Author Topic: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs  (Read 2660 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 16:20:55 »
We got  4GB  to  5GB  per dollar on SSDs..

And yet a microsd card is 2-3GB/ 1$



The SSD comes with a Freaking CPU/ Ram and giant pcb relative to Microsd..

These samsung bastards making a killing on Microsd..




Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4518
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 17:47:57 »
They're also slower!



You're paying for the smaller size.
Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 23:22:09 »
Size is not what we're paying extra for....


The package on the ssds are just as small, only they're soldered onto the board..



This is clear price fixing..

Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4518
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 03:17:59 »
I've never seen a 256gb ssd with a single chip on it.
Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 07:56:35 »
I've never seen a 256gb ssd with a single chip on it.

I recall that's because they need to make um thicker for more parallelism and increased write durability..

The node is just as small.

Offline fohat.digs

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 6473
  • Location: 35°55'N, 83°53'W
  • weird funny old guy
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 08:42:19 »
I think that micro SD cards are amazing and beautiful.
"It's 110, but it doesn't feel it to me, right. If anybody goes down. Everybody was so worried yesterday about you and they never mentioned me. I'm up here sweating like a dog. They don’t think about me. This is hard work.
Do you feel the breeze? I don't want anybody going on me. We need every voter. I don't care about you. I just want your vote. I don't care."
- Donald Trump - Las Vegas 2024-06-09


Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:28:45 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...




Offline fanpeople

  • Posts: 970
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:38:24 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...



Show Image


Buy it, having money is for the rich

Offline katushkin

  • Too Keycool for School
  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 3669
  • Location: Birmingham - Not Alabama
  • Just the guy
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:56:16 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...



Show Image


A 128gb SSD from Samsung is about $60.

I don't actually understand what you are complaining about.
Can we get them to build the Alps ten feet higher and get Cherry to pay for it?
Katushkin's Clearout | Twitter | Steam | Instagram| Discord - katushkin

Offline vivalarevolución

  • Posts: 2146
  • Location: Naptown, Indiana, USA
  • Keep it real b/c any other way is too stressful
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 20:12:14 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...



Show Image


A 128gb SSD from Samsung is about $60.

I don't actually understand what you are complaining about.

It's tp, he needs his daily musing or complaint.
Wish I had some gif or quote for this space, but I got nothing

Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4518
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 22:23:50 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...

Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 01:52:25 »
About to buy a 128gb sd card for $60....

But I haz a very distraught and ANGRY feeling inside... 


What do. geekhack.. this feeling is almost as awful as Razer keyboard...

(Attachment Link)


Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 11:05:59 »
What really grinds my gearz..  is that I had to buy a $20 Sd card reader JUST TO TEST and make sure the SD-Card I get isn't a counterfeit..


Offline Leslieann

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4518
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:15:57 »
So your deal on a card wasn't quite a deal after all.

An easier way to test is to just copy as much data as it should hold, or close, it will have massive errors when you do. If for some reason it does take most of the data, try accessing one of the larger files and see if it still works. I believe Linux can also show you the true size if you change the MFT, Windows makes it easier to fake it.

Actually, considering you are worried about it being fake, even though it passed for size, it can still be a counterfeit (even major stores have been ripped off this way) and/or a degraded/defective card that didn't pass a quality check. So while you got a deal on a big card, it may not last long.
« Last Edit: Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:17:57 by Leslieann »
Novelkeys NK65AE w/62g Zilents/39g springs
More
62g Zilents/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, pic
| Filco MJ2 L.E. Vortex Case, Jailhouse Blues, heavily customized
More
Vortex case squared up/blasted finish removed/custom feet/paint/winkey blockoff plate, HID Liberator, stainless steel universal plate, 3d printed adapters, Type C, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, foam sound dampened, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps (o-ringed), Cherry Jailhouse Blues w/lubed/clipped Cherry light springs, 40g actuation
| GMMK TKL
More
w/ Kailh Purple Pros/lubed/Novelkeys 39g springs, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, Netdot Gen10 Magnetic cable
| PF65 3d printed 65% w/LCD and hot swap
More
Box Jades, Interchangeable trim, mini lcd, QMK, underglow, HK Gaming Thick PBT caps, O-rings, Netdot Gen10 magnetic cable, in progress link
| Magicforce 68
More
MF68 pcb, Outemu Blues, in progress
| YMDK75 Jail Housed Gateron Blues
More
J-spacers, YMDK Thick PBT, O-rings, SIP sockets
| KBT Race S L.E.
More
Ergo Clears, custom WASD caps
| Das Pro
More
Costar model with browns
| GH60
More
Cherry Blacks, custom 3d printed case
| Logitech Illumininated | IBM Model M (x2)
Definitive Omron Guide. | 3d printed Keyboard FAQ/Discussion

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 15:25:59 »
So your deal on a card wasn't quite a deal after all.

An easier way to test is to just copy as much data as it should hold, or close, it will have massive errors when you do. If for some reason it does take most of the data, try accessing one of the larger files and see if it still works. I believe Linux can also show you the true size if you change the MFT, Windows makes it easier to fake it.

Actually, considering you are worried about it being fake, even though it passed for size, it can still be a counterfeit (even major stores have been ripped off this way) and/or a degraded/defective card that didn't pass a quality check. So while you got a deal on a big card, it may not last long.


Offline dantan

  • Posts: 288
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 16:50:30 »
A lot are fake right?

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:04:58 »
A lot are fake right?

Yup..

they're everywhere ..

gotta test and bench.. and check for corrupt blocks.

Offline alienman82

  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 4051
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 20:41:53 »
removed.
« Last Edit: Thu, 01 March 2018, 13:27:57 by alienman82 »

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 16 December 2016, 21:05:07 »
are SD the same price mostly as micro SD?  seems to be a rip there too tp4..

They're all ripoffs...

Offline tp4tissue

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 13571
  • Location: Official Geekhack Public Defender..
  • OmniExpert of: Rice, Top-Ramen, Ergodox, n Females
Re: MicroSD cards are Ripoffs
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 21 December 2016, 21:09:36 »
OMG sd cards only have ~9TB of writes ??

/// What a ripoff..