Topre Appreciation Thread!

[digi]

Thanks again Akimbo for the board, I think 45g is just right for me. I was worried that the lime green caps would be too bright since they look super bright in most pics but when the board is just sitting in the office, it looks great.

[Macsmasher]

I cuddle at night with my three Topre boards. They quietly sing me to sleep. If I wake during the night, I simply fumble in the dark until I reach one and press a few keys. The 'thock' reassures me that the planets are in alignment and all is good. I fall back asleep with a smile on my face.

well, some people find love, you've found a keyboard.. that's probably close enough..

Since I'm on my soon-to-be-over second marriage, that's probably a good assessment.

I heard divorce can only be good from Louis CK.. How many kids you got.

Four, but the youngest is 19. Only two live at home.

[tp4tissue]

I cuddle at night with my three Topre boards. They quietly sing me to sleep. If I wake during the night, I simply fumble in the dark until I reach one and press a few keys. The 'thock' reassures me that the planets are in alignment and all is good. I fall back asleep with a smile on my face.

well, some people find love, you've found a keyboard.. that's probably close enough..

Since I'm on my soon-to-be-over second marriage, that's probably a good assessment.

I heard divorce can only be good from Louis CK.. How many kids you got.

Four, but the youngest is 19. Only two live at home.

wow.. congratulations on the divorce then.. you're completely DONE... divorce is just perfect now, cuz you'll be free to do whatevers//whenevers

I mean wow, 4 kids over 18.. mission complete

[tipo33]

I saw an IC for hhkb metal case. I wonder if there is a similar project for rf 87 models (beside the digilog one or the more-like-wrist-rest one). Anyone knows ?

I'd be down for an 87u case for sure.

There were metal Realforce TKL cases on ebay a while ago.  They were 500 USD though.   I'll see if I can't find a link or pic.

[fuzzybaffy]

Thanks again Akimbo for the board, I think 45g is just right for me. I was worried that the lime green caps would be too bright since they look super bright in most pics but when the board is just sitting in the office, it looks great.

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That's quite nice. Makes me regret my set of Orange keycaps.

Then again, I'll need to pick up a set of Korean Topre keycaps anyway (which only come in either black or white), so I don't feel as bad. But, the green looks good.

[Sniping]

If the RF cases were $500 does anyone know how much does a HHKB HG goes for?

[tribade]

Just figured I'd chime in here, too.  I love my HHKB.  Wouldn't part with it for the world.  Although I am looking to get back into Cherry switches as well.  I like them quite a lot too.  But that 'thock' is so comforting, isn't it?

[sth]

Thanks again Akimbo for the board, I think 45g is just right for me. I was worried that the lime green caps would be too bright since they look super bright in most pics but when the board is just sitting in the office, it looks great.

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if you ever want to try blank blue keys instead, let me know. i've been wanting to trade for a lime green set for a while :)

[MJ45]

If the RF cases were $500 does anyone know how much does a HHKB HG goes for?

When the HHKB Pro HG was available in 2006 it was around $2700 and the HHKB Pro HG Japan with the lacquer & gold dust keys was around $5400. Guinness world records lists it as most expensive keyboard. Probably unobtainable for any price today I'd guess, not that many were made the PFU website I saw said 100. A link I have is ( http://pinchocodia.tistory.com/156 ). 

[rebcabin2]

Thanks again Akimbo for the board, I think 45g is just right for me. I was worried that the lime green caps would be too bright since they look super bright in most pics but when the board is just sitting in the office, it looks great.

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non-printed keycaps on my various realforce boards are great for scaring the other children.  the look on people's faces when i sit down at a laptops-open meeting and whip out a blanked board and plunk it on top of the laptop ... priceless.  The subsequent looks when i start clacking away at 130 bpm, and I just give them a return look with a giant what-me-worry grin -- beyond priceless.

[tns]

How/where can I have a list of Realforce keyboard existing or maybe should I say how to know its caracteristics?

like by having a name knowing its size/model/weight?
color?

