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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 21 November 2022, 01:18:46 »
Rule by mob, who had that on their Twitter BINGO card?
That will totally allay any concern advertisers have... /s


I can't confirm anything below this as it came in through the grapevine (or much of anything said in this entire thread to be honest) so take it with a grain of salt...
Apparently Tesla people were brought in to help and decide who to keep and who to fire and instead of using the internal chat system, where everyone could see what was said (internal Twitter system), and since they couldn't use MS Teams like at Tesla they turned to Slack and being unfamiliar with it they unknowingly left the chat open to the public and it was found. This contained all the sh*t talking and making plans to fire people legal or not and apparently screen grabs were taken.

Also, look at the picture of Musk talking about the 1AM push... Notice anything? No, not that they're unhappy, of course they aren't. It was pointed out that most are the H1B visa workers who can't quit without being deported. That's most of the workforce now.  Oh and about those ads, all finance sectors have left, ad revenue, even payroll has quit. So even if you stay, you may not get paid on time.

Forget the chaos (which is high), forget the ad revenue (which is low), the lawsuits may be the thing that ultimately dooms Twitter.


I cannot wait for the Amazon or Netflicks Twitter docu-drama when it eventually drops, that is going to be flat out amazing, you couldn't make this up if you tried. 
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 21 November 2022, 08:23:10 »
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 21 November 2022, 14:09:00 »
my personal opinion is that musk is the most useless ceo. he just posts memes or plays with twitter, without doing anything well or useful. twitter should just burn and die already, with what elon does to it.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 21 November 2022, 16:34:00 »
Deleted my account today.   :p

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 02 December 2022, 12:44:38 »
Woo-hoo !

Here was something that I knew was "in the works" but did not expect to see happen any time soon :

https://www.fec.gov/updates/fec-approves-final-rule-on-internet-communication-disclaimers-two-notices-of-proposed-rulemaking-and-advisory-opinion/

TL;DR - The new rule requires a clear and conspicuous disclaimer to appear on certain public communications placed for a fee on another person’s website, digital device, application, or advertising platform.
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So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 14 December 2022, 10:28:18 »
This is getting to be a seriously Trump-esque maneuver.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html

And is Musk too stupid to know that Miami will be under water in his lifetime?

https://gimenez.house.gov/press-releases?ID=C1279EDE-476F-4937-BB17-F1CA2187ADBB
« Last Edit: Wed, 14 December 2022, 10:33:02 by fohat.digs »
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
- Jimmy Carter 2015

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 14 December 2022, 12:48:56 »
And is Musk too stupid to know that Miami will be under water in his lifetime?
It already floods downtown during king tide, a good tidal surge from a nearby hurricane will destroy it. They've gotten extremely lucky so far.


Summary for those who didn't bother to click or read other articles:
Musk is now denying severance pay for many people, sometimes not even giving a reason(particularly for execs), others have yet to even receive the paperwork and they're talking about not paying it regardless (I guess it helps to have an HR team to handle this but he lost them as well).

This will trigger lawsuits, but he let go many of the lawyers who would typically handle this sort of thing (subject of the above linked article).

Twitter also hasn't paid rent in months, apparently he hopes to renegotiate the rent.  HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ever wonder why you see so many business suites or strip malls go unrented? It's because real estate people can carry over losses year to year, they have no incentive to bargain. It's in their best interest to let a properly go unrented than negotiate a better price. Trump carried losses for almost 20 years.

Also, with how Musk has handled this, how well do you think Twitter will do when it tries to recruit new talent?


Side note,
Tesla stock has dropped over 25% in a little over a month (not sure about SpaceX). It's estimated he's no longer the richest person.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 16 December 2022, 18:52:07 »
not mine, but so accurate

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 16 December 2022, 21:03:57 »
Idk if it's as complicated as all that,  you can tell reddit is hell bent on the fud, but tbh, I don't think any large number real platform users actually care one way or the other. The news cycle makes it seem more lively than it is.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 22 December 2022, 10:22:25 »
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 30 December 2022, 12:31:55 »
2022-12-30 from D. Butch:

"Twitter employees were not authorized to discuss the subject, although the article says some employees were worried that shutdowns would cause problems (like people having trouble with access and login, maybe?).  It appears that saving money is now a critical goal and Musk doesn’t care who or what he tramples in the process.

