Aliens

[razorsharpgears]

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/01/russia-orders-obama-tell-world-about-aliens-or-we-will/

[daerid]

[MattBuzzy]

lol Aliens 

[singaporean123]

it's not impossible.

when I look at animals they look similar.. the way they build their houses, survive, etc.


humans are the only ones that I know of who are so much more complex. IMO we're the aliens

[razorsharpgears]

Reality can have so many possible paths, that nothing is to be ruled out, ever.

[MattBuzzy]

Oh definitely, there is a high possibility of other life in space, but the words aliens that is always used is hilarious. Extraterrestrial Life is much better.

[Tym]

...Evolution...

WHO SAID THAT?!

[TheSoulhunter]

Aliens... One of my favorite movies!

[rowdy]

So what type of keyboard does anyone reckon that aliens use?

And what do they make their keycaps out of?

[TheSoulhunter]

So what type of keyboard does anyone reckon that aliens use?

And what do they make their keycaps out of?

Made of Naquadah, the 2nd strongest metal known to men!

[YoungMichael88]

I would be more surprised if extraterrestrials didn't exist somewhere in the universe. With the amount of solar systems in our galaxy and the endless number of galaxies in the universe it's impossible for there not to be. The numbers are just out of this world(hehe). I mean it's just not possible. I think the fact that we have life on earth is proof enough. We need not look any further than our own backyard to see that life exists in our universe. It's just that everything is so far away we will probably never cross paths.  We would have to be pretty full of ourselves as a species to think we are the only ones. Pardon my ignorance but if you think otherwise YOU'RE CRAZY!!

[baldgye]

So what type of keyboard does anyone reckon that aliens use?

And what do they make their keycaps out of?

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Made of Naquadah, the 2nd strongest metal known to men!

women know of stronger metals?!

[TheSoulhunter]

So what type of keyboard does anyone reckon that aliens use?

And what do they make their keycaps out of?

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Made of Naquadah, the 2nd strongest metal known to men!

women know of stronger metals?!

Reply v.1: Yes, diamonds are a girls best friend!
Reply v.2: Man, everyone knows only men are truly into hard metal, women generally prefeer poprock n stuff!

Make your pick ;P

[vun]

Seems like a rather shabby source though.

[poxeclipse]

So what type of keyboard does anyone reckon that aliens use?
And what do they make their keycaps out of?

I hope we keep our terrestrial technology for key switches, so we don't get those alien fingers ... thank you, but not.

[tp4tissue]

Aliens definitely exist somewhere. I just hope that they're not the kill you type.

[alaricljs]

They certainly are the kill you type.  I'm certain that there's a billion different microbial lifeforms somewhere that can kill us.

[link_tree]

if there are good aliens you can be sure there are some bad ones as well.

[tp4tissue]

They certainly are the kill you type.  I'm certain that there's a billion different microbial lifeforms somewhere that can kill us.

Oh, i assumed we're talking about "intelligent aliens" that would be "visiting us

Under the assumption that they have the technology to do so, it doesn't seem like they'd have a purpose in destroying our world, because they must've outgrown a great deal of the "basic animalistic" tendencies to tame their own will, to have achieved space travel and not killed each other first.

[link_tree]

They certainly are the kill you type.  I'm certain that there's a billion different microbial lifeforms somewhere that can kill us.

Oh, i ***umed we're talking about "intelligent aliens" that would be "visiting us

Under the ***umption that they have the technology to do so, it doesn't seem like they'd have a purpose in destroying our world, because they must've outgrown a great deal of the "basic animalistic" tendencies to tame their own will, to have achieved space travel and not killed each other first.

we have somewhat managed to achieve the space travel technology and yet there are so many bad mofos around the world. so I believe that if extraterrestrials do exist they would be the same.

[alaricljs]

Oh, i ***umed we're talking about "intelligent aliens" that would be "visiting us

Under the ***umption that they have the technology to do so, it doesn't seem like they'd have a purpose in destroying our world, because they must've outgrown a great deal of the "basic animalistic" tendencies to tame their own will, to have achieved space travel and not killed each other first.

But would they think to sterilize themselves and their stuff thoroughly enough to not kill us?  We haven't managed to not "infect" places we visit.

[iri]

russians see little green men from time to time. nobody takes them as something special.

[jdcarpe]

But our solar system is relatively young, compared to some. With a 10 billion year head start, you would think they would be here by now, if there were intelligent life out there somewhere. I'm afraid we are unique in the universe, folks.

Unless... Did you see the movie Prometheus?

[alaricljs]

I am of the opinion that inter-stellar travel is not worth the expense in time or materials.  The only aliens I think would bother are those capable of doing it and doing so to avoid the demise of their planet or star.  They'd transplant to the nearest viable location.  If they can't find such a location it's goodbye.

