Obesity, your take ?

[tp4tissue]

So I just watched  Fed Up, the recent obesity-scare film.


Some good points..

Food is a powerful psycho active stimulant (fairly recent research)

Marketing of food is on behalf of Private Interests that care for Profit above all else (your health)




You put ^^ those two things together..  and it becomes easily possible for people to spiral out of control in consumption.

When someone is eating to Feel good, rather than to refuel...



Trouble is.. How can one escape food, it's not at all possible, the DRUG that it has become is all around us, and it can not be avoided like say, cigarettes or cocaine..




Tp4 personally thinks, this is a problem that will solve itself, because the food abusers like drug abusers will on average die young.. even between the ages of 10-25..

So once enough of these young people die (yes very sad, but we can't reach all of them in time, it's already begun).... the Public will finally have (I hesitate to use the term) Martyrs to rally behind..


I highly doubt it's possible to save the people that don't want to be saved, or don't know they need to be saved TODAY... because it goes against basic human motivations....


To eat is LIFE...   the only thing that is stronger than that would be,  To eat is DEATH..  and until people can readily witness and accept such a phenomenon..  they'll probably just keep eating..  that's the nature of addiction..


How many smokers had to die, and are still dieing today,  now that Cigarettes are finally being recognized for what it is.

[JPG]

Eat a lot of fibers. You will feel full so fast you won't be able to eat so much. Everyone can do it, but yea all this **** food that is being sold with so much sugar and/or bad fats...

[tp4tissue]

Eat a lot of fibers. You will feel full so fast you won't be able to eat so much. Everyone can do it, but yea all this **** food that is being sold with so much sugar and/or bad fats...

They could.. but they wouldn't want to..   that's been the main issue..   WE KNOW how to fix the physical problem itself..

We just can't motivate people to do it, because the neural pathways in their brain is already rigged to overeat..


The physical action to a smoker's problem is simple,   stop smoking...     but that's not the whole solution.. they have to overcome the mental addiction....



Number one cause of relapse,  staying in an  environment full of temptations

Number two cause of relapse,  alcohol consumption..



BOTH those things are in abundance when it comes to FOOD... we got wine with red meats during dinner..

we got the dinner itself..

[heedpantsnow]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

[tp4tissue]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

Ok.. so the Real research on food marketing works like this..

At a young age, you are exposed to food marketing.. that advertise a certain type of food..  the super-sweets, the extra-greasy..

They don't advertise veggies and fruits, because the margins are much lower relative to refined foods that don't perish quickly....


So now, the kids are programed via their favorite cartoon characters and (sexy) actors.. to associate positively with Junk Food..



When you grow up on this type of media..  Specifically targeting young audiences,  it becomes much harder later as an ADULT   to make better decisions....


My point is.. it's not just FAT PEOPLE blaming marketing..   the science show, that marketing is indeed powerful and has in fact affected people deeply..

[heedpantsnow]

Dude. I don't know why I even participate in threads with you. I get what your saying. The marketers aren't in charge of what crap you put into your own mouth. You are. No matter what they say or do. You are still in charge of your life and choices.

[heedpantsnow]

Do I put my new iPhone 6 in the microwave because someone told me to?  If I did, who is to blame for my smoldering useless phone?  Them?  NO!  I am.

Yes, this is actually happening: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/UVOCasLT9z8/story01.htm

[tp4tissue]

Dude. I don't know why I even participate in threads with you. I get what your saying. The marketers aren't in charge of what crap you put into your own mouth. You are. No matter what they say or do. You are still in charge of your life and choices.

No, you misunderstand..


They target Children.. look at the typical food ads, for cookies and cereal.. all of which are junkfood.


Children are NOT adults..  They are stupid, they have no background information, they've yet to master critical thinking, they don't have nearly as much will-power..


Food marketing GRABS kids at a young age..     This dramatically hinders how effective this child will be at curbing entrenched eating habits later in life..


The newest research clearly shows, that FOOD is psychoactive, and is as addictive (mentally) as cocaine... <- I looked into this, didn't believe it at first, but it seems to check out..



You are in charge, yes.. but they've made you into a bad decision maker from a very young age, while you were weak and impressionable..

[tp4tissue]

Do I put my new iPhone 6 in the microwave because someone told me to?  If I did, who is to blame for my smoldering useless phone?  Them?  NO!  I am.

