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Offline neunelfer

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 15:55:03 »
Seriously, not every keyboard is for everyone. You're talking about as if it is the ****tiest thing you could buy, "wasting 300$". You're overreacting with jizzing over your ergo keyboards 3 people in the world care about and with your hate talk you're just as bad as all the fan boys orgasming over the HHKB as if it's the best thing ever made.

No I am not..

I evaluate all keyboards I've ever used based solely on their USEFUL attributes..

I exclude aesthetics and my emotions over them completely..

So I guess that means you have no reason to post in this thread again.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 15:56:54 »
No, not really. I found several flaws with HHKB when I received it, but I am still enjoying it. Doesn't matter how many times you're going to tell me I wasted my money, how much it sucks and how it's the worst keyboard on this planet, I will continue enjoying it since 1.) I PERSONALLY like it and 2.) although I'm relatively new here I have disregarded your opinion and credibility completely since 98% of your posts are calling every non ergo keyboard **** and ergo dox the best keyboard ever made. Now THAT'S fanboyism.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 16:03:11 »
No, not really. I found several flaws with HHKB when I received it, but I am still enjoying it. Doesn't matter how many times you're going to tell me I wasted my money, how much it sucks and how it's the worst keyboard on this planet, I will continue enjoying it since 1.) I PERSONALLY like it and 2.) although I'm relatively new here I have disregarded your opinion and credibility completely since 98% of your posts are calling every non ergo keyboard **** and ergo dox the best keyboard ever made. Now THAT'S fanboyism.

I'm not telling YOU, that YOU've wasted money.. where have I said that...

here, YOU"RE telling me that you've wasted money... because of your defensiveness, and the gushing of emotional roundabouts in your response.

This entire time, if you don't believe that you're part of the crowd that I accuse of worshiping a false idol.. then you have nothing to defend..

And yet here you are... hell bent on PROVING something to me...



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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 16:29:50 »
Tp4tissue, I see your argument and I think you would be right if it weren't for one thing, the hhkb pretty much sells for what you pay for it so there is no loss if you don't like it you would just say I didn't like it and sell it. If that weren't the case your argument would make a lot of sense. But because that is the case and their are still so few hhkb haters what that tells me is that it's the master race keyboard  :p

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 16:47:31 »
Tp4tissue, I see your argument and I think you would be right if it weren't for one thing, the hhkb pretty much sells for what you pay for it so there is no loss if you don't like it you would just say I didn't like it and sell it. If that weren't the case your argument would make a lot of sense. But because that is the case and their are still so few hhkb haters what that tells me is that it's the master race keyboard  :p

The view I put forward could be the extreme case.. this is true, and I recognize that there may be people who are only "very slightly" disappointed in the HHKB they bought..

You're absolutely right that they could sell the HHKB and get some of the money back..

However, to reach that threshold requires an emotional leap to admit fault..

This is the obstacle most difficult to cross for the less objective hobbyist..


In the end.. it's a keyboard... why all the emotion.... BECAUSE the people who bought them didn't simply buy a "tool",  they bought a relatively expensive status symbol, they bought into appeasement of a yearning emotion...

Then they feel obligated to continue that slew of "good-vibes" by posting their support of it online..


The HHKB is akin to a Horse-Drawn-Carriage, however "gilded" and nice it may have been made, it is wood being pulled by horses..

An Egdx, for what it lacks in outward appearance, it is still like a gasoline atuomobile in comparison to the HHKB..

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 16:52:58 »
Tp4tissue, I see your argument and I think you would be right if it weren't for one thing, the hhkb pretty much sells for what you pay for it so there is no loss if you don't like it you would just say I didn't like it and sell it. If that weren't the case your argument would make a lot of sense. But because that is the case and their are still so few hhkb haters what that tells me is that it's the master race keyboard  :p

No, not really. I found several flaws with HHKB when I received it, but I am still enjoying it. Doesn't matter how many times you're going to tell me I wasted my money, how much it sucks and how it's the worst keyboard on this planet, I will continue enjoying it since 1.) I PERSONALLY like it and 2.) although I'm relatively new here I have disregarded your opinion and credibility completely since 98% of your posts are calling every non ergo keyboard **** and ergo dox the best keyboard ever made. Now THAT'S fanboyism.

hahahahaha stop.

also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

--typed on a hhkb
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 16:55:45 »
The difference between most people and tp4tissue is, most people express their opinions. tp4tissue tells other people their opinions are wrong.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:00:38 »
The difference between most people and tp4tissue is, most people express their opinions. tp4tissue tells other people their opinions are wrong.

