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I made /r/truemk...
« on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 15:51:58 »
Hi, I am tired of seeing all the constant circle jerk hate of GeekHack and ClickClack, and other things we do on these forums on the /r/mk sub-reddit, and I feel like it doesn't represent us in a good way, so I decided to create /r/truemk , that way people on Reddit can be introduced to mechanical keyboards, without the bias of which forums are better. I currently have it privated while I work on it, but if anyone would like to help with setting it up, or helping with any of the design, tell me your reddit username, and I can add you so you can go in. Clearly I don't expect much support on here since it is on Reddit and we are on GH, but if anyone would like to help so GH and DT don't get a tainted look, just give me a shout. Also, if anyone has any interest to help with the wiki, feel free to once I add you.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 15:59:04 »
I think this is a cool idea but I don't really see it going anywhere. The average r/mk user just wants to see Corsairs and CM boards with a custom set from wasd, people don't move to GH until they want more from this hobby. Hell, when I started on r/mk I thought artisan caps and kustoms were ridiculous and I really liked ripster. I don't think there will be a strong following for this subreddit, that being said I'll maybe subscribe. Good luck.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:00:49 »
I think your trying too hard.
Setting up 'truemk' is only going to spur on the hate becasue your making it seem like we perceive our selves to be fundamentally better than them, which we aren't.
It would be better if you just participated in r/mk and tried to help the people there and contribute more and just worked slowly on making GH seem just like any other forum and see ripster as the heart broken teenager he is.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:04:24 »
I feel doing things like this is what is perpetuating the whole "GeekHack vs /r/MK" mentality. If you truly want to stop that attitude than you should just ignore it.
                           
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:06:31 »
/r/truertruemk is the legit one
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:07:36 »
I think your trying too hard.
Setting up 'truemk' is only going to spur on the hate becasue your making it seem like we perceive our selves to be fundamentally better than them, which we aren't.
It would be better if you just participated in r/mk and tried to help the people there and contribute more and just worked slowly on making GH seem just like any other forum and see ripster as the heart broken teenager he is.
It does make sense with what you are seeing, and I agree, its just that I also started out on reddit, and hated GH, even though I had never been on it, because Ripster makes it seem very strict, and not fun.

I think this is a cool idea but I don't really see it going anywhere. The average r/mk user just wants to see Corsairs and CM boards with a custom set from wasd, people don't move to GH until they want more from this hobby. Hell, when I started on r/mk I thought artisan caps and kustoms were ridiculous and I really liked ripster. I don't think there will be a strong following for this subreddit, that being said I'll subscribe. Good luck.
Thanks, and I started out the same way, except I did want to see more, which is what brought me to GH. I loved the way GONs looked, and korean boards, but there is a total of about 2 posts of korean boards on there, so I joined GH to just lurk at the GON and Korean board threads, and thats when I realized that it isn't what Ripster made it out to be.

I feel doing things like this is what is perpetuating the whole "GeekHack vs /r/MK" mentality. If you truly want to stop that attitude than you should just ignore it.
Well, the reason that I wanted to make truemk was so there was a neutral and highly accessible mechanical keyboards forum.


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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:08:50 »
I feel doing things like this is what is perpetuating the whole "GeekHack vs /r/MK" mentality. If you truly want to stop that attitude than you should just ignore it.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:09:23 »
I joined first on r/mk and still visit it, as there are sometimes cool articles and ripster's wiki is actually pretty good. I dislike how there is a split between the communities and the fact that people feel like they have to take Ripster's side on everything since he is the moderator.

What I don't understand is that people are okay and willing to spend $200+ on granite keysets but think spending  that much on collectible keycaps is ludacris.

In my opinion, this very hobby is crazy and a waste of money. A $20 rubber dome gets the same job done as a $900 korean custom keyboard laced with gold.

Doesn't mean I dont love it though. **** is addicting. Still I don't think this attract people away from r/mk. thats what geekhack is for.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:10:34 »
hate us cuz they ain't us
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:10:57 »
A $20 rubber dome gets the same job done as a $900 korean custom keyboard laced with gold.