Yes, this is actually happening: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/UVOCasLT9z8/story01.htm

Let's say you're building the foundations to a house..    instead of brick.. they said, make it out of straw..


Your entire life.. they tell you to use straw..   THEY, the food marketers had a hand in determining the foundation of society,  our children's eating habits..

THAT is a problem.. and it's real..   and it closely mimics cigarette advertising and their strategy...


FOOD is killing America...   

[noisyturtle]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

[Lanx]

kids are fat, cuz parents are lazy.

it's like pets, i see friends with fat pets, i later find out that these pets have access to unlimited food, they have those auto-feeders that dispense food and continuous water bowls.

these pets are so fat, that when one cat had to go on a diet and lost 50% weight, the skin was stretched so much on this cat that skin was dragging on the ground while it walked.

this is basically why kids are fat, parents give up and let kids feed themselves with snacks.

parents give up and feed kids whatever they want at meal time, just as long as they eat.

parents give up and take their little bastards with them to the supermarket and let them pick out their own food.

kids are dumb, they will always be dumb, it's up to the parents to un-dumb these kids, that starts with making proper food choices.

[JPG]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

What you say is true, but at the same time some of the cheapest food is very healty (beans for example).


One of the problem with bad food is that they are full of stuff that the human body, afters millenium of having to store fat in order to survive, is just eager to eat in order to accumulate this precious fat. And it has been proved that eating bad food can modify your brain in order to get satisfaction from it. The good news is that the reverse can be done with healthy food.


The sad news is that while there's some effort to incite people to eat better, there's so much publicity for bad products and so many things that should be banned from groceries are tolerated.


Cereals full of sugar aimed at kids, come on... and trust me, they cost more than the more healthy ones. The more healthy ones just taste like "nature" once you got used to these sugar rush varieties.

[Lanx]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

no this is also false, ppl are pricing **** at rip me off whole foods or some ****.

and also fast food is not cheaper, per pound, just easier and faster.

[tp4tissue]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

no this is also false, ppl are pricing **** at rip me off whole foods or some ****.

and also fast food is not cheaper, per pound, just easier and faster.

easier and faster  = cheaper..   TIME COST...  your brain evaluates this without you even knowing.. That's a HUGE part of what Laziness actually IS..   it's your brain evaluating how much TIME it takes you to do something.

[Fragil1ty]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

[hwood34]

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

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[tp4tissue]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

Yes fragility  , a fat person is capable of making decisions..

But the discussion here is the fact that Food companies do stack the ODDS against you..

Starting from a young age, bombarding kids with very catchy information pushing them towards unhealthy choices..


It's fine and great that YOU made it out solid..  but the world's about more than oneself, and if we consider society, of which we live in..

There is indeed a need to re-evaluate the type of informational assertiveness a private company is allowed to impression upon the youth.

[Fragil1ty]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

Yes fragility  , a fat person is capable of making decisions..

But the discussion here is the fact that Food companies do stack the ODDS against you..

Starting from a young age, bombarding kids with very catchy information pushing them towards unhealthy choices..


It's fine and great that YOU made it out solid..  but the world's about more than oneself, and if we consider society, of which we live in..

There is indeed a need to re-evaluate the type of informational assertiveness a private company is allowed to impression upon the youth.

Oh I do apologise, I thought it was just an open discussion on what we think about obesity as a generic subject and what not, I must have jumped the gun there.

I do agree with what you're saying in regards to the food companies though, enticing you with all these lovely foods, fancy logos, fancy advertisements, you don't realise until later (after you're hooked) what was inside and sometimes by that time, it's too late.

Damn.

[noisyturtle]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

no this is also false, ppl are pricing **** at rip me off whole foods or some ****.

and also fast food is not cheaper, per pound, just easier and faster.

OK, little background on me: when I was 16 I got prescribed some medications that resulted in my gaining a ton of weight that I carried around until about 23. At my heaviest I clocked in at 367lbs. Over the following 2 years I had virtually no excess income, and held a very active job (concert security) and was able to get my weight all the way down to 169 (at my lowest.) That time frame I was probably eating the least healthy I ever had. Every meal was $1 Banquet frozen meals or Top Ramen for nearly the entirety of those 2-3 years because I had a minuscule food budget and that was all I was able to afford per week. After a while I got sick of it and started only eating once a day, and working on my feet chasing drunks for about 10hrs every day. That's how I lost the weight, not eating and staying active. If I ate 3 square meals of that and led a sedentary lifestyle I would gain much of the weight back. In fact after leaving that job and going off to school that's exactly what happened, and I gained about 100lbs back over the past 4 years eating much the same diet.

