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America is the best country in the world.
« on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 07:56:35 »
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:00:07 »
Objectively.. YES

Just remember, patriotism is very dangerous and harmful in the long run..

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:16:17 »
As much as I would like to agree, I just can't say it.

Unless by "best" you mean "highest" and you're referring to the amount of national debt...

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:22:27 »
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It's good that we have the ability to be casual..

But.. I believe this in need of correction.. WW is very serious.. and there are no winners..

 A world war is an accelerated consumption of resources "which hopefully" triggers a new technological golden age..


This failure to trigger can happen..  Dark ages.. for example.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:24:49 »
I am not from the USA, and even if I can understand the notion of being proud of your country, I don't get how over-hyped many seems to be and how you like to say it's the best country in the world on every occasion possible. For sure, saying that your country is the best in the world does not have to be objective since it's YOUR country and it's ok to be proud of it. But in the US, it's seems to be more of an obsession. It's just too much and too far from objectivity. And there's never a reason provided.

So I would like to ask all of you that are always saying that the USA is the best country in the world: Why do you think it's the best country in the world and do you really believe it is putting your patriotism on the side just for the time of this answer.

By the way, my purpose is to be objective here, no bashing required and no wrong answer really. Even if many could debate that your reason is not good, I don't care and you don't need to justify it, but I am really curious as to what are these reasons.
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:29:26 »
I am not from the USA, and even if I can understand the notion of being proud of your country, I don't get how over-hyped many seems to be and how you like to say it's the best country in the world on every occasion possible. For sure, saying that your country is the best in the world does not have to be objective since it's YOUR country and it's ok to be proud of it. But in the US, it's seems to be more of an obsession. It's just too much and too far from objectivity. And there's never a reason provided.

So I would like to ask all of you that are always saying that the USA is the best country in the world: Why do you think it's the best country in the world and do you really believe it is putting your patriotism on the side just for the time of this answer.

By the way, my purpose is to be objective here, no bashing required and no wrong answer really. Even if many could debate that your reason is not good, I don't care and you don't need to justify it, but I am really curious as to what are these reasons.

No.. your perception is skewed due to the dominance of USA media...

We are trend setters in broadcast..

And most of what you see over the data stream Originates from the USA...


It is due to our POPULARITY, that you perceive us to be overtly patriotic / self absorbed..


This is due to your consumption of our entertainment news...



the USA PEOPLE... are no more enthusiastic about USA than anyone else is about their respective country.



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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:41:43 »
I am not from the USA, and even if I can understand the notion of being proud of your country, I don't get how over-hyped many seems to be and how you like to say it's the best country in the world on every occasion possible. For sure, saying that your country is the best in the world does not have to be objective since it's YOUR country and it's ok to be proud of it. But in the US, it's seems to be more of an obsession. It's just too much and too far from objectivity. And there's never a reason provided.

So I would like to ask all of you that are always saying that the USA is the best country in the world: Why do you think it's the best country in the world and do you really believe it is putting your patriotism on the side just for the time of this answer.

By the way, my purpose is to be objective here, no bashing required and no wrong answer really. Even if many could debate that your reason is not good, I don't care and you don't need to justify it, but I am really curious as to what are these reasons.

No.. your perception is skewed due to the dominance of USA media...

We are trend setters in broadcast..

And most of what you see over the data stream Originates from the USA...


It is due to our POPULARITY, that you perceive us to be overtly patriotic / self absorbed..


This is due to your consumption of our entertainment news...



the USA PEOPLE... are no more enthusiastic about USA than anyone else is about their respective country.

You might be true. It might be because I don't have this feeling towards my country AND because the USA is the only country near where I live.

Yet, no one provided a reason yet other than you have nice burgers. But we have the POUTINE, we are proud of it, but I can still recognize that my country/province (like a state) is not the best in the world and provide reasons why it is not. I can still provide reasons why it's a nice place to live.

But I agree with the exposition of the phenomenon.
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:47:36 »
Disclaimer: I mean no offense with this post. Please accept it in a tolerant spirit.

Q: The best at what?

A: The best at having "world" series' / competitions with only US entrants!

Oh yes, and these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_imports

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_budget_by_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_current_account_balance

Well, okay, there are good ones, too ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_international_rankings_by_country

It's quite an interesting list. I am certainly proud of the Finnish ones  :D

And I absolutely agree with the OP's sentiment: God bless the USA!

I really hope you get your money situation sorted.
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 08:55:36 »
Disclaimer: I mean no offense with this post. Please accept it in a tolerant spirit.

Q: The best at what?

A: The best at having "world" series' / competitions with only US entrants!

