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The Grand Tour
« on: Fri, 25 November 2016, 23:56:53 »
You guys watching this amazing show? It's basically Top Gear with a bigger budget and more cursing. But it's still basically Top Gear, it's freakin' fantastic! 

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 00:00:06 »
It's ****e (so far anyway). I'm amazed that they managed to ruin Top Gear.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 00:02:17 »
I wonder if, in the next episode, they're going to mute "The American" with a white racing helmet, and make him never talk again?

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 00:09:15 »
Not a fan of the first episode.  Hoping it starts to gel after the next couple.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 00:16:57 »
Yeah The American is ill conceived, but I enjoyed the rest of it


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 00:37:55 »
I ****ing can't stand the three of these. And now they want to ruin the car scene with their ****ing Drive Tribe ****?

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 26 November 2016, 01:59:07 »
I was kind of hoping they'd talk about the engineering of the cars more..   But i guess the main demographic probably wants more straightforward entertainment.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 27 November 2016, 01:16:11 »
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 27 November 2016, 07:53:24 »
I was kind of hoping they'd talk about the engineering of the cars more..   But i guess the main demographic probably wants more straightforward entertainment.
I dunno, it was already a very car-centric show... Although that makes sense as it was the USA episode. The Johannesburg one is supposed to be much more about the usual tomfoolery.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 27 November 2016, 15:37:29 »
Unless things change up a little in the next few episodes, I'm going with this show jumped the shark.  Top Gear was great, but so far The Grand Tour just feels like it's trying way too hard and, in the process, alienating the fans of Top Gear.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 27 November 2016, 20:21:26 »
Certain parts of the show are great. Certain other parts are terrible. The car review segments, the power laps, and the "conversation street" bit are pretty much same old top gear, but with bigger production budgets (for the car segments), but stuff like the kill-a-celebrity-every-week segment got really old really fast, the stig replacement is quite frankly annoying af, and their special forces nonsense in the previous episode just fell flat.

Audience interaction in episode 1 was terrible, though I enjoyed the bit on Zuma in the 2nd episode. The bit about the RAF being the best airforce in the world in ep 1 just dragged on and on and on. What were they thinking honestly?

I'm half happy and half disappointed by this show. The best way I've found to watch this new series is to just scrub through the superfluous bits and watch just the car bits. As result episode 2 was like, 15 mins long for me, 17 mins if we include scrubbing time.


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 27 November 2016, 20:58:08 »
I wonder if, in the next episode, they're going to mute "The American" with a white racing helmet, and make him never talk again?
Clarkson sold the rights to Top Gear to the BBC years ago, so they are working extremely hard to differentiate it from Top Gear while still remaining "Top Gear", so much so that lawyers are even censoring specific words like "beautiful" because it was used on Top Gear (there is rumors that they will even make a mention of this at some point).

So you are never going to get the Stig or anything remotely like him on Grand Tour, they will kill that whole segment before he puts on a white helmet and goes silent. This is also why there is no news, no hangar, no static sets, no recliners, car seats, star in a car...  Basically they removed everything Top Gear related they could without removing themselves or the cars. Even the initials of the show are reversed. Personally, some of these things are ridiculously over the top, but when you consider that Top Gar was the most watched show on the planet, you can bet the BBC is not happy with the Grand Tour and is watching everything those three idiots* do or say.

It's going to take them time to regain their footing and if you look at the success rates of spin offs and shows that have survived from such things, Grand Tour and Top Gear both have actually done surprisingly well. OK, other than the ginger idiot who we all knew wouldn't work.  That said, if both shows do get their footing, and I suspect they will, we are the ones who benefit by getting more Top Gear.


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 28 November 2016, 00:29:28 »
I thought the first episode was quite good. The 2nd episode not as great.... the first half of the 2nd was enjoyable.. but the last half just not interesting to me.

