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60hz, and 27" monitors
« on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 10:18:15 »
Should we just retire these?

Is there a good reason to keep making 60hz.


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Re: 60hz
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 14:12:37 »
You are 60hz. :-Þ

Not everyone needs a gaming monitor.
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Re: 60hz
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 14:46:50 »
But there's no advantage, and the chips cost the same.

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Re: 60hz
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 16:19:26 »
There's more to a screen than just a chip and the typical office has no need for anything more.

And there is a reason to keep them, power efficiency.
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Re: 60hz
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 17:23:34 »
But they already invented adaptive refresh, so the display can go down to 20hz if necessary. Offices are all plugged in, the fraction of a watt only makes a huge impact on cellphones, about 8.5%, On laptops the difference is 1-2% (properly designed).

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Re: 60hz
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 18:50:33 »
60hrz will still exist for ****ty bulk office monitors
They will probably stay at 1080p till the 2030s as well

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Re: 60hz
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 27 October 2025, 20:24:19 »
What I mean is that in offices, it is more important to use available power and bandwidth for more screen real-estate than for high refresh rates.

At my last workplace, we all had dual 2560×1440p screens connected to laptops over single USB-C, and I mean everyone... Well, except for that guy who had a single 5120×1440 super ultra-wide.
And that USB-C was also used for network, keyboard, mouse and headset.  Many non-Thinkpads would have required it for power as well.
If we had used Macs, it would have been worse, because those practically require "retina"-level PPI as well.
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Re: 60hz
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 09 November 2025, 09:11:56 »
Another thing,  27 Inch monitors,  STOP, WHY, JUST STOP IT.

There is no reason to go under 32. Even 43 is OK at 2 feet. 
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Re: 60hz, and 27" monitors
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 10 November 2025, 07:16:08 »
Ultra wides.

Mmmm... ehhh... Not A Fan.

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Re: 60hz
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 November 2025, 06:16:47 »
Another thing,  27 Inch monitors,  STOP, WHY, JUST STOP IT.

There is no reason to go under 32. Even 43 is OK at 2 feet. 

Hard disagree.
I like 25-26in for my desk size.


You probably like them gigantic 7in phones too.
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Re: 60hz, and 27" monitors
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 November 2025, 06:43:08 »
Another thing,  27 Inch monitors,  STOP, WHY, JUST STOP IT.

There is no reason to go under 32. Even 43 is OK at 2 feet. 

Hard disagree.
I like 25-26in for my desk size.


You probably like them gigantic 7in phones too.

Llann probably doesn't do alot of specific Monitor-wurk.

27" even 3 of them, all day, squint to see, no bueno.


You might get away with 27" for browsing, big application UIs, but the non-consumer facing applications, 27" kill your eyes.  :D



Then there's g4m3r side of things, 27" is ok if you've got big looking targets in an FPS,  but if you got RTS or Top down RPG like Hades2, your dudes are quite small, not unplayable, but there's a comfort issue here.


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