Show me this $900 korean gold laced board

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:12:06 »
I'll be honest and say you most likely aren't going to go anywhere with this. I've been browsing /r/mechanicalkeyboards since before I ever had mine and it's obvious after any scrutiny that there's an animosity between ripster and you guys, albeit he seems to keep going on about it. Just leave it be.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:13:50 »
A $20 rubber dome gets the same job done as a $900 korean custom keyboard laced with gold.

Show me this $900 korean gold laced board

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« Reply #12 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:14:24 »
A $20 rubber dome gets the same job done as a $900 korean custom keyboard laced with gold.

Show me this $900 korean gold laced board

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:14:28 »
A $20 rubber dome gets the same job done as a $900 korean custom keyboard laced with gold.

Show me this $900 korean gold laced board

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:16:10 »
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:18:10 »
I don't think it's a good idea .
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« Reply #17 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:18:51 »
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:21:58 »
I'll be honest and say you most likely aren't going to go anywhere with this. I've been browsing /r/mechanicalkeyboards since before I ever had mine and it's obvious after any scrutiny that there's an animosity between ripster and you guys, albeit he seems to keep going on about it. Just leave it be.
For me it's not about settling the arguments between the forums, but to introduce people into a neutral keyboard environment that is easily accessible.

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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:22:33 »

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:22:57 »

Well, the reason that I wanted to make truemk was so there was a neutral and highly accessible mechanical keyboards forum.


This forum is not neutral and highly accessible?

In as much as any collection of passionate and opinionated nerds will ever be neutral, of course.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:23:55 »
I'll be honest and say you most likely aren't going to go anywhere with this. I've been browsing /r/mechanicalkeyboards since before I ever had mine and it's obvious after any scrutiny that there's an animosity between ripster and you guys, albeit he seems to keep going on about it. Just leave it be.
For me it's not about settling the arguments between the forums, but to introduce people into a neutral keyboard environment that is easily accessible.

It will likely never be easily accessible because there is little chance that people will just stumble onto the subreddit

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:25:54 »


Well, the reason that I wanted to make truemk was so there was a neutral and highly accessible mechanical keyboards forum.


This forum is not neutral and highly accessible?

In as much as any collection of passionate and opinionated nerds will ever be neutral, of course.
Well, reddit has multi million users with many other forums that people browse, while we have a good bit less. The 2nd result when you google mechanical keyboard is r/mk . Sure, we might be more neutral than reddit, but there is still some heavy bias.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:26:01 »
I'll be honest and say you most likely aren't going to go anywhere with this. I've been browsing /r/mechanicalkeyboards since before I ever had mine and it's obvious after any scrutiny that there's an animosity between ripster and you guys, albeit he seems to keep going on about it. Just leave it be.
For me it's not about settling the arguments between the forums, but to introduce people into a neutral keyboard environment that is easily accessible.


It will likely never be easily accessible because there is little chance that people will just stumble onto the subreddit
this , it will never reach the popularity of /r/mk and besides ripster attacks towards GH /r/mk is mostly neutral .

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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:26:04 »
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:26:06 »
I'm jelous of the guys at r/mk that can be satisfied with QFRs, do you know how much money Inwould have saved!
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:27:26 »

I'll be honest and say you most likely aren't going to go anywhere with this. I've been browsing /r/mechanicalkeyboards since before I ever had mine and it's obvious after any scrutiny that there's an animosity between ripster and you guys, albeit he seems to keep going on about it. Just leave it be.
For me it's not about settling the arguments between the forums, but to introduce people into a neutral keyboard environment that is easily accessible.

It will likely never be easily accessible because there is little chance that people will just stumble onto the subreddit
Well, if you google mechanical keyboard reddit is the 2nd result.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:27:29 »
Plus, as has been previously stated, the fact that a "neutral" subreddit has to exist, only furthers the fact that it isn't actually neutral. Not to mention that, by posting about it here on GH, it is already not neutral.
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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:28:43 »
Every day is a bad day in Wales
I'll just go back into my Welsh hobbit shack. I come out for 10 minutes and I get nothing but flak.

Now I really am having a bad day, thanks Bill. You're a great guy.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:30:59 »
Every day is a bad day in Wales
I'll just go back into my Welsh hobbit shack. I come out for 10 minutes and I get nothing but flak.

Now I really am having a bad day, thanks Bill. You're a great guy.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:31:01 »

Every day is a bad day in Wales
I'll just go back into my Welsh hobbit shack. I come out for 10 minutes and I get nothing but flak.

Now I really am having a bad day, thanks Bill. You're a great guy.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:35:46 »

Every day is a bad day in Wales
I'll just go back into my Welsh hobbit shack. I come out for 10 minutes and I get nothing but flak.

Now I really am having a bad day, thanks Bill. You're a great guy.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 18:50:56 »
there's always this

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 18:55:56 »
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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:04:15 »
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:19:36 »
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:26:48 »
I personally think this is a bad idea; we should just separate from /r/mk as much as possible, and that means reddit.
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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:30:48 »
I personally think this is a bad idea; we should just separate from /r/mk as much as possible, and that means reddit.
Which is the point of /r/truemk , to try and seperate ourselves from /r/mk. I want to use /r/truemk as an entrance and neutral zone for everyone to interact, and to introduce. We don't want people being biased to any forums.

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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:31:35 »
I personally think this is a bad idea; we should just separate from /r/mk as much as possible, and that means reddit.
Which is the point of /r/truemk , to try and seperate ourselves from /r/mk. I want to use /r/truemk as an entrance and neutral zone for everyone to interact, and to introduce. We don't want people being biased to any forums.

hmm, I don't know. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, and maybe it will just be forgotten.
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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:32:18 »

I personally think this is a bad idea; we should just separate from /r/mk as much as possible, and that means reddit.
Which is the point of /r/truemk , to try and seperate ourselves from /r/mk. I want to use /r/truemk as an entrance and neutral zone for everyone to interact, and to introduce. We don't want people being biased to any forums.

hmm, I don't know. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't, and maybe it will just be forgotten.
It has a higher chance of being forgotten than actually working, but I think it is worth my effort.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:37:54 »
Reddit was a sort of interesting place circa 2006, when it was made up of mostly nerds in the bay area and boston, and was filled with high-level technical conversations, so you could at least learn something while you were wasting time looking at it. Since their goal was to increase their audience without much concern for the direction of the community, within a couple of years it became totally unfocused, catering increasingly to shallow clickbait. Culturally, Reddit is pretty much like network television, strip-malls, and suburban sprawl: an endless sea of mediocrity.

The mechanical keyboards subreddit, more specifically, is a little fiefdom run by a narcissist, but who cares? Most of it is newbies posting pictures and looking for validation; I think it’s fine that it exists in its current form, it’s not doing any harm.

I don’t think reddit, based on the way it functions, is a useful host for a more permanent or serious community. As a rule, most people on reddit aren’t having long-term conversations or building relationships. Everything there is quick and transient, which is why pictures and bad jokes predominate.
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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:44:04 »
Once you break the entry barrier at Geekhack, why would you even go back to reddit at all. What does it have to offer? Geekhack is a community of enthusiasts. r/mk is a bunch of disparate users, posting photos of their keyboards with shoes and upvoting/downvoting others' photos, links, and comments.

And by barrier to entry, I mean that you have to introduce yourself and be willing to participate in the discussion that happens here. There are plenty of helpful people here, who are willing to show you around and answer your questions, you just have to ask.

Geekhack is different things to different people. We don't consider ourselves better than redditors, just different. We may aspire to hold ourselves to a higher standard than some other places on the internet, but I can't for the life of me see how that is a bad thing.




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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:47:24 »
reddit hate circlejerk, grab the penis to your left and have fun!
No he's not around.

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:47:58 »
reddit hate circlejerk, grab the penis to your left and have fun!
What if I want to go right :-(

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:48:46 »
reddit hate circlejerk, grab the penis to your left and have fun!

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Re: I made /r/truemk...
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:48:56 »
reddit hate circlejerk, grab the penis to your left and have fun!
What if I want to go right :-(

you Sick man...