Oh yes, and these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_imports

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_budget_by_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_current_account_balance

Well, okay, there are good ones, too ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_international_rankings_by_country

It's quite an interesting list. I am certainly proud of the Finnish ones  :D

And I absolutely agree with the OP's sentiment: God bless the USA!

I really hope you get your money situation sorted.

Nice link. We have maple sirup, we win  :p
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:15:43 »
I am not from the USA, and even if I can understand the notion of being proud of your country, I don't get how over-hyped many seems to be and how you like to say it's the best country in the world on every occasion possible. For sure, saying that your country is the best in the world does not have to be objective since it's YOUR country and it's ok to be proud of it. But in the US, it's seems to be more of an obsession. It's just too much and too far from objectivity. And there's never a reason provided.

We love our country. I fear and loathe the state of my government, but I love my country. It doesn't have to be rational; in fact, love (of anything) can be most beautiful when it is not rational. I think what you're referring to is the concept of American exceptionalism, that there is something uniquely special about America as a country; that democracy has flourished here in a way that it has not in other places. But what constitutes "special"? I think that has changed.

In the last century, America embodied more than any other nation the concept of the rugged individual, free from government domination, seeking out happiness as they defined it. Today, progressives, hippies and other Marxist morons scoff at the very idea of specialness because in their hearts they are authoritarians -- and authoritarians have always feared free-thinking individuals who have the temerity to consider themselves "special" -- mediocrity is the new black.

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So I would like to ask all of you that are always saying that the USA is the best country in the world: Why do you think it's the best country in the world and do you really believe it is putting your patriotism on the side just for the time of this answer.

I love the idea of my country, and I love my fellow Americans, and I think we're special, that we have a special role to play in history. This is not a feeling I can "put aside" -- it colors my perspectives, I can't help it. To me America is not just an address, it's an experiment in human freedom. There's a creative chaos to American culture that I love. The constant influx of new people and ideas help make me feel that America is special.

I might ask you, JPG, why are you so (apparently) milquetoasty about Canada? Does my love of country offend you? You're free to love Canada; you've got hockey, bacon, francophones, hockey, hockey hair -- what's not to love?

I sell American flags for a living (well, part of my living) and I get asked this question by tourists all the time: "Why do Americans have such a raging hardon for your country? You put your flag on everything -- it's weird." My response is: "Why don't you have more affection for your own country?" It's considered gauche, sort of trashy, to love your country. It comes across as snobby and elitist to me. A lot of my workers are immigrants, and when they get their citizenship I am very happy for them. And they are very happy to become Americans -- it rejuvenates my own patriotism, every time. These are people who always have the same story -- where they came from, they were never going to "get ahead" no matter how hard they worked. But in America, they could (and were) getting ahead. That's where the zest for America comes from, in my experience -- the chance to pursue happiness on your own terms that you couldn't find elsewhere. And every new American I've met, I've felt as though I was meeting someone with balls; because moving to a new country does take some balls.

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By the way, my purpose is to be objective here, no bashing required and no wrong answer really. Even if many could debate that your reason is not good, I don't care and you don't need to justify it, but I am really curious as to what are these reasons.

Thanks! Share with us your zest for Canada. (I mean that in all seriousness.)
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:41:21 »
I am not from the USA, and even if I can understand the notion of being proud of your country, I don't get how over-hyped many seems to be and how you like to say it's the best country in the world on every occasion possible. For sure, saying that your country is the best in the world does not have to be objective since it's YOUR country and it's ok to be proud of it. But in the US, it's seems to be more of an obsession. It's just too much and too far from objectivity. And there's never a reason provided.

We love our country. I fear and loathe the state of my government, but I love my country. It doesn't have to be rational; in fact, love (of anything) can be most beautiful when it is not rational. I think what you're referring to is the concept of American exceptionalism, that there is something uniquely special about America as a country; that democracy has flourished here in a way that it has not in other places. But what constitutes "special"? I think that has changed.

In the last century, America embodied more than any other nation the concept of the rugged individual, free from government domination, seeking out happiness as they defined it. Today, progressives, hippies and other Marxist morons scoff at the very idea of specialness because in their hearts they are authoritarians -- and authoritarians have always feared free-thinking individuals who have the temerity to consider themselves "special" -- mediocrity is the new black.

Quote
So I would like to ask all of you that are always saying that the USA is the best country in the world: Why do you think it's the best country in the world and do you really believe it is putting your patriotism on the side just for the time of this answer.