Thankfully there is a show at all, even if I have to skip through some of it.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 28 November 2016, 01:53:32 »
I've enjoyed the show so far. Not up to Top Gear standards though. I figure they are still figuring stuff out as far as writing and all that goes. Hopefully they will be able to pull it together a bit more, I found that it wanders a bit.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 06:22:15 »
I'm liking the show, I think it's good. That said, the jokes are a bit too obviously scripted, they were far more subtle at it with Top Gear, and the ultra-stereotypical American driver is just annoying.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 10:07:08 »
I'm liking the show, I think it's good. That said, the jokes are a bit too obviously scripted, they were far more subtle at it with Top Gear, and the ultra-stereotypical American driver is just annoying.


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:05:11 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:14:55 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 12:36:14 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
Basically, there's three American stereotypes. They are; everyone from New York is a money-obsessed ultra-evil corporate intent on spreading as much misery as possible, everyone from California is a tree-hugging hippie whose vocab is restricted to the words "like", "dude" and "ohmygawd", and everyone else in America is basically that driver.

Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 20:21:33 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
Basically, there's three American stereotypes. They are; everyone from New York is a money-obsessed ultra-evil corporate intent on spreading as much misery as possible, everyone from California is a tree-hugging hippie whose vocab is restricted to the words "like", "dude" and "ohmygawd", and everyone else in America is basically that driver.

Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.

Holy ****, people think New Yorkers are shrewd and sophisticated money hounds?

This has always been the stereotype in my mind, even though I lived there for a year

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 20:39:33 »
I would love to see a more in depth review of cars,
nevertheless the show is damn fun
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 21:03:45 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
Basically, there's three American stereotypes. They are; everyone from New York is a money-obsessed ultra-evil corporate intent on spreading as much misery as possible, everyone from California is a tree-hugging hippie whose vocab is restricted to the words "like", "dude" and "ohmygawd", and everyone else in America is basically that driver.

Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.

Holy ****, people think New Yorkers are shrewd and sophisticated money hounds?

This has always been the stereotype in my mind, even though I lived there for a year
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 01 December 2016, 21:14:18 »
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:32:22 »
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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There should be a bright green beacon of hope in the middle for Colorado. That state has it's **** together, every state should be like Colorado.
Colorado is South Park, that probably won't help its image :p .
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 11:21:54 »
just watched episode 3. This was much better. The film this week was great, the audience was great (helps that they were back in the UK, it really felt like it was the old Top Gear audience with they're crowd noises, and smartass comments),and the celebrity death nonsense lasted all of a minute, and then they moved on. Hopefully they eventually cut it out entirely.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 11:25:13 »
They're probably just feeling out the comments to the series so far, experimenting a bit, so it'd make sense the format will change a bit over time. The dead guests will probably go entirely soon, or at least for the next series (they've already planned three).
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 11:58:28 »
It's ****e (so far anyway). I'm amazed that they managed to ruin Top Gear.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:24:03 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
Basically, there's three American stereotypes. They are; everyone from New York is a money-obsessed ultra-evil corporate intent on spreading as much misery as possible, everyone from California is a tree-hugging hippie whose vocab is restricted to the words "like", "dude" and "ohmygawd", and everyone else in America is basically that driver.

Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.

Holy ****, people think New Yorkers are shrewd and sophisticated money hounds?

This has always been the stereotype in my mind, even though I lived there for a year
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:37:31 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
Basically, there's three American stereotypes. They are; everyone from New York is a money-obsessed ultra-evil corporate intent on spreading as much misery as possible, everyone from California is a tree-hugging hippie whose vocab is restricted to the words "like", "dude" and "ohmygawd", and everyone else in America is basically that driver.

Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.

Holy ****, people think New Yorkers are shrewd and sophisticated money hounds?

This has always been the stereotype in my mind, even though I lived there for a year
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:53:24 »
I think it might be closer to this -

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:58:12 »
I think it might be closer to this -
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:59:54 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 17:24:20 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
Most foreigners would still associate that with "howdy y'all" or "ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin" territory xD .
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 19:02:32 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
Most foreigners would still associate that with "howdy y'all" or "ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin" territory xD .

