Author Topic: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate  (Read 7343 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline henrickdavis

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 3
Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:06:55 »
Ok, I spilled some coke on my BWU yesterday, it seemed fine at first, I removed some keycaps, dried it and it worked well. Today, I noticed that the Shift key was sticking horribly (most likely because of the sugar). I sprayed some 99% isopropyl alcohol in it, let it dry and it worked fine for about an hour before returning to its initial state. I also tried blowing into it, worked fine for a couple minutes...
What can I do now except for getting a new keyboard? Is there some kind of lubricant I can use? I heard that cleaning switches can remove the lubricant within them. I was thinking WD40, but read that it's a horrible idea. I also read that DeoxIT worked fine. What about re-soldering? Seems like it would be challenging, but interesting, I could get a keycap from Ebay and borrow a soldering iron somewhere, but I'd rather not resort to it.
Thanks for the help.
« Last Edit: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:13:08 by henrickdavis »

Offline NikoGasm

  • Posts: 263
  • Location: Wyoming
  • Platinum mad.
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:12:32 »
When it comes to Blue switches there isn't much you can do. If you lube it it'll lose it's tactile feeling. If you want the switch to be like it was you'll have to solder on a new one. You can buy switches for £.080 over at www.qwerkeys.co.uk.

Offline henrickdavis

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 3
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:15:02 »
When it comes to Blue switches there isn't much you can do. If you lube it it'll lose it's tactile feeling. If you want the switch to be like it was you'll have to solder on a new one. You can buy switches for £.080 over at www.qwerkeys.co.uk.
Is it actually hard? I have a friend who works at a garage, I guess he has a soldering iron somewhere and I can borrow it, but I wouldn't like to destroy something of this keyboard.

Offline NikoGasm

  • Posts: 263
  • Location: Wyoming
  • Platinum mad.
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:17:23 »
No, it's not really too hard. My first time trying to remove a switch was my first time soldering at all, and even I was successful. However, this particular keyboard can be just a tad difficult to get into.

You know, I do have a fully functional BWU for sale if this ordeal doesn't work out for you. (;

Offline henrickdavis

  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 3
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 18:09:26 »
bump

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 13724
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 20:05:15 »
It's a sign from GOD, that you need to get a "real" mechanical keyboard, one that doesn't suk....

Offline esoomenona

  • Gnillort?
  • Posts: 5323
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 20:26:48 »

Offline laffindude

  • Posts: 1521
  • ( ̽ ¬ ˳¬)
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 03:26:06 »
Given the amount of Blackwidow owners spilling their drink, Razer really need to include sippy cup as standard accessory.

Offline Human

  • Posts: 596
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 03:32:07 »
When it comes to Blue switches there isn't much you can do. If you lube it it'll lose it's tactile feeling. If you want the switch to be like it was you'll have to solder on a new one. You can buy switches for £.080 over at www.qwerkeys.co.uk.
Is it actually hard? I have a friend who works at a garage, I guess he has a soldering iron somewhere and I can borrow it, but I wouldn't like to destroy something of this keyboard.

IMO, it is quite hard to pry off the case of the BWU carefully so that it doesn't damage anything to it.
Once you passed it, the rest is quite fine and easy.

Though, I do notice that it is also quite hard to remove the switches on BWU as compared to other boards.
The switches stuck more tightly on the steel plate and require some tricks to remove it.
I forcefully pry the switch off(a broken switch) after all other means failed. 
« Last Edit: Sun, 09 December 2012, 03:34:11 by Human »

Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4567
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 03:47:57 »
Black Widows had/have a habit of sticking if keys are not perfectly positioned (particularly the space and left shift key), when you removed it, it's possible it now rubs on one side or more. If this is the case, and again, this is a known, common issue, the options are send it back or sand the bottom edge of the keys down where they rub (it is easily hidden when re-assembled).

I would check this before you start prepping the soldering tool.
Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

Offline rowdy

  • HHKB Hapster
  • * Erudite Elder
  • Posts: 21175
  • Location: melbourne.vic.au
  • Missed another sale.
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 03:55:39 »
Given the amount of Blackwidow owners spilling their drink, Razer really need to include sippy cup as standard accessory.

