Making a standard light browsing build, critique me please.

[dirtyblacksocks]

Basically my parents need a new system, they do nothing but browse the internet lightly - so I'm going for as cheap as possible while still giving them some good speed.

Please check my work, let me know if there are any tweaks you would recommend in terms of giving them better compatibility, better speed, saving money, or putting money into better hardware.

Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PJrZ

[Photoelectric]

If all they do is browse the web, they would be fine with something like a Pentium or an equivalent AMD processor.  You could get an adequate desktop for $300 instead of over $500, if your goal is to go cheap.

[hwood34]

If they're just browsing you could drop the SSD, they don't make that much of a difference anyway. You might not even need 8gb of ram, but it's already so cheap. Besides that it looks fine.

[dirtyblacksocks]

If they're just browsing you could drop the SSD, they don't make that much of a difference anyway. You might not even need 8gb of ram, but it's already so cheap. Besides that it looks fine.

Are you sure? I'd like it to be somewhat future proof for at least the next 7 years or so, which is why I went with the i3 instead, for a little extra oomph with new OS's that come out.

[Photoelectric]

What is future-proof?  I made my mother's computer with the 2nd generation of i3 when it first came out, and there's still zero need to upgrade for a while.  Most recent Pentiums should be just as good and would also not require any upgrading for a long time.  I mean what is it that needs upgrading?  There is enough horsepower in much older processors to just browse the web and look at photos.  I know someone in his 80s who writes articles and browses the web on his old computer from 2003 just fine still.  I don't think an SSD is necessary either.  My mom's computer is pretty snappy with a regular 7200 RPM drive.  You begin seeing a benefit from an SSD when you open a lot of applications frequently, play games that do a lot of real-time reading and some writing, etc.  Without an SSD, boot time will be a tad longer, Chrome/Firefox will open a second or two later.

You also don't need more than a 300-watt power supply for that system.  A Seasonic G-360 is excellent for that purpose, and it's smaller size with shorter cables, if you're looking to use a small case.

If you're not going to disable page file (via not using an SSD), then you don't need more than 4GB of RAM either for a machine with the purpose you've described.

[dirtyblacksocks]

What is future-proof?  I made my mother's computer with the 2nd generation of i3 when it first came out, and there's still zero need to upgrade for a while.  Most recent Pentiums should be just as good and would also not require any upgrading for a long time.  I mean what is it that needs upgrading?  There is enough horsepower in much older processors to just browse the web and look at photos.  I know someone in his 80s who writes articles and browses the web on his old computer from 2003 just fine still.  I don't think an SSD is necessary either.  My mom's computer is pretty snappy with a regular 7200 RPM drive.  You begin seeing a benefit from an SSD when you open a lot of applications frequently, play games that do a lot of real-time reading and some writing, etc.  Without an SSD, boot time will be a tad longer, Chrome/Firefox will open a second or two later.

You also don't need more than a 300-watt power supply for that system.  A Seasonic G-360 is excellent for that purpose, and it's smaller size with shorter cables, if you're looking to use a small case.

The SSD is strictly to boot quickly and run programs quickly, they do watch some TV and burn CD's and convert some media and whatnot for burning DVD's from time to time - I'd just like to ensure they're not going to get bogged down on this computer over the years. Right now they're on a Dell that's about 6 years old and they've decided it's too slow for them, so I'd like to make this investment worth their while. If you genuinely think a Pentium is going to last through the years for newer OS's that are created and the software used to browse, watch videos, convert music and videos, etc. then I'll go with it.