It's actually depressing me right nowthat I've been eating such crap for the past 8 years.

[tp4tissue]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

Yes fragility  , a fat person is capable of making decisions..

But the discussion here is the fact that Food companies do stack the ODDS against you..

Starting from a young age, bombarding kids with very catchy information pushing them towards unhealthy choices..


It's fine and great that YOU made it out solid..  but the world's about more than oneself, and if we consider society, of which we live in..

There is indeed a need to re-evaluate the type of informational assertiveness a private company is allowed to impression upon the youth.

Oh I do apologise, I thought it was just an open discussion on what we think about obesity as a generic subject and what not, I must have jumped the gun there.

I do agree with what you're saying in regards to the food companies though, enticing you with all these lovely foods, fancy logos, fancy advertisements, you don't realise until later (after you're hooked) what was inside and sometimes by that time, it's too late.

Damn.

It is an open discussion..

but I've been keen to make sure this doesn't turn into a Fat-h8 thread...

because..  there's an enormous following of people who like to group-h8 in order to feel better about themselves..

[Fragil1ty]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

Yes fragility  , a fat person is capable of making decisions..

But the discussion here is the fact that Food companies do stack the ODDS against you..

Starting from a young age, bombarding kids with very catchy information pushing them towards unhealthy choices..


It's fine and great that YOU made it out solid..  but the world's about more than oneself, and if we consider society, of which we live in..

There is indeed a need to re-evaluate the type of informational assertiveness a private company is allowed to impression upon the youth.

Oh I do apologise, I thought it was just an open discussion on what we think about obesity as a generic subject and what not, I must have jumped the gun there.

I do agree with what you're saying in regards to the food companies though, enticing you with all these lovely foods, fancy logos, fancy advertisements, you don't realise until later (after you're hooked) what was inside and sometimes by that time, it's too late.

Damn.

It is an open discussion..

but I've been keen to make sure this doesn't turn into a Fat-h8 thread...

because..  there's an enormous following of people who like to group-h8 in order to feel better about themselves..

Oh I feel you there my friend, personally, if you're happy in your own skin? then who honestly cares, I mean, I'm a firm believer of taking care of yourself, but if you want to eat a lot and maybe be more on that heavier side? who am I too judge?

Everyone leads their own path.

[tp4tissue]

Fat people blame food marketing. If that was the problem, then everyone would be fat. The problem is that we eat too much of bad stuff. Me included.

The problem is convince and cost for people under a certain income threshold. Rich people eat healthier and generally are healthier in part because the buying options for them are far superior.

no this is also false, ppl are pricing **** at rip me off whole foods or some ****.

and also fast food is not cheaper, per pound, just easier and faster.

OK, little background on me: when I was 16 I got prescribed some medications that resulted in my gaining a ton of weight that I carried around until about 23. At my heaviest I clocked in at 367lbs. Over the following 2 years I had virtually no excess income, and held a very active job (concert security) and was able to get my weight all the way down to 169 (at my lowest.) That time frame I was probably eating the least healthy I ever had. Every meal was $1 Banquet frozen meals or Top Ramen for nearly the entirety of those 2-3 years because I had a minuscule food budget and that was all I was able to afford per week. After a while I got sick of it and started only eating once a day, and working on my feet chasing drunks for about 10hrs every day. That's how I lost the weight, not eating and staying active. If I ate 3 square meals of that and led a sedentary lifestyle I would gain much of the weight back. In fact after leaving that job and going off to school that's exactly what happened, and I gained about 100lbs back over the past 4 years eating much the same diet.

It's actually depressing me right nowthat I've been eating such crap for the past 8 years.

Hey noisy , maybe you can try getting one of those internet workout sponsors..   Seems like you're at least experienced enough about your own body's potential   without delving into the hopelessness that some other big-people get..

You just need some motivating..

[tp4tissue]

I just want to clarify that I am a relatively fit human being, I go to the gym 3 times a week and maintain a healthy diet, I do this because I want to feel good, look good and above all - be healthy.

