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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 18:56:38 »
Considering over 75% of pro gamers are college/uni students, it's actually a really ****ing good idea for the students.

If it's done well, good. If it's done poorly, great, we can pass it off as a step and move on.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 18:57:54 »
I don't see why not...

Foot ball players are typically people who plays foot ball and at the bottom of the academic ladder.

So, now, we have esport kids who are just as dumb, but can't catch, so they play esport.  why not give them a scholarship

It's the same thing. .

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 18:58:55 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:00:22 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

exactly..

they're identical.. 


Except.. idk how great a deal it is for the dota kids since, I still highly doubt being part of the dota team will get them laid..

Maybe in another 20 years...   when people stop watching football cuz it's way more boring than Dota..

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:01:06 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!

What it shares in common with actual sports: competition
What else it shares with actual sports: Nothing

Is every competition a sport now? Am I a professional Csport competitor because I am trying to get a clack in the sale? Am I an EBsport competitor because I bid against others on Ebay? No, because that's ****ing stupid.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:01:47 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!

They never said sport..  E-sport-scholarship

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:02:19 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:04:13 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific

Your definition is far too loose..

Is fapping a sport by your definition?

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:04:27 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific

No man, it is not like a sport in any form of the word.

Maybe I can get a scholarship for competitive eating. Would you support that?
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:05:57 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific

Your definition is far too loose..

Is fapping a sport by your definition?
I mean, if you're competing against someone to finish quicker I guess it could be. It would be more of a true sport than esports since it requires some physical prowess
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:06:17 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific

No man, it is not like a sport in any form of the word.

It's a game played in a competitive forum for a prize.

sounds like a sport.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:06:55 »
Because esports scholarships are sooo different from literally any other sports athletic scholarship

Not a sport. NOT A SPORT!
they both require some special skill or skills to accomplish a task faster or more efficiently than an opponent. so yes, a sport. an e-sport, to be specific

No man, it is not like a sport in any form of the word.

Maybe I can get a scholarship for competitive eating. Would you support that?
so is chess not a sport either?
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:07:34 »
Sport noun
: a contest or game in which people do certain physical activities according to a specific set of rules and compete against each other

: a physical activity that is done for enjoyment



from the dictionary

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:08:09 »
is cap collecting a sport?
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:09:38 »
Ok guys.. let's clip this definition spiral for now..

I think the scholarship is a great idea...   Dota is something that encourages team work, and organizational skills..

So.. in that respect it's no less a learning potential for many kids..

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:09:41 »
Sport noun
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again I ask, if chess is considered a sport, what distinction can you make that would render esports not a real sport?
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:10:40 »
Sport noun
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: a physical activity that is done for enjoyment



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again I ask, if chess is considered a sport, what distinction can you make that would render esports not a real sport?

just stop this.. it's pointless to argue definitions.. since they're always flowing.. not set in stone.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:11:13 »
People kicking balls around is a sport, people playing chess is a sport, plenty of things are a sport. Hardly much different in concept except for the stigma of computer gaming. I'll be honest that I have no interest in competitive gaming but the two aren't as different as you make out.

Maybe in another 20 years...   when people stop watching football cuz it's way more boring than Dota..

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:11:20 »
is cap collecting a sport?

Exactly

Except in cap collecting, you don't physically or mentally train, or spend hours training to collect.

E-sports players spend hours practicing and training physically and mentally(studying the game) like other sports.  Two friends of mine play for EG and they spend 5+ hours every day practicing/training along with school and clubs

Not saying I totally agree, but there is more in common than simply "competition"

Also, training mechanics (mouse control, keyboard control) is physical.  It isn't as much of a muscle building activity as weights, but it is creating stronger neural connections and "muscle memory"
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:14:08 »
Sport noun
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again I ask, if chess is considered a sport, what distinction can you make that would render esports not a real sport?

just stop this.. it's pointless to argue definitions.. since they're always flowing.. not set in stone.
most discussions really on using the definitions of certain things as they are at that moment. The discussion here is whether by today's standards esports should or should not be considered a sport. 100 years from now, the answer may be different, but that has no bearing on the discussion today
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:15:23 »
is cap collecting a sport?

