Author Topic: Best Build Quality (Read 3964 times)

Novus · « **on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 14:52:58 »

Which keyboard has the best build quality?

paicrai · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 14:54:47 »

hhkulb type s hite

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 14:56:52 »

obviously laptop keyboards

Oobly · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:20:02 »

Hmmm..

Perhaps KÛL ES-87 if you mean "normal" commercial boards. Customs are in a class of their own, though, depending who assembles them.

Defect · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:21:05 »

Honestly my Data911 has a very impressive feel to me, especially considering it was $20 shipped NIB. It was made to be used in cop cars. Nice metal bottom, thick PCB, decent plate. Case is plastic but sturdy.

POS boards can be amazing as well.

Boards that are designed for multiple owners and heavy use have my vote

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:22:59 »

I think this speaks for itself:

Novus · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:36:14 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:22:59

I think this speaks for itself:

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Yea but that's not true anymore :P

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:37:26 »

Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:36:14

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:22:59
I think this speaks for itself:

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Yea but that's not true anymore :P

IBM as in IBM manufactured, not Unicomp...

Lexmark is a grey area... but generally meets the standards set by IBM.

katushkin · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:39:37 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:37:26

Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:36:14
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 15:22:59
I think this speaks for itself:

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Yea but that's not true anymore :P

IBM as in IBM manufactured, not Unicomp...

Lexmark is a grey area... but generally meets the standards set by IBM.

But not when it comes to printers.

chyros · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:05:00 »

Possibly the Model F maybe? Definitely not the Model M, in any case. Even older keyboards may yet be even more indestructible though... Oo

Melvang · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:22:52 »

4704 F>F XT>F AT>IBM M>Lexmark M>everything else

Customs with metal cases can fall about anywhere on this scale.

Lain1911 · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:24:28 »

IBM meat slicers

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:29:24 »

Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:22:52

4704 F>F XT>F AT>IBM M>Lexmark M>everything else

Customs with metal cases can fall about anywhere on this scale.

122-F's? Feel like they should be on that list...

Melvang · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:33:14 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:29:24

Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:22:52
4704 F>F XT>F AT>IBM M>Lexmark M>everything else

Customs with metal cases can fall about anywhere on this scale.

122-F's? Feel like they should be on that list...

Probably at the same level as the XT or between the XT and the 4704 due to the steel bottom.

davkol · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:37:36 »

Was it 4704 that broke some recycler's grinder?

metalliqaz · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:39:33 »

I'm sticking with my guns. Leopold is good stuff. My first mech, before I even joined GH, was the FC200R. I still love that keyboard. It was really the details that made it. The padding under the stablized keys, the extra rubber feet, the well-made firmware, all of it added up to a great product.

And then there's the FC750R, which proves they actually work to improve their products. So many new features, not to mention better looks and those wonderful PBT keycaps. I need one.

And THEN their name is on Realforce boards. Aside from the strange legends, Realforce boards are immediately recognizable as high quality kit. The sound, the feel, the looks. You can't use a Realforce without being impressed.

AND as if that wasn't enough, there is the Typenow Solid. The TNS feels like a korean custom. Guess what. It's basically a Leopold in an aluminum case. I love mine, it rocks.

Leopold, bros. Leopold.

noisyturtle · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:44:30 »

Model F

tp4tissue · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26 »

Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...

No it doesn't...

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:24:39 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26

Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...
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No it doesn't...

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I respect your honesty.

Jokrik · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:30:04 »

Al around I might say Leopold, actually filco is nice but the keycap sucks
But aluminum made are always nice

1391406 · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:38:54 »

The top half of the shell casing on the Model F seems more fragile / brittle than the Model M. Most Model M cases aren't cracked whereas it's common to find 122 key Model F's with cracks. In my opinion, the Model M is still one of the sturdiest keyboards around with a build quality that's practically second to none.

hwood34 · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:08:28 »

I mean, we probably should narrow it down into categories. Because I can tell you that the General Dynamics board I have is certainly one of the most solid things I own, but it was also designed for military use so it's literally designed with the sole intention of just working enough and being as sturdy as possible

demik · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:13:14 »

type now solid.

it's solid.

Vibex · « **Reply #23 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:18:28 »

My AT101w has taken a serious pounding and doesn't even have a scratch on it.

tp4tissue · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:31:09 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:24:39

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26
Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...
Show Image

No it doesn't...

Show Image

I respect your honesty.

Just the TRRS port.. JUST Those ports.. EVERYTHING ELSE is GREAT....

swill · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:37:09 »

Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:39:33

I'm sticking with my guns. Leopold is good stuff. My first mech, before I even joined GH, was the FC200R. I still love that keyboard. It was really the details that made it. The padding under the stablized keys, the extra rubber feet, the well-made firmware, all of it added up to a great product.

