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Offline inlikeflynn

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Hello fellow Minnesota Geekhack people! A few of us have been chatting about getting together and figured we'd offer an invite to any other MN people lurking out there.

When: MAY 8TH 2012 6PM
Where: Maple Grove at 3 Squares Restaurant
3 Squares Restaurant
12690 Arbor Lakes Parkway
Maple Grove MN, 55369


Bring any sort of keyboards & keycaps that you have for others to try and of course show off any cool things u may have

People and keyboards/keycaps that are confirmed attending:
-inlikeflynn - FILCO browns, G80-1800 vintage black, Red Alert/Ragnarok/Cherry Beige DS's, GH keys if anyone needs them
-The_Ed - G81 mod
-Son of Gnome - filco with browns and custom key caps
-placebo guy - Topre 55G
-lysol (tentative)
-Phil21 (tentative)

Please post ideas/thoughts/discussions in this thread so that anyone in MN can bee involved in this meet up.
« Last Edit: Tue, 01 May 2012, 18:34:09 by inlikeflynn »
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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 07:25:28 »
I would be down for this but I think I'm gona in seattle that weekend.  I can bring boards with black red brown mx switches and white alps.
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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 08:40:09 »
Sounds interesting, I can't commit but I'm lazy so I'm doing this to subscribe.

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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 09:26:10 »
Quote from: whiteduck;576033
I would be down for this but I think I'm gona in seattle that weekend.  I can bring boards with black red brown mx switches and white alps.

hey, 5/8 or 5/9 are weekdays. Just talking about dates now anyways, we'll move to whatever works best for everyone
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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 15:20:13 »
I'm not sure I have much interesting to bring, but sounds fun.  I'm also in the NW 'Burbs, so no arguments on the location from me!

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 15:22:46 »
I'm near downtown Saint Paul, but I would make the drive(if I went), though I don't know about the legality of me in a bar...
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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 15:28:59 »
3 Squares across the street has good food and beer.

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 16:30:17 »
Quote from: Phil21;576286
I'm not sure I have much interesting to bring, but sounds fun.  I'm also in the NW 'Burbs, so no arguments on the location from me!
Don't worry about that, should plenty of things to check out from others to help u decide on what other items you want to spend $$$ on :becky:

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I'm near downtown Saint Paul, but I would make the drive(if I went), though I don't know about the legality of me in a bar...
Both Claddagh's & 3Squares are also restaurants, so this wouldn't be an issue

Quote from: shawn o;576290
3 Squares across the street has good food and beer.
yea that place is good as well. Only mentioned Claddagh's as i've had other engineer/geek gatherings there and they just hide us in the back. Its also louder there so won't have nobody complain about our damm clicky keyboards
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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 16:30:23 »
If any of you got a cheap/old laptop, you guys could bring it to test run the keyboards. Definitely hang on to your keyboards and know where they are at all time especially if you plan on bringing multiple; we need to come up with some sort of a system to minimize theft.

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 16:57:44 »
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If any of you got a cheap/old laptop, you guys could bring it to test run the keyboards. Definitely hang on to your keyboards and know where they are at all time especially if you plan on bringing multiple; we need to come up with some sort of a system to minimize theft.

Are keyboards common targets of theft in suburban Minnesota?

I suppose the keyboard thieves now know where we are planning to meet, and perhaps will try to infiltrate us!

I think the threat is mostly from within - and all of us will be coming armed with deadly weapons we can beat you with. :)

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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 17:12:59 »
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Are keyboards common targets of theft in suburban Minnesota?

I suppose the keyboard thieves now know where we are planning to meet, and perhaps will try to infiltrate us!

I think the threat is mostly from within - and all of us will be coming armed with deadly weapons we can beat you with. :)

Extremely common in suburban Minnesota. LOL I don't know, I'm not from Minnesota but then again, I don't think there even is such a thing as keyboard thefts. But this is the first public-announced GH meet so you guys be careful nonetheless.

Yes, biggest threat is from within. Use your keyboard as a weapon if you have to!

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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 17:17:13 »


Pack heat!:usa2:

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 18:01:59 »
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Use your keyboard as a weapon if you have to!
Model F for the win!

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 19:32:01 »
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picture is broken

Meh, I stole it anyways.

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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 19:46:23 »
What was the picture of?

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 19:48:12 »
someone racking a round into a shotgun, it was a gif.

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 21:48:25 »
Bringing keyboards that cost hundreds of dollars to a bar sounds dangerously stupid. All it takes is a spilt drink or a GHer with sticky fingers...
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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 22:39:46 »
Quote from: The_Ed;576609
Bringing keyboards that cost hundreds of dollars to a bar sounds dangerously stupid. All it takes is a spilt drink or a GHer with sticky fingers...

Yea, I don't get it either. Pretty much everyone who would go knows what every switch feels like, so that's out, and if you MUST see another keyboard, there's hundreds of pics posted.. So what exactly does the meet accomplish??

