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@ Cyberpunk
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Re: 3 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 17:13:34 »
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Re: 3 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 17:35:43 »
Pre-loaded it this morning.
Thinking about taking Thursday and Friday off...

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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 09:09:33 »
Predictions  mega success / mega flop ??


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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 18:27:01 »
Seems it's super buggy with a 60gb day 0 patch inbound.

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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 19:02:03 »
It will be a mega success (even pre order with no one seeing any gameplay or playing it it has sold bananas) and reviewers will suck the game and CDPR's **** for the first month, then someone brave will make a video titled "Why Cyberpunk is not a good game" or some **** and then everyone will go "Oh yeah same, I hated the game the entire time too hurr durr" and it will wind up with a lukewarm postmortem like a Fallout 4 or Bioshock Infinite.

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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 22:12:57 »
I'm nervous, what if it's not gud',  it would make me very upset, queue depression spiral.

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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 22:29:03 »
Seems it's super buggy with a 60gb day 0 patch inbound.

When the glitches are both visual flavor and central to the gameplay experience :llama:

I've settled into simply placing my expectations low so hopefully my impressions can only get better, though I'll be waiting until after release to see the state of bugs.

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Re: 2 more days till Cyberpunk
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 22:44:00 »
When the glitches are both visual flavor and central to the gameplay experience :llama:

I've settled into simply placing my expectations low so hopefully my impressions can only get better, though I'll be waiting until after release to see the state of bugs.

Here's hoping the in game girlfriend experience is top notch. kekekeke...


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Re: 7 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 11:55:52 »
Never heard if it so just looked it up, looks like a Japanese version of GTA.  I would need a new hard drive to see if/how it runs on my PC
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Re: 7 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 12:34:50 »
9.7GB day-0 patch downloaded  :thumb:
tick-tock.  tick-tock.  tick-tock.


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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 18:58:14 »
well?

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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 19:05:37 »
well?

teh graphix top notch.. kind of a slow start. it's more like, borderlands 3 + sleeping dogs so far.

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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 23:11:55 »
Feels a tad bit unfocused, but maybe that's just the too many options seeping through.

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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 08:13:30 »
It'sssss..... exactly like borderlands 3 + sleepingdoges. /confirmed

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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 08:37:40 »
It'sssss..... exactly like borderlands 3 + sleepingdoges. /confirmed

So not like the Witcher 3 in a cyberpunk setting? Think I'll wait for it to go on sale if that is the case........

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Re: 2 more HOURS till Cyberpunk
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 08:46:52 »
It'sssss..... exactly like borderlands 3 + sleepingdoges. /confirmed
from what i understand bl3 is the fastest paced borderlands... although i hate what they did with the story in the commander lilth DLC sooo never even though about playing it
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 09:51:39 »
It sure is pretty, but it needs a beast of a machine to run with all the ray traced goodies.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 09:55:37 »
It sure is pretty, but it needs a beast of a machine to run with all the ray traced goodies.

Yea if you look at the ps5 version vs the pc version, no contest, it's like 2 completely different games.

They said they were going to -remaster- the game for ps5/x1x later in the year though, for free.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 11:26:35 »
/headscratch.   3090 is a requirement @ 1080p (Raytr) .....  it's just not the same otherwise.

But overall, if this is where things are headed.. we need something at least 10x-15x what the 3090 is putting out for 4K 120hz.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 11:47:03 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 12:34:45 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.

bet they didn't advertise that it requires 3090 to get full quality @ 1080p

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 14:23:35 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.

bet they didn't advertise that it requires 3090 to get full quality @ 1080p


You're right, they did have the sense to list PC as the last option though.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 14:32:14 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.

bet they didn't advertise that it requires 3090 to get full quality @ 1080p


You're right, they did have the sense to list PC as the last option though.


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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 14:39:14 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.

