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G100s ?
« on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 12:50:22 »
Tp4 got the G100s on Ebay because p00r.

But, It's seriously one of the best suited mouse for D2F-01F

The PCB makes everything a FLUSH drop-in.

The Shell is Very good for the swap, and requires NO-filing.


Weighs only 68 ish grams with the weights removed..

The Mouse very much requires after market mouse feet, because the center plastic feet is not teflon, and very scratchy..

Check out the takasta store on ebay, he sells the feet set with the center ring that is made out of teflon.


The mouse becomes very sensitive and hair-trigger-ee.. 
______May not be suitable for people who do harsh mouse smackdowns.


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My only complaint is that the mousefeet are too thin (low)..

I think I'mma put some tape and prop um' up. /update, it worked, much smoother now.
I think its' still wise to order some aftermarket mousefeet for this mouse.

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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 14:18:13 »
Man This thing is So super light..

I don't even feel it...

Wow...

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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 17:18:20 »
Man This thing is So super light..

I don't even feel it...

Wow...
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What u usin it for? Quake 3? Why you need sickly light mouse?
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 17:50:22 »
D2F-01F = Down To **** One Female?
My wife I a also push her button . But now she have her button push by a different men. So I buy a keyboard a mechanicale, she a reliable like a Fiat.

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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:11:46 »
D2F-01F = DTF One Female?

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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:15:35 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:25:05 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...


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« Reply #7 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:27:07 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...

Good point. That mouse looks retro though it is new.
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:30:11 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...

Good point. That mouse looks retro though it is new.

I really think it's Logitech's homage to the WMO..

I mean.. the shell design is almost identical except it's got a narrow butt-area

The way the top shell is attached, via a 3 piece plastic hooks..

The freedom of the button flaps..

If you look at the mouse horizontally, it's exactly like the wmo but not as Tall-Fat..

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:38:17 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...

Good point. That mouse looks retro though it is new.

I really think it's Logitech's homage to the WMO..

I mean.. the shell design is almost identical except it's got a narrow butt-area

The way the top shell is attached, via a 3 piece plastic hooks..

The freedom of the button flaps..

If you look at the mouse horizontally, it's exactly like the wmo but not as Tall-Fat..

I agree, certainly looks that way. Crap, now I want one.
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 18:49:28 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...

Good point. That mouse looks retro though it is new.

I really think it's Logitech's homage to the WMO..

I mean.. the shell design is almost identical except it's got a narrow butt-area

The way the top shell is attached, via a 3 piece plastic hooks..

The freedom of the button flaps..

If you look at the mouse horizontally, it's exactly like the wmo but not as Tall-Fat..

I agree, certainly looks that way. Crap, now I want one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-G100s-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/111632343464?hash=item19fdce61a8&_trkparms=5374%3AFeatured|5373%3A0

Best $11.99 mouse money can buy...


But honestly,  If you already haz a billion computer mice.. You prolly don't need more..



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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 19:18:48 »
Why no suitable for hard smackdowns?

Because the buttons are now closer to the shell..  It's more easy to trigger them..


I've seen some players (back in the day) 2003-ish @ lans, where they move the mouse a long distance, then pick it up "quite high" into the air, and drop it back down...

Good point. That mouse looks retro though it is new.

I really think it's Logitech's homage to the WMO..

I mean.. the shell design is almost identical except it's got a narrow butt-area

The way the top shell is attached, via a 3 piece plastic hooks..

The freedom of the button flaps..

If you look at the mouse horizontally, it's exactly like the wmo but not as Tall-Fat..

I agree, certainly looks that way. Crap, now I want one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Logitech-G100s-Ambidextrous-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/111632343464?hash=item19fdce61a8&_trkparms=5374%3AFeatured|5373%3A0

Best $11.99 mouse money can buy...


But honestly,  If you already haz a billion computer mice.. You prolly don't need more..

Moar is bettah. For in the collection. How did you do the mod?
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 15 April 2016, 20:30:08 »
Alrite..

I've thoroughly inspected the design of the mouse, looking for the cause of the mysterious Double-Click-Dilemma, that G100S h8ers love to chant..