Exactly

Except in cap collecting, you don't physically or mentally train, or spend hours training to collect.


This is exactly what I have been doing during the Clack event. Am I a pro and didn't even know?

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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:18:24 »
is cap collecting a sport?

Exactly

Except in cap collecting, you don't physically or mentally train, or spend hours training to collect.


This is exactly what I have been doing during the Clack event. Am I a pro and didn't even know?
Well I think naasfu would be the undisputed world champion there
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« Reply #24 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:18:55 »
I'd add though that I'd never want to consider swearing douche bags you occasionally see playing CoD in tournaments at all worthwhile. It's disgraceful how some behave, and no better than any 11 y/o's. Manners and professionalism or gtfo.

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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:20:28 »
is cap collecting a sport?

Exactly

Except in cap collecting, you don't physically or mentally train, or spend hours training to collect.


This is exactly what I have been doing during the Clack event. Am I a pro and didn't even know?
Well I think naasfu would be the undisputed world champion there

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:21:54 »
Just going to add that I don't see this being any better/worse than athletic scholarships.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:23:09 »
I'd add though that I'd never want to consider swearing douche bags you occasionally see playing CoD in tournaments at all worthwhile. It's disgraceful how some behave, and no better than any 11 y/o's. Manners and professionalism or gtfo.

But they ARE 11y/olds  with deeper voices..

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:27:29 »
I'd add though that I'd never want to consider swearing douche bags you occasionally see playing CoD in tournaments at all worthwhile. It's disgraceful how some behave, and no better than any 11 y/o's. Manners and professionalism or gtfo.

But they ARE 11y/olds  with deeper voices..

We are really getting off-topic here, but why are parent's buying their 11yo COD in the first place. They wouldn't be able to walk into a store and get it themselves until they were 16 anyway.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:31:49 »
I'd add though that I'd never want to consider swearing douche bags you occasionally see playing CoD in tournaments at all worthwhile. It's disgraceful how some behave, and no better than any 11 y/o's. Manners and professionalism or gtfo.

But they ARE 11y/olds  with deeper voices..

We are really getting off-topic here, but why are parent's buying their 11yo COD in the first place. They wouldn't be able to walk into a store and get it themselves until they were 16 anyway.

they're getting their kids COD  because the marketing team is doing their job..  Target the dumbest demographic with the Least amount of self-control..

Parents are intelligent people whose only weakness are their children's irrational behavior...

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:32:21 »
I'd add though that I'd never want to consider swearing douche bags you occasionally see playing CoD in tournaments at all worthwhile. It's disgraceful how some behave, and no better than any 11 y/o's. Manners and professionalism or gtfo.

But they ARE 11y/olds  with deeper voices..

We are really getting off-topic here, but why are parent's buying their 11yo COD in the first place. They wouldn't be able to walk into a store and get it themselves until they were 16 anyway.

Because they're either A) iresponsible and don't understand content ratings and probably unfit to have a child in the first place or B) know that their child is mature an understands the difference between games and real life and can differentiate appropriate responses to both. Luckily, I come from a family that did the latter and as a result, I was allowed to play war games at a younger age.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:32:36 »
Its funny and an interesting argument

I personally have never played football or soccer or football (soccer) or basketball. I played tennis, did boxing  and wrestling (all single person sports as a kid).

I don't really have much of an interest in any team sports, but I will happily sit there a watch a game of football, or soccer or football (soccer) and enjoy it. On the other hand I love playing Battlefied etc. but fudge me I would rather lick my dogs taint then sit there and watch some little kid play BF4 for some world title.

