Gaming PC Parts discussion thread.

[phinix]

it looks like this.

[tp4tissue]

Check if the OS's night light setting and stuff is off.

If not that. It might be something on the LG, game optimizer, dynamic processing settings.

See if the Contrast / Brightness setting helps at all.

[tp4tissue]

It might be DSC,

You can use CRU to set the EDID, and then save, then reboot.

The total chunk has to be blank. Other boxes unchecked like in the photo. Don't touch the settings outside the display stream compression  yellow box.

[phinix]

It might be DSC,

You can use CRU to set the EDID, and then save, then reboot.

The total chunk has to be blank. Other boxes unchecked like in the photo. Don't touch the settings outside the display stream compression  yellow box.


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what is that app?

[tp4tissue]

CRU, toastyX.

[tp4tissue]

Use WhatColor to check the pixel value.

If it's matching Tp4's , then the GPU/Windows should be outputting the right color, and it is more likely the TV side.

All else fails, DDU, try re-installing driver.

[phinix]

I got this..

[tp4tissue]

I got this..

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Yea you're in the right menu.  Disable the dsc options like in my photo, and change chunk to blank.


Also try 120hz instead of 144, sometimes Displays use different maps between refreshrates.

Is VRR turned on ?

[phinix]

I got this..

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Yea you're in the right menu.  Disable the dsc options like in my photo, and change chunk to blank.


Also try 120hz instead of 144, sometimes Displays use different maps between refreshrates.

Is VRR turned on ?

vrr where?

[tp4tissue]

I got this..

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Yea you're in the right menu.  Disable the dsc options like in my photo, and change chunk to blank.


Also try 120hz instead of 144, sometimes Displays use different maps between refreshrates.

Is VRR turned on ?

vrr where?

Before you try VRR, none of the other stuff worked? DDU etc?

Try unplugging and replugging the hdmi after the pc has already booted and you've logged in.



VRR amd setting is here. Gear icon, Display. If it says not supported, you need to change some setting on the LG.

For example, I have to change to game mode on my samsung for vrr.

[phinix]

I got this..

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Yea you're in the right menu.  Disable the dsc options like in my photo, and change chunk to blank.


Also try 120hz instead of 144, sometimes Displays use different maps between refreshrates.

Is VRR turned on ?

vrr where?

Before you try VRR, none of the other stuff worked? DDU etc?

Try unplugging and replugging the hdmi after the pc has already booted and you've logged in.



VRR amd setting is here. Gear icon, Display. If it says not supported, you need to change some setting on the LG.

For example, I have to change to game mode on my samsung for vrr.

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vrr is enabled.

Re-plugging hdmi did not work. Could it be cable itself? I was fine for nvidia card...

How can I make sure I entirely uninstalled nvidia drivers, in case it had something to do with the problem?

[tp4tissue]

DDU is the uninstaller.

Download the latest DDU verison, then boot into safe mode, and run it.

[tp4tissue]

The display setting screen looks like this ?

[phinix]

drivers uninstalled.
Now, apart from that there are no drivers and screen is in 720p odd resolution, colors are fine, like before card installation.
So now will try to install adrenaline...

[tp4tissue]

drivers uninstalled.
Now, apart from that there are no drivers and screen is in 720p odd resolution, colors are fine, like before card installation.
So now will try to install adrenaline...

Did you do it via DDU? if it doesn't work, give DDU a try in safe mode.

[phinix]

drivers uninstalled.
Now, apart from that there are no drivers and screen is in 720p odd resolution, colors are fine, like before card installation.
So now will try to install adrenaline...

Did you do it via DDU? if it doesn't work, give DDU a try in safe mode.

Yes, DDU. I did not do safe mode but it worked as it uninstalled everything and colors went back to normal.

Now Adrenaline is installed and it came back

Everything is pale, also like heavy sharpening was applied.

[tp4tissue]

pale AND saturated?

[phinix]

pale AND saturated?

sorry, my mistake, pale. also like heavily sharpened, like when you apply sharpening to a photo when editing, it becomes grainy and pale.

[tp4tissue]

Is the C4 hdmi in PC mode?

[phinix]

Is the C4 hdmi in PC mode?

yyyyy.... wait....

[phinix]

Duuuuuuuude!

I switched on 4:4:4 pass through and it worked!

I knew how to get in PC mode when had CX.
How do you do that on C4?

[tp4tissue]

Firstly, Phinix must admit AMD makes the most greatiest GPU on the planet, superior to Ngreedia in every way, and it was Ngreedia's fault that Phinix's TV did not properly respond to AMD's incalculably uncontainable greatness.

 

[tp4tissue]

The reason the TV wasn't doing it right is because if it was taking in 4:2:0, it has to do chroma upsampling, and then sharpening.