Twitter has stopped paying rent on their Seattle office, leading them to face eviction, has stopped paying millions of dollars in rent and services, etc.  (I like the part about employees having to bring their own toilet paper.)  He’s laid off or fired nearly 75% of the companies employees since completing the purchase in October.  With no communications department left, nobody was available for comment.  If they’ve also gotten rid of most of sales staff, I suspect even advertisers who still WANT to place ads on Twitter will have problems (and I’ve seen other articles indicating that there are problems getting hold of anyone at Twitter sales).

I’d expect ad sales revenue to really crater in the new year.  We’ll get a chance to see how well the $8 blue check works (or bounces).

Further on, the article discusses orders to managers (the few remaining, I suppose) to go to “zero based budgeting” and delay paying vendors (even more?) while trying to negotiate lower prices.  A specific mention was made of skipping payments to KPMG — which has been working with the FTC on “compliance issues”.  This could get interesting if the FTC gets PO’d.

Cuts in New York and in the San Francisco HQ office are also mentioned, along with Twitter having to hire people to replace terminated employees — but they only get 90 minutes of training and orientation, compared to three days.  If they are going into technical support, I foresee some glorious data center disaster articles coming out in El Reg (the Register) in coming weeks."

Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 31 December 2022, 03:12:44 »
Tesla is worth HALF what it was when he signed the papers for Twitter.

Something you should note is when short sellers and hedge funds find a company on a downward slide they LOOOVE to dogpile on it and it becomes extremely hard to recover.
This is what killed ToysRus and was happening  to AMC and Gamestop before WallStreetbets jumped in to save them. Don't count on them to come to Tesla's rescue.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 31 December 2022, 09:02:00 »

Don't count on them to come to Tesla's rescue.


While I have never really understood or engaged with "social media" since, as an old man who grew up in a time when privacy had importance practically rising to the level of an inalienable right, it always just seemed completely creepy and weird to have a computer program that basically allowed you be an exhibitionist to the world. So if Twitter simply went away I would be indifferent to it, and maybe even feel comfort that it was gone from the planet.

That said, while Twitter seems like a giant nothingburger to me, a carmaker with massive physical manufacturing, factories, engineering staff, sales and service facilities, etc, etc, should continue in some form even if it is not actually "too big to fail" ....

So are you suggesting that Tesla might churn through a huge upheaval and end up still functioning but owned and operated by someone else?
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 31 December 2022, 11:09:38 »
Tesla has been heading towards upheaval over this since he bought Twitter if only because Musk pretty much walked away from Tesla to focus on Twitter and now the SEC is threatening them, so yeah, that upheaval is possibly already in the works. Frankly, with a 50% drop in less than 2 months, wouldn't you be screaming if that consisted of a huge chunk of your portfolio and the CEO was off arguing with the world on Twitter instead of doing his job?

Would they still end up functional?
You'd like to think so but they have assets, valuable assets that can be sold off and all it takes is someone to do the same thing Musk did to Twitter (a full buyout) and then call in someone like Mitt Romney to rip it apart and sell off the assets, again, this was what happened to ToysRus. You don't want your assets to be worth more than the company is valued at.  Granted, Tesla is a long way from that point (or so you would think based on value) but with stock drops like this, hedge funds will pile on and make it harder and harder for them to get capital to operate with and then that long slide begins. Worse, Tesla has a lot of important assetts others would love to get their hands on, it's not like Twitter where it's a bunch of leased servers or soon to be outdated server tech. Twitter could pack up and leave and few would notice, including the few remaining employees at this point so no one's going to buy them out like Musk did. There was a reason the board cheered and literally popped champagne when Musk made his offer, they knew it was stupid and they were getting a bailout. Beyond what it does, Twitter has very little. Servers age, they lease property... What's there to buy? Influence, influence wanes.

