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Startrek: Picard
« on: Thu, 23 January 2020, 08:47:01 »
Captain Picard (Admiral) has finally returned to drive SciFi forward, paving the way for peaceful cohabitation with AI lifeforms. This is the real story of our era, above all the pettiness of human looped trivialities.

AI is humanity's greatest work and Tp4 is grateful that our New-Biblical inscription is helmed by the Great Stewart.


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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 January 2020, 20:54:21 »


Only 1 more day till Episode 2..... !!

"Super motivational speech by the Captain"


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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 January 2020, 21:34:12 »
Watched the first episode twice, will watch once more before the second episode airs!  :thumb:

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 January 2020, 22:01:07 »
Watched the first episode twice, will watch once more before the second episode airs!  :thumb:

Havn' had the time, I need to go through the series and movies myself.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 01:57:56 »
I was good until about the end, then i looked into it and saw it was based on the new reboots...

I'm going to give it a chance, but the end just really threw me.
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 06:37:59 »
Watched the first episode twice, will watch once more before the second episode airs!  :thumb:

Havn' had the time, I need to go through the series and movies myself.


I think adequate prep is season 7 of TNG, Nemesis, and Star Trek (2009)

It's possible some voyager prep will be necessary in the coming episodes, I would guess that the final episode of Voyager would be minimally enough...

If I was coming from nowhere, I'm not sure how I would feel about the show.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 06:40:07 »
I was good until about the end, then i looked into it and saw it was based on the new reboots...

I'm going to give it a chance, but the end just really threw me.

It seems they're using the plot hinted at/glanced over in the 2009 reboot movie, but other than the mentioned events that occur in the far distant future (relative to the reboots themselves), I'm not sure how relevant they'll actually be.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 07:30:00 »

and saw it was based on the new reboots


I saw the 2009 reboot when it came out and didn't like it. (disclaimer - I was in high school at the time of TOS so I am deeply prejudiced, of course)

My kids were adolescents at the time so we "got the DVD" and after a few more viewings really started to grow on me. I didn't like the others nearly as much - Sherlock as Khan was way out of line.

All of the movies have taken themselves far too seriously (except probably the whale one) and the campiness of the originals was a significant part of their charm.

I am looking forward to Picard.
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 07:45:13 »
and saw it was based on the new reboots
All of the movies have taken themselves far too seriously (except probably the whale one)

The Voyage Home was a cinematographic masterpiece. I fully admit to having seen that film more times than any of the others combined.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 09:00:47 »
I think adequate prep is season 7 of TNG, Nemesis, and Star Trek (2009)

It's possible some voyager prep will be necessary in the coming episodes, I would guess that the final episode of Voyager would be minimally enough...

If I was coming from nowhere, I'm not sure how I would feel about the show.

I'm mainly just glad this show has material for the Core fandom. The show is very much for us.

In terms of prep, S7 and some Voyager establishes backstory, buh... it's not absolutely necessary, the -Picard- current gen layout seems standalone enough, even if you've never seen it, the basic structure is not complicated.  But the OG details are there for OG fans. Based on 1 episode alone, it may be premature to claim all out success.

Overall, deep down , I am certain,   I FEEL IT.   Thursdays, are Captain Picard Days. I woke up this morning Brimming with Hope, for Startrek and for Humanity.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 11:11:43 »
Episode 2 is so gud''...






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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 14:55:16 »
Watching episode 2 as soon as I get off work  :thumb:


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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 30 January 2020, 15:44:11 »
Episode 2 is so gud''...

Yes! Just watched. Really need more...

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 19:27:27 »
Some theories: [Spoiler warning]

Zhat Vash romulan secret cabal, is one of the original creator/ co-creator of Borg tech

 - This lead to their stance to cease AI / synth utility in romulan society
 - They're not really BAD-Guys,  they're zealots.

The androids which caused the Utopia Planitia Shipyard xplosion were manipulated BY the Zhat Vash to create a reason trigger the ban on synths in The Federation.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 20:33:13 »
Some theories: [Spoiler warning]


There are multiple creation theories depending on which canon you pay attention too but none tie them to Romulans, who are actually an offshoot of Vulkans.
Then again, that could change at any moment.