[phinix]

Firstly, Phinix must admit AMD makes the most greatiest GPU on the planet, superior to Ngreedia in every way, and it was Ngreedia's fault that Phinix's TV did not properly respond to AMD's incalculably uncontainable greatness.

 

Weeeeeelllll... maaaaaaaaybeeee..... donno... need to use it for longer.

Now, where is my Dead Space...

nvidia 3070    - ave 30fps
amd 9070 XT - ....

[tp4tissue]

In the old LG menu, you had to rename it PC to make it pc mode, the new menu you just turn on 444 passthrough, Tp4 assumed phinix already did that. But forgotten he's new to C4.

Tp4 had owned a G3 briefly when shopping during samsung s90c vs G3.

[phinix]

In the old LG menu, you had to rename it PC to make it pc mode, the new menu you just turn on 444 passthrough, Tp4 assumed phinix already did that. But forgotten he's new to C4.

Tp4 had owned a G3 briefly when shopping during samsung s90c vs G3.

Yeah, C4 is different than my old CX.

But cool, it works.

How can I display fps on screen while gaming with AMD?

Nevermind, I used Steam fps. Jeeez, DLSS quality, high settings - ave 80fps.
3070 had 30fps.

70fps with RTAA, with everything on Ultra! 3070 could not handle RT and Ultra settings.

GPU temp during 4k Dead Space gaming - 80C max, plus 3x quieter than 3070.

So to sum up:

Dead Space (4K, DLSS quality, high settings (max), RT on) ave fps:
3070 = 30fps
9070XT = 70fps

[tp4tissue]

It should do well in Ray tracing.

You can also replace the in game dlss with later versions of FSR, but this is a can of worms.

I think it had FSR2 natively.

[tp4tissue]

Also, when you clean it next time, have the PTM7950 ready.


Don't forget you can get another 10% performance from undervolt+ overclock. It's really easy now. 

[tp4tissue]

NE PC parts Tp4 should buy from the Canada just in case?

[tp4tissue]

Spent all of the previous evening researching "The Best Thermal Pads."

It would seem Aairhut is the top one buyable, BUHhhh, not legit sourced.  So There's really just the Thermalright Odyssey II, and Arctic TP-3 which are assured from "Legit Seller."

Thermal Grizzly pads are too overpriced for contention.

Also mentally Leaning, Thermal Putty, buhhh, it's just too icky, and again, source problem..

[tp4tissue]

Nevermind, I used Steam fps. Jeeez, DLSS quality, high settings - ave 80fps.
3070 had 30fps.

70fps with RTAA, with everything on Ultra! 3070 could not handle RT and Ultra settings.

GPU temp during 4k Dead Space gaming - 80C max, plus 3x quieter than 3070.
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AMD has their own overlay now, you go to hot keys in adrenaline and set it up.  Some other overlay tools can actually add input latency, particular if you use them to monitor GPU wattage.

What case is that. Are the top fans exhaust?

Is the bottom removable for a deshroud mod ?

[phinix]

Nevermind, I used Steam fps. Jeeez, DLSS quality, high settings - ave 80fps.
3070 had 30fps.

70fps with RTAA, with everything on Ultra! 3070 could not handle RT and Ultra settings.

GPU temp during 4k Dead Space gaming - 80C max, plus 3x quieter than 3070.
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AMD has their own overlay now, you go to hot keys in adrenaline and set it up.  Some other overlay tools can actually add input latency, particular if you use them to monitor GPU wattage.

What case is that. Are the top fans exhaust?

Is the bottom removable for a deshroud mod ?

Its Coolermaster NR200p.
Yes, top fans are exhaust.


Bottom of the case? Yes it is removable.

[tp4tissue]

Yea that's perfect for Deshroud modding.. No bottom, maximum air hole.

[tp4tissue]

Do Not Buy.

Trash level quality, Trash level design.

The internal strut providing the male end counter force is too thin, it compresses, and it's very difficult to get the pins to fully seat into the motherboard, You have to apply a dangerous amount of force.

This not only indents/ breaks that strut slightly, it's also not quite enough to fully seat the adapter.

The internal PCB is also indented/bent very close to where side pins are, one could easily imagine a cracked joint here or trace.

[tp4tissue]

This advertising is just,

What are they so happy about holding a pcie SSD in their hands?

I mean, you know it's just stock images they purchased with the hand pose, but what was the thought process behind making the image, what exactly are they trying to convey?

[phinix]

In the old LG menu, you had to rename it PC to make it pc mode, the new menu you just turn on 444 passthrough, Tp4 assumed phinix already did that. But forgotten he's new to C4.

Tp4 had owned a G3 briefly when shopping during samsung s90c vs G3.

Yeah, C4 is different than my old CX.