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 19:33:14 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
Most foreigners would still associate that with "howdy y'all" or "ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin" territory xD .

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 19:58:41 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
Most foreigners would still associate that with "howdy y'all" or "ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin" territory xD .

"ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin"

I've never hurd this..  Chyros stop making stuff up..
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 20:33:47 »
Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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What about Florida, we are very special.
Most foreigners would still associate that with "howdy y'all" or "ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin" territory xD .

"ain't no nobody doin' no nuthin"

I've never hurd this..  Chyros stop making stuff up..
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 20:53:48 »
3rd episode was kind of lame..

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 03 December 2016, 17:21:34 »
The entire show is kind of lame. I don't actually feel like the three are allowed to say whatever they want to anymore. The latest episode in particular felt like Rolls Royce, Aston Martin and SRT all had advertisement goals they wanted TGT to hit and not deviate from. James May being overly posh and snooty seems way too scripted.

The jokes all fall flat because none of them are subtle in the least. There are no challenges. The varying locale isn't used to actually do anything interesting.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 03 December 2016, 17:23:27 »
The entire show is kind of lame. I don't actually feel like the three are allowed to say whatever they want to anymore. The latest episode in particular felt like Rolls Royce, Aston Martin and SRT all had advertisement goals they wanted TGT to hit and not deviate from. James May being overly posh and snooty seems way too scripted.

The jokes all fall flat because none of them are subtle in the least. There are no challenges. The varying locale isn't used to actually do anything interesting.

I just like the benchmark runs..  Don't care about the rest of the show.. or the hosts.. hahaha..


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 20:28:04 »
Episode 3 was the first decent one of the bunch.  Not up to Top Gear snuff, but nowhere near as forced as the prior two episodes.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:51:38 »
Episode 3 was the first decent one of the bunch.  Not up to Top Gear snuff, but nowhere near as forced as the prior two episodes.


I think it helps that they were doing it in front of a home crowd. Plus I always felt tg was at its best when they lads went on their road trips.

Looking forward to episode 4 since it's still taking place in Yorkshire.


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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 01:54:35 »
I agree that the 3rd has been the best so far. Be interesting to see what the 4th is like now.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 15:37:52 »
After episode 3 and 4 I am beginning to feel like they can actually get back to being as good as Top Gear. Episode 3 and 4 were pretty good.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 15:56:07 »
Episode 4:
In this episode, Hammon gives Jeremy a bat, James digs a hole and Jeremy breaks some bones.



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This  one is much more traditional TG, not sure it's their best, but certainly not their worst. Clarkson reviews a car (BMW M4 track car) and we finally we get a "challenge" adventure, though I think the challenge was kind of moot, it did give them a sense of purpose. They have to "create" environmentally correct bodies for their cars and then drive somewhere. Celebrity crash is still there, however it seems to be having less and less screen time.
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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 18:13:00 »
1st was pretty good, 2nd episode was whack.

the part about the vulcan was done better by top gear/chris harris, the army part just extended too long, and the joke about the celebrity was **** at the start. oh and the driver is annoying af too.

I feel like.. that driver isn't actually red-neck enuff..

It feels like he's just faking it.. 

They should've gotten jeff foxworthy (too expensive)..   or larry the cable guy (cheep),  cuz these are real red-necks.
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Now of course I know none of those are true, and I enjoy a stereotype joke as much as the next man, but this is so in-your-face and so long and drawn-out, plus it's a really ANNOYING stereotype, not even a funny one.

Holy ****, people think New Yorkers are shrewd and sophisticated money hounds?

This has always been the stereotype in my mind, even though I lived there for a year
Well, that's the international stereotype, at least. I'm sure state stereotypes will be quite different from within the US itself.

Basically, this is what outsiders think the US is like.

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Re: The Grand Tour
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 18:32:11 »
Series overview so far (as of episode 4): Pretty solid, perhaps not as good as the three of them in Top Gear, but much better than the trainwreck that was Chris Evan's Top Gear
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