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« on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:02:28 »


I have no idea what I'm doing

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Re: HELP
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:03:12 »
we know

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Re: HELP
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:04:07 »
Good luck!
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Re: HELP
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:04:57 »
I GOTTA PUT THESE SPRINGS

IN THESE BLACKS
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Re: HELP
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:07:18 »
Everybody could use some help from time to time...
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Re: HELP
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:07:57 »
Everybody could use some help from time to time...
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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:09:01 »
UPDATE

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Re: HELP
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:09:35 »
You're modding a QFR? My condolences.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:10:57 »
I thought you said you were putting 62g's in your Filco?
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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:14:30 »
I thought you said you were putting 62g's in your Filco?

CHANGED MY MIND
You're modding a QFR? My condolences.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:15:42 »
HAVEN'T BURNED IT OR MYSELF YET

I see you've somehow managed to toggle Caps Lock permanently on. Looks like you're off to a bad start.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:16:17 »
I thought you said you were putting 62g's in your Filco?

CHANGED MY MIND
You're modding a QFR? My condolences.

HAVEN'T BURNED IT OR MYSELF YET
Better to potentially ruin a QFR than a Filco I guess, good call.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:17:08 »
I thought you said you were putting 62g's in your Filco?

CHANGED MY MIND
You're modding a QFR? My condolences.

HAVEN'T BURNED IT OR MYSELF YET

TOO MUCH YELLING
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Re: HELP
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:18:16 »
I thought you said you were putting 62g's in your Filco?

CHANGED MY MIND
You're modding a QFR? My condolences.

HAVEN'T BURNED IT OR MYSELF YET

TOO MUCH YELLING

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Re: HELP
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:19:06 »
Quote from: Photekq
i know people who think salt is spicy

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Re: HELP
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Re: HELP
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:23:12 »
UPDATE: BURNED SELF
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Re: HELP
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:24:12 »
put some windex on it.
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Re: HELP
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:24:42 »
THE FEMINIST ILLUMINATI

I will literally **** you raw paicrai, I hope you're legal by the time I meet you.
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good **** go౦ԁ ****👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌**** right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯  i say so 💯  thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good ****

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Re: HELP
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:29:54 »
Safety Tip #1: If you touch the tip, you will let go very quickly!
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Re: HELP
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:31:59 »
Safety Tip #1: If you touch the tip, you will let go very quickly!

But else would you know if it's hot enough ?

inb4 ****ty paicrai post
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:49:29 »
inb4 ****ty paicrai post
suck a muzzle, gob****e i wasnt going to say anything until you had to **** it all up  :-*

inb4 doesnt get the point until he reads this
THE FEMINIST ILLUMINATI

I will literally **** you raw paicrai, I hope you're legal by the time I meet you.
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good **** go౦ԁ ****👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌**** right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯  i say so 💯  thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good ****

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:52:42 »
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Re: HELP
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:58:46 »
Safety Tip #1: If you touch the tip, you will let go very quickly!

paicrai say: if paicrai touch tip, he never let go
thats exactly how gay i am :cool:
THE FEMINIST ILLUMINATI

I will literally **** you raw paicrai, I hope you're legal by the time I meet you.
👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good **** go౦ԁ ****👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌**** right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯  i say so 💯  thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good ****

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Re: HELP
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 10:59:17 »
Safety Tip #1: If you touch the tip, you will let go very quickly!

paicrai say: if paicrai touch tip, he instantly let go
FTFY
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Re: HELP
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:03:16 »
STOP BASHING PAICRAI

WE HAVE 77 MORE SWITCHES TO DESOLDER
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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:11:49 »
Safety Tip #1: If you touch the tip, you will let go very quickly!

paicrai say: if paicrai touch tip, he never let go

Well played.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:20:04 »
MELTED A POST ABD BURNED THE PCB

RIP F9 KEY
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Re: HELP
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:26:25 »
Fix that Caps Lock too man.

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:30:10 »
I'm on my phone, but k
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Re: HELP
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 11:48:20 »
10:15 - 12:45 progress



Will continue tomorrow
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Re: HELP
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 12:45:11 »
MELTED A POST ABD BURNED THE PCB

RIP F9 KEY

not so bad. cherry switch bodies are like POM or something: pretty tough. They can take a beating. if you lifted or damaged a trace, you can just trace repair it. Working on QFRs isn't that bad: at least they are easy to desolder. COntrast to the bluetooth filco which took me like 12 hours to desolder.

