Tp4 Monitor Shopping.

[tp4tissue]

It's called market segmentation,and if look closely at the model numbers on those Walmart tv's you will find that they are usually not the same model numbers as what Best Buy/Amazon/et al have as this allows them to claim same model price matching all while knowing they are the only ones carrying that precise model number and won't have to price match it.

Well, I'm not anti segmentation,  but these numbers are so different, with the model numbers so close, that it's somewhat deliberately misleading.

[tp4tissue]

GDI, just realized this tv no haz the S-video for Super Nintendo.

Now I gotta use Combined Luma and Chroma like a peasant over Composite.

[Sniping]

was the tv you ended up getting the $406 sale from walmart? seems like a pretty good price to me, but i've been hesitant to look at anything bigger than 43", since i feel like i'm just artificially pushing the screen further away from me just so it doesn't look so huge

[tp4tissue]

was the tv you ended up getting the $406 sale from walmart? seems like a pretty good price to me, but i've been hesitant to look at anything bigger than 43", since i feel like i'm just artificially pushing the screen further away from me just so it doesn't look so huge

I got the 7300 curved 55 from walmart, $433.

The 7200 flat model $400 one I also bought, But I returned because it was crappy. only 2800:1 contrast ratio after calibration.

I'm inclined to keep the Curved 7300 model, which post calibration has 4200:1,


The desk situation depends on how much Living space freedom you have.

The computer desk works just as well in the middle of the room.


The LONGER the distance from your screen to your eyes, the Less viewing fatigue.

This is due to Eye Vergence and Accommodation, both these attributes require the use of your eye's muscles,  These fatigue, especially for Upclose viewing 

BIGGER TV is ALWAYS BETTER,   limited only by ultimate viewing angle once your back is against the wall.

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was the tv you ended up getting the $406 sale from walmart? seems like a pretty good price to me, but i've been hesitant to look at anything bigger than 43", since i feel like i'm just artificially pushing the screen further away from me just so it doesn't look so huge

I got the 7300 curved 55 from walmart, $433.

The 7200 flat model $400 one I also bought, But I returned because it was crappy. only 2800:1 contrast ratio after calibration.

I'm inclined to keep the Curved 7300 model, which post calibration has 4200:1,


The desk situation depends on how much Living space freedom you have.

The computer desk works just as well in the middle of the room.


The LONGER the distance from your screen to your eyes, the Less viewing fatigue.

This is due to Eye Vergence and Accommodation, both these attributes require the use of your eye's muscles,  These fatigue, especially for Upclose viewing 

BIGGER TV is ALWAYS BETTER,   limited only by ultimate viewing angle once your back is against the wall.

so i'm referring to this: https://slickdeals.net/f/13041745-55-samsung-un55nu7300fxza-curved-4k-uhd-hdr-smart-led-hdtv-406-free-shipping?src=SiteSearch

seems like a pretty good model actually, i think i might grab one if it goes on sale again. it's diminishing returns for me fast so i don't think i want to spend more than $400 on any kind of panel. you make a pretty convincing case for the usefulness of the curved screen, which makes me more inclined to get it, than say a comparable TCL TV. i think i can set it up to have 6' of space away from the screen, which seems alright to me, i guess. also i don't know if you know but there's some whack dude on slickdeals who has one of your posts quoted in his bio with a bunch of laugh emotes...lmao

[tp4tissue]

seems like a pretty good model actually, i think i might grab one if it goes on sale again. it's diminishing returns for me fast so i don't think i want to spend more than $400 on any kind of panel. you make a pretty convincing case for the usefulness of the curved screen, which makes me more inclined to get it, than say a comparable TCL TV. i think i can set it up to have 6' of space away from the screen, which seems alright to me, i guess. also i don't know if you know but there's some whack dude on slickdeals who has one of your posts quoted in his bio with a bunch of laugh emotes...lmao

Yea that one, it's 433 after tax for me.

The flat one is 375, 400 after tax.


For 55, anywhere from 6 to 10 feet is good.  You'll just adjust the dpi setting if menu items are too small.

I write alot of random things on slickdeals, I didn't know there's a bio. which guy ?