Star Trek history/franchise/canon is a complete disaster not to be solved any time soon, the studio that owns the TNG franchise and timeline* owns almost nothing else (they sold it). Not only did they split the franchise, the studios never bothered to cultivate the story, it was trash sci-fi to be twisted and modded how they saw fit and as cheaply as possible (a lot of early TNG scripts were old unused and unwanted TOS plots, hence garbage).

As much as I like Star trek, it's a terrible franchise, always has been. Say what you will about Lucas or Disney, at least you have one group steering the ship instead of whoever made the best pitch for a new series they can slap the name on.

By the way, why not just put spoiler warning in the threat title... Though to be fair, if you click on a thread about a show that should be common knowledge.


*This is why Picard can't follow TNG canon.
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:15:18 »
As much as I like Star trek, it's a terrible franchise, always has been. Say what you will about Lucas or Disney, at least you have one group steering the ship instead of whoever made the best pitch for a new series they can slap the name on.

By the way, why not just put spoiler warning in the threat title... Though to be fair, if you click on a thread about a show that should be common knowledge.

*This is why Picard can't follow TNG canon.


Mmm... Trek is much larger than any other series.  So, it's not quite possible to reign in every detail / plot over the course of so many years, with so many different producers/ writers.

Overall, I'd say TNG is probably the best-planned of all the big-Trek iterations.

The traditional trek-format also never prioritized cohesion, because they were never pressured to string people along for several episodes, that drag on forever.

That's no longer the case in Modern Television, Buhhhhhh... At least THUS FAR,  I am happy to be dancing the strings of Trek-Picard.

Vs, -the Trek series which does not exist-, the mushroom particles are just boring and pointless. I was bored after 2 episodes.


I also don't quite like the use of F-words,  now, I'm not against cursing, I just feel in both -the Trek series which does not exist- and Trek-Picard they were not well placed and came from the wrong actors.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 14:27:50 »


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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 01 February 2020, 17:44:49 »
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Re: Startrek: Picard
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 06 February 2020, 22:55:22 »
Episode 3, plot thickens.


Humanity needs to Freeze Sir Patrick Stewart,  and only unfreeze him when the Earth is in trouble.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 14 February 2020, 10:19:35 »
Episode 4,  Man, they're really giving everything the fan wants, 100%..

got 0 complaints, 0.. es perfecto

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 02:01:16 »
Very glad they're appropriating good roles for vanilla looking actresses these days.

Up until recently, pretty much only traditionally handsome women got on the main roster.

This will certainly go a long way towards making the characters more relatable to female watchers.

There's no shortage of plain doughy looking audience-relatable men in sci-fi.

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 03:22:11 »
Starting to really get a Firefly vibe from the show (Firefly meets Star trek?).

Did a search, seems I'm not the only one.
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 06:55:32 »
Starting to really get a Firefly vibe from the show (Firefly meets Star trek?).

Did a search, seems I'm not the only one.

I can see that emerging as well.

For what it's worth, I personally think they should stick to being in space. I think he final ~5 minutes of episode 4 demonstrate that pretty well.

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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 10:44:46 »
Starting to really get a Firefly vibe from the show (Firefly meets Star trek?).

Did a search, seems I'm not the only one.

I can see that emerging as well.

For what it's worth, I personally think they should stick to being in space. I think he final ~5 minutes of episode 4 demonstrate that pretty well.

IDK if i see Firefly..

Firefly is neater and episodically packed.

STPic is still using the long movie format.

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 17:29:21 »
I didn't see it in the show so much, but watch ep. 3 of The Ready Room, that was where I noticed it.

There's several visuals that look ripped straight out of Firefly, from ship internal and external shots to the crew itself on the bridge. Even the way the cast talks about it sounds similar.
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Re: Startrek: Picard
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 17:32:17 »
I'm sure the visual similarities you see are there, but, can't say I'm feeling Firefly.

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 17 February 2020, 17:59:43 »
I'm sure the visual similarities you see are there, but, can't say I'm feeling Firefly.
It wasn't there in the earlier episodes, but I think it's becoming more and more prevalent as time goes on.
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