As for Tesla's assetts...
The charging network is a big plus to someone who wants it, it's big, it's fast..
China could use the technology, plus they already have many of the metals needed to build them. The Tesla name would offer a lot in the way of spreading Chinese cars.
Apple and Uber both need the skills and facilities to make a car.
And then you have every other major car and big rig manufacturer... This would be a boost in their electric and self driving portfolio of patents and skilled workers, giving them a leg up on pretty much all other companies on these fronts.

And any of these could work together to buy then out and split things up.
And it's not just the car industry to watch out for... I could see cell phone carriers or convenience stores going after the charging network, set them up with automated mini stores like Amazon stores. Put super chargers in front of every AMC movie theater... Anyone charging has time on their hands and need something to do so it's a captive audience with nothing to do.


Tesla is heading into a dangerous place.
Once it crosses that value vs assets line, or their ability to borrow ends, all bets are off on their future and they are very much NOT too big to fail. Worse, there's a LOT of hate towards Tesla from the conservative side of our gov. (and population) so even they may be reluctant to help keep them afloat.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 06 January 2023, 15:28:31 »
I have always been dismayed that "Freedom of Speech" inevitably includes the freedom to lie - with impunity.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-05/laid-off-twitter-workers-remain-in-limbo-over-severance-pay?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 07 January 2023, 11:41:26 »
Tesla stock is now 1/3rd of what it was at acquisition of Twitter.
Mar 20 2022 $330
Sept 20 2022: $330
Jan 6 2023: $113 (at closing and hit a low of $101)

It hasn't been this low since July 2020 when it started climbing at an insane rate.



Also a single man spent $50B and lost another $170B in stock valuation making a pointless purchase but it's those pesky kids trading fake coins (crypto) and pictures (nft) that are crashing the economy!
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 07 January 2023, 16:54:54 »
It only went to that insane level because Musk can't manage to tell the truth if his life was on the line.

No lies and Tesla would have been bankrupt in 2017.


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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #67 on: Wed, 11 January 2023, 12:10:59 »
It only went to that insane level because Musk can't manage to tell the truth if his life was on the line.

No lies and Tesla would have been bankrupt in 2017.

He’s always had a huge cult following. Which is falling apart
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #68 on: Wed, 15 February 2023, 04:14:22 »
I mean, with such few ppl left, i assume its chaos already!! :p :p

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Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 08 May 2023, 18:23:43 »
It only went to that insane level because Musk can't manage to tell the truth if his life was on the line.

No lies and Tesla would have been bankrupt in 2017.

He’s always had a huge cult following. Which is falling apart

Musk had great marketers who created the perception that he was a super-genius out to save the world, the next tony stark, which cultivated the audience he has, but even the best marketers can't hide the truth forever, that musk is an egotistical, greedy man child who makes terrible decisions constantly.

It only went to that insane level because Musk can't manage to tell the truth if his life was on the line.

No lies and Tesla would have been bankrupt in 2017.



I mean Tesla should have been bankrupted earlier than that, the only reason why Tesla is here is due to selling carbon credit (I think that's what it's called) to other companies and getting subsidies from the government

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 08 May 2023, 22:36:19 »
I mean Tesla should have been bankrupted earlier than that, the only reason why Tesla is here is due to selling carbon credit (I think that's what it's called) to other companies and getting subsidies from the government

And pumping and dumping Doge coin to his followers.


As for the super villain thing...
He wants his lair on Mars (in a cave or volcano), so yeah, not far from reality.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 09 May 2023, 08:24:01 »

As for the super villain thing...


The take away for me was that he intends to put 42,000 satellites in low Earth orbit, and that the resulting garbage field could make it almost impossible to launch anything else through it for centuries ....
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 17:49:47 »
Yeah Baby! Yeah!

Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:01:09 »
Yeah Baby! Yeah!

what is this? did he put starlink with twitter?

