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Them escooter and ebikes
« on: Sun, 19 July 2026, 21:16:45 »
Doctor video making the rounds telling people how dangerous these things are and kids getting spinal injuries.

Tp4 actually knows a guy he got really excited about scootn' between warehouses on an escoot.

Couple weeks in, no helmet, he fell off, 20mph, broke 2 front toofs.

Sooooo... long story short $20,000 later,  welp, hope ya'll got $20,000 just lay'n around.

The escooter was $300.

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 19 July 2026, 21:29:42 »
Those e-scooters go waaaaaay too fast to be safe.

Even those commuter/rideshare e-bikes (Citibike in NYC and whatnot in other cities) don't even come close.

Pretty convenient but one accident is all it takes.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 19 July 2026, 21:54:36 »
The scooters are a serious nuisance over here in Stockholm. I wish they were forbidden. But even the regulations that exist are regularly broken because the police don't enforce them.

There is a legal cap on top speed and effect (watts), but even within those limits, the scooters are too fast, and the bikes that sell the most exceed those limits and are used illegally without any checks.
I see people break other regulations all the time, and almost never anyone wearing a helmet.
There are several rental companies, whose scooters get parked everywhere: the companies know where they are from GPS and telemetry and who used them but don't do anything to punish bad behaviour.

The biggest problem though is that people don't tend to view them as being a vehicle, and are used by people who seem to be new to the concept of operating any two-wheeled vehicle.
Because they are standing up while using it, they don't even seem to think that they are operating a motorised vehicle but instead are like pedestrians -- just faster, and infinitesimally thin so they try to get into gaps. They often use the vehicle on walk-paths, and pavements/side-walks, with no regard for traffic laws and regulations.

For some reason, the richest neighbourhood in Stockholm has also got the most accidents per capita. Because there is where the most arrogant people live, perhaps?

A bicycle with electric assist for getting up hills is a completely different thing.
« Last Edit: Mon, 20 July 2026, 04:29:29 by Findecanor »
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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 19 July 2026, 22:50:05 »
People just don't respect evolution.

The average Human can't run much faster than 8mph.  WHY would we have evolved bodies with SPINES that could handle say 10mph collisions.

Animals which CAN run faster, all have systems designed for it.

Even 15mph collision is dangerous.

The other thing is, a human body on a vehicle of any type, is not oriented for its survivable/controllable collision state.


If you're a super fast sprinter, you can argue, with legs on the ground, and running, you're in control, the system is tuned for it.

If your butt is in mid air, with a piece of metal that can puncture you on collision,  that is not a natural evolved set of circumstances.    Can you tumble safely, are you alert. No human needed attention spans @ 15mph for more than 10 seconds. So many things are out of place.

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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 20 July 2026, 20:53:42 »
A kid got hit by an SUV in front of the grocery store I frequent, the SUV was too tall to see him on his e-scoot.
I think giant vehicles are at least partially to blame. Especially in America.

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 20 July 2026, 21:00:04 »

I think giant vehicles are at least partially to blame.


Giant Republican-mobiles are an abomination.
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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 20 July 2026, 21:48:17 »

I think giant vehicles are at least partially to blame.


Giant Republican-mobiles are an abomination.


It is just the status quo for the era of selfishness we live in. People buy giant vehicles to 'feel safer' while presenting a greater danger to everyone around them.

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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 21 July 2026, 06:26:46 »
I think I heard statistics once that more kids in the US are killed by SUVs/trucks in the family's own drive-way than everywhere else.
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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 24 July 2026, 15:34:17 »
They be downloading illllegrilll firmwares which unlocks them to 35mph +

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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 26 July 2026, 02:43:01 »
theres a few issues here. scooters are easy to ride but actually were never designed to be ridden more than at a running pace. they're hard to swerve and maneuver at speed and the small wheels makes it easy to catch on big potholes and cracks in the road. it mostly seems fine until you really observe that a lot of new e scooter riders are kind of inexperienced looking type of people that don't have much time riding mopeds, motorcycles, even bicycles. the combination makes for pretty bad escooter accidents. the speed itself can be safeish but the rider needs to have skills, and a lot of new people are hopping on these new electric powered rides and barely have skills at all. the other concern is that a lot of people bend the rules when riding scooters and bikes so the collisions have been getting worse and more common with pedestrians and other bikers mainly. ironically on the other side of the spectrum for skill, the teenagers that do all the tricks and stunts on ebikes have lots of skills but can't seem to keep themselves out of trouble.

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Re: Them escooter and ebikes
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 26 July 2026, 07:01:38 »
They're too fast. and people can't stop in time.

We have the "road" for cars with very specific rules to make driving predictable.

Absent those rules, among pedestrians, an unruly set of curvatures and grades,  Human reaction time will invariably fail.

It's then only a matter of statistics, HOW OFTEN.