I don't think I am absolutely right on all accounts.. I may have quoted that I'm 99.9% right, IN JEST..




With respect to Keyboards, which is a simple matter...

___Have you consider the fact that the reason you're reading my posts as IMPOSING and TELLING you what to do...  Is simply because of the fact that I am slightly "more" right in looking at the bigger picture of keyboarding?

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #58 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:12:16 »
I don't mind them.
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:14:39 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:17:06 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:17:19 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

what went on during ww2 was obvious..

The understanding of Unresolved tension post-WW1 is more important in avoiding conflict, going forward.

You don't kick a man while he's down and taunt him and extract cheap labor out of him..

You either kill him then and there, or you let him up and give him all the rights you afford to yourself.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:20:35 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:22:02 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

it's a locked article.. so yea.. it's accurate.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:23:19 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:29:38 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:30:19 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:33:22 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:34:35 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

tell you what i won't bring mccarthyism back if everybody on geekhack stops thinking 'master race' is a good thing to say ever
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:36:19 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

tell you what i won't bring mccarthyism back if everybody on geekhack stops thinking 'master race' is a good thing to say ever

This is a totally reasonable request that I agree with, but wantonly suggesting that someone's a Nazi sympathizer is a great way to get people to not take that conversation seriously.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:38:55 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

tell you what i won't bring mccarthyism back if everybody on geekhack stops thinking 'master race' is a good thing to say ever

This is a totally reasonable request that I agree with, but wantonly suggesting that someone's a Nazi sympathizer is a great way to get people to not take that conversation seriously.

i don't care even a little bit about people who don't already  :(
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #71 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:40:00 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

tell you what i won't bring mccarthyism back if everybody on geekhack stops thinking 'master race' is a good thing to say ever

This is a totally reasonable request that I agree with, but wantonly suggesting that someone's a Nazi sympathizer is a great way to get people to not take that conversation seriously.

Well I am taking it seriously. I would like to thank geekhack for the pleasurable few weeks, but I've met enough self entitled brats here in a few weeks to last me a life time.

P.S.: I actually speak German unlike you. The translation IS wrong.

cya

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:41:44 »
also not-haha, master-race is a nazi term (really it really actually really is. really)

No it's not. It's a wrong translation by Americans who have absolutely no idea what went on in Europe during WW2.

dude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Yes. Like I said, a wrong translation. Also: sourcing info from wikipedia, classy lul.

sure dude, i won't tell anyone you're a nazi sympathizer

dude, u can't say that..

i pretty specifically said i wouldn't

Seriously though, let's not bring McCarthyism back. :(

tell you what i won't bring mccarthyism back if everybody on geekhack stops thinking 'master race' is a good thing to say ever

This is a totally reasonable request that I agree with, but wantonly suggesting that someone's a Nazi sympathizer is a great way to get people to not take that conversation seriously.

Well I am taking it seriously. I would like to thank geekhack for the pleasurable few weeks, but I've met enough self entitled brats here in a few weeks to last me a life time.

P.S.: I actually speak German unlike you. The translation IS wrong.

cya

awesome :llama:
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Offline neunelfer

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:44:56 »
So..how about those HHKBs? They're pretty nice.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:46:07 »
So..how about those HHKBs? They're pretty nice.

they're aight...

nothing special really...

compact yes.. but too limited in features, and configur-ability.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 17:57:13 »
So..how about those HHKBs? They're pretty nice.

they're aight...

nothing special really...

compact yes.. but too limited in features, and configur-ability.

I've had mine (the JP ver..) for about a week now. I effin love it, but if I were to spend all that money on one today then I would not do it. It's nice, but not worth the money :( My "cheap" MX boards are much nicer for what I paid
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:02:52 »
So..how about those HHKBs? They're pretty nice.

they're aight...

nothing special really...

compact yes.. but too limited in features, and configur-ability.

I've had mine (the JP ver..) for about a week now. I effin love it, but if I were to spend all that money on one today then I would not do it. It's nice, but not worth the money :( My "cheap" MX boards are much nicer for what I paid

Try out the Egdx when you get the chance, maybe @ one of those meet ups.



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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:06:25 »
So..how about those HHKBs? They're pretty nice.

they're aight...

nothing special really...

compact yes.. but too limited in features, and configur-ability.

