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Offline illitirit

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How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:31:31 »
So I recently lubed my HHKB, and I hate the after effect.

While it isnt horrible it just doesnt have that magic it had when it was untouched.  So now that I have ruined it, is there a way to clean off the lube from the switch sliders?


Would it be as simple as just wiping the lube off from the sliders?  Im afraid to use isopropyl alcohol on any of the ABS plastic as it might melt it or something.

Or maybe dissasemble the whole thing and soak it in soap water?


I have no idea, ive never done this before.  Suggestions please!
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:41:56 »
Warm soapy water. You'll wanna clean the top case, as well as the sliders.
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Offline illitirit

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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:01:00 »
Quote from: exitfire401 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:41:56
Warm soapy water. You'll wanna clean the top case, as well as the sliders.


Cool, im going to have to give it a shot.  Do you know how to remove topre stabilizers?  Seems kind of complicated to me.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:02:21 »
Quote from: illitirit on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:01:00
Quote from: exitfire401 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:41:56
Warm soapy water. You'll wanna clean the top case, as well as the sliders.


Cool, im going to have to give it a shot.  Do you know how to remove topre stabilizers?  Seems kind of complicated to me.
Once the keyboard is open, use something thin, or your fingernails to pop the wire up and your all good to just pop it out like the rest the sliders.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:20:23 »
Quote from: Air tree on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:02:21
Quote from: illitirit on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:01:00
Quote from: exitfire401 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:41:56
Warm soapy water. You'll wanna clean the top case, as well as the sliders.


Cool, im going to have to give it a shot.  Do you know how to remove topre stabilizers?  Seems kind of complicated to me.
Once the keyboard is open, use something thin, or your fingernails to pop the wire up and your all good to just pop it out like the rest the sliders.

Cool, thanks!
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 11:43:50 »
What was the effect of lubing? I considered doing that on mine...
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:47:56 »
Out of curiosity, what lube did you use? One of the pre-mixed Krytox blends?
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:45:45 »
What did you lube with ?


Also.. Pre-break in keyboards will feel different Lubed   vs  POST-break in keyboards..


Pre-break in may feel unsmooth and gritty and sticky.


That said ,  you should probably take your HHKB and throw it away,  because


ERGODOX
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:57:39 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:45:45
What did you lube with ?


Also.. Pre-break in keyboards will feel different Lubed   vs  POST-break in keyboards..


Pre-break in may feel unsmooth and gritty and sticky.


That said ,  you should probably take your HHKB and throw it away,  because


ERGODOX
Does topre really have the same "Break in" thing as cherry mx does? I haven't really heard of people touting their vintage topre feels that much.

It doesn't really have nearly the same design to have the same phenomena.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 18:21:29 »
Quote from: Air tree on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:57:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:45:45
What did you lube with ?


Also.. Pre-break in keyboards will feel different Lubed   vs  POST-break in keyboards..


Pre-break in may feel unsmooth and gritty and sticky.


That said ,  you should probably take your HHKB and throw it away,  because


ERGODOX
Does topre really have the same "Break in" thing as cherry mx does? I haven't really heard of people touting their vintage topre feels that much.

It doesn't really have nearly the same design to have the same phenomena.

all plastic haz break in..

They're smooth to the eye,  but put it under the microscope, you'd see it's all canyons for a while.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 05:33:49 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:45:45
What did you lube with ?


Also.. Pre-break in keyboards will feel different Lubed   vs  POST-break in keyboards..


Pre-break in may feel unsmooth and gritty and sticky.


That said ,  you should probably take your HHKB and throw it away,  because


ERGODOX
Isn't the Matias Ergo Pro superior to the ergodox?
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 05:47:37 »
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Offline illitirit

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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:22:33 »
I lubed with EK-mechlube 2.  I've been told that I should not use it to lube the HHKB here on geekhack, however on reddit I heard otherwise.  Alot of people used it to lube their HHKB's on reddit and came away happy, so I decided to just do it because it was killing me inside.... I had to know what my 55g HHKB felt like lubed.



While in my opinion it didnt make the keyboard worse, it just made it different.

Pre-lube the HHKB to me personally had great aural and tactile feedback.  So much thock.

After lubing, it kind those two things kind of got lessened.  Its still there, it just went from a 9/10 to like a 7/10.

 

On the flip side, lubing it absolutely made the keypresses smoother.  Although, in hindsight the keypresses pre-lube were already smooth.


So yeah basically, it took away the thock and tactility that I crave for.



Edit :  Oh and I only lubed the switch sliders, nothing else.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:41:20 »
Quote from: Air tree on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:57:39
Quote from: tp4tissue on Sat, 16 May 2015, 17:45:45
What did you lube with ?


Also.. Pre-break in keyboards will feel different Lubed   vs  POST-break in keyboards..


Pre-break in may feel unsmooth and gritty and sticky.


That said ,  you should probably take your HHKB and throw it away,  because


ERGODOX
Does topre really have the same "Break in" thing as cherry mx does? I haven't really heard of people touting their vintage topre feels that much.

It doesn't really have nearly the same design to have the same phenomena.

I don't think they do to the same extent, but for example - I know that some Type-S have a squeaky noise that disappears after it's been broken in (mostly).
« Last Edit: Fri, 22 May 2015, 18:33:58 by Frenir »
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Offline demik

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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:43:13 »
Hhkb is perfect as is. No need to lube anything. It's not like ****ty mx where you need to find ways to make up for their ****tyness.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 09:58:16 »
If you want to remove anything from plastic, use isopropyl alcohol. Very safe way to handle plastic and electronics.

Soapy water works too but only if you disassemble the entire keyboard to separate the electronics and completely dry the parts when reassemble.
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 May 2015, 09:59:54 by Zukoi »
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 12:16:19 »
Quote from: demik on Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:43:13
Hhkb is perfect as is. No need to lube anything. It's not like ****ty mx where you need to find ways to make up for their ****tyness.

Topre Weaknesses:

Non-uniform key resistence. (very difficult to make every rubber cup the same)

Stiffening of domes as rubber loses oils. (further resistance divergence)

Replacement parts not readily available.



Cherry Mx:

There are no weaknesses...
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 12:56:36 »
Cherry mx weakness is cherry mx
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:01:00 »
Quote from: demik on Sun, 17 May 2015, 08:43:13
Hhkb is perfect as is. No need to lube anything. It's not like ****ty mx where you need to find ways to make up for their ****tyness.

Wait... I don't need stickers for my HHKB and RF? Do I need sip sockets? Do I need a custom plate? Do I need a foam mat inside my board?

To OP... I don't know who told you to lube a HHKB, but I'd stay away from them in general.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:03:49 »
Neg. what you do is buy that ****. Plug that **** and type that ****.
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:15:32 »
Quote from: demik on Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:03:49
Neg. what you do is buy that ****. Plug that **** and type that ****.


Lmao demik's posts make my day
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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:18:51 »
Quote from: demik on Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:03:49
Neg. what you do is buy that ****. Plug that **** and type that ****.

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Re: How to un-Lube a HHKB pro2?
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:35:43 »
Quote from: trizkut on Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:18:51
Quote from: demik on Sun, 17 May 2015, 13:03:49
Neg. what you do is buy that ****. Plug that **** and type that ****.


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