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Offline czarek

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Beige filco yellowing.
« on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 13:56:24 »
I'm wondering if it's an issue. I love the looks of beige Filco and I'm thinking about buying one to try out MX Red, but i'm kind of worried about yellowing...
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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:08:53 »
If you limit sun exposure, it'll be fine.. especially considering you don't want alotta sun around your monitor to begin with.

Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

A beater Quickfire rapid for example, just turns into garbage or something you're embarrassed to lug around or have the neighbors see.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:12:51 »
Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

Check out my black Filco after about year use:

The shine is not skin oil, it's actual plastic wear due to extensive use. My keyboards work and earn money, don't just look cool on a desk ;)
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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:14:27 »
Looks well loved. Like TP4Tissue stated, stay away from sunlight with white plastic to truly avoid ABS yellowing. The sun promotes the ABS yellowing. Also, if you smoke, stay away from it while smoking, as it also promotes yellowing.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:18:50 »
Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

Check out my black Filco after about year use:
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The shine is not skin oil, it's actual plastic wear due to extensive use. My keyboards work and earn money, don't just look cool on a desk ;)

I am the same. Though for me it is just the keycaps that wear out, the case always looks decent. Your case seems to have a lot of wear however. For example the area above the arrow keys, I hardly ever touch it. Everyone has different habits I guess (I can also tell for example, that you hit the spacebar in a completely different location than I do).

I am also interested in what would happen with a white filco in sunlight. When I bought my most recent filco this was also something I worried about, knowing that it would sit next to a window and catch a lot of sunlight every single day. The caps would no doubt yellow since they are just ABS, but I am not sure if the case is made of a material that would not yellow.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:24:40 »
If I'm going through a paper, (or code, in some environments) I touch the area above the arrow keys for Page Down/Up and Delete for editing stuff quickly. I also use the arrow keys, so my boards show some of the same shine.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 14:34:09 »
My desk is located next to window so no doubt keyboards get fair amount of sunlight every day. Although I must say I used HHKB with white keys (where spacebar is ABS) for over a year and there is no yellowing visible on keys. Obviously there is absolutely no color change in IBM and Unicomp keyboards which I use mostly.
I may get this white Filco just to see how it goes on. Is it hard to get the aluminium case for it in case i wear the plastic out like the last one? I already have few G81-3000 keyboards with thick lasered PBT caps so could reuse them on Filco I guess...
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Re: Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:19:40 »
My desk is located next to window so no doubt keyboards get fair amount of sunlight every day. Although I must say I used HHKB with white keys (where spacebar is ABS) for over a year and there is no yellowing visible on keys. Obviously there is absolutely no color change in IBM and Unicomp keyboards which I use mostly.
I may get this white Filco just to see how it goes on. Is it hard to get the aluminium case for it in case i wear the plastic out like the last one? I already have few G81-3000 keyboards with thick lasered PBT caps so could reuse them on Filco I guess...
There is a ready, though somewhat unsatisfactory, aftermarket aluminum case available for $150 from MechanicalKeyboards.com

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:22:41 »
well there's certainly "some" skin oil in there, and 'some" you know wa.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 23:05:29 »
I've had my beige filco for about 8 months now, it still look about the same.  Filco made it beige instead of pure white for a reason.

Because when pure white turns yellow, you'll definitely know it turns yellow, but when beige turns yellow, it will look roughly about the same.  Many people hate on the fact that it's not pure white but it's actually a smart design decision  :)

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 24 April 2013, 23:06:58 »
Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

Check out my black Filco after about year use:
(Attachment Link)
The shine is not skin oil, it's actual plastic wear due to extensive use. My keyboards work and earn money, don't just look cool on a desk ;)

Don't type with gloves made from sandpaper.  Also, how did you manage to use every key that much, and even wear out spaces between keys?
« Last Edit: Wed, 24 April 2013, 23:08:52 by PointyFox »

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 25 April 2013, 01:40:26 »
Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

Check out my black Filco after about year use:
(Attachment Link)
The shine is not skin oil, it's actual plastic wear due to extensive use. My keyboards work and earn money, don't just look cool on a desk ;)

Don't type with gloves made from sandpaper.  Also, how did you manage to use every key that much, and even wear out spaces between keys?

Because contrary to what people keep insisting, ABS is nowhere near that durable and in fact, wears out and through very very easily. It is not abuse, and it is not people wearing "gloves of sandpaper," and it is not "grinding the keys."
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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 25 April 2013, 06:39:42 »
Besides... a filco ages with grace due to it's luxury branding nature :D

Check out my black Filco after about year use:
(Attachment Link)
The shine is not skin oil, it's actual plastic wear due to extensive use. My keyboards work and earn money, don't just look cool on a desk ;)

Don't type with gloves made from sandpaper.  Also, how did you manage to use every key that much, and even wear out spaces between keys?

Just bare hands man. I used all of them because I write in English and Polish, also I write perl at least 8 hours a day using Vim so pretty much use all the keys, maybe not F1-F15 ;) In meantime i rest my hand on the space above the arrows.
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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 25 April 2013, 17:47:01 »
You dissolved that thing.  I had a generic Dell keyboard I used for like 12 years, playing video games on ~6 hours a day.  The keys were pad printed and after 12 years, only a small part of the A was partially rubbed away.

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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 25 April 2013, 17:55:47 »
You dissolved that thing.  I had a generic Dell keyboard I used for like 12 years, playing video games on ~6 hours a day.  The keys were pad printed and after 12 years, only a small part of the A was partially rubbed away.

And this is a Thermaltake Meka G1 after just a few months. ABS is low quality junk, the end. Or what, you're going to claim keys don't shine ever?
Quit trying to blame owners for shoddy quality components.
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Re: Beige filco yellowing.
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 25 April 2013, 22:29:21 »
You dissolved that thing.  I had a generic Dell keyboard I used for like 12 years, playing video games on ~6 hours a day.  The keys were pad printed and after 12 years, only a small part of the A was partially rubbed away.

And this is a Thermaltake Meka G1 after just a few months. ABS is low quality junk, the end. Or what, you're going to claim keys don't shine ever?
Quit trying to blame owners for shoddy quality components.


Clearly Dell keyboards > Filco