I love the idea of my country, and I love my fellow Americans, and I think we're special, that we have a special role to play in history. This is not a feeling I can "put aside" -- it colors my perspectives, I can't help it. To me America is not just an address, it's an experiment in human freedom. There's a creative chaos to American culture that I love. The constant influx of new people and ideas help make me feel that America is special.

I might ask you, JPG, why are you so (apparently) milquetoasty about Canada? Does my love of country offend you? You're free to love Canada; you've got hockey, bacon, francophones, hockey, hockey hair -- what's not to love?

I sell American flags for a living (well, part of my living) and I get asked this question by tourists all the time: "Why do Americans have such a raging hardon for your country? You put your flag on everything -- it's weird." My response is: "Why don't you have more affection for your own country?" It's considered gauche, sort of trashy, to love your country. It comes across as snobby and elitist to me. A lot of my workers are immigrants, and when they get their citizenship I am very happy for them. And they are very happy to become Americans -- it rejuvenates my own patriotism, every time. These are people who always have the same story -- where they came from, they were never going to "get ahead" no matter how hard they worked. But in America, they could (and were) getting ahead. That's where the zest for America comes from, in my experience -- the chance to pursue happiness on your own terms that you couldn't find elsewhere. And every new American I've met, I've felt as though I was meeting someone with balls; because moving to a new country does take some balls.

Quote from: JPG
By the way, my purpose is to be objective here, no bashing required and no wrong answer really. Even if many could debate that your reason is not good, I don't care and you don't need to justify it, but I am really curious as to what are these reasons.

Thanks! Share with us your zest for Canada. (I mean that in all seriousness.)

Like I said, I understand why you can love your country and it's normal for it not to be rational, at least not all the time. But it's just that most of the time, all we "see" is that you love your country, with no specific reason provided. If there was a reason 1 out of 10 times, I would know MANY reasons why you love your country.

Since you asked it, I feel obligated to answer why I love and hate Canada:

Love Canada for:
- It's a peaceful country and the violence is quite low
- It's a beautiful country (landscape) even if we are destroying it too fast
- It's a country with a lot of diversity
- We have hockey and maple sirup
- We have a LOT of ressources

I hate Canada for:
- We still spend so much time and energy with the French VS English people. No reason to not get over it once and for all
- We like to screw ourselves and get stomped by powerful countries (we are giving our precious resources for example)
- It's a very big country with a very low population, mainly because most of the country is too cold for big cities to be formed. So we have to build long roads that cost a lot to maintain for relatively few use.
- - Taxes are ridiculously high

I hate my province (Québec) for:
- We still argue about splitting from the country (French VS English war). Get over it. We keep our french, we stay in Canada and we get over it.
- While we have very innovative peoples that drive our province (and country), we have a damn lot of people that are there to suck it up. While I think it's important to have social help, I think that it's equally important to fight those that tries to abuse it. And there's a lot whole of them, and since it's not politically well seen, nothing is done about it.
- Our government is wasting money and very good at being counter-productive at a very alarming rate. And while Canada's debt is not so bad, the Québec province debt is very alarming and critical.
- Taxes are ridiculously high

I suppose it's similar in many countries, but if we don't change some things, it will crash at some point. And if it crashes, it will be hard for everyone. It's time to solve some problems before it's too late.

And why I love Québec?

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 09:55:07 »
That looks tasty there!
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:29:51 »
That looks tasty there!

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:37:50 »
America is not a country. It is a continent comprising the subcontinents North America and South America.
It has been the name of this continent since 1507, when Europeans landed on the south subcontinent -- not the north one.
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:48:41 »
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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:49:50 »
Isn't there already a thread about this?..  "America **** Yeah!" or something like that?..
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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:52:13 »
Isn't there already a thread about this?..  "America **** Yeah!" or something like that?..

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 10:56:19 »
Isn't there already a thread about this?..  "America **** Yeah!" or something like that?..

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:05:52 »
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:14:04 »
God Bless the USA, hah!

Ever since it was founded, the US has been a totally crap country... if not for all the others.

I like to think of what Churchill said of democracy, and say the same for the USA.

I can never understand why the rulers, dictators, elites, aristocrats, influential people and religious leaders of various countries don't solve their f-ed up problems and make their own countries better. If their countries were better, their best and brightest people would not emigrate, the USA would be significantly less powerful and influential relatively to other countries, and the distribution of world income/ resources would be more even.