[quickcrx702]

If it's for your parents and most of what they do is just surf the web, I would just buy a laptop in the $400 range.  Any newer laptop will be more than fast enough, even the low end models, and it also comes with a screen, and a properly licensed Windows OS.  Examples:

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/e545/
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/s-series/

Just browse the site and you'll see a some models in that range, but avoid any Celeron based models.  I recommend Lenovo because they usually have a better build quality than competing brands, and lower failure rate after three years.  Dell and HP are nice, just they seem to always have power supply issues on the desktops, and cooling issues on the laptops that cause the video card to die over a few years, resulting in bios beeps and a unbootable computer.  I've seen Lenovo's with these problems as well, just not as much.  It's more economical these days to just buy a low end PC, vs build your own.  The only good reason to build your own is if you have some specialized usage or want to build a high performance PC.

[Photoelectric]

Burning CDs/DVDs is going to be limited by the speed of the optical drive and disks--not the SSD and processor, or RAM.  Watching TV is more about having a good internet connection, and the rest, as I'd mentioned, is going to give a marginal difference.  I know because I have programs on both SSDs and Hard drives on more than one computer.  The difference is there but is small enough to not care about for casual use.  I'm just approaching this from a logical standpoint.  I know someone who built their mother's computer with an i5 and the latest parts, and she also only just browses facebook on it and replies to e-mails.  It's up to you what you really want to do.

[hwood34]

I assure you the faster boot time is negligible, and you have a 7200 rpm hdd anyway, you should be fine. And I agree with the power supply, you need a very small amount to run what you're doing

[UniClown]

I am no hardware genius, but I noticed you could save money on almost every part. This doesn't mean I am recommending cheap-O parts, but just better alternatives.

My suggestions:

• Choose a cheaper case. Unless your parents have told you they like that one  in particular, I would try to save a small bit of money on the case. Alternatives could be a Corsair 200R, NZXT has a bunch of high quality, low cost cases, or even a Fractal Arc Midi R2 if it goes on sale again (seen it for as low as $50). I'm sure others could recommend good budget cases.
• That PSU is high quality, but not a bargain. The PSU you are looking for, for this kind of PC, is the Corsair CX430, save yourself $40 (don't let price point lead you to believe this is a bad PSU)
• Just get 4GB of RAM. They would basically never need 8GB. Go for 2x2GB.
• The motherboard is the worst offender as far as overkill goes. I don't know too much about the current motherboard market, but what I do know is that you definitely shouldn't be spending $95 on one.

I also don't know too much about the current CPU market, but the one you chose looks like it will be more than fine for this use. You could even get one for a little cheaper and still be ok.

A browsing PC shouldn't cost $590 unless you live in Australia.  ) You can thank me later for all the money you save.

While I was writing this others posted, so I would like to state that the SSD is up to you. If they don't use the computer that often and only really open browsers, you probably won't need one. However, I also don't think it is correct to say that you they aren't as beneficial if you don't play games. It will result in great boot times, but they would also have to manage two drives, which can be hard for non-tech-savvy people to discern what to put where.

[tp4tissue]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total ~$ 1020...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

[hwood34]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total $940...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

Best bang for your buck I'd advise quad GTX Titans, liquid cooled of course

[tp4tissue]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total $940...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

Best bang for your buck I'd advise quad GTX Titans, liquid cooled of course

I get it, you're trying to be funny..

I'm 100% serious though...

It is NOT wise to build budget setups...   they become obsolete too quickly.. and EVERY new computer is going to be around $500 minimum...

So you might as well build a $1000 one that will be faster than both $500 computers...


Overclocking is what makes that possible.

[hwood34]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total $940...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

Best bang for your buck I'd advise quad GTX Titans, liquid cooled of course

I get it, you're trying to be funny..

I'm 100% serious though...

It is NOT wise to build budget setups...   they become obsolete too quickly.. and EVERY new computer is going to be around $500 minimum...

So you might as well build a $1000 one that will be faster than both $500 computers...


Overclocking is what makes that possible.

It may be faster but overclocking especially to the speeds you're talking about will significantly decrease the life of the cpu anyway

[hwood34]

Or you could always just get a chromebook

[tp4tissue]

Some numbers..