Obviously, My G100s doesn't have any issues, I just got it this morning and soldered in brand new switches.


Now,  I looked for several potential causes..

PCB Bending__  (I removed the scroll wheel, and assembled the mouse, I shined a light into the cavity and clicked the button flaps all the way down,  No signs of PCB flexing from either the right or left buttons.

Bad Soldering__ the Original Soldering was Damn good..  Tp4's soldering is not as good, but it should be sufficient..


So only 2 other possibilities remain

The amount of Over-travel__ that this shell design allows.

So, for example, if omron makes a weak batch of buttons, they may work fine in other mouse shells,   but the G100S shell is special in that it is very flexible, and has longer travel than say a G400..  so you're pressing m0re Deeply into the button.. which could increase wear/tear


Shell warping due to heat__ over time..   So this is an all black mouse,  the Top shell is quite thin.

Over time, for example, if left in the Sun, the top shell could conceivably warp downwards slightly.. this may cause the flap to not fully disengage the button.. causing double-click..



Only time will say for sure.... If I ever get the double click issue.

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 16 April 2016, 04:04:48 »
Alrite..

Only time will say for sure.... If I ever get the double click issue.

That's some fine intel you got there tp!
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 16 April 2016, 17:50:54 »
OK guys.. I'm calling it..

G100s > G400

70 grams vs 107 grams


The weight advantage is too much to ignore... 

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« Reply #15 on: Sat, 16 April 2016, 17:57:25 »
OK guys.. I'm calling it..

G100s > G400

70 grams vs 107 grams


The weight advantage is too much to ignore... 
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DAMMIT now I really need to get one and try it out. I'm gonna introduce a new term for when someone makes me want to buy something instantly: "walletrape".

Anywayz... that weight advantage is huge. What's the weight of the original wmo again?
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Re: G100s ?
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 16 April 2016, 18:22:58 »
OK guys.. I'm calling it..

G100s > G400

70 grams vs 107 grams


The weight advantage is too much to ignore... 
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DAMMIT now I really need to get one and try it out. I'm gonna introduce a new term for when someone makes me want to buy something instantly: "walletrape".

Anywayz... that weight advantage is huge. What's the weight of the original wmo again?

This WMO pictured is Switch modded, Wheel lubed, Thick feet, Mx-Spring loaded.

But, Don't get a G100s, just because some random internet guy says so..

Gotta think about your playstyle first..  Tp4 = Lazy,  I just don't like moving heavy things around..  I play at medium-high sensitivity 1200 to 2400 depending on the game..

I like the G100s mostly because I can easily move it with just my fingers,  so it feels like I have an extra degree of fine precision..

So I still use my arms for wider movements, but for sniping I can rely on just my fingers, and the mouse is light enough that it will respond..

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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 00:07:01 »
How is the laser on the G100s? I've had weird tracking issues with the G300s.

As far as no thrills mice go I have my eye on a Corsair KATAR. Though the G700s is extremely tantalizing. My Deathadder is five years old and is really showing its wear and I don't play enough video games anymore to really make $70 for a mouse worthwhile.

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:51:42 »
OK guys.. I'm calling it..

G100s > G400

70 grams vs 107 grams


The weight advantage is too much to ignore... 
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DAMMIT now I really need to get one and try it out. I'm gonna introduce a new term for when someone makes me want to buy something instantly: "walletrape".

Anywayz... that weight advantage is huge. What's the weight of the original wmo again?

This is Switch modded, Wheel lubed, Thick feet, Mx-Spring loaded.

But, Don't get a G100s, just because some random internet guy says so..

Gotta think about your playstyle first..  Tp4 = Lazy,  I just don't like moving heavy things around..  I play at medium-high sensitivity 1200 to 2400 depending on the game..

I like the G100s mostly because I can easily move it with just my fingers,  so it feels like I have an extra degree of fine precision..

So I still use my arms for wider movements, but for sniping I can rely on just my fingers, and the mouse is light enough that it will respond..

