foreing countries cuz,  bootkits everywhere on every netwurk. .


Also these "stock" asoos apps, every single one asks you to register.  Kinda invassive.

So we don' even trust dat mirosoft, and we're suppppose to just trust dat Assoos ?

[tp4tissue]

OMg, so Tp4 do dat reformat,  jump through a few bios setting just to get the drive to show up.

Ok, fine, everything's fine,  get into windows, no wifi drivers, ok fine, it's a fairly new chipset. OK, shiftf10 oobe, normal right?

Now, into windows, no wifi drivers,  Tp4 go to asus website download wifi driver.

It's the wrong damn driver, and it doesn't work.


Have to go to intel's site and download their drivers,  Confidence in Asoos @ an all time low.

[tp4tissue]

Hrrm?  The copilot function thing doesn't even use the NPU,  it's a pretty big expense on the die, and the copilot doesn't even use it..

/Frustrated.  People are paying for this.

It seems the only thing that uses the NPU on copilot is currently the background blur function for the camera.   /Umm..

Ok. well.. Hrmm,

[tp4tissue]

[tp4tissue]

Not exactly thrillled about this CPU.

Intel 256v,  it's kinda anemic.  Steam tops out at 197mbps.  Either the cpu is just tapped or some setting is not right or IDK.


On less compressed games, it can hit 480mbps on wifi, but not through the USB realtek adapter?  But then it can bench 1Gigabit ethernet no problem.

Weird.

[tp4tissue]

Welp, HDR doesn't work properly on an $830 laptop.  NICE.   Just oooozes quality.

What can you expect for <$1000 these days,  not Proper HDR that's for sure. 


Kind of a shame, cuz the panel is extremely well tuned otherwise. Color is great, they even allow sustained 600nits in HDR mode, but the PQ is completely messed up. It treats basically everything after 200nits as highlight and pushes hard. It honestly doesn't make any sense.

This is very upsetting.

[tp4tissue]

Minor consolation prize, 10bit actually works. So the only way to "HDR" is to use gpu tonemapping (very power intensive), which is unrealistic, because 1 it doesn't give you the 600nit peaks, and 2 it revs the fan to near max for movie watching??

[tp4tissue]

Called tech support, nooop, as expected they don't know how computers work.

Sigh....

[tp4tissue]

They don't tell you this straight up. but 140T gpu is much slower than 140V.


So at low power levels if you're choosing between 258/256 V  vs 255 H    H will give you ALOT more cpu power, but the GPU will be 20-40% weaker in many circumstances.

So for example, you got a CPU that can crank out more frames, but the GPU can't do it, you won't get more frames.

The GPU overall is weak, so a weaker CPU can actually help if it uses less power / is less powerful overall, to send just enough to saturate the GPU.

[tp4tissue]

This uses samsung amoled.

Tp4 has always been fan of Amoled, very good gamut, no pollution.

Weaker than the latest QD though. QD is amazing. 

[tp4tissue]

What in the blazes, HDR suddenly started working after a driver update. TODAY..


The PC gods smile upon Tp4. /Praise the veggie lord and Hard wurking Intel/Asoos engineers.. 

[tp4tissue]

NE1 feel like, the PERFECT laptop is always just around the corner ?

Like, hrrm, if they can just raise power efficiency to xxxxx, or if they just made a 16x pcie dockable port and a $50 dock.


IF ONLY the metal guys could come up with Tritanium already.

[tp4tissue]

Did some measurements.

The samsung laptop panels the, 60hz, 1200p Amoled going into alot of laptops this (last 2 years).

It really is pretty nice, the reds don't hit AS HARD as QD, but it's very good.

QD also isn't great for laptops without the polarizer, grey reflections. 

AMOLED
171% gamut volume of srgb
99.9% dcip3
96% adobe

vs

QD-Oled
184.2% gamut volume of srgb
99.9%  dcip3
97% adobe

Dotted line is p3

QD


AMOLED

[Leslieann]

Confidence in Asoos @ an all time low.

Their quality has been in the crapper for years.
I lost confidence when they sold a customer a laptop with a "gigabit ethernet port" that was actually only 10/100 at a time when gigabit was VERY well established as the default. This was after they sent me a replacement motherboard when the GPU slot didn't work, the "tested refurb" had bad memory slots that didn't even allow it to boot, so how was it tested? They did overnight me another (which worked), but at this point I had been down for 3 weeks. Other than routers I don't think I've bought anything from them since.

[tp4tissue]

Ok so here's the wishlist.   For $700

<3lbs @ 14 inch

Aluminum chassis

1920x1200 165hz oled VRR,   not 3k, not 4k, image scaling softens and wastes light output.

Zen6 x3d apu, with 1050ti lvl performance @ 30watt total tdp, can they maybe push to a 1660ti @ 50w total tdp, that'd be nice too.

32gb ddr 5 unified ram @ 10000mhz


It should be veryyyy possible.

[tp4tissue]

Honestly, have to say,  Intel Lunar Lake is a WINNER.

If they get their ducks in a row with the foundary, there's no reason they couldn't put some spanks to Apple.


The integrated ram at high bandwidth realllly helps with the GPU.

It's quite amazing what it can do at 10-12 watts.

You pull the power cord, it's pretty much still going 100% full power.  No other product can do this at the moment out side of Apple.