Onto the actual topic at hand, I think if you reach a point in your life where you become Obese? It's your own fault. You ate that much to put yourself in that position, no-one forced you to eat and eat and eat and eat, it was a personal choice.

A lot of people tend to comfort eat don't they? When they're sad, depressed, lonely, unhappy what have you, that's a dangerous road. I do understand that not everyone has the same metabolism and that's also a factor, but the fact remains when you're eating nothing but ****ty food (fast food etc) and drinking soda/pop all the time, you have no-one to blame but yourself.

I have a lot of respect for fat/overweight people who want to change and get in the gym and do so.

Hard work is ALWAYS rewarded.

Yes fragility  , a fat person is capable of making decisions..

But the discussion here is the fact that Food companies do stack the ODDS against you..

Starting from a young age, bombarding kids with very catchy information pushing them towards unhealthy choices..


It's fine and great that YOU made it out solid..  but the world's about more than oneself, and if we consider society, of which we live in..

There is indeed a need to re-evaluate the type of informational assertiveness a private company is allowed to impression upon the youth.

Oh I do apologise, I thought it was just an open discussion on what we think about obesity as a generic subject and what not, I must have jumped the gun there.

I do agree with what you're saying in regards to the food companies though, enticing you with all these lovely foods, fancy logos, fancy advertisements, you don't realise until later (after you're hooked) what was inside and sometimes by that time, it's too late.

Damn.

It is an open discussion..

but I've been keen to make sure this doesn't turn into a Fat-h8 thread...

because..  there's an enormous following of people who like to group-h8 in order to feel better about themselves..

Oh I feel you there my friend, personally, if you're happy in your own skin? then who honestly cares, I mean, I'm a firm believer of taking care of yourself, but if you want to eat a lot and maybe be more on that heavier side? who am I too judge?

Everyone leads their own path.

haha.. well, it's always a tough balance,  and difficult to feel out where the line is between TOO much wasted Fitness and TOO much Relaxed-ness..

But we're coming into the know,  where 12yr olds being obese is too-much relaxed..  this much we're sure of..

[paicrai]

as long as it stays away from me i don't care

[tp4tissue]

as long as it stays away from me i don't care

Let's say you live in America...

America is what it is because our Dollar speaks...

Our Dollar speaks, because we have Nuclear missiles, and a strong military..


If obesity continues, fewer and fewer fit people will exist..

This will be crippling to the military, not only are they experiencing a dearth of applicants due to economic shifts, they will now have to deal with people who can't join up due to crippling diseases..


With a weak occupational force (soldiers on the ground) or the lack of one,  America will not be able to impose its will on foreign nations that we wish to Borrow money and resources from.. (middle east)..


THEN the Dollar's value collapses because other countries sees our weakness..


THEN China says.. hey, my military is 4 million people..   suddenly the Yuan rises.. 



Again I say this to you.. Obesity IS your problem..   if you're ok with Learning Chinese.. I guess it's fine.. but if you want to stick to the language you already know...  Obesity Matters.

[paicrai]

are you even sane

[microsoft windows]

Excessive use of Apple products can increase one's risk of obesity and other health-related problems including cancer and schizophrenia. Good reasons to use Windows.

[C5Allroad]

I go by the logic if you're active and or swimming like I do for two hours a day, you can eat whatever you want, as long as you don't eat too much of it.
Like cookies, chips, and such.

[RED-404]

I'm fat because um, well, I was a latchkey kid and ate too much, my fault I have yet to work it off, but I haven't gained weight sense I was 13.
If you put it on early in life its hard as hell to lose. But I will.

[Malphas]

as long as it stays away from me i don't care

Let's say you live in America...

America is what it is because our Dollar speaks...

Our Dollar speaks, because we have Nuclear missiles, and a strong military..


If obesity continues, fewer and fewer fit people will exist..

This will be crippling to the military, not only are they experiencing a dearth of applicants due to economic shifts, they will now have to deal with people who can't join up due to crippling diseases..


With a weak occupational force (soldiers on the ground) or the lack of one,  America will not be able to impose its will on foreign nations that we wish to Borrow money and resources from.. (middle east)..


THEN the Dollar's value collapses because other countries sees our weakness..


THEN China says.. hey, my military is 4 million people..   suddenly the Yuan rises.. 