I've had mine (the JP ver..) for about a week now. I effin love it, but if I were to spend all that money on one today then I would not do it. It's nice, but not worth the money :( My "cheap" MX boards are much nicer for what I paid

Try out the Egdx when you get the chance, maybe @ one of those meet ups.

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Pls don't, you guys have already ruined me, I've only been here for a couple of weeks and have already bought a HHKB and a wooden case for my 60% board. NO MORE!
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:07:39 »
It's nice, but not worth the money :( My "cheap" MX boards are much nicer for what I paid

You might try to liquor up sth and have that statement tattoo'd onto his arse for good measure.  That way in prison he'll let his bunk mates know what he truly prefers.......  :thumb: .

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:09:43 »
It's nice, but not worth the money :( My "cheap" MX boards are much nicer for what I paid

You might try to liquor up sth and have that statement tattoo'd onto his arse for good measure.  That way in prison he'll let his bunk mates know what he truly prefers.......  :thumb: .

Get him over here and I promise that I'll make it happen.
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:14:28 »
:-*
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 18:18:14 »
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:24:56 »
This thread :))

Happy holidays everyone ;D
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 19:59:18 »
Quote
___Have you consider the fact that the reason you're reading my posts as IMPOSING and TELLING you what to do...  Is simply because of the fact that I am slightly "more" right in looking at the bigger picture of keyboarding?

Not really. Whether someone prefers Topre or Cherry is a matter of subjective opinion. The fact that you believe your "bigger" perspective on keyboarding makes your opinion more right than others reveals you are a bigoted douche.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:08:42 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:11:34 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:18:27 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You mean lubed switches?

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:20:19 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You mean lubed switches?

Yeah I don't really know what he means either.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:20:41 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You know this from experience?

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:28:10 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You know this from experience?

I don't think he has a Korean custom or Topre..

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:31:05 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You know this from experience?

I don't think he has a Korean custom or Topre..

But he does have… opinions!

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:49:00 »
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___Have you consider the fact that the reason you're reading my posts as IMPOSING and TELLING you what to do...  Is simply because of the fact that I am slightly "more" right in looking at the bigger picture of keyboarding?

Not really. Whether someone prefers Topre or Cherry is a matter of subjective opinion. The fact that you believe your "bigger" perspective on keyboarding makes your opinion more right than others reveals you are a bigoted douche.

No... this is not an argument about topre or cherry..   This is Egdx, vs rectangle

I consider the Topre Split keyboard a great board along side Egdx.. but it's been just too hard to buy one.


The feel of a switch, topre, cherry, all irrelevant in my evaluation of keyboards, because they make almost no difference in usability.

It is a FACT that extended use of flat rectangular keyboards manifests RSI.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 20:52:42 »
My HHKB gives me mixed feelings. It feels really nice.. when I go back to my Filco it doesn't feel as nice  :(
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wait until you get a korean custom

You mean lubed switches?

he means he's talking out of his ass of something he has no idea about.


again.
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 26 December 2013, 23:58:18 »
Never got use to the layout and it has been in the shelf for a year now :(. Using a rf for the topre though :D.
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 00:37:39 »
Never got use to the layout and it has been in the shelf for a year now :(. Using a rf for the topre though :D.

If you'd like to try a 60% with a more standard layout (normal backspace, dedicated arrow keys) you should try the Leopold FC660C. Although the laser-etched keycaps don't look amazing, the thing feels as good as any HHKB (better according to some :gasp:).
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 00:41:52 »
Never got use to the layout and it has been in the shelf for a year now :(. Using a rf for the topre though :D.

will you sell the hhkb?

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 00:48:55 »
Never got use to the layout and it has been in the shelf for a year now :(. Using a rf for the topre though :D.

will you sell the hhkb?

If the "struggling student" bit refers to financially, in contradistinction to educationally, it might be a possibility ;)
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 00:55:43 »
I was about to say, the thread quickly went down hill when "you-know-what" was mentioned. Thankfully the thread rebounced.

Anyway I bought my HHKB was for reasons really other than the fact that it was based on Topre switch. The fact that it is using Topre switch was a bit of a bonus for me but at the point when my interest was heightened prior to my purchase of HHKB; the one of the main reason was that I cared about one thing which was that it is a "mechanical keyboard". Regardless of how people went about their own ways declaring that it isn't or it is hybrid/part/etc. To me it is a mechanical keyboard and not a rubber dome keyboard, or rubber dome on membrane sheets. Should one be curious as to my reasons for HHKB, they don't have to look any further than my thread which is linked on my signature.

