Is SPRiT Designs a scam?

[Blitzschnitzel]

Hi,
I’ve ordered some springs directly from spritdesigns.com this was the cheapest way to get them delivered to Europe and since their products are sold in many other shops they seemed trustworthy. The invoice says: Tracked Air Shipping with Signature (7 Business days). It has been nearly a month now and I haven’t gotten the springs or a shipping confirmation or a tracking number. I’ve sent them two emails and one message via Paypal without reply.
What makes me really suspicious is that there is no mentioning of a business address or even their country of operation anywhere on the website or the invoice.
Has someone already ordered there? Or do you think this shop is a scam?

[lolafineday]

They are legit. Just they take sooo long to ship. Many people have said this. Mine is taking a while aswell.

[killyou]

He ignores me as well, it's been over a month and he is not replying to my messages. That's a second time I order and previously it was OK.

[Puddsy]

sprit has been known to scam in the past but for some reason people still support him

he's banned from selling on GH

[Tequila_Heineken]

Just go ahead and PP dispute. Order on his ebay shop for a more reliable shipping.

[jamster]

sprit has been known to scam in the past but for some reason people still support him

he's banned from selling on GH

I remember this blowing up big time around when I joined three or so years ago. If this is the one guy in Korea.

If it's the same seller, I am amazed that it's still going on.

[_GMK_]

I bought directly from sprit. He was late, but after one month, he delivered some extra sets of springs for free to excuse for the lateness.

[Signature]

Just go ahead and PP dispute. Order on his ebay shop for a more reliable shipping.

Yea don't do this

[Sup]

Just go ahead and PP dispute. Order on his ebay shop for a more reliable shipping.

Yea don't do this

And why not he isn't responding to his messages?

[Signature]

Just go ahead and PP dispute. Order on his ebay shop for a more reliable shipping.

Yea don't do this

And why not he isn't responding to his messages?

Paypal is a doubleedged sword. You might get his attention so you can get your springs, but you might also lock his funds screwing over all the other customers.

However I wouldn't personally buy from sprit, since he has a reputation on being bad on communication.

[HotRoderX]

Just go ahead and PP dispute. Order on his ebay shop for a more reliable shipping.

Yea don't do this

And why not he isn't responding to his messages?

Paypal is a doubleedged sword. You might get his attention so you can get your springs, but you might also lock his funds screwing over all the other customers.

However I wouldn't personally buy from sprit, since he has a reputation on being bad on communication.

While I get your reasoning, its kinda flawed cause your basically giving him a free pass to screw over others. This is the kinda thing thats a real let down and turn off about the community. There so much scaming going on. I think people start with good intentions then things happen they can't deal with it. Though in Spirits case sounds like he is just out to scam in general.

[tp4tissue]

While I get your reasoning, its kinda flawed cause your basically giving him a free pass to screw over others. This is the kinda thing thats a real let down and turn off about the community. There so much scaming going on. I think people start with good intentions then things happen they can't deal with it. Though in Spirits case sounds like he is just out to scam in general.

HotroderX,   Have you seen any evidence of such Scamming.

Please link,  otherwise,  you have to be clear you are not accusing user -spirit- of scam.


Not saying you're wrong, but you gotta link, otherwise people won't know, and it's just yelling.

[tp4tissue]

sprit has been known to scam in the past but for some reason people still support him

he's banned from selling on GH

Gotta provide links.

[HouseofSuffering]

While I get your reasoning, its kinda flawed cause your basically giving him a free pass to screw over others. This is the kinda thing thats a real let down and turn off about the community. There so much scaming going on. I think people start with good intentions then things happen they can't deal with it. Though in Spirits case sounds like he is just out to scam in general.

HotroderX,   Have you seen any evidence of such Scamming.

Please link,  otherwise,  you have to be clear you are not accusing user -spirit- of scam.


Not saying you're wrong, but you gotta link, otherwise people won't know, and it's just yelling.

sprit has been known to scam in the past but for some reason people still support him

he's banned from selling on GH

Gotta provide links.

Sprit is indeed a scammer. If you are buying his springs, buy them from a reputable Vendor and not directly from him.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=55888.0

just go to the last page of his group buys and see for yourself.
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Sprit scammed me for over $200. He strung me along for so long i could no longer dispute it.

[hamilton]

I ordered some of his springs from mechanicalkeyboards.com about a week ago, and a couple of days ago I noticed the availability changed to pre-order: 4/10/19. Support told me they were waiting on a shipment that should arrive soon. Now today, the availability just says "Out of stock". I wonder how long it will be until mk get's their shipment in.

[Signature]

While I get your reasoning, its kinda flawed

Sorry, me bad you good.

This is the kinda thing thats a real let down and turn off about the community. There so much scaming going on. I think people start with good intentions then things happen they can't deal with it.

