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Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:29:01 »
Found this on Kickstarter and was curious whether those who regularly work with small components might find it useful:


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2065435222/pcbgrip-electronics-assembly-system


Or would any decent set of helping hands be sufficient?

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:30:15 »
Very, very cool, probably somewhat specialized in use. I would definitely use it.

Seems that it may be very high quality, but my opinion is that pricing is about double what market would bear. Kick down the quality (mostly because that high degree of precision quality isn't usually needed) and get the price down to a point that more people would purchase it.

Oh wait. That's what China is for.

Wait 6 months-1 year and get similar for $29.
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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:33:45 »
The panavise PCB holder which isn't quite that fancy was recently on sale for less than $30

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:06:32 »
Although it looks neat and kind of useful, at 130CAD for the most basic kit I would say that it is a bit over the top. I don't have enough problems soldering PCBs that I could warrant such an expense. They target diy'ers and small scale production, but ordering machine soldered boards isn't that expensive when compared to this.

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:38:41 »
But it IS very cool :)
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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 00:57:38 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

Buying more keycaps,
it really hacks my wallet,
but I must have them.

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 01:08:24 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
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A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.



i got one of these for $2.50  at harborfreight

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:54:49 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
Show Image


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

I too have one of these - it has proven invaluable many times.

Although something a bit more substantial would be nice :)
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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 06:13:08 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
Show Image


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

I too have one of these - it has proven invaluable many times.

Although something a bit more substantial would be nice :)

If you bolt it down.. it will be quite substantial.

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 08:39:01 »
A seller on flea bay has helping hands with several other holding attachments, and bolted to a ceramic board so you can solder, use a torch for jewelry…very neat setups.
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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:37:38 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
Show Image


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

I too have one of these - it has proven invaluable many times.

Although something a bit more substantial would be nice :)

If you bolt it down.. it will be quite substantial.

Nowhere to bolt it.

And the alligator clips are a bit weak on mine.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:55:33 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
Show Image


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

I too have one of these - it has proven invaluable many times.

Although something a bit more substantial would be nice :)

If you bolt it down.. it will be quite substantial.

Nowhere to bolt it.

And the alligator clips are a bit weak on mine.

alligator clips?

I just use duct tape

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 16:33:44 »
A bit of overkill, I'd say. I'd probably use one if I had one, but I use one of these instead:
Show Image


A lot cheaper and does essentially the same job, just a bit less stable. Works for me.

I too have one of these - it has proven invaluable many times.

Although something a bit more substantial would be nice :)

If you bolt it down.. it will be quite substantial.

Nowhere to bolt it.

And the alligator clips are a bit weak on mine.

alligator clips?

I just use duct tape


http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_clip

Maybe you call them something else.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:02:13 »
Thats a really cool looking setup,but the price! :eek: Like some other people have noted in the thread, if they brought the cost down to something like 30 bucks i would consider getting one but not until then.

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:20:03 »
alligator clips?

I just use duct tape


And speaking of alligator clips and duct tape, I have always used them together. Alligator clips ahve a tendency to damage what they are holding, in particular the insulation of wires. Just put some duct tape on both of the jaws and they will still clamp down enough to hold cables and PCB's but without damaging them. Sort of trivial but I have found it useful.

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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:38:45 »
alligator clips?

I just use duct tape


And speaking of alligator clips and duct tape, I have always used them together. Alligator clips ahve a tendency to damage what they are holding, in particular the insulation of wires. Just put some duct tape on both of the jaws and they will still clamp down enough to hold cables and PCB's but without damaging them. Sort of trivial but I have found it useful.


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Re: Would this be useful for regular work with small components?
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:42:26 »
alligator clips?

I just use duct tape


And speaking of alligator clips and duct tape, I have always used them together. Alligator clips ahve a tendency to damage what they are holding, in particular the insulation of wires. Just put some duct tape on both of the jaws and they will still clamp down enough to hold cables and PCB's but without damaging them. Sort of trivial but I have found it useful.


The springs in my alligator clips are pretty much borked - I'm lucky if they will grab onto anything.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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