Edit:
I guess I've kind of found what I wanted
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Realforce

[WhiteFireDragon]

*oops wrong thread*

[take]

best keyboards. other, lesser switches are mad.

[rowdy]

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

[knotra]

TJ - Get a 55g. I promise you, that is the epitome of Topre switches.

is a 55g topre heavier than a cherry mx blue switch?

[Sniping]

TJ - Get a 55g. I promise you, that is the epitome of Topre switches.

is a 55g topre heavier than a cherry mx blue switch?

I do believe that blues are heavier.

[rowdy]

MX blue is 50g, so theoretically Topre is slightly heavier.

[Sniping]

MX blue is 50g, so theoretically Topre is slightly heavier.

Isn't 50g just actuation?

[rowdy]

Er, isn't that what was asked?

[Sniping]

Er, isn't that what was asked?

I'm pretty sure the weighting measurement on Topres aren't the same as Cherry ratings.

[anticorrelator]

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

I totally agree. Though now that I'm used to the hhkb layout I'm broken for all other keyboards forever.

[rowdy]

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

I totally agree. Though now that I'm used to the hhkb layout I'm broken for all other keyboards forever.

How long did it take you to get used to the layout?

I'm struggling a bit, as the key combination to move cursor to beginning of line on Mac is Command-Left arrow, which is Command-Fn-; on the HHKB - 3 keypresses (instead of 2, which is bad enough compared to just Home on the PC).

[morpheus]

I haven't been this satisfied with a product since the old IBM Thinkpads.

[Danule]

After using one for about 3 weeks I can stay that the Realforce 45g is the most enjoyable keyboard for typing I have used.

[noons]

After using one for about 3 weeks I can stay that the Realforce 45g is the most enjoyable keyboard for typing I have used.

Just be prepared, it will spoil every other switch type for you. I have a cherry mx brown at work and every morning I expect the snap/pop of the key, but instead I am left unfulfilled.

[Danule]

After using one for about 3 weeks I can stay that the Realforce 45g is the most enjoyable keyboard for typing I have used.

Just be prepared, it will spoil every other switch type for you. I have a cherry mx brown at work and every morning I expect the snap/pop of the key, but instead I am left unfulfilled.

Haha yes it has.  I still rather game on an MX brown because of the actuation point and tactile bump at the middle of the keypress that allows for hovering the acutation point better.

[czarek]

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

I totally agree. Though now that I'm used to the hhkb layout I'm broken for all other keyboards forever.

How long did it take you to get used to the layout?

I'm struggling a bit, as the key combination to move cursor to beginning of line on Mac is Command-Left arrow, which is Command-Fn-; on the HHKB - 3 keypresses (instead of 2, which is bad enough compared to just Home on the PC).

On Mac which is in fact Unix OS you have option to use either Mac shortcuts to move around (which are inherited from Classic Mac systems) or Unix things. That's where HHKB comes really handy. So to move to the front of the line you press Control + A, to move to the end of the line you press Control + E. That's not only the 2 key combo instead of 3, but can be easily done one with one hand!
Full list of Control shortcuts is here on wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_key

[rowdy]

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

I totally agree. Though now that I'm used to the hhkb layout I'm broken for all other keyboards forever.

How long did it take you to get used to the layout?

I'm struggling a bit, as the key combination to move cursor to beginning of line on Mac is Command-Left arrow, which is Command-Fn-; on the HHKB - 3 keypresses (instead of 2, which is bad enough compared to just Home on the PC).

On Mac which is in fact Unix OS you have option to use either Mac shortcuts to move around (which are inherited from Classic Mac systems) or Unix things. That's where HHKB comes really handy. So to move to the front of the line you press Control + A, to move to the end of the line you press Control + E. That's not only the 2 key combo instead of 3, but can be easily done one with one hand!
Full list of Control shortcuts is here on wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_key

Why didn't I think of that?