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:12:52 »
and I still never had, or intend on making, a Twitter account... sorry, an X account

It is like every move Elon makes with that company it becomes less and less appealing. There was a time when I was seriously considering getting on social media, then Trump happened and that ruined a good portion, then it became weaponized, then privatized, now I could not be less into the idea of sharing my life with strangers.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:30:40 »
Wait is twitter rebranding to "X"? if so then that's the dumbest name change ever, the only thing twitter has at this point was the unique branding and now that's all gone.

I wish I could speak to elon musk to just tell him how stupid he is, because this is a new low of stupidity.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:39:11 »

I could not be less into the idea of sharing my life with strangers.


The whole thing (ie "social media") always seemed to be contrary to any fundamental concept of privacy or humilty.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 18:56:12 »

I could not be less into the idea of sharing my life with strangers.


The whole thing (ie "social media") always seemed to be contrary to any fundamental concept of privacy or humilty.

Yeah but there are uses for Businesses and people to promote things.

Also this X change has been a disaster, like there will be lawsuits and has conflicts with twitter japan (which twitter is massive there)

I heard a lot of this stuff from Hasanabi, if you don't know too much I would recommend watching them because they compile everything decently well.


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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 19:50:16 »

lawsuits and has conflicts


Looking forward to copyrighting and trademarking a letter of the alphabet ....
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #80 on: Mon, 24 July 2023, 19:53:43 »

lawsuits and has conflicts


Looking forward to copyrighting and trademarking a letter of the alphabet ....

It's already happened, I believe Microsoft owns the rights to x (related to xbox) and a band in japan owns the X trademark as well, which is why the name change hasn't occurred in Japan, It's so strange that common words like sky and even letters like X can be trademarked, but that's capitalism I guess...

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #81 on: Tue, 25 July 2023, 09:38:16 »
With this X rebranding, hasn't he already?

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 25 July 2023, 09:52:21 »
I've seen lots of references to Monty Python's "Dead Parrot" sketch lately ...

The platform with the blue bird: Twitter, is now an X-platform.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 04 August 2023, 06:21:04 »
I like the idea of a place to spout random brain salad. Everyone comes up with a few worthy sayings in their lives, some more than others
Twitter started to fail once it became a platform for changing ideas, rather than sharing them.

Yeah that was probably me exaggerating a bit too much. Despite how much the platform is a mess (even back in "the good old days") it was and kinda still is an extremely important source of news as it was the fastest way to hear about things and that journalists could use it to build off for their own stories, and for people to self promote what they want. It's great at that and pretty much only that.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 04 August 2023, 07:37:35 »

an extremely important source of news as it was the fastest way to hear about things

journalists could use it to build off


It has always boggled my mind (buggered my mind?) to think that people would use social media as a "news source" ....

I guess what you are saying is that you can dip into the sewer at any time of day or night and pull up some fertilizer.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #85 on: Wed, 20 September 2023, 22:13:15 »
Well... Elon is considering putting up a paywall for twitter. I don't think there has been a single time where a business has had more users/customers by making something that was once free behind a paywall.

If he actually goes through with it the only users will be bots (or a significant portion), cause most people will not pay for twitter period, even back when it was pretty good.

Such a stupid idea

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 21 September 2023, 06:08:39 »
It doesn't matter, he killed it the moment he prioritized paid users, at that point it was already not just pay to play losing all relevance, making it all pay doesn't re-balance that problem it makes it worse.

He seems to (wrongly) think this will remove the bots.
Bots are already pay to play and this change means Twitter will probably spend even less effort fighting said bots, not that they ever prioritized it. Bots are really the only reason Twitter stayed relevant, no one really cares to hear what all these people are really saying on a day to day basis, do you honestly think most of these people say would gain any traction at all without an army of bots promoting them? It was always paid promotion, just most people didn't realize it.


Maybe Musk really does understand Twitter, he's just pulling back the curtain, the problem is that people come for the puppet show not the puppeteers.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 21 September 2023, 17:21:18 »
no one really cares to hear what all these people are really saying on a day to day basis, do you honestly think most of these people say would gain any traction at all without an army of bots promoting them? It was always paid promotion, just most people didn't realize it.