I can be pretty cruel here and say that I wouldn't have cared if HHKB is usng Cherry MX, Bucking spring, Alps, or even Hall effect. The only thing that mattered was that it was reassuring to know that HHKB was virtually entirely made in Japan. I never knew that until much later on along with all the extra little perks for being HHKB owner such as hasu's TMK project or bluetooth modding project for instance. There are plenty more but I am not going to repeat myself over other every little perks of having HHKB.

I am just happy and content with my HHKB despite some of its shortcomings. I guess most other HHKB owners can somewhat relate when they noticed that HHKB lacked either this or that. The part that matters the most is that one has the said material. That is all that matters.

No keyboard is perfect for everyone, because everyone has their own taste/preference. To fight over preferences is quite silly. That is why there is a market for HHKB, there is a market for ErgoDox, there is a market for IBM Model M, etc.
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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 01:16:49 »
I was about to say, the thread quickly went down hill when "you-know-what" was mentioned. Thankfully the thread rebounced.

Anyway I bought my HHKB was for reasons really other than the fact that it was based on Topre switch. The fact that it is using Topre switch was a bit of a bonus for me but at the point when my interest was heightened prior to my purchase of HHKB; the one of the main reason was that I cared about one thing which was that it is a "mechanical keyboard". Regardless of how people went about their own ways declaring that it isn't or it is hybrid/part/etc. To me it is a mechanical keyboard and not a rubber dome keyboard, or rubber dome on membrane sheets. Should one be curious as to my reasons for HHKB, they don't have to look any further than my thread which is linked on my signature.

I can be pretty cruel here and say that I wouldn't have cared if HHKB is usng Cherry MX, Bucking spring, Alps, or even Hall effect. The only thing that mattered was that it was reassuring to know that HHKB was virtually entirely made in Japan. I never knew that until much later on along with all the extra little perks for being HHKB owner such as hasu's TMK project or bluetooth modding project for instance. There are plenty more but I am not going to repeat myself over other every little perks of having HHKB.

I am just happy and content with my HHKB despite some of its shortcomings. I guess most other HHKB owners can somewhat relate when they noticed that HHKB lacked either this or that. The part that matters the most is that one has the said material. That is all that matters.

No keyboard is perfect for everyone, because everyone has their own taste/preference. To fight over preferences is quite silly. That is why there is a market for HHKB, there is a market for ErgoDox, there is a market for IBM Model M, etc.

The difference between an Egdx and the HHKB rectangle is NOT a matter of preference..

Egdx is fully programmable

It conforms to the shape of ones hand

It conforms to the natural resting angle of ones wrists

It can be modified for any mx switch.. linear, or tactile

If you decide you'd like a different switch, you can easily swap them out without desoldering.

Egdxs' split-design also accomodates people with broad shoulders whose arms are further apart


The HHKB... is derivative, and is quite simply the least common denominator in design, and it performs no better or worse than any other rectangular keyboard..


The only thing that makes it special is like you've said, it's "made in japan"...  If being a weeaboo is all ur after... mission accomplished..

But to those who actually want to extract every ounce of knowledge and science out of the keyboarding hobby,   to go BEYOND simple ownership and materialistic acquisition of trophies.. 

The path towards KEYBOARD zen is only revealed to those who are willing to rethink traditions and minimize their ancestral hoarding.

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Re: HHKB Pro 2 Mixed Feelings
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 27 December 2013, 01:23:13 »
The difference between an Egdx and the HHKB rectangle is NOT a matter of preference..

Egdx is fully programmable

It conforms to the shape of ones hand

It conforms to the natural resting angle of ones wrists

It can be modified for any mx switch.. linear, or tactile

If you decide you'd like a different switch, you can easily swap them out without desoldering.

Egdxs' split-design also accomodates people with broad shoulders whose arms are further apart


The HHKB... is derivative, and is quite simply the least common denominator in design, and it performs no better or worse than any other rectangular keyboard..


The only thing that makes it special is like you've said, it's "made in japan"...  If being a weeaboo is all ur after... mission accomplished..

But to those who actually want to extract every ounce of knowledge and science out of the keyboarding hobby,   to go BEYOND simple ownership and materialistic acquisition of trophies.. 

The path towards KEYBOARD zen is only revealed to those who are willing to rethink traditions and minimize their ancestral hoarding.

Hmm I thought this thread said "HHKB Pro 2" in the title...must be some sort of joke though. Can we talk more about the Ergodox?
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