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Thanks for the info tp. Would but it for FPS. I am looking for an insanely light mouse. Usually, I like heavier mouse coz... I dunno... I like having some weight in my hand. Just for funz to get me a really light one. See what the fuz is about that these "pro gamers" are telling... that you need a really light mouse to do fps properly.
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 06:52:09 »
How is the laser on the G100s? I've had weird tracking issues with the G300s.

As far as no thrills mice go I have my eye on a Corsair KATAR. Though the G700s is extremely tantalizing. My Deathadder is five years old and is really showing its wear and I don't play enough video games anymore to really make $70 for a mouse worthwhile.

What tracking issues specifically?
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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 09:23:11 »
How is the laser on the G100s? I've had weird tracking issues with the G300s.

As far as no thrills mice go I have my eye on a Corsair KATAR. Though the G700s is extremely tantalizing. My Deathadder is five years old and is really showing its wear and I don't play enough video games anymore to really make $70 for a mouse worthwhile.

The G100s uses invisible infrared LED.. not laser

The tracking is Great..


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70grams, ultra light weight.
Easy Mod-ability, good pcb accessibility, soldering platform
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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 09:24:22 »
Where'd you get those D2F-01Fs?
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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 09:36:49 »
Where'd you get those D2F-01Fs?

Mouser.com --legit-- supplier..   Ebay haz counterfeits/fakes

If you're decide on D2F ..  Get 25 at a time... You won't use them all,  but considering they charge $5 shipping.. You may as well..




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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 10:01:08 »
Where'd you get those D2F-01Fs?

Mouser.com --legit-- supplier..   Ebay haz counterfeits/fakes

If you're decide on D2F ..  Get 25 at a time... You won't use them all,  but considering they charge $5 shipping.. You may as well..

Good point.. thanks!

Any tips on a good soldering station and/or what equipment I need (like aluminum for soldering and desoldering stuff equipment whatevahz)?
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 10:56:05 »
Where'd you get those D2F-01Fs?

Mouser.com --legit-- supplier..   Ebay haz counterfeits/fakes

If you're decide on D2F ..  Get 25 at a time... You won't use them all,  but considering they charge $5 shipping.. You may as well..

Good point.. thanks!

Any tips on a good soldering station and/or what equipment I need (like aluminum for soldering and desoldering stuff equipment whatevahz)?


Get a soldering PUMP. this will save you alot of headache throughout ur soldering career.. Spring loaded, don't use the rubber ball ones.

If this is just for keyboard and mouse, you don't need expensive soldering gear if you're not doing large volumes.

I'd recommend a soldering iron in the $30 range, if you intend on soldering well into the future..

the $8-15 irons, break more often..


Solder,  anything  63/37 (leaded) will work.. 0.5-0.8mm thickness..  You don't have to get name brand..

If you've never soldered before, don't get unleaded solder, you'll prolly overheat the pcb traces, because unleaded doesn't melt/flow as easily at low heat.




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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 17 April 2016, 12:44:25 »
Where'd you get those D2F-01Fs?

Mouser.com --legit-- supplier..   Ebay haz counterfeits/fakes

If you're decide on D2F ..  Get 25 at a time... You won't use them all,  but considering they charge $5 shipping.. You may as well..

Good point.. thanks!

Any tips on a good soldering station and/or what equipment I need (like aluminum for soldering and desoldering stuff equipment whatevahz)?


Get a soldering PUMP. this will save you alot of headache throughout ur soldering career.. Spring loaded, don't use the rubber ball ones.

If this is just for keyboard and mouse, you don't need expensive soldering gear if you're not doing large volumes.

I'd recommend a soldering iron in the $30 range, if you intend on soldering well into the future..

the $8-15 irons, break more often..


Solder,  anything  63/37 (leaded) will work.. 0.5-0.8mm thickness..  You don't have to get name brand..

If you've never soldered before, don't get unleaded solder, you'll prolly overheat the pcb traces, because unleaded doesn't melt/flow as easily at low heat.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:17:35 »
I also have a G100s and a few G100 (both got the middle double click issue damnit)

and yes they are damn light, using it for my download rig, dont think i will ever use them for anything gaming wise...
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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:21:54 »
I also have a G100s and a few G100 (both got the middle double click issue damnit)

and yes they are damn light, using it for my download rig, dont think i will ever use them for anything gaming wise...