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seems like a pretty good model actually, i think i might grab one if it goes on sale again. it's diminishing returns for me fast so i don't think i want to spend more than $400 on any kind of panel. you make a pretty convincing case for the usefulness of the curved screen, which makes me more inclined to get it, than say a comparable TCL TV. i think i can set it up to have 6' of space away from the screen, which seems alright to me, i guess. also i don't know if you know but there's some whack dude on slickdeals who has one of your posts quoted in his bio with a bunch of laugh emotes...lmao

Yea that one, it's 433 after tax for me.

The flat one is 375, 400 after tax.


For 55, anywhere from 6 to 10 feet is good.  You'll just adjust the dpi setting if menu items are too small.

I write alot of random things on slickdeals, I didn't know there's a bio. which guy ?

honestly 430 seems pretty reasonable for the curved, i think i would do it given the same sale price, seems like lower than usual though. i'm not sure who it was on sd, just remember seeing tp4tissue and i laughed. i'm talking about the signature in the user profile. i'm honestly a pretty sour personality on slickdeals, all i do is say that things are a bad deal, and once in a blue moon i'm satisfied with what someone is posting. someone better find a good tv deal again soon.

[tp4tissue]

honestly 430 seems pretty reasonable for the curved, i think i would do it given the same sale price, seems like lower than usual though. i'm not sure who it was on sd, just remember seeing tp4tissue and i laughed. i'm talking about the signature in the user profile. i'm honestly a pretty sour personality on slickdeals, all i do is say that things are a bad deal, and once in a blue moon i'm satisfied with what someone is posting. someone better find a good tv deal again soon.

That's what EVERYONE does on slickdeals.  It's a sour kind of place. hahahaha..

[JP]

I've never used SlickDeals before. Is it worth checking out? I normally just buy stuff on eBay or Amazon.

[tp4tissue]

I've never used SlickDeals before. Is it worth checking out? I normally just buy stuff on eBay or Amazon.

Slickdeals is like a forum for retail clearance/ promotions.

There is a very Narrow category of products that you can save money on slickdeals, because the bulk of the post space is sold to promoters.

Slickdeals used to be more user oriented, it's more ad oriented now.

[xtrafrood]

I've never used SlickDeals before. Is it worth checking out? I normally just buy stuff on eBay or Amazon.

Slickdeals is like a forum for retail clearance/ promotions.

There is a very Narrow category of products that you can save money on slickdeals, because the bulk of the post space is sold to promoters.

Slickdeals used to be more user oriented, it's more ad oriented now.

Decent equipment sold or no?  Just learned of slickdeals not too long ago.

[tp4tissue]

Decent equipment sold or no?  Just learned of slickdeals not too long ago.

-Narrow category-, Yes,

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slickdeals is good from my experience. i have a couple of alerts set up for things on my wishlist that i can't stomach at full price, sometimes the deals really are good. there's some good advice laying around but a lot of people also don't really know what they're talking about, so you have to avoid reading too many comments and buying things you don't actually need.

there's some $350 lg tv listed but i checked the contrast on rtings and it showed as 1250:1, seems a little mediocre to me so i'll hold off, though the price is pretty attractive.

[xtrafrood]

gotcha

[tp4tissue]

there's some $350 lg tv listed but i checked the contrast on rtings and it showed as 1250:1, seems a little mediocre to me so i'll hold off, though the price is pretty attractive.

1250:1 is very good for an IPS-panel.

Typically, Desktop IPS are only around 1000:1, and that's considered good as well, most have 700-800.

It will work pretty decent for 'Puter stuff.


Movies, mm.. black won't look as deep.   But you get better angles, so if the panel is either Very-large or Very-small, both situations favor IPS at off-angles.

But if this will be for personal use and you sit in the middle,  VA is still the way to go. 65 inch VA is about the cutoff for most room sizes ~10-12 view length.

If you got 20 feet, you could go to an 82 inch no problem.

Curved is really useful for VA. You wouldn't do your cad/foto on curved though, it greatly impacts visual geometry.