It's true that Sprit has scammed on GH and is thus banned from sales, but imo we don't have a problem with scamming on a community basis. Sure there are always the few bad apples/individuals but they are really seldom nowadays.

Though in Spirits case sounds like he is just out to scam in general.

Sprit is known for having really bad communication, as shown in his massive GB here, resulting in many people not recieving what they ordered. From what I've heard he seems to be able to provide springs from his own website but with a hefty delay. I don't recommend you support him for his shady past, but I also don't think he's out to scam you on 10$ worth of springs.

[Blitzschnitzel]

Even if it should not be a scam but just a guy overwhelmed by shipping and customer support, I’ll dispute the order on Paypal. If he can’t handle these everyday shop operations, then he shouldn’t sell to end customers. Also, he shouldn't promise shipping times which he cant't keep. I would be surprised if the reputable resellers order from him via Paypal.
Does anyone know a European source for Kailh box springs 25g? When I order from the US shipping is more expensive than the springs.

[HouseofSuffering]

Even if it should not a scam but just a guy overwhelmed by shipping and customer support, I’ll dispute the order on Paypal. If he can’t handle these everyday shop operations, then he shouldn’t sell to end customers. Also, he shouldn't promise shipping times which he cant't keep. I would be surprised if the reputable resellers order from him via Paypal.
Does anyone know a European source for Kailh box springs 25g? When I order from the US shipping is more expensive than the springs.

Finally, someone with some common sense. Some of the comments I see on here from older members makes me wonder about this place.......

If you steal from someone.....let alone multiple people for hundred and thousands of dollars over and over again, you are a thief.....plane and simple.

Just because you occasionally sell some people some $10 springs that you source and re-brand, doesn't change the Fact that you stole from people over and over again.....and are a thief.



Threads like this pop up over and over again and I will always post in them to try to keep people from possibly losing their money.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97174.msg2656380#msg2656380

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96126.msg2656385#msg2656385

If you must buy "Sprit" springs (because let's be honest there aren't many options out there) do so from a reputable third party and let them take the risk. It is as simple as that.

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

I was considering making a thread here myself.

I made a post on Reddit a little while ago. After multiple attempts at contacting him I disputed the paypal transaction and escalated it. Still pending.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/b7whju/sprit_springs_scamming_again/

I knew about Sprits past but after some research many posted in various places that more recently Sprit had become reliable and even sending photographic proof of packaged goods with tracking numbers. So I flipped the coin because Sprit springs were the ones I wanted.

Some people say just order from Ebay. I am not going to support a business that operates in this way plain and simple.

[Sup]

While I get your reasoning, its kinda flawed

Sorry, me bad you good.

This is the kinda thing thats a real let down and turn off about the community. There so much scaming going on. I think people start with good intentions then things happen they can't deal with it.

It's true that Sprit has scammed on GH and is thus banned from sales, but imo we don't have a problem with scamming on a community basis. Sure there are always the few bad apples/individuals but they are really seldom nowadays.

Though in Spirits case sounds like he is just out to scam in general.

Sprit is known for having really bad communication, as shown in his massive GB here, resulting in many people not recieving what they ordered. From what I've heard he seems to be able to provide springs from his own website but with a hefty delay. I don't recommend you support him for his shady past, but I also don't think he's out to scam you on 10$ worth of springs.

Yeah you think he won't scam for 10 dollars but if you have let's say 200 people buying his springs yeah that 10 dollar adds up to 2k. It's kinda weird to see a moderator defend a banned seller from Geekhack that did scam people and it's confirmed. He is also banned from the Korean mechanical keyboard community if i remember.

[_GMK_]

I'm buying from him because there's simply no alternative.

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

TX springs? That's where I'm gonna get my next set.

[Prelim]

I've bought from SPRIT many times without any hassle (outside his GBs), so I don't really understand you guys... if you are buying from him and don't receive your orders, why not simply ask for a PP refund?

I think the only people who got really screwed in the past, where the ones entering the GBs (with lots of money) and waiting more than 6 months for it... by the time they want to complain and ask for a refund, it was no longer possible

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

I've bought from SPRIT many times without any hassle (outside his GBs), so I don't really understand you guys... if you are buying from him and don't receive your orders, why not simply ask for a PP refund?

I think the only people who got really screwed in the past, where the ones entering the GBs (with lots of money) and waiting more than 6 months for it... by the time they want to complain and ask for a refund, it was no longer possible

Check out the Reddit post I linked a couple posts up. It's not as simple as it seems. Been almost 50 days since I ordered. ZERO communication after multiple attempts and no springs. Lots of people with the same issues.

PayPal disputes can take up to 30 days to complete and don't always go in your favor. So asking for a refund isn't that simple. And you spend more time than it's worth just trying not to be take advantage of.