What's the middle double click issue? That the latency is too short and you occasionally double click?
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:24:47 »
I also have a G100s and a few G100 (both got the middle double click issue damnit)

and yes they are damn light, using it for my download rig, dont think i will ever use them for anything gaming wise...

What's the middle double click issue? That the latency is too short and you occasionally double click?

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:55:51 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:57:09 »
I also have a G100s and a few G100 (both got the middle double click issue damnit)

and yes they are damn light, using it for my download rig, dont think i will ever use them for anything gaming wise...

What's the middle double click issue? That the latency is too short and you occasionally double click?

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

That's very annoying. I must say that nowadays I find middle mouse buttons sucking almost always. So I've just stopped using them. Even on my Avior 7000 which has not side scroll (which is usually better for mmb feel / performance).
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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:57:40 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Can't you just flip that mofo out and replace it with something decent? Or is it more difficult with dem scrollwheel?
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 10:59:45 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Can't you just flip that mofo out and replace it with something decent? Or is it more difficult with dem scrollwheel?

I replaced all 4 with weeaboo omrons..  so yes, can replace..

But at this point, there's only been MYTH surrounding WHY the double clicking occurs.. No one has definitively found the root Cause...


Some people think it's static build up "in the switches" (prolly not),  some people think it's poor quality parts, (this is def not the case), I looked at the soldering, it's wonderful..  Lead solder.. shiny joints,  everything is peachy..


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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:01:57 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

dayum this is the ****ty part of them all, I always use my mouse's scrollwheel click to open/ close tabs and the double clicking is driving me insane every time, can say that is the main reason why I changed my mouse... other buttons literally no issues... just th goddamn middle scrollwheel click....  >:D

I also have a G100s and a few G100 (both got the middle double click issue damnit)

and yes they are damn light, using it for my download rig, dont think i will ever use them for anything gaming wise...

What's the middle double click issue? That the latency is too short and you occasionally double click?

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

That's very annoying. I must say that nowadays I find middle mouse buttons sucking almost always. So I've just stopped using them. Even on my Avior 7000 which has not side scroll (which is usually better for mmb feel / performance).

Yea man, the middle mouse button sucks so hard... cant they make decent ones for once.... since they go all ahoy with gaming and whatnot...


nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Can't you just flip that mofo out and replace it with something decent? Or is it more difficult with dem scrollwheel?

I replaced all 4 with weeaboo omrons..  so yes, can replace..

But at this point, there's only been MYTH surrounding WHY the double clicking occurs.. No one has definitively found the root Cause...


Some people think it's static build up "in the switches" (prolly not),  some people think it's poor quality parts, (this is def not the case), I looked at the soldering, it's wonderful..  Lead solder.. shiny joints,  everything is peachy..



Good one tp, I cant accomplish what you did with those switch replacement as I dont have what it takes for me to pull such feat off (no skills + no tools = get new mouse)

there are 2 types of Omrons that I know of, one is of "crispier" clicks and lighter, faster response, while another one is harder, and "duller" clicks, the one you using, D2F-01F is which one?

I personally like the lighter one, my Strix Claw is using that one I suppose...
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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:06:02 »
Yea man, the middle mouse button sucks so hard... cant they make decent ones for once.... since they go all ahoy with gaming and whatnot...

It's been so annoying and so long since I have used mmb, that I even forgot what I used it for in games!
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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:07:50 »
I think I could however rule out "shell" problem..

Because some users report double click issue in the first few month they own the mouse..

Assuming, it's not the case that they leave it out to soak in sunlight near a hot window, I don't see how the shell could've deteriorated in such little time..


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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:08:10 »
Yea man, the middle mouse button sucks so hard... cant they make decent ones for once.... since they go all ahoy with gaming and whatnot...