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« Reply #18 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:38:05 »
I've never felt topre, alps, or BS before. I agree that bringing mx boards would be superfluous though.
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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:41:04 »
Quote from: tp4tissue;576644
Yea, I don't get it either. Pretty much everyone who would go knows what every switch feels like, so that's out, and if you MUST see another keyboard, there's hundreds of pics posted.. So what exactly does the meet accomplish??


Not really true. I've only tried two switches and I'm sure I'm not alone. It'd be kind of pointless for someone who has tried nearly every switch to go; as for the rest of us, it's an opportunity to try out new switches without having to buy the keyboard.

Quote from: The_Ed;576682
I've never felt topre, alps, or BS before. I agree that bringing mx boards would be superfluous though.


I've never tried any of those either and I may be one of the few that has only tried one mx or so. Don't leave people like me out :hurt:
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« Reply #20 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:49:25 »
Don't cry... Here - have a tissue... There's 2 kinds even! You can try them both WITHOUT buying them!

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 16 April 2012, 23:51:40 »
Thanks, I needed that!

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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 00:03:49 »
I do come up to the Twin Cities on ocassion.  May is pretty crazy for me though.

I do meet up with GHers now and again when I travel.  I'm thinking it would be cool to have a special keycap I could give away to any GHers I meet in person.  :)

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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 00:04:56 »
Ooooh then I'll be there.  Just to meet iMav in person and get that special keycap. lol =P
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« Reply #24 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 00:49:06 »
Awww come to illinois. We have jailed Governors here!
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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 00:58:32 »
Quote from: iMav;576708
I do come up to the Twin Cities on ocassion.  May is pretty crazy for me though.

I do meet up with GHers now and again when I travel.  I'm thinking it would be cool to have a special keycap I could give away to any GHers I meet in person.  :)

Once people find out your house number they'll pound on your door day and night for one of those keycaps.

Edit: At that point you should consider investing in a keycap gun to shoot them in the cojones with the keycaps they so desire.

Edit2: These keycaps would make excellent projectiles. Windows key of death/testicular pain.

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« Last Edit: Tue, 17 April 2012, 01:11:58 by The_Ed »
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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 01:39:09 »
I googled iMav's signature and google says he can't spell.

En casa del herrero, cuchillo de palo
Should be
En casa de herrero, cuchillo de palo
which means
The shoemaker's son always goes barefoot.

Is iMav saying he's broke?
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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 12:03:38 »
I get up to the Twin Cities once in a while.  I'd like to try Reds and Blacks.  I have a Filco with Browns, a Leopold with Clears, and a few Buckling Spring boards.

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 13:16:25 »
if anyone can bring a board with Topre switches that would be awesome as I am considering one but can't afford to buy and not be happy with it.  Also mx clear switchs would be nifty to try.  I am in if this happens just to see what other people have this costly addiction...
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 17 April 2012, 17:01:52 »
I can bring my Topre 55g for the meetup.  Mostly want to get my monkey paws on more GH keycaps that inlikeflynn is overloaded with.
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 18 April 2012, 14:42:29 »
This would be interesting.  I have an MX Black keyboard and haven't been able to try any of the others, but very curious.

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 18 April 2012, 20:39:38 »
Really, so no one here is concerned about getting murdered by someone over the internet, who loves keyboards.??

Pretty ballzzy moves

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 12:55:37 »
Ok i'm back from vacation, so lets bring this to the top, answer some questions and get this thing planned out.

Quote from: iMav;576708
I do come up to the Twin Cities on ocassion.  May is pretty crazy for me though.

I do meet up with GHers now and again when I travel.  I'm thinking it would be cool to have a special keycap I could give away to any GHers I meet in person.  :)
Let us know next time you are in the Twin Cities iMav and i'm sure we would arrange another get together for the occasion

Quote from: Panoptic;577065
I get up to the Twin Cities once in a while.  I'd like to try Reds and Blacks.  I have a Filco with Browns, a Leopold with Clears, and a few Buckling Spring boards.
Looks like others have said they have Red's and i'll be bringing a Black board with as well. I haven't tried Clear's myself so that would be a nice one to try

Quote from: whiteduck;577116
if anyone can bring a board with Topre switches that would be awesome as I am considering one but can't afford to buy and not be happy with it.  Also mx clear switchs would be nifty to try.  I am in if this happens just to see what other people have this costly addiction...
Also interested to see what other crazy boards/caps people have

Quote from: placebo guy;577343
I can bring my Topre 55g for the meetup.  Mostly want to get my monkey paws on more GH keycaps that inlikeflynn is overloaded with.
Thanks, please do bring your Topre as well for us to check out. I'll have your GH keys and if anyone else needs some just let me know and i'll bring them with

Quote from: Seanmiz;578156
This would be interesting.  I have an MX Black keyboard and haven't been able to try any of the others, but very curious.
Please join us as it sounds like we'll have every type there to see

Looks like the rollback ate The_Ed's post, but i'm sure that G81 mod would be interesting. Any sort of mods are interesting to see. Go ahead and bring anything you are wanting to sell/trade. I'll bring along a couple items to sell/trade as well here before the classifieds. :embarassed: 1 of which has red text :embarassed:

so MN people, lets vote now on which night and location you want so this can happen. Please respond to this thread or PM me
Day/Time
- May 8th 6PM
- May 9th 6PM


Location:
- Claddagh's
- 4 Squares
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 15:59:11 »
I currently working on a clear Filco Majestouch tenkeyless and will bring it with if I can make it.