Your build.. $588 total

passmark: 5126

gpumark: 629



My build.. $1000 total      170%

passmark : 14226            277%

gpumark:  3420               543%




So, for 70% increase in price (less than double)... you get Triple 3x the CPU power, and Quintuple 5.5x the GPU power




Overclocking is why budget builds TODAY, makes absolutely 0 sense....


Only destitute people and n00bs go with budget builds...

[dirtyblacksocks]

I guess I'm destitute then, because we're working with a $600 budget, and we do not have money, but thanks.

[tp4tissue]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total $940...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

Best bang for your buck I'd advise quad GTX Titans, liquid cooled of course

I get it, you're trying to be funny..

I'm 100% serious though...

It is NOT wise to build budget setups...   they become obsolete too quickly.. and EVERY new computer is going to be around $500 minimum...

So you might as well build a $1000 one that will be faster than both $500 computers...


Overclocking is what makes that possible.

It may be faster but overclocking especially to the speeds you're talking about will significantly decrease the life of the cpu anyway

NO IT WILL NOT...  all modern CPUs have very aggressive speed step... the CPU will operate under idle states 1.6ghz for 80% of the time the computer is on..

IN FACT.... Overclocking TODAY will increase the lifespan of the Computer..

The reason being... Reverse Vdroop..  where the idle voltage is HIGHER than the load voltage in stock configuration..

Using the Load Line Calibration feature in Overclocking boards.. that can be reversed.. which means...... the CPU will run at a lower voltage  for a GREATER duration of the time that it's powered on vs stock...

[tp4tissue]

I guess I'm destitute then, because we're working with a $600 budget, and we do not have money, but thanks.

I didn't mean to be rude...   destitute was just the first word that came to mind... I don't mean that.. sorry if it sounded offensive// condescending..


If you can amass $600, you could surely wait just a little longer to get another $400..


I guarantee you, if you build that dual core i3,  you're going to need another computer really soon.... within 2-3 years...


M0re C0res are especially good for mom and dad-puters because they're going to install tons of bloatware and spyware...

The point is to have so much CPU power that it will negate their malicious usage patterns.

[hwood34]

And a harddrive cleanup every once and a while goes a long way, I cleaned up my dad's PC not too long ago and got rid of literally gbs of junk

[Tarzan]

And a harddrive cleanup every once and a while goes a long way, I cleaned up my dad's PC not too long ago and got rid of literally gbs of junk

Installing Ccleaner and setting it to run on startup goes a long way towards keeping disc space free.

[tp4tissue]

@ Tarzan, and hwood34..   would you mind telling me your "ages" and your total data collected (in GBs)?

[eth0s]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total ~$ 1020...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

ZOMFG!   This is horrible advice.  No wait, it's the Worst ADVICE EVAR!!!

You have no operating system?  How you gonna use internet?  From BIOS?  Maybe on planet tp4 they don't need OS, but here on Earth, our computers need software.

This build needs linux to keep speeds fast, hard drive healthy, and to save mom and dad from being victims of hackz0rz.  Do you want the Iranian terrorist hackz0rz to steal your college money?  tp4 lives at home and goes to local community college at night, so he doesn't care about losing his parents life savings.  But you should!

That original build list looked pretty good to me.  You spent the whole $600, and maxed out value in every area, IMO.  If you want to increase the budget by +$100, I would suggest the Core i5-4670K, which is the best bang-for-buck processor you can get.  Seems a shame to pass that one up, if you can squeeze it into the budget.  Then you get tp4's future proofing, without the overpricing of more expensive cpu's.

[Elrick]

Basically my parents need a new system, they do nothing but browse the internet lightly - so I'm going for as cheap as possible while still giving them some good speed.

Please check my work, let me know if there are any tweaks you would recommend in terms of giving them better compatibility, better speed, saving money, or putting money into better hardware.

Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PJrZ

Okay you want to show your parents, the ones that gave birth to you into this cold harsh world, protected you, schooled you and provided a home for you so that now you could show how much you love them, by giving them a cheap-arse PC?

Very nice, I know you're young hence you might have issues about hating your parents due to your infantile age, but as you grow older you will then realize how important they truly are to your existence.

Don't build anything unless you will be using it yourself for the next 4 to 6 years ahead.  If you don't want to use poor spec'ed rubbish, like you suggested (an i3), then up the spec to something decent for them. 

Get at least an - i5 4670K, - ASUS Maximus VI Impact Motherboard, - Corsair CMD16GX3M2A2400C10 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR3, -  240GB Intel SSD 530 Series - Western Digital SE 4TB WD4000F9YZ - Lian Li PC-Q08B Black HTPC Case (brilliant little case - high quality) and a Corsair AX760 Platinum Power Supply (I've got this one - superb).

If you can acquire all of these items for your parents I suspect they will be using this setup till the day they both die of old age.  Buy something decent rather than anything cheap because it shows how much you really care about them.  Remember they don't live forever and why cheapen your reputation now when they will always remember this decent thing that you've done for them.  Plus, it makes good karma for you in a later life  .

[tp4tissue]

Basically my parents need a new system, they do nothing but browse the internet lightly - so I'm going for as cheap as possible while still giving them some good speed.

Please check my work, let me know if there are any tweaks you would recommend in terms of giving them better compatibility, better speed, saving money, or putting money into better hardware.

Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PJrZ

Okay you want to show your parents, the ones that gave birth to you into this cold harsh world, protected you, schooled you and provided a home for you so that now you could show how much you love them, by giving them a cheap-arse PC?

Very nice, I know you're young hence you might have issues about hating your parents due to your infantile age, but as you grow older you will then realize how important that truly are to your existence.

Don't build anything unless you will be using it yourself for the next 4 to 6 years ahead.  If you don't want to use poor spec'ed rubbish you suggested (an i3) for yourself, then up the spec to something decent for them. 

Get at least an - i5 4670K, - ASUS Maximus VI Impact Motherboard, - Corsair CMD16GX3M2A2400C10 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR3, -  240GB Intel SSD 530 Series - Western Digital SE 4TB WD4000F9YZ - Lian Li PC-Q08B Black HTPC Case (brilliant little case - high quality) and a Corsair AX760 Platinum Power Supply (I've got this one - superb).

If you can acquire all of these items for your parents I suspect they will be using this setup till the day they both die of old age.  Buy something decent rather than anything cheap because it shows how much you really care about them.  Remember they don't live forever and why cheapen your reputation now when they will always remember the decent things you've done for them.  Plus, it makes good karma for you in a later life  .

Um... No?  This is madness...

Lian Li?

760 platinum?

maximus VI with a 4670?



That motherboard, psu, and cpu are horribly mismatched.

this is Gen4 intel, which means expensive mother board doesn't do anything.. all those expensive power regulation circuits do jack-diddly because the vrm is now on die..

4770 + z87 pro would come out to be the same price as 4670 + maximus VI impact..

[Lanx]

find the cheapest laptop with a big screen for 300ish

a quick search on amazon found a hp 15in screen for 350
hp 2000 15in screen

it already has 4gb ram and 1 free dimm slot so you can easily upgrade to 8gb total

320gb is enough for parents and you can always grab a 2tb external for a 100 or so

yea the resolution is 1366, but it's 350bucks!, hell they're parents, they probably have bad eye sight anyway, lower resolution means bigger icons (i'm not joking)

a laptop is a better investment for parents than a desktop, right now in this day and age. why? parents like to move around the house, browse in the kitchen, sit in the patio, like everyone else.

[Elrick]

Um... No?  This is madness...

Lian Li?

760 platinum?

maximus VI with a 4670?

Who the hell said anything about a plain 4670, if you bothered to read I mentioned a 4670K from the get go.