Maybe Musk really does understand Twitter, he's just pulling back the curtain, the problem is that people come for the puppet show not the puppeteers.

But this applies to the entirety of Social-Media.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 27 October 2023, 12:10:08 »
It has been a year now.

Subscriptions down 40%, revenue down 60%

Do any of you guys use it any more? Do people care?

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 27 October 2023, 20:44:10 »
I still do. It’s a popular social network in Malaysia.


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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #90 on: Sat, 28 October 2023, 03:57:48 »
I had quit twitter a while before Elon Musk bought it. Too toxic for my mental health. But new twitter would've definitely made quit because it's just filled with far right losers who are just openly racist, homophobic, transphobic all the time. It is funny to make fun of these people but I think their hate speech outweighs what I get out of making fun of these platforms.

People probably still care about twitter, it's still is one of the most popular platforms for news and journalism, and a lot of foreign markets really like twitter like Japan for example. Just not as much since the platform is infested by the worst people, at least in the english speaking areas of the platform.

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 28 October 2023, 09:15:16 »

one of the most popular platforms for news and journalism


This has always been my mental block.
I cannot even IMAGINE going to "social media" for ANY form of reliable information!
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 28 October 2023, 17:37:36 »
This has always been my mental block.
I cannot even IMAGINE going to "social media" for ANY form of reliable information!

Twitter was really good for getting immediate info, since journalists can just post their news without going through editorial or higher ups first. That's why it was a lot better than other platforms for news.

The one good thing that new twitter has done was community notes, which was basically an independent fact checking tool, which actually made misinformation pretty obvious. To the platforms determent, as people started to community notes advertisements like uber which was really funny. Which is why they started doing ads that cannot be blocked or reported (and also illegally not displaying that it is an ad on top of that)


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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 06 November 2023, 07:01:25 »
i honestly feel like its worse than 4chan by far at this point. 4chan has SOME moderation but this new X has literally none. illegal content is rampant, bots are everywhere you look, its an absolute ****show.
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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 06 November 2023, 14:32:56 »
i honestly feel like its worse than 4chan by far at this point. 4chan has SOME moderation but this new X has literally none. illegal content is rampant, bots are everywhere you look, its an absolute ****show.
It's like a slow motion car crash pile up. In a way it's fascinating as a projector on the worst tendencies of humanity, but also something we'd like to avoid seeing at all. William Gibson was so right in so many ways. So was Adam Curtis, more recently...

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 08 November 2023, 19:41:59 »
I have a fairly decent following on Twitter because of my Bitcoin education. The platform is certainly more chaotic post Elon's takeover. That isn't all bad though. Speech flows much more freely now and that is a good thing.

What I have been quite peeved about is the fact that long time followers/people I follow have been getting banned for some pretty weak content. While characters like Mario Nawfal are posting bodies in the back of pickup trucks from geopolitical events across the globe. There is a place for that kind of content... 4Chan. Twitter/X doesn't need to light my face up with that stuff when I am checking during lunch. At minimum make it so I have to walk into those areas of Twitter, don't bring them to me.

The quality of advertisements and content is borderline pornography post takeover.

I do look for quality news and releases. This is much more dificult post takeover aswell becuase of the 'For you' category.
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #96 on: Thu, 30 November 2023, 19:59:27 »
After claiming he’d never let advertisers “blackmail” him (and clearly not understanding that word’s meaning), he admitted, “What this advertising boycott is going to do is, it’s going to kill the company.”

Then he said he wouldn’t use his own money to bail out the company.

Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 01 December 2023, 02:50:25 »
“What this advertising boycott is going to do is, it’s going to kill the company.”
Do not threaten us with good time ;)

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Re: Will Elon Musk make Twitter more chaotic than it is already ?
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 02 December 2023, 11:21:04 »
After claiming he’d never let advertisers “blackmail” him (and clearly not understanding that word’s meaning), he admitted, “What this advertising boycott is going to do is, it’s going to kill the company.”

Then he said he wouldn’t use his own money to bail out the company.
The whole thing is worth a watch: