Seeing as apparently TP can be allowed to open up an off topic thread directing misinformation and hatred towards particular people, looks like I can do the same.
Go **** yourself, TP. You do nothing all day but post random **** and spam threads in off topic, make 0 contributions to interesting talk and instead choose to remain ignorant of evidence. I addressed every single one of your points and slanders in the old thread, of which you never replied and outright ignored.
I spent months working with other people to try to fix an issue which was not my problem, repeatedly called upon gutz to come out and talk to us, consistently urged users to not file just yet but give gutz a chance to explain the situation, to consistently remain open minded and be open to the possibility of reconciliation from gutz. none of that occurred. Do not even go and consider that I did not give him a fair chance. I gave him more than a fair chance. Breaking the law by mistake is still a mistake - own up to it and actually do something instead of hiding
Do you want to know what I did TP? I tried to help people. I:
1. Urged calm and collectiveness
2. Provided more than reasonable leeway and opportunities fro Gutz
3. I collected data from as many users as I could - I pm'ed to reach out, contact people through emails, and made the entire collection transparent for people to see what is happening. everything I could control was controlled to the best of my ability.
4. Root and I looked into ways to get our money back. We advocated that people go through the correct channels of paypal to get money back, while giving gutz a chance to reply on paypal disputes. In addition, I called, emailed, and talked to people and managers as well as a director within the Moneygram and Western Union organisations to be told that they do not have the measures in place if the cash is withdrawn - it is a cash business. Not tracable, especially given the amount of time that gutz had to withdraw it.
5. We had to deal with members within GH advocating violence/personal confrontations with beserkfan by "visiting his house" in Singapore. Really? I don't believe that I had to even read those posts.
6. Had to deal with TP. He was/is a problem child. Literally.
7. Root found a way for users to get some of their money back from using paypal gift. That is outlined in the reconciliation thread.
All the while, I am down $400. I knew I was getting nothing back. There was no chance of it after I talked to moneygram. I gave ample time. I gave more thjan reasonable leeway for an explanation. Most of my items were double sold, and I have shipped some of what I got to people who ordered the stuff I received because they paid for it. So, TP, don't go saying that I'm the one in the wrong here.
Lets look at what you've done
1. Came into a thread defending Gutz, 1.5 months after he has last replied or done anything. we established that he is gone. You just never read the thread (or... you did and refused to believe it
2. Act like a whiteknight spewing **** that made no sense - and refused to acknowledge any reasonable and coherent argument. By the way, your formatting sucks balls.
3. Spread hatred and misinformation about a situation you weren't even a part of.
TLDR: TP, **** you.
Mods can do what they want. If I get muted though, he better get muted because we would both be guilty of targeting individuals and slandering their names. The only difference is that mine is factual.