[tp4tissue]

find the cheapest laptop with a big screen for 300ish

a quick search on amazon found a hp 15in screen for 350
hp 2000 15in screen

Dude.. that is a zacate e-300

it benches passmark 630 with 2 cores active..

for reference..  a single core fx55 from 7 years ago bench 700

[tp4tissue]

Um... No?  This is madness...

Lian Li?

760 platinum?

maximus VI with a 4670?

Who the hell said anything about a plain 4670, if you bothered to read I mentioned a 4670K from the get go.

mmm I agree the 4670k is an OK.. compromise from the 4770k..

but honestly.. HT is really good for the type of apps that parents would use..

a billion apps that they forgot to close, ++ a bunch of spyware...  Hyperthreading is really good for that.

[Lanx]

does it matter wtf it benches if all you're doing is web surfing? no it does not.

[tp4tissue]

does it matter wtf it benches if all you're doing is web surfing? no it does not.

Yes it does...

A faster cpu will be faster in EVERYTHING you use it for..

With respect to "old gen" parents,   the faster they get off the computer, the more time they can spend doing the old-people stuff they want to do..

[Lanx]

does it matter wtf it benches if all you're doing is web surfing? no it does not.

Yes it does...

A faster cpu will be faster in EVERYTHING you use it for..

With respect to "old gen" parents,   the faster they get off the computer, the more time they can spend doing the old-people stuff they want to do..

do you have some overclocking agenda that you just want to impose upon others for fun? otherwise recommending someone go over and nearly double their budget so you can see your oc greatness, doesn't help anyone.

[tp4tissue]

does it matter wtf it benches if all you're doing is web surfing? no it does not.

Yes it does...

A faster cpu will be faster in EVERYTHING you use it for..

With respect to "old gen" parents,   the faster they get off the computer, the more time they can spend doing the old-people stuff they want to do..

do you have some overclocking agenda that you just want to impose upon others for fun? otherwise recommending someone go over and nearly double their budget so you can see your oc greatness, doesn't help anyone.

momputers need immense CPU power..   else they start to complain, and call you up for tech support..

[Elrick]

Um... No?  This is madness...

Lian Li?

760 platinum?

maximus VI with a 4670?

Who the hell said anything about a plain 4670, if you bothered to read I mentioned a 4670K from the get go.

mmm I agree the 4670k is an OK.. compromise from the 4770k..

but honestly.. HT is really good for the type of apps that parents would use..

a billion apps that they forgot to close, ++ a bunch of spyware...  Hyperthreading is really good for that.

One thing you forgot to mention is that the Maximus VI Impact has;

• dedicated sound card
• m-PCIe slot
• has onboard wireless (and a far superior one at that compared to the PRO).

Hyperthreading is not really that much more superior in performance given the stats released by Intel comparing both cpu's (4670 and 4770) running at 3.5GHz together.
Given some nitrogen, we will then see which chip provides greater performance over each other, but for everyday web page scrolling, the 4670K is more than up to the task.

[tp4tissue]

Um... No?  This is madness...

Lian Li?

760 platinum?

maximus VI with a 4670?

Who the hell said anything about a plain 4670, if you bothered to read I mentioned a 4670K from the get go.

mmm I agree the 4670k is an OK.. compromise from the 4770k..

but honestly.. HT is really good for the type of apps that parents would use..

a billion apps that they forgot to close, ++ a bunch of spyware...  Hyperthreading is really good for that.

One thing you forgot to mention is that the Maximus VI Impact has;

• dedicated sound card
• m-PCIe slot
• has onboard wireless (and a far superior one at that compared to the PRO).

Hyperthreading is not really that much more superior in performance given the stats released by Intel comparing both cpu's (4670 and 4770) running at 3.5GHz together.
Given some nitrogen, we will then see which chip provides greater performance over each other, but for everyday web page scrolling, the 4670K is more than up to the task.

Um... yea, it's a decent- compromise.. though given the price difference.. I don't think it's that good of an idea.

also, these are old people we're talking here.. so their ears arn't so sharp.. no need for hq sound...


the 4770k also "usually" gets 100mhz higher OC than the 4670 at the same voltage.. 

I'd rather have the 100mhz extra + hyperthreading..  vs (mediocre sound card)..

[Novus]

I think that looks fine. I'd opt for a case from Lian li or fractal design though but that's just nit picking.

Or perhaps you might want to consider making a media server for your parents

[dirtyblacksocks]

Basically my parents need a new system, they do nothing but browse the internet lightly - so I'm going for as cheap as possible while still giving them some good speed.

Please check my work, let me know if there are any tweaks you would recommend in terms of giving them better compatibility, better speed, saving money, or putting money into better hardware.

Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PJrZ

Okay you want to show your parents, the ones that gave birth to you into this cold harsh world, protected you, schooled you and provided a home for you so that now you could show how much you love them, by giving them a cheap-arse PC?

Very nice, I know you're young hence you might have issues about hating your parents due to your infantile age, but as you grow older you will then realize how important they truly are to your existence.

Don't build anything unless you will be using it yourself for the next 4 to 6 years ahead.  If you don't want to use poor spec'ed rubbish, like you suggested (an i3), then up the spec to something decent for them. 

Get at least an - i5 4670K, - ASUS Maximus VI Impact Motherboard, - Corsair CMD16GX3M2A2400C10 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR3, -  240GB Intel SSD 530 Series - Western Digital SE 4TB WD4000F9YZ - Lian Li PC-Q08B Black HTPC Case (brilliant little case - high quality) and a Corsair AX760 Platinum Power Supply (I've got this one - superb).

If you can acquire all of these items for your parents I suspect they will be using this setup till the day they both die of old age.  Buy something decent rather than anything cheap because it shows how much you really care about them.  Remember they don't live forever and why cheapen your reputation now when they will always remember this decent thing that you've done for them.  Plus, it makes good karma for you in a later life  .

What the **** is this ridiculous ****? I'm 31 years old, I'm a Disabled Veteran, you know nothing about me - so kindly quit running your suck. Jesus christ, I thought people on this forum were supposed to be kind and helpful? What kind of reply is that?

[Elrick]

I think that looks fine. I'd opt for a case from Lian li or fractal design though but that's just nit picking.

Or perhaps you might want to consider making a media server for your parents

I had the op's BitFenix Phenom Case and it's as cheap and flimsy as a crisp pack bought from Coles.

You want something that will last and a Lian Li will be around for years and can be used for future upgrades as well  .

[Elrick]

What the **** is this ridiculous ****? I'm 31 years old, I'm a Disabled Veteran, you know nothing about me - so kindly quit running your suck.

And why didn't you mention that first up?

[tp4tissue]

Basically my parents need a new system, they do nothing but browse the internet lightly - so I'm going for as cheap as possible while still giving them some good speed.

Please check my work, let me know if there are any tweaks you would recommend in terms of giving them better compatibility, better speed, saving money, or putting money into better hardware.

Thanks!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2PJrZ

Okay you want to show your parents, the ones that gave birth to you into this cold harsh world, protected you, schooled you and provided a home for you so that now you could show how much you love them, by giving them a cheap-arse PC?

Very nice, I know you're young hence you might have issues about hating your parents due to your infantile age, but as you grow older you will then realize how important they truly are to your existence.

Don't build anything unless you will be using it yourself for the next 4 to 6 years ahead.  If you don't want to use poor spec'ed rubbish, like you suggested (an i3), then up the spec to something decent for them. 

Get at least an - i5 4670K, - ASUS Maximus VI Impact Motherboard, - Corsair CMD16GX3M2A2400C10 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR3, -  240GB Intel SSD 530 Series - Western Digital SE 4TB WD4000F9YZ - Lian Li PC-Q08B Black HTPC Case (brilliant little case - high quality) and a Corsair AX760 Platinum Power Supply (I've got this one - superb).

If you can acquire all of these items for your parents I suspect they will be using this setup till the day they both die of old age.  Buy something decent rather than anything cheap because it shows how much you really care about them.  Remember they don't live forever and why cheapen your reputation now when they will always remember this decent thing that you've done for them.  Plus, it makes good karma for you in a later life  .

What the **** is this ridiculous ****? I'm 31 years old, I'm a Disabled Veteran, you know nothing about me - so kindly quit running your suck. Jesus christ, I thought people on this forum were supposed to be kind and helpful? What kind of reply is that?

He's not the worst person ever.... and I'm sure he's joking... db socks..

We're mostly good people...


But the numbers don't lie...  You get the most for your money by going with 4770k and overclocking

[dirtyblacksocks]

^^^^  That's all wrong... 



OVERCLOCKING is a requirement

This will get you to 4.8ghz




4770k  + delid mod.    $300

asus z87 pro               $150 ish

8gb 2333mhz ram,     $80

ati  R260x                    $140 ish

Cooler, noctua NH D14.  $60 on sale

450 watt psu,               ~$50

240gb M500 SSD,         $120

3TB toshiba low rpm 5900, $90 on sale.


Computer case, something $30


Total ~$ 1020...


They can probably roll this kit for the next 7 years.

If you get the i3,  they'll be out of luck in 2 years.

ZOMFG!   This is horrible advice.  No wait, it's the Worst ADVICE EVAR!!!

You have no operating system?  How you gonna use internet?  From BIOS?  Maybe on planet tp4 they don't need OS, but here on Earth, our computers need software.

This build needs linux to keep speeds fast, hard drive healthy, and to save mom and dad from being victims of hackz0rz.  Do you want the Iranian terrorist hackz0rz to steal your college money?  tp4 lives at home and goes to local community college at night, so he doesn't care about losing his parents life savings.  But you should!

That original build list looked pretty good to me.  You spent the whole $600, and maxed out value in every area, IMO.  If you want to increase the budget by +$100, I would suggest the Core i5-4670K, which is the best bang-for-buck processor you can get.  Seems a shame to pass that one up, if you can squeeze it into the budget.  Then you get tp4's future proofing, without the overpricing of more expensive cpu's.

I'm taking that into consideration and upping it to an i5 k series CPU so I can overclock it in the future, and drop a video card in it in the future.

I have Windows 7 to install on the system. I've been building computers since I was 11 - this isn't necessarily directed at you so much as it is to inform everyone here that just because I didn't list items in the build doesn't mean I'm handing them some bare bones piece of trash. They came to me with a budget of $600 - I tried to put it within that budget while including items I already have to put into the PC on my own.

At this point, if this topic can be locked - that would probably be best. Some of the replies in here are ridiculous. I don't know if some of you are just so out of touch with the world that you've forgotten what it is to be civil in a conversation, or if you're intentionally trolling, but I'm done.

To everyone who offered constructive criticism, thanks much.

To everyone who basically bagged on the system and insinuated I'm a child who doesn't appreciate his parents - yeah, kindly pull your head out of your ass if you ever address me again on these forums. I shouldn't have to dictate my life story or background to some one when asking for a review of hardware compatibility in a build.

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I was only trying to halp.... !!

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holy crap....i hope people are being REALLY sarcastic in this thread.  this is way over the reasonable threshold for verbal abuse.


but to give you some better advice:

http://products.ncix.com/detail/intel-nuc-boxdn2820fykh0-celeron-n2820-4d-94184.htm

web browsing and burning CDs are like the lowliest activities you can do (your computer with the right firmware can literally browse the internet during it's sleep mode phase).



also, you can lock your own thread.  then go through the thread, find the people who gave you reasonable advice and then PM them for more details.