Again I say this to you.. Obesity IS your problem..   if you're ok with Learning Chinese.. I guess it's fine.. but if you want to stick to the language you already know...  Obesity Matters.

It's really amusing to watch tp4 take on subjects he clearly hasn't even the slightest knowledge of with these incredibly bizarre and convoluted theories.

[bazemk1979]

I've been living in US for quite some time and I have to admit we don't have the such size of people that live here back home. It makes me sad when I see people in the food marts riding that handicap cart, probably age around 25-30 and the cart is filled up with junk food. First of all I blame parents the way they raised their kids and now they are all grown ups doing the same mom and dad taught them to do....

In my family there was always cooked food, we ate everything, but everything was cooked at home, so I grew up by eating healthy food and if after work I get hungry and there is nothing around decent to buy, I might grab a burger and fries just to hold me for a bit, but then when I get home I eat proper to fill my self up.

I still scratch my head how people prefer fast food over cooked meal, not even restaurant can give you that taste once when you learn ur ways around the kitchen. I'm a big eater, I have a physical job and I work out also, so my daily calories intake must be around 5000 calories, I probably intake same  or more then people here in the US  that are 300lbs+.... If I would of eat outside only like many people do, even go to the cheapo MCDonalds or equivalent to I will waste too much money for food, probably somewhere $200-$250 a week, instead I do groceries, cook, eat well and plenty and feel great!!!! and spend around 70-100 bucks a week.

Here is the problem with Americans, sorry I have to say this but many of you are lazy to do anything.... so fast food is an easy gateway for you all.

Few days a go I posted some pics in the Many faces thread and people got angry LOL, its nuts, and no its no hard work, its lifestyle: buy groceries,cook, stay active = feel good. Answer is very simple, stop being lazy!!!

Here is another pic lol, don't get pissed, I'm 6 feet tall and Im 200lbs!!!! you heard correct 200lbs!!!! that's still heavy...

[Lanx]

wtf why are eskimos so fat?

[The Mad Professor]

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wtf why are eskimos so fat?

I would hazard to guess that it's because people in very cold climates tend to put on more weight for insulation purposes. As to the Southern States, I blame it on the heat. Hot and humid weather tends to make people feel lethargic. Combine that with a typical diet of fried foods, and people get fat. That's my guess, anyway...

[RED-404]

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wtf why are eskimos so fat?

I would hazard to guess that it's because people in very cold climates tend to put on more weight for insulation purposes. As to the Southern States, I blame it on the heat. Hot and humid weather tends to make people feel lethargic. Combine that with a typical diet of fried foods, and people get fat. That's my guess, anyway...

And for a short time every year in southern Alaska is hot as hell and humid as **** I'm talking worse than the tropics. The ground is basically rotting tundra, peat mud and mosquito larvae. I forgot to mention the smell, god the smell. Other than that its a great place to live.

[The Mad Professor]

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wtf why are eskimos so fat?

I would hazard to guess that it's because people in very cold climates tend to put on more weight for insulation purposes. As to the Southern States, I blame it on the heat. Hot and humid weather tends to make people feel lethargic. Combine that with a typical diet of fried foods, and people get fat. That's my guess, anyway...

And for a short time every year in southern Alaska is hot as hell and humid as **** I'm talking worse than the tropics. The ground is basically rotting tundra, peat mud and mosquito larvae. I forgot to mention the smell, god the smell. Other than that its a great place to live.

*****, please. While I will admit that Juneau can get hot at around 90 degrees, it ain't nothing on the Gulf Coast. During the summer, 90 degrees is low to mild. Temps topping the triple digits are not uncommon.

It just seems worse because Alaskans experience such a radical difference in temperatures between summer and winter.

[RED-404]

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wtf why are eskimos so fat?

I would hazard to guess that it's because people in very cold climates tend to put on more weight for insulation purposes. As to the Southern States, I blame it on the heat. Hot and humid weather tends to make people feel lethargic. Combine that with a typical diet of fried foods, and people get fat. That's my guess, anyway...

And for a short time every year in southern Alaska is hot as hell and humid as **** I'm talking worse than the tropics. The ground is basically rotting tundra, peat mud and mosquito larvae. I forgot to mention the smell, god the smell. Other than that its a great place to live.