It's been so annoying and so long since I have used mmb, that I even forgot what I used it for in games!

hahaha.... in games mostly is either use for scope in/ out or throw grenade I suppose if you meant those FPS games  :D
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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:09:27 »
Yea man, the middle mouse button sucks so hard... cant they make decent ones for once.... since they go all ahoy with gaming and whatnot...

It's been so annoying and so long since I have used mmb, that I even forgot what I used it for in games!

hahaha.... in games mostly is either use for scope in/ out or throw grenade I suppose if you meant those FPS games  :D

I think I even used it some time for jumping in FPS. And indeed zoom in with sniper. Aaaah ut1999 GOTY memories relive..
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:23:21 »


Good one tp, I cant accomplish what you did with those switch replacement as I dont have what it takes for me to pull such feat off (no skills + no tools = get new mouse)

there are 2 types of Omrons that I know of, one is of "crispier" clicks and lighter, faster response, while another one is harder, and "duller" clicks, the one you using, D2F-01F is which one?

I personally like the lighter one, my Strix Claw is using that one I suppose...

The D2FC-7N is the stock standards in almost every mice.

They have less travel distance, and produce a higher pitch click sound.

The D2F-01F is the weeaboo counterpart, they have slightly more travel +0.2mm

They also make a lower pitch sound..


They're both -crisp-..  but I've noticed that on the D2FC-7N, the tactility weakens more quickly..

I have the old ball-mouse microsoft intellimouse which has all D2F-01F,  and the tactility in that is still strong, this mouse survived my childhood, when I believed I could do more damage if I CLICKED HARDER,  so, it's been through much-abuse..

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Good one tp, I cant accomplish what you did with those switch replacement as I dont have what it takes for me to pull such feat off (no skills + no tools = get new mouse)

there are 2 types of Omrons that I know of, one is of "crispier" clicks and lighter, faster response, while another one is harder, and "duller" clicks, the one you using, D2F-01F is which one?

I personally like the lighter one, my Strix Claw is using that one I suppose...

The D2FC-7N is the stock standards in almost every mice.

They have less travel distance, and produce a higher pitch click sound.

The D2F-01F is the weeaboo counterpart, they have slightly more travel +0.2mm

They also make a lower pitch sound..


They're both -crisp-..  but I've noticed that on the D2FC-7N, the tactility weakens more quickly..

I have the old ball-mouse microsoft intellimouse which has all D2F-01F,  and the tactility in that is still strong, this mouse survived my childhood, when I believed I could do more damage if I CLICKED HARDER,  so, it's been through much-abuse..
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I see... then mine should be the weaboo switch then, but though they deteriorate faster, i still prefer them XD

I think almost all new G series logi mice uses the lighter ones, e.g the g402, g502 etc.
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:39:14 »
I swapped the switches on mine too a few months ago. One of the main issues I had with this mouse was the overly long travel distance, fixed that.

Now if I only could get used to the shape :S

Doesn't suit me as well as my g9x or mico. My next bet is a LMO clone.
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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:40:38 »


Good one tp, I cant accomplish what you did with those switch replacement as I dont have what it takes for me to pull such feat off (no skills + no tools = get new mouse)

there are 2 types of Omrons that I know of, one is of "crispier" clicks and lighter, faster response, while another one is harder, and "duller" clicks, the one you using, D2F-01F is which one?

I personally like the lighter one, my Strix Claw is using that one I suppose...

The D2FC-7N is the stock standards in almost every mice.

They have less travel distance, and produce a higher pitch click sound.

The D2F-01F is the weeaboo counterpart, they have slightly more travel +0.2mm

They also make a lower pitch sound..


They're both -crisp-..  but I've noticed that on the D2FC-7N, the tactility weakens more quickly..

I have the old ball-mouse microsoft intellimouse which has all D2F-01F,  and the tactility in that is still strong, this mouse survived my childhood, when I believed I could do more damage if I CLICKED HARDER,  so, it's been through much-abuse..
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I see... then mine should be the weaboo switch then, but though they deteriorate faster, i still prefer them XD

I think almost all new G series logi mice uses the lighter ones, e.g the g402, g502 etc.

yea all the mice come with d2fc-7n..  almost no mice has the d2f-01f these days..


only the ducky secret -as of late, has the d2f-01f.


