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Who got um'
« on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 12:55:39 »
U guys think a democrat did it?


Dark web seems to lean Dump did it to claireobscur the eptsn fillls.

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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 14:04:28 »
Vance doesn't want any competition in the 2028 primaries.

With all the opposition that Trump/Vance has had lately, a martyr to rally around could have been quite timely.

That might sound cynical, but ... I have absolutely no belief that such an action would be beneath them.
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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 15:40:32 »
I was just assuming that it was the son or grandson of any of the myriad people whose lives were crushed by any of many things the Republicans have done.

But chances are that it was a member of any of the groups or classes or races or religions (or lack thereof) that he railed against.


 
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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 18:03:34 »
I’m concerned that my friends on the Left are guilty of making the same unsubstantiated claims that they accuse the Right of. It is probably not in the best interest of commonality and unity to pass on hearsay or cynical guesses that further stoke the heated rhetoric. Agree or disagree with Kirk’s positions, he was willing to dialog with all people in a polite and public setting. Unlike many anonymous cowards, he engaged publicly and peacefully, fully aware of the risk. I did not follow his movement closely, but if he was disrespectful in any public conversation, I must have missed it.

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 18:19:40 »
He specifically stated gun deaths are acceptable as long as the 2nd Amendment is upheld, and not to mourn or show empathy towards victims.
Let us honor his request and stop talking about him.

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 18:40:26 »
He specifically stated gun deaths are acceptable as long as the 2nd Amendment is upheld, and not to mourn or show empathy towards victims.
Let us honor his request and stop talking about him.
Could you cite that reference for me. I’ve never heard it.

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« Reply #6 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 19:11:14 »
He specifically stated gun deaths are acceptable as long as the 2nd Amendment is upheld, and not to mourn or show empathy towards victims.
Let us honor his request and stop talking about him.
Could you cite that reference for me. I’ve never heard it.




'I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.'
 – Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

'I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made -up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.'

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 23:05:34 »
Thank you for the citation.

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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 10:58:33 »
"There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the Constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists."
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022


US Constitution

Article VI
“ …. no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

First Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof .... "

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 15:53:30 »
It seems pretty straight forward fa1s, e  flag attempt. The easily discoverable weapon, with trans promoting shells deliberately left in chamber.

There's pretty much no way you can spin that the "dude" himself was a leftist.  So this is probably the inner circle ordered by the top in attempt to start a violent civil war, or at least a distraction from, you know wha.

And they picked a dumb kid to do it, standard procedure.

And of course they bungle it.   Because they're not an exactly competent bunch.



If they hired professional CIA to do this, (darkweb revealed textbook) CIA would just burned down that kid's house with his family inside so there are no loose ends.  There are no human beings in geopolitics, only chess pieces.




The other darkweb theory
is that this whole thing was planned by K1 rk himself, similar to dv mp's faked a55sintn' .

The dumb kid was supposed to miss,  bungling the "original intent", leave the rifle to be discovered with pro-trans engraving.   

The fact that the 1-true-GOD, taking care of (harli is besides the point.


It doesn't make alot of sense to use that kind of rifle, and it's pretty hard to ensure hitting the target with the few bullets that he had, because that was never the intent.   The intent was to miss,  kr1k gets to pull a bloody ear moment, and spin the base.




So, now, they want to bury what really happened, and D  vm.p himself wants a "quick trial." you're guilty, end story.  See where this is going?

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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 16:31:24 »
I’m concerned that my friends on the Left are guilty of making the same unsubstantiated claims that they accuse the Right of. It is probably not in the best interest of commonality and unity to pass on hearsay or cynical guesses that further stoke the heated rhetoric. Agree or disagree with Kirk’s positions, he was willing to dialog with all people in a polite and public setting. Unlike many anonymous cowards, he engaged publicly and peacefully, fully aware of the risk. I did not follow his movement closely, but if he was disrespectful in any public conversation, I must have missed it.

Kurploplo,  right wing ideology today is primarily centered around ra(i  st b1g, _otry.

You might think, hey TP4, Kurploplo is right wing, he's not a racist, he knows a black guy.  That's kurploplo, NOT the rit wing machinery/media propoganda.

There are no redeeming qualities to K r1k's,  he's pretty unapologetically straight up h8 spe(ch focused, as are the majority of today's righ7 wng content.


THAT SAID,  despite all that,  When Tp4 analyzes the Chess board,   Dona1d dvp  is still the best president for world peace, AT THE MOMENT.

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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 16:46:30 »
It certainly smells fishy. Raised in a right-wing, gun-loving family, sure, probably not unusual in that part of the country.

Raised as a Republican (so was I) but changed his voter registration to "Independent" (so did I), and started paying more attention to politics ....

But after the shooting he went home to Mommy and Daddy? WTF? It seems to me that anybody with any sense of self-preservation would have made a beeline north to the Canadian border (or south to Mexico) and disappeared into the woods and off the grid for a couple of years.

Maybe he wanted to be the "New Luigi" - could that be  "a thing" ?


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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 16:57:13 »
No, this was not a Lu1   gy.

He had no intention of being caught, or even properly searched after.

This was a setup, and he got cold feet.

(K1krs probably wasn't supposed to die,  he messed up.

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 13 September 2025, 00:18:12 »
I think the guy apprehended was set up. I'm not saying that he didn't do it. I just believe he was someone taken advantage of, and manipulated into being there.
His father seemed to have made him give up, with the hope of escaping the death penalty.
But he'll be silenced one way or another... This smells like a "Lee Harvey Oswald" situation.

We've seen false flag insertions not long ago, used to justify using excessive force to silence protests.

This situation is going to be utilised to introduce new draconian laws, that will limit freedom of speech, believe me.

Raised as a Republican (so was I) but changed his voter registration to "Independent" (so did I), and started paying more attention to politics ....
I've never understood why you in the US would have to register your allegiance before voting. Isn't what you vote for supposed to be private?
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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 13 September 2025, 08:26:56 »

This situation is going to be utilised to introduce new draconian laws, that will limit freedom of speech, believe me.

I've never understood why you in the US would have to register your allegiance before voting.



Listening to Republicans claiming that most violence in this country is perpetrated by "leftists" would be laughable if MAGA did not hold all the power and lust so ardently to use it.

When the Constitution was written 1787 the distances were so great that it seemed that even a geographic area the size of a state would have trouble administering elections, and it would be essentially impossible for the entire nation.

States, and often counties, register voters and administer elections. Registering in a party is supposedly a function for "primary" elections.
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Re: Who got um'
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 13 September 2025, 08:57:54 »
The stupidity here, is a Democrat person is 99% identical to a Republican person.

The only true differences appear when you compare the average demo/rep to the DEMO/REPU  RULING CLASS.


The rhetoric and upfront contention is designed to fool the idiot citizenry.  The ruling class is 100% identical. The party lines only segment tax blocks and minor family feuds. 

The drama deliberately wastes your energy, while they Steal From You, and send Your kids to War. .