Sport has the advantage of staying power. Its always there and has a long history with some clubs in existance for over 100 years and more or less the game will not become obsolete (a bold statement if there are any historians out there).

Computer games on the other hand (except for WOW for some freak reason) have a life span and eventually become outdated so it will be interesting to see if the games are adjusted as years pass etc. you wouldn't want to invest time in a game and have it withdrawn from the program lel.

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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:40:10 »
RIOT updates LoL often and they are doing/did a graphical overhaul but that hasn't stopped people from leaving LoL for other newer games. No competitive online game can last forever, just try finding a match on the Unreal servers these days. And it also regulates all competition to MOBA, Fighting, and FPS games which is already limiting not only the concept of video games as sports, but also negatively impacts the video game industry as a whole as outside forces make any wriggle room for new concepts ideas and IPs narrower every year. It's too early to tell, but I think Esports could ultimately hurt the industry more than helping it, similar to how croudfunding is currently doing it massive damage.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 19:41:00 »
Its funny and an interesting argument

I personally have never played football or soccer or football (soccer) or basketball. I played tennis, did boxing  and wrestling (all single person sports as a kid).

I don't really have much of an interest in any team sports, but I will happily sit there a watch a game of football, or soccer or football (soccer) and enjoy it. On the other hand I love playing Battlefied etc. but fudge me I would rather lick my dogs taint then sit there and watch some little kid play BF4 for some world title.

Sport has the advantage of staying power. Its always there and has a long history with some clubs in existance for over 100 years and more or less the game will not become obsolete (a bold statement if there are any historians out there).

Computer games on the other hand (except for WOW for some freak reason) have a life span and eventually become outdated so it will be interesting to see if the games are adjusted as years pass etc. you wouldn't want to invest time in a game and have it withdrawn from the program lel.

Football is boring dude..

I predict Esport will be the only sports type left in the future..


It's cheaper to promote,  it's cheaper to manage, equipment, space,  EVERYTHING is cheaper than football..

and you know what.. It has a player base in far excess of football..  Look at the dota numbers..

and ANYONE can play, at any age...  not true with football..  and the thing is .. football isn't fun for everyone that plays... it just isn't...  lots of sitting and standing around

Dota is fun for everyone.. and an engaging experience EVERYTIME

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:01:24 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:02:48 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.


If fat Americans ate less meat and **** made from corn, we could easily feed the world population twice over.

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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:04:21 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.


If fat Americans ate less meat and **** made from corn, we could easily feed the world population twice over.

Welll...... yes and no...  because at the current rate of growth.. we're ****ed..

So... by NOT feeding a portion of the population..  we're saving the future generations from starvation..

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:05:50 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.

Hrrmm...  Tp4 starts underground Dota Deathmatch club?


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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:29:50 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.


If fat Americans ate less meat and **** made from corn, we could easily feed the world population twice over.

Welll...... yes and no...  because at the current rate of growth.. we're ****ed..

So... by NOT feeding a portion of the population..  we're saving the future generations from starvation..

For just one penny a day, you can help starve the children of Africa.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:38:22 »
I'm really hoping for some sort of population reducing deathmatch once the planet starts to run out sustainable of food.


If fat Americans ate less meat and **** made from corn, we could easily feed the world population twice over.

Welll...... yes and no...  because at the current rate of growth.. we're ****ed..

So... by NOT feeding a portion of the population..  we're saving the future generations from starvation..

For just one penny a day, you can help starve the children of Africa.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 20:49:22 »
Its funny and an interesting argument

I personally have never played football or soccer or football (soccer) or basketball. I played tennis, did boxing  and wrestling (all single person sports as a kid).

I don't really have much of an interest in any team sports, but I will happily sit there a watch a game of football, or soccer or football (soccer) and enjoy it. On the other hand I love playing Battlefied etc. but fudge me I would rather lick my dogs taint then sit there and watch some little kid play BF4 for some world title.

