Full Size Keyboards

[tp4tissue]

Horrifying Wrist destroyers.

They're still making these.

The Federal Legal maximum size for keyboards should be set to 75%/85%

A handsome keyboard but, wrists, omg.

[ItIsWritten]

Working daily on a fullsize for 40 years now and my wrists are fine, thank you.

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[tp4tissue]

Working daily on a fullsize for 40 years now and my wrists are fine, thank you.

That's possible if you don't actually type very much.

Hotkey use isn't what kills the wrist, spacebar use kill wrists.

[ItIsWritten]

I'm a translator. All I do is type.
And the spacebar is usually the same on all sizes, until you get to the real small ones.

I can type on smaller boards, but I lose speed.

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[Cyortonic]

Lowkey a skill issue. Big keyboards are epic

[PandaKB]

Haha exactly! Pink isn't illegal either. What if I build a massive, neon-pink full-size board just to commit the ultimate keyboard crime? 🌸 Let the wrists burn in style!

[phinix]

I just bought myself a full szie few weeks ago, first time in about 25 years.
I always use TKL, but wanted to have a full size for work to use numpad. It is sooo weird now, as my hands go straight to number row for digits:)

[YALE70]

Yeah I don't think it makes any meaningful difference other than a full size takes up way more desk space - especially if you're a masochist like me who likes to daily drive vintage tanks. I've always used a slide out tray though so it's never been a problem. Definitely been steering myself away from the numpad as of late however, having been working on laptops more frequently.

Though I have grown to appreciate the AT layout a bit more with how "centered" it is, but god forbid I ever need F11 or F12 lol

[Riverman]

I keep trying other layouts, but I always end up going back to a full size.  My job requires using a terminal emulator, so I make heavy use of the F keys and the navigation cluster, plus the numpad when I have to work with spreadsheets.  Right now I'm trying out a Leopold FC980C, but my first impression is that the lack of dedicated home and end keys might be a deal breaker.

[zegonix]

the answer is LAYERS.
unless you need to work on other keyboards a lot, it is worth the rewiring of your brain.

on another note, what do you need the F keys for in a terminal?

[ItIsWritten]

I already use layers, I don't want to have to use them for basic keypresses.

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[Riverman]

on another note, what do you need the F keys for in a terminal?

It's an IBM mainframe terminal that dates from the days when IBM keyboards had 24 PF keys.  It uses them to switch screens, scroll, and select items.  The terminal software we use uses either shift or control plus F1-F12 to give us access to the other PF keys above 12.

[SpoonSalesman]

I completely agree with this!!!

Unless you do "ten-key" the traditional way for a living, there is no need.
Just get a separate ten-key pad for that purpose.

My new keyboard uses a programable keypad where the navigation group sits on a TKL keyboard.
This lets you have the navigation group or anything you want on the first layer, and a numpad with the up-arrow as 0 on the second layer.



I think we should always be striving for better, more optimized layouts.

It is a shame we have been forced into such unoptimized layouts for so long.

[NorrisFByrd]

I am going to be the boring middle ground here. I use a full size at work because half my day is number entry in spreadsheets, and a proper numpad saves me more time than any layout trick ever did. At home I use a 75 percent because the mouse sits closer and my shoulder stopped aching. The wrist thing, for me, turned out to be my desk being too high, not the board. I lowered the chair two notches and the ache went away on the same full size board I was blaming. So I do not think full size is the villain, it is just the wrong tool if you never touch the numpad.