But cool, it works.

How can I display fps on screen while gaming with AMD?

Nevermind, I used Steam fps. Jeeez, DLSS quality, high settings - ave 80fps.
3070 had 30fps.

70fps with RTAA, with everything on Ultra! 3070 could not handle RT and Ultra settings.

GPU temp during 4k Dead Space gaming - 80C max, plus 3x quieter than 3070.

So to sum up:

Dead Space (4K, DLSS quality, high settings (max), RT on) ave fps:
3070 = 30fps
9070XT = 70fps

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Alone In The Dark (4K, Settings Cinematic (max), FSR off) ave fps:
3070 = 25fps
9070XT = 60fps

[tp4tissue]

Hrrm... It seems like the 7900gre in this used Black Friday PC is already experiencing pump-out. If the original owner only got it in december, that's only 4 months of use.

GPU wattage is getting out of hand.

[tp4tissue]

Headsup on PTM

From reliable sources,  All mid-range cards and above have switched to PTM as stock paste. 

NO NEED to buy additional PTM for cards.

[tp4tissue]

Who the heck buys these Amazon prebuilts..

The pricing is terrible.

[tp4tissue]

Something is deeply wrong with a person when he sits in silence, listening to a single computer fan, flipping between 50rpm increments to subjectively characterize the perceived noise.

Oh wait, it's just TP4.

Really, think what has to happen to produce this kind of crazy, he has to be so detached from the natural world, for such an inane action to seem like a reasonable thing to be doing.

[tp4tissue]

The primary reason PCs look bad these days is simply, Too many fans.

Circles are good, but too many circles, it just looks crowded.

Unfortunately fans are the money maker, so these cases are really just designed to sell people m0ar fans.


Also, when did pci slot covers get so expensive.

[tp4tissue]

LED strimer cables only look good in the dark, off angle. when you can see the ends, they look jank.

[phinix]

LED strimer cables only look good in the dark, off angle. when you can see the ends, they look jank.

I always found leds to be iffy, never looked like you would like them to look like.
I was a modder for many years and always tried to hide led lighting, so it would only give a glow without source of light. Very hard to achieve...

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 is old enough to remember CCFL stick lights with the hot as hell balast connect boxes.

[tp4tissue]

After testing all the fans.

Arctic p12 max has the highest noise vs performance profile.

The measured noise level was about the same between all fans in DB, but VERY-different in perceived annoyingness.

The Nova, had a high pitched wind noise.

The Scythe, apart from the broken bearing, noise was fine, but if quality control is this bad at $20 a fan, not going to bother.

The Arctic also came with one with a bearing that's not as good (not broken like the scythe, but a low chuchuchuchu), but it's acceptable at $10 a piece, ordered a replacement, the new one's fine..


These are the only legit 3000rpm'rs on Amazon.   2000 has more options, but not enough headroom.

Performance is 5 Celcius better than stock fans at ~200 less rpm.

Poortitude certified Jankdevil 7900xtx.

[phinix]

Jeez, I remember in early 00s we all had flavor for watercooling and everyone was trying out all possible fans, it was a total show, search for best fans for radiators...

[Leslieann]

Poortitude certified Jankdevil 7900xtx.

How are you powering and controlling the fans?
Off mobo with software or using an adapter off the gpu? Just curious.

[tp4tissue]

Poortitude certified Jankdevil 7900xtx.

How are you powering and controlling the fans?
Off mobo with software or using an adapter off the gpu? Just curious.

Normally you can do that, they sell adapters for it to connect to the card fan port.

The problem in this case is the red devil xtx bios hard locks to 35% pwm starting point, which is way too high for desktop 3000rpm fans that ramps up to 1650rpm.   You can use 0rpm idle, but that's bad for cards.

So Tp4 is using a motherboard adapter and fancontrol software, which works amazing, it's so configurable.   For example, after gaming, you can set it to decrease pwm by 0.5% per second, giving you a 60second cool down period post gaming.  That's really cool.


There's no reason not to use fan control, it's so good, you can read 2 sensors at the same time, and have it respond to the highest sensor.

So for example, if you have a higher CPU only load, the fans can respond to that independently of GPU or respond to a high GPU only load, any reasonable logic you need, it's got it..

That's way better than reading a motherboard sensor, because those sensors have a huge time lag, AND, they don't have a very high dynamic range (temperature delta)  for you to accurately tune the fan curve.

[Sniping]

finally acquired an amazingly low priced 7800x3d system to pair with my 4080s. paid 550 with no gpu and came with a quality PSU, 4 silent wing fans and it’s an SFF build. it’s mostly white so doesn’t really go with the 4080s, but it was a deal I couldn’t pass up.

[tp4tissue]

Deshroud mod the 4080.