Sport has the advantage of staying power. Its always there and has a long history with some clubs in existance for over 100 years and more or less the game will not become obsolete (a bold statement if there are any historians out there).

Computer games on the other hand (except for WOW for some freak reason) have a life span and eventually become outdated so it will be interesting to see if the games are adjusted as years pass etc. you wouldn't want to invest time in a game and have it withdrawn from the program lel.

Football is boring dude..

I predict Esport will be the only sports type left in the future..


It's cheaper to promote,  it's cheaper to manage, equipment, space,  EVERYTHING is cheaper than football..

and you know what.. It has a player base in far excess of football..  Look at the dota numbers..

and ANYONE can play, at any age...  not true with football..  and the thing is .. football isn't fun for everyone that plays... it just isn't...  lots of sitting and standing around

Dota is fun for everyone.. and an engaging experience EVERYTIME

TP I love you but there are a lot more sports than just football, also there are a lot of states (countries) where sport is cheaper a computer. I wouldn't discount your point at face value as land will become in short supply in areas and this could have (probably already is) an impact on what people do for recreation in the  future.

Don't get me wrong, I think its a good idea to open up free education to people other than athletes. But then again I also think that free education should go to higher than average students who could in normal circumstances not afford it regardless of their physical/neckbeard talents.

I don't know about your Dota comments but I cannot say your wrong as I have never played.... and really the only thing I know about Dota is from the following documentary...



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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:19:20 »
Sports scholarships are a stupid idea, period, and should be abolished.

Being a full-time student and being a professional or semi-professional athlete are both full-time jobs. Pretending that people can be both in a serious way is a farce, and does a disservice not only to the unpaid workers (athletes) most of whom end up receiving mediocre educations, but also does a disservice to the rest of the school, devaluing other students work. That football and basketball coaches are the highest paid public employees in most US states is an absolute travesty.

The main reason schools have sports scholarships is to milk money out of alumni for whom having their old college's team win sports titles is a meaningful part of their identity, and gain tax advantages &c. for sports teams compared to being independent. Just like most things, if you follow the money you find out that a small handful of people are making a killing out of a system that screws everyone else in ways large and small. We’d be better off as a society if those alumni spent their money on something more useful (even on just donating money to independent pro sports teams if that’s what they really want to do), and professional/semi-professional sports teams properly paid their athletes for their labor, in a context entirely detached from colleges.

(Note: I have no problem with college athletics otherwise. If full time students want to also play sports competitively, that’s wonderful. It’s building college athletics into a money/hype maching – recruiting full-time athletes to play on the teams without pay while pretending to be students, with the school managing the experience so they can get a diploma without doing the same work as other students, using the good social image of education to give the system a respectable veneer – that makes a mockery of both athletics and education.)
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:35:56 »
Its funny and an interesting argument

I personally have never played football or soccer or football (soccer) or basketball. I played tennis, did boxing  and wrestling (all single person sports as a kid).

I don't really have much of an interest in any team sports, but I will happily sit there a watch a game of football, or soccer or football (soccer) and enjoy it. On the other hand I love playing Battlefied etc. but fudge me I would rather lick my dogs taint then sit there and watch some little kid play BF4 for some world title.

Sport has the advantage of staying power. Its always there and has a long history with some clubs in existance for over 100 years and more or less the game will not become obsolete (a bold statement if there are any historians out there).

Computer games on the other hand (except for WOW for some freak reason) have a life span and eventually become outdated so it will be interesting to see if the games are adjusted as years pass etc. you wouldn't want to invest time in a game and have it withdrawn from the program lel.

Football is boring dude..

I predict Esport will be the only sports type left in the future..