[YoungMichael88]

Well if the laws of physics are correct and the speed up light is the fastest anything can travel, then unless there is life somewhere within say 100 light years of our solar system I don't think any being would survive long enough to make the trip here. The dwarf galaxy Canis Major is about 25,000 light years from earth and it is the closest galaxy known to us. Actually it's closer to us then we are to the center of our own galaxy.  So unless there is life in our own galaxy and relatively close, we probably won't meet up with them. But the Milky Way alone has somewhere between 200-400 billion stars in it and its something like 120,000 light years across. Even the odds of life in our own galaxy is pretty good considering those numbers. But still probably not close enough.  Now consider those numbers and take into account that the Milky Way is considered a major galaxy part of a localized cluster of galaxies consisting of about 30 galaxies (3 major galaxies and the rest dwarf) and know that there are individual galaxies out there larger then our entire cluster combined and there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. So yea there's definitely life out there.

[jdcarpe]

You're forgetting about Einstein's relativity theory. As you approach the speed of light, time slows down for the traveller in relation to the universe around him.

Plus, who says you have to make the trip in one generation? An interstellar traveler arriving at a distant planet may want to thank his ancestors for beginning the journey he completes.

[Halverson]

You're forgetting about Einstein's relativity theory. As you approach the speed of light, time slows down for the traveller in relation to the universe around him.

Plus, who says you have to make the trip in one generation? An interstellar traveler arriving at a distant planet may want to thank his ancestors for beginning the journey he completes.

Or there is also the possibility of cryogenic freezing. Automated spaceship, sleep for a few hundred years, wake up in a whole new universe.

[YoungMichael88]

Yea I can't believe I forgot about relativity. Did you know that anything traveling at any speed has the same effect just scaled down or up depending on speed? For instance the internal clocks on the satellites orbiting earth need to be adjusted here and there back to earth time. This **** is bananas!!  Also I suppose there could be multi-generational crews on starships out there that have been traveling and reproducing for hundreds of thousands or even millions of years. On the other hand maybe they have studied us and avoid us because they know we couldn't handle knowing they exist. We are not ready. Maybe once we manage to travel at light speed they make contact with us. Like we have to meet up to some criteria first. I love this stuff so much.

[TheSoulhunter]

Also, looking at the avatar of jdcarpe...
Whats with warp-engines or using wormholes (existing ones or artificially created)?

[YoungMichael88]

That's possible too. I'm sure they have the technology to be completely undetectable to us. Look at what we have created in the past 100 years on earth. Imagine a civilization that has been advancing technologically for millions of years. I think that was mentioned already but it's not to be overlooked.

[YoungMichael88]

Also here is another fun fact about light speed. I'm not going to use actual numbers just so it's easier to get the point across. Lets say a bullet fired from a gun travels at 100mph. If your traveling in a car at 20mph and fire the gun from the window the bullet will now travel at 120mph. Stay with me here. Now if you're not moving and you shine a flashlight foreword. The light will travel at let's say 1000mph. Now if you hop back into your car and drive 20mph again and shine your flashlight out the window, even though light is made of particles just like a bullet is, it will still only travel at 1000mph.

[alaricljs]

So what about Newton?  Because hitting stuff at high speeds can be painful.

And again, I say the economy necessary to accomplish interstellar travel is painfully unlikely.  (no I didn't use those words, I said time/materials)

[tp4tissue]

So what about Newton?  Because hitting stuff at high speeds can be painful.

And again, I say the economy necessary to accomplish interstellar travel is painfully unlikely.  (no I didn't use those words, I said time/materials)

that's not a viable argument because,,, for example,,, condoms are a total ripoff until girls won't have sex with you without it..

At our wits end, with our planet dying, which is sure to happen,,, we'll shell out for interstellar condoms trust me.

[alaricljs]

I'd put my money on mutual self-destruction out of avarice and self-interest.  If I'm not the one being saved, F the rest of you...

When there's is more than 5 people involved, it's just a cluster F.

[YoungMichael88]

I would hope that an advanced civilization would have done away with currency and economics.

[precarious]

........ f' that.

[Leslieann]

Anyone capable of traveling the sort of distances required are more than likely capable of coming here undetected.

A good question to ask yourself though, is why  would aliens bother?
Resources? Earth isn't that unique, the combination of things maybe, but the basic elements are found on many, many other planets. If it's because of the specific conditions, we really don't want anyone that advanced coming (did we care about wiping out natives?). Besides, if they can get here, they are probably capable of terraforming a planet into what they want or finding another.

The other common reason is, what do we have to offer anyone capable of making such a trip? If they are that advanced, how much can we teach them other than something about early life, in which case, contacting us would alter our course.

In the end, we simply aren't really all that important in the universe.
If it was me and I found Earth, I would be more inclined to avoid it and setup a quarantine zone around it. We are like parasites, we multiply, leach and destroy without much care for our host. We can't even convince ourselves we have a problem even as we are staring at our own destruction. Giving us any new technology would probably only be used to more effectively trash our planet or kill each other.

[rowdy]

So who here has seen a UFO?  I mean that in the conventional sense of an alien flying device, not just something you don't know what it is.

I've seen three, although I will allow that one might have been a satellite.