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hmmm, so my problem is that my room has a large window, and the curtains let in some sunlight during the day, and i usually keep the light on at night. i'd say the lighting conditions are never truly dark, and i'm dealing with some level of reflection all the time. i'm not sure how much i should actually care about contrast above 1000:1 given that my room is rarely actually dark. i've never done curved before but it seems kinda fun to try, so maybe i'll hold off on the LG for now. choices, choices

edit: also since my current monitor is PLS, the shiny new thing for me to buy would be curved VA. seems like the most logical choice for me. guess i'll have to start turning off the lights at night  )

[tp4tissue]

The lighting situation is mainly an issue for HDR color graded content. (4K Blurays)

Since they've moved to an absolute curve, you have to be in a dim environment to accurately represent the grading environment they used.

For IPS, you kind of need a bright environment, otherwise the glow is too-glow-y.  This is why IPS isn't recommended for 4K HDR movies.  Even with calibration, the glow will muffle black detail..

[Leslieann]

hmmm, so my problem is that my room has a large window, and the curtains let in some sunlight during the day, and i usually keep the light on at night. i'd say the lighting conditions are never truly dark, and i'm dealing with some level of reflection all the time. i'm not sure how much i should actually care about contrast above 1000:1 given that my room is rarely actually dark. i've never done curved before but it seems kinda fun to try, so maybe i'll hold off on the LG for now. choices, choices

edit: also since my current monitor is PLS, the shiny new thing for me to buy would be curved VA. seems like the most logical choice for me. guess i'll have to start turning off the lights at night  )

Movies tend to be watched in darker rooms where bleed through is an issue. They also rarely have massive amounts of pure white so darker blacks are more important than brighter whites which will blind the person watching.

Computers are the opposite, you need brighter whites and less darks and tend to be used in brighter environments. Websites are rarely dark text on black backgrounds (hello Geocities!) and tend to be higher contrast with dark text on white backgrounds. 1000:1 is perfectly fine for computer use.

As for curved, they seem nice, but the curve kind of effects how near or far you sit (so it may or may not work as well as you think for your situation) and if you use dual screens can be a bit weird. They also tend to cost quite a bit more and come and go off the market sooner so if you ever do want a second at a later date it may be difficult to find one that even looks remotely similar. Beware the super ultra wides (which are often curved), many games and things get really stretched out towards the sides, if they will even let you use the full width. Basically curved and ultra wide is a niche market. Personally I'd rather get a better normal monitor than chop a bunch of features just for a curved screen.

[tp4tissue]

Computer interfaces USED to have alot of black ,  until the Mass-Consumer era when UI changed to mimic paper/ printed books.

The Movement back to Black is Strong.   Tp4 MODE.

[fanpeople]

ITT: tp comes out as a goth.

[tp4tissue]

ITT: tp comes out as a goth.

Embrace the Darkness..

[xtrafrood]

I can't even, how on earth can you even grok current URL?  golly

[tp4tissue]

I can't even, how on earth can you even grok current URL?  golly

But Also, if you're looking at an image from Tp4 Vision,   and your monitor is on factory settings,  it is probably crushing some mid-tones, which would make Tp4 txt look less contrasty/visible than it is on Certified Tp4 Screens.

[xtrafrood]

I can't even, how on earth can you even grok current URL?  golly

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But Also, if you're looking at an image from Tp4 Vision,   and your monitor is on factory settings,  it is probably crushing some mid-tones, which would make Tp4 txt look less contrasty/visible than it is on Certified Tp4 Screens.

All my screens are functioning within _normal_ parameters.  Your URL fg/bg are uber low contrast.  I can't even still.  btw, T-1000 best robit.. just sayin'

[tp4tissue]

All my screens are functioning within _normal_ parameters.  Your URL fg/bg are uber low contrast.  I can't even still.  btw, T-1000 best robit.. just sayin'

Assuming your monitor is has comparable black and grey to Tp4 Vision, then the deviation must stem from environmental lighting.

As you know environment dictates the darkest dark we can see.

[Leslieann]

Computer interfaces USED to have alot of black ,  until the Mass-Consumer era when UI changed to mimic paper/ printed books.

The Movement back to Black is Strong.   Tp4 MODE.

Black has been and still is fine if combined with a high contrast font. For business off-white is good since business is usually done during the day, hobbyist stuff is fine being black as it's usually done mostly in the evening where the black would be easier on the eyes.

People who use large pure white backgrounds (#ffffff) on web pages have a special place in hell reserved for them where they get to stare into high intensity retina burning lights for eternity.