As such human folly (of all the other countries) has made the USA the least crappy house in a bad neighbourhood.
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:16:27 »
Who are you to call my country totally crap?
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 11:26:19 »
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 14:30:36 »
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:25:24 »
in the "GOD BLESS AMERICA", it is all caps!
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

-Ray Bradbury

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:26:39 »
Hey at least our nationalism isn't on the level of NK, Soviet Russia, or Nazi Germany.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:29:51 »
America is not a country it's a Continent.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:31:15 »
America is not a country it's a Continent.
Thanks for chiming in.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:33:53 »
Hey at least our nationalism isn't on the level of NK, Soviet Russia, or Nazi Germany.
also roads are good. and don't forget cheap top loaders!
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

-Ray Bradbury

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:34:13 »
 :)


I just realized microsoft windows didn't add united states into the 'America' part...
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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:39:11 »
:)


I just realized microsoft windows didn't add united states into the 'America' part...
And my professors try to tell me Wikipedia lies!

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:48:50 »
I love a lot of things about the US.

We're the OG modern representative democracy.  Pioneers of the modern standard of living.  After WW2 Good Guy USA invested hugely in rebuilding Europe and Japan.  We've incubated loads of stupendously important engineering and tech achievements.  Space program, military and medical research, Internet infrastructure, e-commerce.  Rock and roll, jazz, bluegrass.  We've blazed a ton of trails.

We have a lot of problems, and have committed many sins.  But I think historians 2000 years from now will look back on us pretty favorably on the whole.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:53:52 »
I love a lot of things about the US.

We're the OG modern representative democracy.  Pioneers of the modern standard of living.  After WW2 Good Guy USA invested hugely in rebuilding Europe and Japan.  We've incubated loads of stupendously important engineering and tech achievements.  Space program, military and medical research, Internet infrastructure, e-commerce.  Rock and roll, jazz, bluegrass.  We've blazed a ton of trails.

We have a lot of problems, and have committed many sins.  But I think historians 2000 years from now will look back on us pretty favorably on the whole.

I heard, in this very thread, that the USA was a crap country.  Soooo who do I believe?

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:54:37 »
I love a lot of things about the US.

We're the OG modern representative democracy.  Pioneers of the modern standard of living.  After WW2 Good Guy USA invested hugely in rebuilding Europe and Japan.  We've incubated loads of stupendously important engineering and tech achievements.  Space program, military and medical research, Internet infrastructure, e-commerce.  Rock and roll, jazz, bluegrass.  We've blazed a ton of trails.

We have a lot of problems, and have committed many sins.  But I think historians 2000 years from now will look back on us pretty favorably on the whole.

I heard, in this very thread, that the USA was a crap country.  Soooo who do I believe?
Follow your heart.

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:56:43 »
I love a lot of things about the US.

We're the OG modern representative democracy.  Pioneers of the modern standard of living.  After WW2 Good Guy USA invested hugely in rebuilding Europe and Japan.  We've incubated loads of stupendously important engineering and tech achievements.  Space program, military and medical research, Internet infrastructure, e-commerce.  Rock and roll, jazz, bluegrass.  We've blazed a ton of trails.

We have a lot of problems, and have committed many sins.  But I think historians 2000 years from now will look back on us pretty favorably on the whole.

I heard, in this very thread, that the USA was a crap country.  Soooo who do I believe?

Everybody knows Texas is the best country.

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:56:51 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :eek:
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:58:14 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :o



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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:02:01 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :o


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I didn't really want to get into it but there are certain events between say 1959 and say, still ongoing that argue against what you say.
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:02:29 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :eek:
This is true.  Protip: Jesus wasn't the only Messiah of his day!

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:02:42 »
I heard, in this very thread, that the USA was a crap country.  Soooo who do I believe?

Follow your heart.

Follow the Hash, obviously.

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:04:15 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :o


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I didn't really want to get into it but there are certain events between say 1959 and say, still ongoing that argue against what you say.




OR did you mean this

http://www.amazon.com/1959-The-Year-Everything-Changed/dp/0470602031

also

more random 1959 info

http://www.infoplease.com/year/1959.html
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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:05:47 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :o


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I didn't really want to get into it but there are certain events between say 1959 and say, still ongoing that argue against what you say.


How do you know what I mean when I say 'we'? What I mean is any person can be the champion of their time. It's up to the individual to make a difference in the world. For good or bad, history has taught us that one person can make a difference.

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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:09:55 »
I just presumed because you were posting in a thread titled "America is the best country in the world." that you were commenting about America... but you know what the say about presuming.

Sorry  :-X
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:10:58 »
I just presumed because you were posting in a thread titled "America is the best country in the world." that you were commenting about America... but you know what the say about presuming.

Sorry  :-X

that's assuming :p

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Re: America is the best country in the world.
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:12:24 »
But they say history is written by the victors? What if there are no victors? Only losers?  :eek:


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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:13:23 »
Thats what i said, maybe there was a communication error because of my British accent.
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