*****, please. While I will admit that Juneau can get hot at around 90 degrees, it ain't nothing on the Gulf Coast. During the summer, 90 degrees is low to mild. Temps topping the triple digits are not uncommon.

Ok, so I may be a little bias toward AK. I was forced to go live with my uncle for a few years as a kid. Having to live someplace you don't want to be, with someone you hate can skew your perception a little-bit.

[Altis]

The food industry wants people to enjoy their food the best, so they are saturated in sugar, salt, and fat.

Those three key things are what tells us "hey, this is good", but they are also terrible for you in excess (with fat being supposedly the least harmful if it's the right kind of fats).

My solution for healthier eating in general was to get hooked on raw vegetables and fruit. If you reduce your salt/sugar intake, you become more sensitive to it, and you enjoy healthier foods more than the less healthy ones.

It's like being freed from a vicious cycle. Being able to grab a bowl of kale, grape tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, etc... for a snack or lunch is great.

[nahka]

I really feel like I should be fat because of the way I live.

But I'm not so that's good.

[noisyturtle]

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wtf why are eskimos so fat?

I would hazard to guess that it's because people in very cold climates tend to put on more weight for insulation purposes. As to the Southern States, I blame it on the heat. Hot and humid weather tends to make people feel lethargic. Combine that with a typical diet of fried foods, and people get fat. That's my guess, anyway...

They are a naturally rotund people, just like Somoan Islanders. I don't think I've ever seen a fit Eskimo, it's not in their genetic code.

[engicoder]

I go by the logic if you're active and or swimming like I do for two hours a day, you can eat whatever you want, as long as you don't eat too much of it.
Like cookies, chips, and such.

I agree with this... two points:
1. Exercise on a regular basis
2. Eat what you like, but don't eat too much at one sitting.

[noisyturtle]

1. Exercise on a regular basis

Nope

2. Eat what you like

OK

but don't eat too much at one sitting.

Too late

[tp4tissue]

I like the way things have been going..

Not eating too much is KEY....


Modern food is the equivalent of TURBO fuel..

[baldgye]

Fat parents with fat children should be convicted of child abuse

[azhdar]

Fat parents with fat children should be convicted of child abuse

can't you see that eating fastfood instead of cooking healthy for their offspring is in their genes

[tp4tissue]

The food industry wants people to enjoy their food the best, so they are saturated in sugar, salt, and fat.

Those three key things are what tells us "hey, this is good", but they are also terrible for you in excess (with fat being supposedly the least harmful if it's the right kind of fats).

My solution for healthier eating in general was to get hooked on raw vegetables and fruit. If you reduce your salt/sugar intake, you become more sensitive to it, and you enjoy healthier foods more than the less healthy ones.

It's like being freed from a vicious cycle. Being able to grab a bowl of kale, grape tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, etc... for a snack or lunch is great.

Just to be clear...   

Getting Hooked on Raw vegetable and Fruits is nearly IMPOSSIBLE...


Refined foods, and fast foods  ranks like cocaine..   Raw veggie and fruits,  mayyybe coffee, tops...


Is it a good idea to eat raw veggie and fruits..  absolutely.. do so please...


In face of refined foods however,   you really have to be precise about what you consider HOOKED ON...

[Malphas]

I've never found cocaine to be especially addictive.

[paicrai]

I've never found cocaine to be especially addictive.

good ol whacky malphunctionass snortin "massive amounts of cocaine" and being "totally fine" again

[Altis]

The food industry wants people to enjoy their food the best, so they are saturated in sugar, salt, and fat.

Those three key things are what tells us "hey, this is good", but they are also terrible for you in excess (with fat being supposedly the least harmful if it's the right kind of fats).

My solution for healthier eating in general was to get hooked on raw vegetables and fruit. If you reduce your salt/sugar intake, you become more sensitive to it, and you enjoy healthier foods more than the less healthy ones.

It's like being freed from a vicious cycle. Being able to grab a bowl of kale, grape tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, etc... for a snack or lunch is great.

Just to be clear...   

Getting Hooked on Raw vegetable and Fruits is nearly IMPOSSIBLE...


Refined foods, and fast foods  ranks like cocaine..   Raw veggie and fruits,  mayyybe coffee, tops...


Is it a good idea to eat raw veggie and fruits..  absolutely.. do so please...


In face of refined foods however,   you really have to be precise about what you consider HOOKED ON...