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 14:41:53 »
MELTED A POST ABD BURNED THE PCB

RIP F9 KEY

not so bad. cherry switch bodies are like POM or something: pretty tough. They can take a beating. if you lifted or damaged a trace, you can just trace repair it. Working on QFRs isn't that bad: at least they are easy to desolder. COntrast to the bluetooth filco which took me like 12 hours to desolder.

It's not broken, i just wasn't paying proper attention and melted it a bit lol

got through 12 switches in 2 and half hours. Not looking good.
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Re: HELP
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 15:46:02 »
Hahahaahah don't worry brother, at worst you'll just have to connect something with wires

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Re: HELP
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:33:09 »
Soooo...did you burn yourself again?

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 18:41:19 »
Soooo...did you burn yourself again?

burn count today ended at 2
QFR | MJ2 TKL | "Bulgogiboard" (Keycon 104) | ctrl.alt x GON 60% | TGR Alice | Mira SE #29 | Mira SE #34 | Revo One | z | Keycult No. 1 | First CW87 prototype | Mech27v1 | Camp C225 | Duck Orion V1 | LZ CLS sxh | Geon Frog TKL | Hiney TKL One | Geon Glare TKL



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Re: HELP
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:08:52 »
Reading this thread made me think of this guy:

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Re: HELP
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:26:58 »
why is this thread here anyway? don't we have a soldering thread in one of the million subforums this place has?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0

why yes, yes we do.
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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:39:30 »
why is this thread here anyway? don't we have a soldering thread in one of the million subforums this place has?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0

why yes, yes we do.

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:40:34 »
why is this thread here anyway? don't we have a soldering thread in one of the million subforums this place has?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0

why yes, yes we do.

TS doesn't browse Making Stuff Together...   :rolleyes:

so how exactly is he suppose to help out new members? doesn't know his way around the board.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 29 October 2014, 20:46:00 »
why is this thread here anyway? don't we have a soldering thread in one of the million subforums this place has?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0

why yes, yes we do.

TS doesn't browse Making Stuff Together...   :rolleyes:

I don't hide it anymore at least :D
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Re: HELP
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 30 October 2014, 10:21:15 »
Continued work today. Knocked out another row in about an hour.

No burns to report
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:25:17 »
Good news: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

Bad news: menu doesn't work, and my win-lock LED is kill.

Other than that, I have a mostly functioning QFR with 62g blacks and THEY FEEL AMAZING.

Why didn't I do this sooner?
QFR | MJ2 TKL | "Bulgogiboard" (Keycon 104) | ctrl.alt x GON 60% | TGR Alice | Mira SE #29 | Mira SE #34 | Revo One | z | Keycult No. 1 | First CW87 prototype | Mech27v1 | Camp C225 | Duck Orion V1 | LZ CLS sxh | Geon Frog TKL | Hiney TKL One | Geon Glare TKL



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Re: HELP
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:48:01 »
Good news: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog

Bad news: menu doesn't work, and my win-lock LED is kill.

Other than that, I have a mostly functioning QFR with 62g blacks and THEY FEEL AMAZING.

Why didn't I do this sooner?

bad news: use a better pangram.

My fav is "sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow" but "pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs" is another good one.

good news: now you have learned.

If you need an LED I'll mail you one.

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Re: HELP
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 15:51:01 »
use a better pangram.

Okay, I'll bite.  How the heck is there a better pangram?  Isn't pangram-ism a binary sort of deal?  It either is or is not, correct?  Or are you just being a pangram elitist?  :P

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:18:01 »

If you need an LED I'll mail you one.

It's the pad not the LED

It IS a QFR after all
QFR | MJ2 TKL | "Bulgogiboard" (Keycon 104) | ctrl.alt x GON 60% | TGR Alice | Mira SE #29 | Mira SE #34 | Revo One | z | Keycult No. 1 | First CW87 prototype | Mech27v1 | Camp C225 | Duck Orion V1 | LZ CLS sxh | Geon Frog TKL | Hiney TKL One | Geon Glare TKL



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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 06 November 2014, 17:18:45 »
Okay, I'll bite.  How the heck is there a better pangram?  Isn't pangram-ism a binary sort of deal?  It either is or is not, correct?  Or are you just being a pangram elitist?  :P

Gas is just gas, or it isn't. But some gases are better for you to breath than others. Implying things that are something can't be better than something that is the same something.

You're not wrong, but you're making a different point.  I didn't say that I was confused how the pangram is better *sounding* or flows better.  I was wondering how it was inherently better at being a pangram.

To continue your analogy, it would be as if you said "some gases are better at being gases", which I would argue is not a reasonable claim.

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