I LOLed at this :))
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

Ị̸͚̯̲́ͤ̃͑̇̑ͯ̊̂͟ͅs̞͚̩͉̝̪̲͗͊ͪ̽̚̚ ̭̦͖͕̑́͌ͬͩ͟t̷̻͔̙̑͟h̹̠̼͋ͤ͋i̤̜̣̦̱̫͈͔̞ͭ͑ͥ̌̔s̬͔͎̍̈ͥͫ̐̾ͣ̔̇͘ͅ ̩̘̼͆̐̕e̞̰͓̲̺̎͐̏ͬ̓̅̾͠͝ͅv̶̰͕̱̞̥̍ͣ̄̕e͕͙͖̬̜͓͎̤̊ͭ͐͝ṇ̰͎̱̤̟̭ͫ͌̌͢͠ͅ ̳̥̦ͮ̐ͤ̎̊ͣ͡͡n̤̜̙̺̪̒͜e̶̻̦̿ͮ̂̀c̝̘̝͖̠̖͐ͨͪ̈̐͌ͩ̀e̷̥͇̋ͦs̢̡̤ͤͤͯ͜s͈̠̉̑͘a̱͕̗͖̳̥̺ͬͦͧ͆̌̑͡r̶̟̖̈͘ỷ̮̦̩͙͔ͫ̾ͬ̔ͬͮ̌?̵̘͇͔͙ͥͪ͞ͅ

Offline MissMurd3r84

  • Posts: 641
  • Location: New South Wales, Australia.
  • In IRC wondering why Kmiller8 is yelling.
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 04:25:07 »
Wonder if the plate will go rusty, since mine did without liquid, I wonder what liquid would actually do to it.
KBC Poker - Red switches. Noppoo Choc Mini - Black switches. Leopold FC700R (White) - Blue switches. Ducky YOTD - Brown switches. Razer BW - Blue switches and rusted.

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 13724
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 07:47:44 »
Wonder if the plate will go rusty, since mine did without liquid, I wonder what liquid would actually do to it.

Well, since you live in the Amazon river basin, the high humidity might've caused premature rusting.

Offline wetto

  • Posts: 641
  • Location: Brazil
  • Brazil's Keyboard Enthusiasts Representative
    • Portuguese Mechanical Keyboard Guide
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 07:56:50 »
Wonder if the plate will go rusty, since mine did without liquid, I wonder what liquid would actually do to it.

Well, since you live in the Amazon river basin, the high humidity might've caused premature rusting.

Nay, it's not the river's fault, I just cleaned my Das Keyboard yesterday and its OK  :))
My collection:
More
Mice: Logitech G602, CM Storm Recon, CM Storm Spawn, Razer Naga, Ozone Radon Opto, Corsair M60, Tesoro Gandiva, CM Storm Alcor, Mionix Naos 8200.
Keyboards: Matias Secure Pro, Matias Mini Quiet Pro, custom modded Metadot Das Keyboard Model S Professional Silent (MX Brown, Costar), CM Storm Trigger (MX Brown), Noppoo Choc Mini (MX Red), Tesoro Lobera G5NFL Supreme, CM Storm Devastator.
Soon: CM Storm Quick Fire TK (MX Brown), CM Storm Trigger Z.
Boards I don't own anymore: CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid (MX Black), Logitech K800 (Membrane), Logitech G710+ (MX Brown), Thermaltake Meka G-Unit (MX Black), Corsair K70 (MX Red).
Mice I don't own anymore: Logitech G9x MW3, Corsair M65, Logitech G700, Roccat Kone Pure.

Offline YMSNoms

  • Posts: 109
  • Location: Coventry UK
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 10 December 2012, 15:40:32 »
I have to say Having used  BWU you were probably better off pouring acid all over it, personally I'd have to say its an awful keyboard.
But I'veput my QFR, My Filco and my old topre in the dishwasher for cleaning purposes and aslong as it isnt too hot and you are thorough with your cleaning it's fine.
Leopold FC700R
Filco Majestouch-2 Multicamo
Korean FR4-87 Lambo Orange Custom

Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4567
Re: Stuck key after spillage on Blackwidow Ultimate
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 10 December 2012, 16:48:48 »
Wonder if the plate will go rusty, since mine did without liquid, I wonder what liquid would actually do to it.
It was bad paint prep or contaminated paint for that specific batch, most likely due to the manufacturer being cheap and not checking or just not caring enough. It happens more often than people realize.

As long as it is prepped properly, and the paint is good, there is no reason for it to rust as the paint would seal it from any moisture. Considering these were not exposed to the elements and how quickly it happened, it's likely the plates were exposed to the elements prior to paint and not properly prepped after. This isn't something Razer would have been aware of.

My BWU, has no rust on the plate.
Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion