GTAV will require 65GB of install space for PC

[noisyturtle]

RIP my Steam dedicated SSD. Going to have to make some tough calls on what to delete.
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/03/1421163526-gta-v-minimal-and-recommended-system-specifications.jpg

[baldgye]

damn

[noisyturtle]

And you may as well triple that once people start releasing texture mods and such.

[tp4tissue]

I knew this 1TB ssd would come in handy..

I

JUST

KNEW

IT


It wasn't an impulse buy... AT ALL...

[katushkin]

Are you ****ing serious? What the **** is all of that going to be used for?

[tp4tissue]

Are you ****ing serious? What the **** is all of that going to be used for?

My GUESS... uncompressed audios... and Large textures...

They probably want to get latency down as much as possible..  and reduce CPU usage..

[noisyturtle]

Are you ****ing serious? What the **** is all of that going to be used for?

My GUESS... uncompressed audios... and Large textures...

They probably want to get latency down as much as possible..  and reduce CPU usage..

Yes, it's mainly to reduce load times and keep the world seamless for large online groups. I feel like it should've been optional though and used matchmaking to match players with full installs with one another.

[slip84]

It absolutely kills me that storage became a moot point several years ago (1TB+ drives were becoming common and cheap), but now there is a space crunch again, which is typically self-imposed. I boot from an SSD, but all my games are still on a spinner. Performance isn't big enough to convince me to drop serious dough on a large SSD yet.

[tp4tissue]

It absolutely kills me that storage became a moot point several years ago (1TB+ drives were becoming common and cheap), but now there is a space crunch again, which is typically self-imposed. I boot from an SSD, but all my games are still on a spinner. Performance isn't big enough to convince me to drop serious dough on a large SSD yet.

Where've u been..  SSD isn't serious dough anymore..   

[IvanIvanovich]

SSD prices have been dropping huge the last month. There has been loads of SSDs on sale for $50-70 range for 128-256GB. I'm totally positive those rumors I've been hearing about that new intel/micron 3D nand toppling SSD prices and having large capacity in the 2TB+ being close to current hdd prices may really turn out to be true. There is also some talk about dram/nand replacement that will be slot compatible with ddr4 that will replace both which can dynamically change between memory and storage use on the fly... starting at 256GB per stick capacity.
Exciting stuff! I can't wait to dump all my traditional hard drives.

As far as games getting bigger... it really doesn't matter to me. I only install one game at a time as it encourages me to try and actually finish it instead of allowing myself to get distracted with something else. The only thing that sucks for me about big games is with digital distribution and that it takes days to download it. As far as GTAV specifically, I wasn't really that excited for it until I saw you will be able to play in first person without having to resort to hacky mods. I really did enjoy playing 4 with the first person mod despite some of the glitchiness so that is just great to me as I've always massively preferred first person to third person.

[Doyniish]

It's a HUGE and very detailed game. This isn't surprising to me at all.

[exitfire401]

Noisy, use steam mover. It's free and you won't have to pick and choose then. When i finish a game, i move it to one of my 2TB externals.

[noisyturtle]

Can Steam read from directories on separate drives? Do I need to do a 2nd install of Steam and mess with the save folders?

[slip84]

I have Steam store games on two different drives without issue. No hacks or whatever. Just when I go to install, I install it to the disc that I want. A quick google search found this: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1853743/steam-multiple-drives.html

[Joey Quinn]

I guess it isn't going on my SSD, but I'll still probably get it.

[Sent]

I knew this 1TB ssd would come in handy..

I

JUST

KNEW

IT


It wasn't an impulse buy... AT ALL...

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Yuuuuppppp.  Amen to that.

[tp4tissue]

I guess it isn't going on my SSD, but I'll still probably get it.

why not..  such a big game, means it's probably going to be hitting the drive more than other games.. so.. it'd make even more sense to load it on the SSD.

[Coreda]

Titanfall was 50GB, so it's not surprising. Every game going forward is getting bigger.

Lord knows how big Star Citizen will eventually be.

[exitfire401]

Can Steam read from directories on separate drives? Do I need to do a 2nd install of Steam and mess with the save folders?

Steam can read from as many as 6 different directories from my experience. Origin only reads from one.

[PunksDead]

Wheew thats a nice chunk of hardrive, atleast my laptop can hold 2 SSD's, now to see if the 680m can hold up for another season...

[tp4tissue]

Wheew thats a nice chunk of hardrive, atleast my laptop can hold 2 SSD's, now to see if the 680m can hold up for another season...

Derrr... 680m is equivalent to a desktop nvidia 660 or an amd 7950...

So.... @ 1080p  it should be fine.. 

[Puddsy]

lol **** that noise

i'll have to uninstall some of the games i never planned on playing

[bueller]

Wow. Looks like I need to buy another SSD.

[byker]

Do you guys like having games on an ssd? I use an SSD for windows and some programs, but a regular hdd for games and larger files. I am considering buying a nice and big ssd for everything sometime.. Would be able to remove the hd cage in my hadron air then.

[noisyturtle]

Do you guys like having games on an ssd? I use an SSD for windows and some programs, but a regular hdd for games and larger files. I am considering buying a nice and big ssd for everything sometime.. Would be able to remove the hd cage in my hadron air then.

I don't notice any real performance increase except with games tbh. Stuff like Maya, UDK, and 3DSM still run the same on SSD or HDD for me.
I use one as a boot drive to though, and it makes a huge difference there.

[Sent]

Do you guys like having games on an ssd? I use an SSD for windows and some programs, but a regular hdd for games and larger files. I am considering buying a nice and big ssd for everything sometime.. Would be able to remove the hd cage in my hadron air then.

I don't notice any real performance increase except with games tbh. Stuff like Maya, UDK, and 3DSM still run the same on SSD or HDD for me.
I use one as a boot drive to though, and it makes a huge difference there.

One SSD.  Everything on it.  I love it, especially for games.

[IvanIvanovich]

Depends a lot on what ssd if it's going to perform better in some situations. Like some ssd have crap write speeds (where I am calling anything under 200mb/s 'crap' and which is even more true on sata 3gbps) that are about the same as a fast hdd, so clearly it wouldn't give much benefit there.
Lately I have been using ssd for transcoding, then copy over to the hdd when it's done. I can see a definite improvement there as my ssd has 5x faster writes than my hdd, so it actually does finish about 5x faster since it's not being held up by write performance. While I don't do much things like 3D renders, I am pretty sure the same can apply there if the rest of the hardware is performing the task fast enough where it's being held up by write speeds.

Now is not a great time to buy ssd really to invest in 'top performance' sata ssd currently on the market... there is too many new things coming. Most important of which will be sane priced consumer level pci-e based or m.2 ssd using the new nvm express interface which will become new common standard. NVMe has a massive performance increase, and will leave current sata ahci ssd in the dust. Pairing NVMe with new 3D nand, and we may end up with drives that perform magnitudes faster than sata ssd at cheaper prices.

[tp4tissue]

Depends a lot on what ssd if it's going to perform better in some situations. Like some ssd have crap write speeds (where I am calling anything under 200mb/s 'crap' and which is even more true on sata 3gbps) that are about the same as a fast hdd, so clearly it wouldn't give much benefit there.
Lately I have been using ssd for transcoding, then copy over to the hdd when it's done. I can see a definite improvement there as my ssd has 5x faster writes than my hdd, so it actually does finish about 5x faster since it's not being held up by write performance. While I don't do much things like 3D renders, I am pretty sure the same can apply there if the rest of the hardware is performing the task fast enough where it's being held up by write speeds.

Now is not a great time to buy ssd really to invest in 'top performance' sata ssd currently on the market... there is too many new things coming. Most important of which will be sane priced consumer level pci-e based or m.2 ssd using the new nvm express interface which will become new common standard. NVMe has a massive performance increase, and will leave current sata ahci ssd in the dust. Pairing NVMe with new 3D nand, and we may end up with drives that perform magnitudes faster than sata ssd at cheaper prices.

NVMe will do nothing for consumers..

All that stuff only matter to servers.. because none of it helps low queue depth..


Servers are essentially what's deciding which storage frontier to push.

Because for the Consumer,, their needs have been met and exceeded LONG AGO, ever since the beginning of SSDs.    When we first got ~ 20MB/s random 4k... Job DONE...

[hwood34]

Do you guys like having games on an ssd? I use an SSD for windows and some programs, but a regular hdd for games and larger files. I am considering buying a nice and big ssd for everything sometime.. Would be able to remove the hd cage in my hadron air then.

It really only makes a difference for boot times, no real advantage for games. I just have a small SSD for my OS, and a 4TB HDD for everything else

[byker]

Do you guys like having games on an ssd? I use an SSD for windows and some programs, but a regular hdd for games and larger files. I am considering buying a nice and big ssd for everything sometime.. Would be able to remove the hd cage in my hadron air then.

It really only makes a difference for boot times, no real advantage for games. I just have a small SSD for my OS, and a 4TB HDD for everything else

Yeah thats what I do too. I think I will stick with this for now, maybe move to an all ssd setup in the future sometime.

[tbc]

ssds are dirt cheap nowadays.  buy the cheap ones; this ain't 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd gen anymore.  ALL modern ssds are good enough for mass storage usage (frankly, they're all good enough for every usecase except scratch drives)

[hwood34]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

[byker]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

On steam?

[hwood34]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

On steam?

yessir

[byker]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

On steam?

yessir

I am thinking I should preorder because I will want to play it as soon as it comes out. But what if it doesn't live up to the expectations? 

[hwood34]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

On steam?

yessir

I am thinking I should preorder because I will want to play it as soon as it comes out. But what if it doesn't live up to the expectations? 

Well you can already see how good it was for console, it really just comes down to how well of a port it is, and from what I'm hearing + Rockstar has taken a metric ****-ton of time on this it should be good

[nubbinator]

65GB?  Won't someone think of the poor Canadians and Australians?

[tp4tissue]

65GB?  Won't someone think of the poor Canadians and Australians?

HAHAHAHA.. yea we just heard about canadian internet gouging people..

[tbc]

65GB?  Won't someone think of the poor Canadians and Australians?

nop

meanie japanese people made fun of my internet connection in hotkeys thread

[Michael]

Why is this even shocking? Game files are only going to increase in size with bigger/better textures, audio, etc.


Plus - holy **** is this game massive inside the game. Surprised it's not larger than 65GB :O

[exitfire401]

Why is this even shocking? Game files are only going to increase in size with bigger/better textures, audio, etc.


Plus - holy **** is this game massive inside the game. Surprised it's not larger than 65GB :O

I was honestly expecting 100. Especially with the audio library.

[noisyturtle]

Just pre-ordered. That deal was too sweet

On steam?

yessir

I am thinking I should preorder because I will want to play it as soon as it comes out. But what if it doesn't live up to the expectations? 

Well you can already see how good it was for console, it really just comes down to how well of a port it is, and from what I'm hearing + Rockstar has taken a metric ****-ton of time on this it should be good

Agreed, I am generally against preorders since they are quickly damaging the gaming development industry, but having played a little of the PC version online (albeit over a private network) it ran very smoothly. But who knows what will happen on launch day when 2million people try to log in at once. Remember Diablo 3?

But honestly people are working very hard to ensure launch day goes smoothly, specifically focused on online play.

[nubbinator]

Why is this even shocking? Game files are only going to increase in size with bigger/better textures, audio, etc.


Plus - holy **** is this game massive inside the game. Surprised it's not larger than 65GB :O

It's not shocking, but it seems like you can't buy physical copies of games anymore.  When you're someplace like Canada and Australia with data caps, the option to install from disc would be nice.

[meow a cat]

Why is this even shocking? Game files are only going to increase in size with bigger/better textures, audio, etc.


Plus - holy **** is this game massive inside the game. Surprised it's not larger than 65GB :O

It's not shocking, but it seems like you can't buy physical copies of games anymore.  When you're someplace like Canada and Australia with data caps, the option to install from disc would be nice.

I had to pre-order to make sure I get a copy of GTA V on disc. That seems to be almost the only way these days, otherwise there aren't many PC games out there on disc any more. My local Wal-Mart had a few newer games on disc though, like D3 ROS, Dragon Age Inquisition, and I bought Civ Beyond Earth there on disc. It's a bit sad, I like collecting physical games.

You know what really made me shake my head? When I bought a copy of D3 on disc, the DVD just had an installer and I had to download the entire game anyway. .-.

At 65GB, I hope the game is actually on the DVD's.  )

[tp4tissue]

Why is this even shocking? Game files are only going to increase in size with bigger/better textures, audio, etc.


Plus - holy **** is this game massive inside the game. Surprised it's not larger than 65GB :O

It's not shocking, but it seems like you can't buy physical copies of games anymore.  When you're someplace like Canada and Australia with data caps, the option to install from disc would be nice.

I had to pre-order to make sure I get a copy of GTA V on disc. That seems to be almost the only way these days, otherwise there aren't many PC games out there on disc any more. My local Wal-Mart had a few newer games on disc though, like D3 ROS, Dragon Age Inquisition, and I bought Civ Beyond Earth there on disc. It's a bit sad, I like collecting physical games.

You know what really made me shake my head? When I bought a copy of D3 on disc, the DVD just had an installer and I had to download the entire game anyway. .-.

At 65GB, I hope the game is actually on the DVD's.  )

what?  hahahahahaha.... that probably won't happen.. if they used dual layers, that'd be at least 5 dvds With compression..  8-10 dvds without.. or 15 dvds single layer.

[nubbinator]

If you're spending that much on a game and they keep inflating the prices like they do, you'd better damn well be able to get physical media and install it from that, especially if you're in a country with data caps.

[tp4tissue]

If you're spending that much on a game and they keep inflating the prices like they do, you'd better damn well be able to get physical media and install it from that, especially if you're in a country with data caps.

LOL... It'd be kinda cool to see 15 single layer dvds..

But most likely  9 dual layer dvds..

or 7 with compression

[hwood34]

I complain about my DSL, but man being an Aussie must suck more than anything

[tjcaustin]

All this talk about disk space has made me price SSDs again.  500 gb 850 evo for the price I spent for a 256 840 pro over a year ago?  Sold

[tp4tissue]

All this talk about disk space has made me price SSDs again.  500 gb 850 evo for the price I spent for a 256 840 pro over a year ago?  Sold

Um...

There's really no point in getting the evo..

You can get up to 4GB / $1   on sale on the budget drives..

THey'll load your games just as fast..