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To be more clear, it isn't really hooked on in the sense that would apply to most addictions.

I've just found that once you get used to the good stuff (and I mean cutting the rest out completely or it doesn't work), it actually becomes difficult to eat the bad stuff.

For example, I used to be able to eat a crate of chicken McNuggets.  I haven't eaten fast food (apart from Subway) for years, and the idea of it now makes me feel sick. In fact, even Subway tastes of salt now.

Once you're used to the taste and feeling of eating well, it's more difficult to eat the bad stuff.

Still takes endless willpower to avoid things like ice cream.... Oh how I adore ice cream.. :-X

[tp4tissue]

The food industry wants people to enjoy their food the best, so they are saturated in sugar, salt, and fat.

Those three key things are what tells us "hey, this is good", but they are also terrible for you in excess (with fat being supposedly the least harmful if it's the right kind of fats).

My solution for healthier eating in general was to get hooked on raw vegetables and fruit. If you reduce your salt/sugar intake, you become more sensitive to it, and you enjoy healthier foods more than the less healthy ones.

It's like being freed from a vicious cycle. Being able to grab a bowl of kale, grape tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, etc... for a snack or lunch is great.

Just to be clear...   

Getting Hooked on Raw vegetable and Fruits is nearly IMPOSSIBLE...


Refined foods, and fast foods  ranks like cocaine..   Raw veggie and fruits,  mayyybe coffee, tops...


Is it a good idea to eat raw veggie and fruits..  absolutely.. do so please...


In face of refined foods however,   you really have to be precise about what you consider HOOKED ON...

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To be more clear, it isn't really hooked on in the sense that would apply to most addictions.

I've just found that once you get used to the good stuff (and I mean cutting the rest out completely or it doesn't work), it actually becomes difficult to eat the bad stuff.

For example, I used to be able to eat a crate of chicken McNuggets.  I haven't eaten fast food (apart from Subway) for years, and the idea of it now makes me feel sick. In fact, even Subway tastes of salt now.

Once you're used to the taste and feeling of eating well, it's more difficult to eat the bad stuff.

Still takes endless willpower to avoid things like ice cream.... Oh how I adore ice cream.. :-X

I'm gonna have to call bull **** on the nuggets..

Yes.. you may well have created a psychological aversion to bad calories.. This is GREAT..


But,  you can not override your base programming which tells you to eat a crate of nuggets...

that yearning  the same type that develops for cocaine and heroine will be there for the rest of your life...


Sit you in a room for 4 hours with a crate of hot steamy nuggets.... you'll break...

[trizkut]

The food industry wants people to enjoy their food the best, so they are saturated in sugar, salt, and fat.

Those three key things are what tells us "hey, this is good", but they are also terrible for you in excess (with fat being supposedly the least harmful if it's the right kind of fats).

My solution for healthier eating in general was to get hooked on raw vegetables and fruit. If you reduce your salt/sugar intake, you become more sensitive to it, and you enjoy healthier foods more than the less healthy ones.

It's like being freed from a vicious cycle. Being able to grab a bowl of kale, grape tomatoes, broccoli, carrots, etc... for a snack or lunch is great.

Just to be clear...   

Getting Hooked on Raw vegetable and Fruits is nearly IMPOSSIBLE...


Refined foods, and fast foods  ranks like cocaine..   Raw veggie and fruits,  mayyybe coffee, tops...


Is it a good idea to eat raw veggie and fruits..  absolutely.. do so please...


In face of refined foods however,   you really have to be precise about what you consider HOOKED ON...

Show Image

To be more clear, it isn't really hooked on in the sense that would apply to most addictions.

I've just found that once you get used to the good stuff (and I mean cutting the rest out completely or it doesn't work), it actually becomes difficult to eat the bad stuff.

For example, I used to be able to eat a crate of chicken McNuggets.  I haven't eaten fast food (apart from Subway) for years, and the idea of it now makes me feel sick. In fact, even Subway tastes of salt now.

Once you're used to the taste and feeling of eating well, it's more difficult to eat the bad stuff.

Still takes endless willpower to avoid things like ice cream.... Oh how I adore ice cream.. :-X

It's possible to get physically addicted to almost anything if you do it regularly enough.  You'll experience withdrawal symptoms just like any psychological addiction, so be careful when binging on any one thing, especially things like fast food.  Variety is key.