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Offline markg546

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Ducky Mini
« on: Thu, 11 August 2016, 06:52:04 »
Ducky here i am again (hope you read this and make something about it)

Ducky mini (YOTH) is a fantastic keyboard BUT:

1 No new ducky mini (they are canceled or what?)
2 No RGB (yeah you may say that's childish,i enjoy white)
3 No programmable key (ok no big deal but I would like a macro of some sort to lunch apps and so on JUST ONE- example Space_key)
4 Dominated by Pok3r  (Vortex has bad QC {quality control} I got a rusted plate SO BRING THE MASTER RACE BACK-Ducky mini)

ideas AND motivation:
5 I am not afraid of bezels but here is an idea make the side (and top) bezel less and keep the bezel on the bottom (like an arm rest)
6 Because of the Mini everyone KNEW about ducky (ofc there is Shine but ehh) but now what? you lose a lot Ducky
7 PLS bring back the legend (Ducky Mini) ...

EDIT:Pls show this to Ducky i know they won't do anything about it But this is why Vortex is better now ... they listen (even with bad QC)
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/641652-ducky-mini/
« Last Edit: Thu, 11 August 2016, 06:58:51 by markg546 »
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 14 August 2016, 02:45:02 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

Given that the mini appeared after the Poker (and Poker 2), I would guess that Ducky was jumping onto the 60% train.

Maybe sales weren't as great as they hoped, maybe they had to maintain a new set of tooling to make the mini, I don't know.

The Shine is their main keyboard, and that has progressed through a few iterations since the mini's time, including RGB LEDs which seem to be all the rage these days.

Maybe it was too costly for them to retrofit RGB LEDs into the mini?
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 14 August 2016, 09:14:13 »
well thx foe welcoming me (forums are so nice )

yeah thats what i thought so they discontinued them?
they never said anything about it
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 16 August 2016, 06:04:05 »
Most of the large manufacturers don't give reasons why the start or discontinue products.

They might be holding off until they get an RGB backlit version ready, or they might indeed have terminated that product line.
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 16 August 2016, 11:59:28 »
It has to do with Market ..

Most people buying keyboards are KIDS.. .  they're not refined keyboard connoisseurs..


They eat up on all the kids stuff, backlighting, futuristic fonts, G4m3r...


They are the main market,   for the Connoisseur,   these companies simply don't care, because there are very few of us..
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Offline markg546

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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 16 August 2016, 15:05:59 »
fair point ...
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 17 August 2016, 21:12:38 »
For the Ducky Mini keyboard that you have any ideas and suggestions? Maybe Ducky can do the 60% keyboard again
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 26 August 2016, 06:10:34 »
Quote from: tp4tissue on Tue, 16 August 2016, 11:59:28
It has to do with Market ..

Most people buying keyboards are KIDS.. .  they're not refined keyboard connoisseurs..


They eat up on all the kids stuff, backlighting, futuristic fonts, G4m3r...


They are the main market,   for the Connoisseur,   these companies simply don't care, because there are very few of us..

Not all kids have sufficient funds to buy the latest flashing metal-cased keyboard.

But yes, it is probably the younger people who prefer flashy keyboards, and older folks just go for what works best.
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 27 August 2016, 18:23:26 »
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Most people buying keyboards are KIDS.. .  they're not refined keyboard connoisseurs..


They eat up on all the kids stuff, backlighting, futuristic fonts, G4m3r...


My students make fun of me for using a 1987 Model M in my classroom. Last year, I was arguing with one senior about why the Model M was better than his modern board. His response was that it had LEDs and glow patterns. Other techie types nodded in agreement. There was nothing about functionality or ergonomics, ease of use or anything, just looks.

Kids these days...
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Re: Ducky Mini
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 September 2016, 06:05:12 »
Quote from: aptivaboy on Sat, 27 August 2016, 18:23:26
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Most people buying keyboards are KIDS.. .  they're not refined keyboard connoisseurs..


They eat up on all the kids stuff, backlighting, futuristic fonts, G4m3r...


My students make fun of me for using a 1987 Model M in my classroom. Last year, I was arguing with one senior about why the Model M was better than his modern board. His response was that it had LEDs and glow patterns. Other techie types nodded in agreement. There was nothing about functionality or ergonomics, ease of use or anything, just looks.

Kids these days...

I'd like to see if their pretty keyboards are still glowing and working in 30 years time.
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NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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