[GMC]

Also here is another fun fact about light speed. I'm not going to use actual numbers just so it's easier to get the point across. Lets say a bullet fired from a gun travels at 100mph. If your traveling in a car at 20mph and fire the gun from the window the bullet will now travel at 120mph. Stay with me here. Now if you're not moving and you shine a flashlight foreword. The light will travel at let's say 1000mph. Now if you hop back into your car and drive 20mph again and shine your flashlight out the window, even though light is made of particles just like a bullet is, it will still only travel at 1000mph.

But this brings us back to the hypothetical vessel travelling at lightspeed and you take a step towards the front of the ship.  Not possible in any corporeal physical sense, you would have to exist solely as energy to achieve that speed so the whole vessel construct and the physical 'step' forward becomes impossible. But how could consciousness rooted in biology, elements and elec impulses survive that transition.  The impulses cannot move in the forward direction without breaking the physical laws.  And so, Are you still you when you return to a state of matter rather than energy?  Reminiscent of the old ship of theseus philosophical paradox...

Never been able to wrap my noggin around it all.

Perhaps why this may be incoherent...

[YoungMichael88]

No you make perfect sense here. I'm not sure if the fact that you are in an enclosed environment would have anything to do with it. I personally believe in the laws of physics. But we are constantly disproving theories and writing new ones. So who knows. What it all boils down to is the human race is young and unintelligent in the grand scheme of things. Our "tough" questions could be common knowledge to pre-schoolers in other civilizations.

[BucklingSpring]

Under the assumption that they have the technology to do so, it doesn't seem like they'd have a purpose in destroying our world, because they must've outgrown a great deal of the "basic animalistic" tendencies to tame their own will, to have achieved space travel and not killed each other first.

Unless they are the good guys paid to save a planet infested by a nasty life form called humans.

[YoungMichael88]

Earth?  It's like a used car with far too many miles on it. Every major city is like a patch of rust. We never changed the oil or did any regular maintenance. We plan to restore it yet it sits in the driveway on cinder blocks. No tarp. Sun faded and unprotected from the elements. Destined for the scrap yard. Maybe the aliens are like the guy who drives past it everyday on the way to work until one day he stops in, "reasons" with us and takes it off our hands.

[metalliqaz]

Any species capable of interstellar travel probably has achieved practical immorality.  That is assuming, of course, that they didn't destroy themselves before they became that advanced.  Timescales on the order of 1000 years would be of no concern, only energy would be of concern.  The center of the galaxy is the best place to find that.

Also consider that most of the "stuff" that exists is dark.  Dark energy and dark matter.  Just because we haven't seen something, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Also consider how different life on our own planet can be.  Humans, squid, bacterium, fungi, trees... and machines that have already surpassed the complexity of the earliest life forms.  Then think about life that exists completely independent of our own world.  How different must it be?  Would it even posses an enclosed body?  Would it care about our solar system at all?

[keyboardlover]

[jdcarpe]

...rustled

You damn dirty ape!

[tp4tissue]

Any species capable of interstellar travel probably has achieved practical immorality.  That is assuming, of course, that they didn't destroy themselves before they became that advanced.  Timescales on the order of 1000 years would be of no concern, only energy would be of concern.  The center of the galaxy is the best place to find that.

Also consider that most of the "stuff" that exists is dark.  Dark energy and dark matter.  Just because we haven't seen something, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Also consider how different life on our own planet can be.  Humans, squid, bacterium, fungi, trees... and machines that have already surpassed the complexity of the earliest life forms.  Then think about life that exists completely independent of our own world.  How different must it be?  Would it even posses an enclosed body?  Would it care about our solar system at all?

it's unlikely that aliens would have an exoskeleton, because an exoskeleton is only required for something living under water// or very small, whereby the power to weight ratio favors a suit of armor...

However, the ALIENS we're talking about must evolve beyond the capcity of most predators, and so have no need for an armor shell.

And it's unlikely that they'd be aquatic creatures, because by the time they get space travel, they would've naturally got outta the liquid first, thus the exoskeleton would not be needed for evolving surface dwellers....\

Now, you can sorta say, well maybe they like being ninja turtles...

ok, it's possible, but unlikely, because it would've been impossible for aquatic creatures to evolve and build societies UNDERWATER, because hard materials that would be needed for that usually FLOAT in abundance on LAND...

And the fact that extreme heat would be required for the forge, there's even less likelihood that they could've developed structures completely underwater.

[metalliqaz]

I'm thinking more out of the box than that.  When I said "enclosed body", I was thinking of beings that exist as perhaps a swarm of interconnected needles.  Or maybe even merely a bundle of energy

[tp4tissue]

I'm thinking more out of the box than that.  When I said "enclosed body", I was thinking of beings that exist as perhaps a swarm of interconnected needles.  Or maybe even merely a bundle of energy

bundle of energy? LOL, how big of a bundle are we talking then, LOL..

This galaxy is a bundle of energy, and who's to say it's not sentient...

Each molecule has divisible components that are bundles of energy, maybe they're sentient as well.


And we're a bundle of molecules, so are "we" not a bundle of energy?

[rowdy]

I was going to start another thread about aliens, but this one will do.

Three, nearly four, years later and there's been no sensational news from Russia about aliens.

What gives?

[MJL]

Alien thinking would be totally different from our own, wait... Trump would not be an alien would he?