Glad your transactions have gone smoothly. But scratching my head trying to figure out how that excuses him from critism for screwing people over. $5 or $5,000 doesn't matter.

[Zeimus]

I had to pick my package up at the post office.

[mdlt97]

idk, ive ordered from hi probably at least 5 times for springs in the past 8 months and always had great service and he would usually respond within 5 minutes

Even when i hear other dont get the same they always get their stuff eventually, so make a claim if you want but you really have no proof he has scammed you, he doesn't say the order will be shipped in X amount of days, or anything. It might make it actually respond to you tho. But you likely dont win the claim.

I still have yet to hear of someone who got scammed over springs from sprit, but his packages always take a long time unless you pay for EMS

[killyou]

Is there any alternative to SPRiT progressive springs?

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

idk, ive ordered from hi probably at least 5 times for springs in the past 8 months and always had great service and he would usually respond within 5 minutes

Even when i hear other dont get the same they always get their stuff eventually, so make a claim if you want but you really have no proof he has scammed you, he doesn't say the order will be shipped in X amount of days, or anything. It might make it actually respond to you tho. But you likely dont win the claim.

I still have yet to hear of someone who got scammed over springs from sprit, but his packages always take a long time unless you pay for EMS

I mean that is terrific you had a trouble free experience time and time again. Wish I could say the same. Shame because I love his products.

Also just because you hadnt heard of people not getting their orders doesnt mean it doesnt happen. It's been over 2 months since I ordered with ZERO emails, a tracking number that doesnt work and no springs. And in my reddit post a few weeks ago many others came forward saying they had the same issue.

**NOTE.

My refund came through. PayPal didnt receive a response from him and ruled in my favor. Emails is one thing but if you are doing daily transactions via paypal surely you are going to notice a claim dispute against your account and act.

[Blitzschnitzel]

... he doesn't say the order will be shipped in X amount of days, or anything. It might make it actually respond to you tho. But you likely dont win the claim.

Well, he claims shipping within 1 or 2 days on his website and the invoice promises delivery within 7 business days and tracking.
If someone has a few spare 25g/30g springs I would like to buy some^^. I never needed a 100 anyways.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100202.0

[Telstar]

My refund came through. PayPal didnt receive a response from him and ruled in my favor. Emails is one thing but if you are doing daily transactions via paypal surely you are going to notice a claim dispute against your account and act.

When the seller does not respond within 10 days, PP automatically refunds you.
I would like to try progressive and slow springs plus get some others gold-plated but I'm a bit hesitant to order directly.

[fish_oh]

Oh crap on a donkey...
I just ordered from sprit a week ago, emailed him twice and no response.

Not sure if I should wait.

[jamster]

I'm buying from him because there's simply no alternative.

In my opinion, there is a simple alternative. Just don't order and live without them. They're just freakin' springs. Trivial in the grand scheme of things and not worth supporting terrible business practices for.

It's not like the guy is selling the world's only supply of insulin or something.

[cepate11]

I can add my experience. I purchased some springs from him on March 31, they arrived in the US on April 13, where I had to pick them up at the post office as they wouldn't leave them without signature (lol).

I ordered four different kinds of springs, and there was only 3 kinds in there. I emailed him telling him about the discrepancy immediately and have still have received no response.

Based on various other peoples experiences, I likely will not receive these, but I knew the risk going in. In the future I will go with TX or through the ebay store, as I was told he won't **** with ebay.

[Blitzschnitzel]

Complain via Paypal. He also doesn’t respond to Paypal’s messages so you automatically get your money back.

[futurecrime]

I bought springs from Kin today and got shipping notice about an hour later. Haven't used them before, but by all accounts they sound good, and Kin is a very lovely man. https://txkeyboards.com/en/

[tex_live_utility]

It sounds like Sprit has started fall into hold habits... whereas last year he was just taking a long time to ship, now he's started ghosting people, screwing up orders, etc. I've been hearing more and more reports recently of people having to file Paypal claims, having even those go un-answered. Whatever talk he talked about having changed his ways was clearly untrue.

[Sup]

I bought springs from Kin today and got shipping notice about an hour later. Haven't used them before, but by all accounts they sound good, and Kin is a very lovely man. https://txkeyboards.com/en/

All good i got mine in 2-3 weeks from Korea untracked. All good 

[donkey]

I bought springs from SPRiT twice in the past and had no problem. Forget about 7 day delivery though. Both orders took a little over 2 weeks which is at par with shipping from China and Taiwan. My third order  is on the way.

As to why he doesn't communicate, I suspect it's the stress of communicating in English because he responds immediately when I communicated in Korean. I have to blame the education system over there. They want to appear like a professional business so they are afraid to communicate in broken English. And they don't use Google translator because they know translator is imperfect. As stupid as that sounds, that's how it is.