I'm not sure it's an issue of cost..  I think it's just because the d2fc-7n has less travel

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:44:38 »
I think it at least partially comes down to cost, d2f-01f are made at the Japanese factory.
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Good one tp, I cant accomplish what you did with those switch replacement as I dont have what it takes for me to pull such feat off (no skills + no tools = get new mouse)

there are 2 types of Omrons that I know of, one is of "crispier" clicks and lighter, faster response, while another one is harder, and "duller" clicks, the one you using, D2F-01F is which one?

I personally like the lighter one, my Strix Claw is using that one I suppose...

The D2FC-7N is the stock standards in almost every mice.

They have less travel distance, and produce a higher pitch click sound.

The D2F-01F is the weeaboo counterpart, they have slightly more travel +0.2mm

They also make a lower pitch sound..


They're both -crisp-..  but I've noticed that on the D2FC-7N, the tactility weakens more quickly..

I have the old ball-mouse microsoft intellimouse which has all D2F-01F,  and the tactility in that is still strong, this mouse survived my childhood, when I believed I could do more damage if I CLICKED HARDER,  so, it's been through much-abuse..
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I see... then mine should be the weaboo switch then, but though they deteriorate faster, i still prefer them XD

I think almost all new G series logi mice uses the lighter ones, e.g the g402, g502 etc.

yea all the mice come with d2fc-7n..  almost no mice has the d2f-01f these days..


only the ducky secret -as of late, has the d2f-01f.


I'm not sure it's an issue of cost..  I think it's just because the d2fc-7n has less travel

Any idea what the Avior 7000 comes with? I'm curious what switch I have under mah hands now..
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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:13:20 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Still love my deathadder though.

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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:36:51 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Still love my deathadder though.

best mouse I have ever used and will buy another if my current one ever dies

Deathadder haz omrons..   at least razor did that right..

But they did cheap us out on the side buttons, which are not omrons..

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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 12:39:11 »


Any idea what the Avior 7000 comes with? I'm curious what switch I have under mah hands now..



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Any idea what the Avior 7000 comes with? I'm curious what switch I have under mah hands now..

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Omron d2fc-7n

You the man tp, thanks!

Tried looking up difference between the two but can't really find it.

Looked over at OC.. damm what a variety of switches for mice:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1152386/what-is-the-best-main-model-of-microswitch
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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 21:59:10 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Still love my deathadder though.

best mouse I have ever used and will buy another if my current one ever dies

Deathadder haz omrons..   at least razor did that right..
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But they did cheap us out on the side buttons, which are not omrons..

I think only Ducky Secret got all its buttons Omron switches, others mostly cheap out on either the additional weaboo buttons or the middle scrollwheel button...


On a side note, what is you guys' grip style? Mine is palm + claw hybrid, that is also one of the main reason why I can't use those "ergonomic" mice and mice that has ****loads of side buttons
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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 20 April 2016, 03:43:57 »

nope, the middle scroll wheel click will cause double clicks.... i normally see double clicks on the two right or left buttons, but then in my case, all my mice's double clicks are at the middle scrollwheel.... which is irritating and irks me  >:D >:D

The middle scroll wheel button is Kailh.. and we all know kailh is, well.. Kailh... Razor keyboards use them... that says it all...

Still love my deathadder though.

best mouse I have ever used and will buy another if my current one ever dies

Deathadder haz omrons..   at least razor did that right..
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But they did cheap us out on the side buttons, which are not omrons..

I think only Ducky Secret got all its buttons Omron switches, others mostly cheap out on either the additional weaboo buttons or the middle scrollwheel button...


On a side note, what is you guys' grip style? Mine is palm + claw hybrid, that is also one of the main reason why I can't use those "ergonomic" mice and mice that has ****loads of side buttons

For me it's fingertip / claw hybrid. I've tried palm, but when there is really action going on like in an FPS game, it feels way to relaxed. Actually, true palm grip even gives me some pain in the wrist.
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