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:03:49 »
Quote from: iMav;576708
I do come up to the Twin Cities on ocassion.  May is pretty crazy for me though.

I do meet up with GHers now and again when I travel.  I'm thinking it would be cool to have a special keycap I could give away to any GHers I meet in person.  :)

This may warrant a trip to the states :bounce:
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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:33:43 »
can we go back to not this weekend (of the 5th and 6th) as I will be in Seattle!!!! during the week before or after please!!!!!
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« Reply #36 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 16:43:47 »
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can we go back to not this weekend (of the 5th and 6th) as I will be in Seattle!!!! during the week before or after please!!!!!

sorry, i'm a dumbass today and look at the calendar wrong. I will updated it to show the 8th or 9th like I intended
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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 23 April 2012, 17:39:39 »
You better bring some of those girlscout cookies we were promised a few months back! :tongue:
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 24 April 2012, 20:41:00 »
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You better bring some of those girlscout cookies we were promised a few months back! :tongue:

THIN MINTS!

If I do that g81 mod I wonder if anyone would buy it...

The 8th is when I could make it. I have school from 6-10PM on the 9th.
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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 24 April 2012, 22:52:35 »
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You better bring some of those girlscout cookies we were promised a few months back! :tongue:
yea :-( that idea went out the window quick when someone pointed out that wasn't allowed

Quote from: The_Ed;581324
If I do that g81 mod I wonder if anyone would buy it...

The 8th is when I could make it. I have school from 6-10PM on the 9th.

Are you talking about this G81 mod then I take it? http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12324

Since there hasn't been any other input between the 2 dates, i'm making the executive decision that this will happen on the 8th. I'll update the first post
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 24 April 2012, 23:07:38 »
That is exactly the mod I'm talking about. How much would one of those sell for (with and without keycaps)?
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 07:19:37 »
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That is exactly the mod I'm talking about. How much would one of those sell for (with and without keycaps)?
yea I have no idea how much someone might pay for that sort of mod, considering it becomes lighter than RED's keyboard, but its still MY switches...
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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 07:29:11 »
I'm guessing that it would have to be at least $100 for all the effort involved right? It's a brand new G81-8000HPBUS-2 and all I've done to it at this point is strip the doubleshots from it. I have 2 new 104 sets of lasered POM so I could put one of those sets on it.
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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 08:23:23 »
When I googled "4 squares maple grove" I got "3 squares"... Is this the place? It sounds a lot better than a pub to me. I vote for "3 squares".

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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 08:26:54 »
Yes, thats the place

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Minnesota GH Meet Up - MAY 8TH 2012 6PM at 3 Squares Restaurant
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 08:28:08 »
Damn, this is two weeks before I visit (on memorial day weekend). Oh well - maybe I'll catch you guys some other time. I still have to unload my epic stash of Model Ms...

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Offline inlikeflynn

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Minnesota GH Meet Up - MAY 8TH 2012 6PM at 3 Squares Restaurant
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 08:56:47 »
Quote from: The_Ed;581693
When I googled "4 squares maple grove" I got "3 squares"... Is this the place? It sounds a lot better than a pub to me. I vote for "3 squares".

3 Squares Restaurant
12690 Arbor Lakes Parkway
Maple Grove MN, 55369


yea same place. both places are across the street from each other. I think i'll just say we're going to 3 squares as well then to make the location set as well now
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Minnesota GH Meet Up - MAY 8TH 2012 6PM at 3 Squares Restaurant
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:11:41 »
So do we all drive to "3 squares" and meet around a "GeekHack" sign before going in? Do we have to wear nametags with our usernames and/or real names? Do we only eat inside or do we bring all our stuff in as well?

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Offline shawn o

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Minnesota GH Meet Up - MAY 8TH 2012 6PM at 3 Squares Restaurant
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:36:16 »
Not a huge place. Bar to the left and main seating to the right. Not sure of the size of the group but they'll put us at a bigger table on the right side if we have more than 6.

Shouldn't be hard to find the group. I doubt they'll be anyone else with a keyboard on the table. LOL.

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Minnesota GH Meet Up - MAY 8TH 2012 6PM at 3 Squares Restaurant
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 25 April 2012, 09:42:54 »
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Do we have to wear nametags with our usernames and/or real names?

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