And then there's the FC750R, which proves they actually work to improve their products. So many new features, not to mention better looks and those wonderful PBT keycaps. I need one.

And THEN their name is on Realforce boards. Aside from the strange legends, Realforce boards are immediately recognizable as high quality kit. The sound, the feel, the looks. You can't use a Realforce without being impressed.

AND as if that wasn't enough, there is the Typenow Solid. The TNS feels like a korean custom. Guess what. It's basically a Leopold in an aluminum case. I love mine, it rocks.

Leopold, bros. Leopold.

I would second this. The Leopold build quality is pretty awesome. No complaints from me.

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:38:29 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:31:09

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:24:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26
Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...

No it doesn't...

I respect your honesty.

Just the TRRS port.. JUST Those ports.. EVERYTHING ELSE is GREAT....

everything has an Achilles heel...

everything, EXCEPT IBMs

demik · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:39:37 »

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:38:29

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:31:09
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:24:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26
Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...

No it doesn't...

I respect your honesty.

Just the TRRS port.. JUST Those ports.. EVERYTHING ELSE is GREAT....

everything has an Achilles heel...

everything, EXCEPT IBMs

size

Computer-Lab in Basement · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:41:22 »

Quote from: demik on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:39:37

Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:38:29
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:31:09
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:24:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 17:22:26
Ergodox haz d'BESTEST build quality...

No it doesn't...

I respect your honesty.

Just the TRRS port.. JUST Those ports.. EVERYTHING ELSE is GREAT....

everything has an Achilles heel...

everything, EXCEPT IBMs

size

this thread is about quality

size is irrelevant

DrHubblePhD · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:42:45 »

Realforce boards are also built very nicely, not sure if anyone has brought that up. My 104ub is a tank in more ways than one and I love the feeling of the case

tp4tissue · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:47:29 »

People associate weight with quality, the ever present m0re is better perception..

So, we end up with many devices that are unnecessarily heavy..

Keyboard for one thing..

In fact, I believe weight, beyond a certain point is detrimental to the keyboard, because it's NOT a static item on the desk..

You can make it a static item.. But I certainly don't think it should be...

sometimes it's easier to just move the keyboard when you're in a different position relative to the desk/computer.

When I was using my quickfire TKL in that vortex case, it was over 7lbs..

You really can't move it easily.. and it was cumbersome..

I think keyboards should weigh just enough not to move while typing..

But it should be light enough such that if you DO need to move it, it will budge easily.

Snowdog993 · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:54:55 »

Hmm. I found a pretty rugged rubberdome keyboard.
http://www.ikey.com/product/dbl-81/

Novus · « **Reply #32 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:55:48 »

I dunno how people can get used to those small right shifts.
Oh interestingly enough the shift is actually on the right of the up arrow as opposed to the left.
That's pretty cool

Data · « **Reply #33 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:57:45 »

No one will believe me, but I've been super impressed with the build quality on my Varmilo VA87M. It's probably because of the association with Leopold.

Snowdog993 · « **Reply #34 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 19:02:44 »

Quote from: the1onewolf on Wed, 04 February 2015, 14:52:58

Which keyboard has the best build quality?

What is that question? Are you talking durability? Are you talking components? Are you talking overall? This question is vague and you will get every answer known to man. You can say anything on this thread and it's actually going to be subjective to opinion due to differences.

1391406 · « **Reply #35 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 19:04:49 »

Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:47:29

People associate weight with quality, the ever present m0re is better perception..

So, we end up with many devices that are unnecessarily heavy..

Keyboard for one thing..

In fact, I believe weight, beyond a certain point is detrimental to the keyboard, because it's NOT a static item on the desk..

You can make it a static item.. But I certainly don't think it should be...

sometimes it's easier to just move the keyboard when you're in a different position relative to the desk/computer.

When I was using my quickfire TKL in that vortex case, it was over 7lbs..

You really can't move it easily.. and it was cumbersome..

I think keyboards should weigh just enough not to move while typing..

But it should be light enough such that if you DO need to move it, it will budge easily.

While not true in every case, weight often is an indicator of quality. High-quality, durable materials often weigh more, cost more, and are more expensive to fabricate. Note the use of cheap plastics and lightweight metals in a lot of cheap products.

paicrai · « **Reply #36 on:** Wed, 04 February 2015, 23:42:16 »

actually my gayzer slackwidow has 300trillion typos per switch so all yall can **** off

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Author Topic: Best Build Quality (Read 3964 times)