I am very curious what their advertising and marketing budget was because they really saturated the ad market. CDPR recently went public too, so with people anticipating Cyberpunk they must've done quite well. Odd since the company has only had one commercial success (Witcher 3, the other games never sold well)

Game companies like this are odd to me. People going rabid for a studio that puts all their eggs into a single basket, like RIOT.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 00:49:54 »
This game must have a huge budget, it was advertised on the radio while I was at work.  Never heard a video game ad in the 2.5 years before.

I am very curious what their advertising and marketing budget was because they really saturated the ad market. CDPR recently went public too, so with people anticipating Cyberpunk they must've done quite well. Odd since the company has only had one commercial success (Witcher 3, the other games never sold well)

Game companies like this are odd to me. People going rabid for a studio that puts all their eggs into a single basket, like RIOT.
cdpr is more like Valve now than riot, they do own gog, so games are a much smaller egg :) joking aside although the other witcher games were not AAA busting sales they were not failures either, so no cdpr is not putting all its eggs in one basket, and riot isn't anymore either, with merch, tabletop games and extended universe videogames.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 06:35:35 »
I was hoping for this to be Witcher 3 in the future kinda game.
Not some stupid shooter game. I hope it won't end up like crappy GTA series.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 06:40:58 »
The game is a tad hard on hardware though, my 3900X/16GB  RAM/RX 6800 can manage my monitor res of 3840x1080 at High Preset, framerate's between 40fps to 70fps. Surprisingly, even when framerate drops to 40's, it was smooth with no stutter or judder.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 08:01:57 »
The game is a tad hard on hardware though, my 3900X/16GB  RAM/RX 6800 can manage my monitor res of 3840x1080 at High Preset, framerate's between 40fps to 70fps. Surprisingly, even when framerate drops to 40's, it was smooth with no stutter or judder.

It's those RT calls that tank frames.  Hopefully ATI gets on optimizations with their fine-wine.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 15:09:31 »
I love that a widespread bug is character's ****s noclipping through their pants while playing

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 15:55:17 »
****clipping aside, im really bummed about the direction of the game in the end.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 19:05:08 »
The bugs are acceptable imho, this type of large open world game is always going to be buggy. Especially since this company has a history of buggy games.

The only thing I thought was a bit lacking is AI behavior. It should be a bit more nuanced than it is.

Performance on consoles, yea that's a bit misleading.

Sigh... performance in general, well.. given that we're in the pre-order hysteria. let's see how the patching goes.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 06:19:44 »
I love that a widespread bug is character's ****s noclipping through their pants while playing

Now I understand the 18 rating :p
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 06:49:48 »
Im not playing the game because

1- me no afford vidya game

2- i am not interested

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 17:42:28 »
I keep getting weirded out by Vaporwave and Cyberpunk being like the coolest thing ever for the last 5 years. For the 20 years before that it was literally the nerdiest and most lame thing ever. I recall some chunky dude being a huge meme on the internet in the early days of Kickstarter. He had a very over the top pledge video about his ambitious cyberpunk card game. He'd goggles, a big hat and everybody thought it was hilarious.

Not to mention all those awful 300 dollar cyberpunk keyboards nobody in their right mind would ever want to type on.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 18:00:12 »
I keep getting weirded out by Vaporwave and Cyberpunk being like the coolest thing ever for the last 5 years. For the 20 years before that it was literally the nerdiest and most lame thing ever. I recall some chunky dude being a huge meme on the internet in the early days of Kickstarter. He had a very over the top pledge video about his ambitious cyberpunk card game. He'd goggles, a big hat and everybody thought it was hilarious.

Not to mention all those awful 300 dollar cyberpunk keyboards nobody in their right mind would ever want to type on.

societal decay perhaps.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 18:03:34 »
Let's not forget Cyberpunk killed Billy Idols career and he was untouchable.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 18:27:50 »
The bugs are acceptable imho, this type of large open world game is always going to be buggy. Especially since this company has a history of buggy games.

The only thing I thought was a bit lacking is AI behavior. It should be a bit more nuanced than it is.

Performance on consoles, yea that's a bit misleading.