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

[sJ1N]

Just to add my experience.. i've tried ordering progressive springs like 2 months ago and have sent 2 Emails - none of which he responded to. I've then decided to order some tx springs and they arrived at my door a week later. I would love for someone to actually compare these springs - it looks like sprit is still the only one offering 'progressive' type springs and i would like to try them. Not sure if i wanna take the paypal route, i'd rather see them show up one day.

[donkey]

If your order was 2 months ago then you should file a Paypal dispute because, while I don't think SPRiT is a scammer, he has a history of being unreliable.

Re progressive springs, I tried 63.5P, 65P, and 68P with Holy Panda but didn't like it because it was too light at top and too heavy at bottom. You need a bit of resistance at top to get more out of tactile bump so light top reduced tactility. And heavy bottom strained my hand. What I use now is regular 63.5g SPRiT spring. 300 I had in hand wasn't enough to cover all the Holy Panda boards so I have another 300 on the way.

[romevi]

I bought springs from SPRiT twice in the past and had no problem. Forget about 7 day delivery though. Both orders took a little over 2 weeks which is at par with shipping from China and Taiwan. My third order  is on the way.

As to why he doesn't communicate, I suspect it's the stress of communicating in English because he responds immediately when I communicated in Korean. I have to blame the education system over there. They want to appear like a professional business so they are afraid to communicate in broken English. And they don't use Google translator because they know translator is imperfect. As stupid as that sounds, that's how it is.

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

It doesn't explain him not sending orders. There's no communication necessary to make a label from the purchase.

[Rob27shred]

sprit has been known to scam in the past but for some reason people still support him

he's banned from selling on GH

^ 100% This. Also beyond that Spirit got his start from a really big fraudulent GB for springs & a few other things, that people who participated in still to this day (it was ran like 4 yrs. ago I believe) have not received what they ordered. I know it's hard to get springs since Spirit is the only person who is constantly selling them, but I would at least consider getting Spirit products from a secondary vendor. That way you don't have to worry about getting ripped off by or directly ordering through him & you are only passively supporting him. Hopefully someone more trustworthy will step up & start sourcing/selling springs soon so we don't have to support Spirit at all anymore. I was hoping Catweewee would stay in the game, but from what I've heard they are done selling springs.

[donkey]

sprit.j1@gmail.com is the email I have on the latest shipping notice.

Was that the email used to inquire?

FYI, I sent an email asking about the mentioned unshipped orders.

[tonsoffun49]

**NOTE.

My refund came through. PayPal didnt receive a response from him and ruled in my favor. Emails is one thing but if you are doing daily transactions via paypal surely you are going to notice a claim dispute against your account and act.

I had waited over a month with zero communication from him. I had to file with PayPal and they ruled in my favor when he never responded. It's a shame really.

[Blitzschnitzel]

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

Sorry but a nickname is not an identity. And not having any name or business address or even country anywhere on the website or invoice just screams SCAM. I should have looked more closely before ordering.

[Sup]

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

Sorry but a nickname is not an identity. And not having any name or business address or even country anywhere on the website or invoice just screams SCAM. I should have looked more closely before ordering.

I think they once Reported GON for scamming but the South Korean police couldn't do anything about it since he wasn't registered as a company. It will be probably the same with Sprit.

[donkey]

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

Sorry but a nickname is not an identity. And not having any name or business address or even country anywhere on the website or invoice just screams SCAM. I should have looked more closely before ordering.

I meant business identity, SPRiT, and not his nickname.

[Blitzschnitzel]

I think they once Reported GON for scamming but the South Korean police couldn't do anything about it since he wasn't registered as a company. It will be probably the same with Sprit.

I have doubts. That would be the strangest legal system if they could only prosecute scammers if the scammers first did the lawful thing and registered a business.

So is SPRiT a scammer? If he is then he is a really stupid one because he is still standing by his identity instead of starting a new one. Think about what it takes to run a one-man international business and how ups and downs of personal life can disrupt its operations.

Sorry but a nickname is not an identity. And not having any name or business address or even country anywhere on the website or invoice just screams SCAM. I should have looked more closely before ordering.

I meant business identity, SPRiT, and not his nickname.

This is a business identity:

Google Ireland Limited
Gordon House, Barrow Street
Dublin 4
Irland
Tel: +353 1 543 1000
Fax: +353 1 686 5660
E-Mail: support-deutschland@google.com
Geschäftsführerinnen: Fionnuala Meehan, Elizabeth M. Cunningham
Google Ireland Limited ist eine nach irischem Recht gegründete und registrierte Gesellschaft. Registernummer: 368047.
Umsatzsteuer-ID-Nr.: IE6388047V

Address, contact, names of those in charge, registry number and tax number. Every respectable business even the smallest will have that somewhere on their website.