It's cheaper to promote,  it's cheaper to manage, equipment, space,  EVERYTHING is cheaper than football..

and you know what.. It has a player base in far excess of football..  Look at the dota numbers..

and ANYONE can play, at any age...  not true with football..  and the thing is .. football isn't fun for everyone that plays... it just isn't...  lots of sitting and standing around

Dota is fun for everyone.. and an engaging experience EVERYTIME

TP I love you but there are a lot more sports than just football, also there are a lot of states (countries) where sport is cheaper a computer. I wouldn't discount your point at face value as land will become in short supply in areas and this could have (probably already is) an impact on what people do for recreation in the  future.

Don't get me wrong, I think its a good idea to open up free education to people other than athletes. But then again I also think that free education should go to higher than average students who could in normal circumstances not afford it regardless of their physical/neckbeard talents.

I don't know about your Dota comments but I cannot say your wrong as I have never played.... and really the only thing I know about Dota is from the following documentary...




Playing dota is probably the 5th most time consuming activity for humanity.. behind sleeping, working, eating, and sex...     Where's football..


http://steamcharts.com/

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:42:48 »
Its funny and an interesting argument

I personally have never played football or soccer or football (soccer) or basketball. I played tennis, did boxing  and wrestling (all single person sports as a kid).

I don't really have much of an interest in any team sports, but I will happily sit there a watch a game of football, or soccer or football (soccer) and enjoy it. On the other hand I love playing Battlefied etc. but fudge me I would rather lick my dogs taint then sit there and watch some little kid play BF4 for some world title.

Sport has the advantage of staying power. Its always there and has a long history with some clubs in existance for over 100 years and more or less the game will not become obsolete (a bold statement if there are any historians out there).

Computer games on the other hand (except for WOW for some freak reason) have a life span and eventually become outdated so it will be interesting to see if the games are adjusted as years pass etc. you wouldn't want to invest time in a game and have it withdrawn from the program lel.

Football is boring dude..

I predict Esport will be the only sports type left in the future..


It's cheaper to promote,  it's cheaper to manage, equipment, space,  EVERYTHING is cheaper than football..

and you know what.. It has a player base in far excess of football..  Look at the dota numbers..

and ANYONE can play, at any age...  not true with football..  and the thing is .. football isn't fun for everyone that plays... it just isn't...  lots of sitting and standing around

Dota is fun for everyone.. and an engaging experience EVERYTIME

TP I love you but there are a lot more sports than just football, also there are a lot of states (countries) where sport is cheaper a computer. I wouldn't discount your point at face value as land will become in short supply in areas and this could have (probably already is) an impact on what people do for recreation in the  future.

Don't get me wrong, I think its a good idea to open up free education to people other than athletes. But then again I also think that free education should go to higher than average students who could in normal circumstances not afford it regardless of their physical/neckbeard talents.

I don't know about your Dota comments but I cannot say your wrong as I have never played.... and really the only thing I know about Dota is from the following documentary...




Playing dota is probably the 5th most time consuming activity for humanity.. behind sleeping, working, eating, and sex...     Where's football..


http://steamcharts.com/

Sex is like... near the bottom of my list.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:47:12 »
please dont call it a sport. its a slap to the face to actual athletes. besides golfers. **** them.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:51:06 »
please dont call it a sport. its a slap to the face to actual athletes. besides golfers. **** them.

y r u killing esports demik wtf.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:51:55 »
As much as I like eSports, there is no way to guarantee you will be successful or even get a job, and there can only be a limited amount of coaches per team, unlike with an actual degree, you have many jobs available.

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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:54:27 »
please dont call it a sport. its a slap to the face to actual athletes. besides golfers. **** them.

y r u killing esports demik wtf.

y not
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:54:57 »
As much as I like literally any sport, there is no way to guarantee you will be successful or even get a job, and there can only be a limited amount of coaches per team, unlike with an actual degree, you have many jobs available.
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Re: Esports scholarships: A stupid idea, or the stupidest idea?
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 06 January 2015, 21:58:49 »
As much as I like any sport, there is no way to guarantee you will be successful or even get a job, and there can only be a limited amount of coaches per team, unlike with an actual degree, you have many jobs available.
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