Sigh... performance in general, well.. given that we're in the pre-order hysteria. let's see how the patching goes.


Yeah this is my take on it.
You can optimize given time.
You can fix bugs, and bugs aren't that big a deal as long as the game is playable.
You cant really fix all the aspects that were expected and left out or removed imo.

By the time you do, most people will have moved on anyways.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 11:59:14 »

Not to mention all those awful 300 dollar cyberpunk keyboards nobody in their right mind would ever want to type on.

Hey, don't tell reddit.

On another note, I like the game. It's fun and it's engrossing. Doing tolerably well on my absurd system. This **** is what drives people to consoles. 58 FPS on a powerhouse of a PC? Come on.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 13:36:47 »
I'm getting this as gift for Christmas, but will immediately sell the steam code - have no power to run it in 4K on my PC anyway.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 14:13:12 »
I'm getting this as gift for Christmas, but will immediately sell the steam code - have no power to run it in 4K on my PC anyway.

Nobody can run native 4k, not even 3090.

You can play it in pretty gud' 3070 1080p or 1440p with the rtx stuff turned on + DLSS.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:10:32 »
I'm getting this as gift for Christmas, but will immediately sell the steam code - have no power to run it in 4K on my PC anyway.

Nobody can run native 4k, not even 3090.

You can play it in pretty gud' 3070 1080p or 1440p with the rtx stuff turned on + DLSS.


Yes, but lowering resolution on 4K monitor makes the image look iffy... like not 100% sharp.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:14:45 »
Yes, but lowering resolution on 4K monitor makes the image look iffy... like not 100% sharp.


at 3 feet it's not that bad. DLSS has sharpening though, so it looks decently sharp.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 19:49:55 »
On another note, I like the game. It's fun and it's engrossing. Doing tolerably well on my absurd system. This **** is what drives people to consoles. 58 FPS on a powerhouse of a PC? Come on.

PS4 is hitting 15 FPS at 720p at various points in the game and you can't do anything about it unlike the PC version.

Consoles not having these problems are what PC people tell themselves when things break, doesn't make it true.
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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 19:56:47 »
I'm getting this as gift for Christmas, but will immediately sell the steam code - have no power to run it in 4K on my PC anyway.

Nobody can run native 4k, not even 3090.

You can play it in pretty gud' 3070 1080p or 1440p with the rtx stuff turned on + DLSS.


Yes, but lowering resolution on 4K monitor makes the image look iffy... like not 100% sharp.

integer scaling helps with that. been playing at 1080p on a 4K monitor with integer scaling and it looks great.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 21:53:11 »
integer scaling helps with that. been playing at 1080p on a 4K monitor with integer scaling and it looks great.

Integer scaling will look sharper for some things, but the aliasing can harm the look of certain textures.

Sharper isn't always better. It depends on the content of the game.

But Overall, at the right distance, 1080p and 1440p are usually more than enough for games.  Games don't really have the asset fidelity to justify 4K 1:1 if the cost is choppy framerates.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 22:50:32 »
I'm getting this as gift for Christmas, but will immediately sell the steam code - have no power to run it in 4K on my PC anyway.

Nobody can run native 4k, not even 3090.

You can play it in pretty gud' 3070 1080p or 1440p with the rtx stuff turned on + DLSS.


Yes, but lowering resolution on 4K monitor makes the image look iffy... like not 100% sharp.

I think you'll find that using high quality DLSS on a game like this, where it's a bit less actiony, the DLSS will do good enough for you to not notice. But if you want to tell it, hey no problem. Different strokes for different folks as they say.

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Re: @ Cyberpunk
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 14 December 2020, 13:48:15 »
On a Ryzen 3900 + 2080ti
With RTX on and DLSS OFF at 3440x1440 = 15-20 fps.
With RTX on and DLSS ON Performance at 3440x1440 = 50-60 fps.

Empirically, with RTX and DLSS Off the game is pretty much a slideshow (25 fps) at 3440 at max settings so it's not just RTX which is slowing things down.
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