Doh!

I'm too used to Windows Ctrl-everything and Mac Command-everything I didn't think to try Ctrl-something in the Mac GUI.

This is going to make HHKB a bit more fun

Thank you

[MJ45]

After using one for about 3 weeks I can stay that the Realforce 45g is the most enjoyable keyboard for typing I have used.

Just be prepared, it will spoil every other switch type for you. I have a cherry mx brown at work and every morning I expect the snap/pop of the key, but instead I am left unfulfilled.

Haha yes it has.  I still rather game on an MX brown because of the actuation point and tactile bump at the middle of the keypress that allows for hovering the acutation point better.

The Realforce 87u 55g is not bad at all for gaming action.

[anticorrelator]

It took me about two weeks only using the hhkb. I had to shuttle it between home and work otherwise I'd get back into the habit of using a standard layout.

I totally agree about the 3-key combos. I've mapped ctrl+a to beginning of line (and ctrl+u for eol) system wide using keyboard maestro though.

So far I am liking my HHKB 2 Pro so far.  Topre is sweet, and excellent to type on.  The layout is taking some getting used to though.

I totally agree. Though now that I'm used to the hhkb layout I'm broken for all other keyboards forever.

How long did it take you to get used to the layout?

I'm struggling a bit, as the key combination to move cursor to beginning of line on Mac is Command-Left arrow, which is Command-Fn-; on the HHKB - 3 keypresses (instead of 2, which is bad enough compared to just Home on the PC).

[rowdy]

It took me about two weeks only using the hhkb. I had to shuttle it between home and work otherwise I'd get back into the habit of using a standard layout.

I totally agree about the 3-key combos. I've mapped ctrl+a to beginning of line (and ctrl+u for eol) system wide using keyboard maestro though.

In my case different people can use my work computer, and I use a few different computers at work and home, so I cannot go exclusively HHKB, unfortunately.

[take]

The Realforce 87u 55g is not bad at all for gaming action.

qft. i use the 55g for everything from general typing to dota2 and l4d2, among other games.

[czarek]

It took me about two weeks only using the hhkb. I had to shuttle it between home and work otherwise I'd get back into the habit of using a standard layout.

I totally agree about the 3-key combos. I've mapped ctrl+a to beginning of line (and ctrl+u for eol) system wide using keyboard maestro though.

In my case different people can use my work computer, and I use a few different computers at work and home, so I cannot go exclusively HHKB, unfortunately.

Control key combos work on any OS X. And I don't know about you but I have always remapped my caps lock to Control. That's something I got really used to in Amiga days.

[insilica]

Do people still use caps lock? I mean I shift or convert small letters to caps... I.e. using vim macros... such a useless and redundant key imo. But I have a feeling some people actually make use of it every day...

I'm almost exclusively on linux. Caps is mapped to ctrl and ctrlA ctrlE are equivalent to home and end for me which is primarily why I went fc660c. One of those people happy they kept insert for paste

[Danule]

The Realforce 87u 55g is not bad at all for gaming action.

qft. i use the 55g for everything from general typing to dota2 and l4d2, among other games.

FPS'ing on a Topre would be good but the double tapping isnt as good as a cherry mx brown IMO.

[daerid]

neither are as good as an mx red for double tapping

[anticorrelator]

It took me about two weeks only using the hhkb. I had to shuttle it between home and work otherwise I'd get back into the habit of using a standard layout.

I totally agree about the 3-key combos. I've mapped ctrl+a to beginning of line (and ctrl+u for eol) system wide using keyboard maestro though.

In my case different people can use my work computer, and I use a few different computers at work and home, so I cannot go exclusively HHKB, unfortunately.

Control key combos work on any OS X. And I don't know about you but I have always remapped my caps lock to Control. That's something I got really used to in Amiga days.

Oh wow, how did I not realize this  . Since ctrl+u/k don't clear the lines I assumed ctrl+a/e didn't navigate to bol/eol.

[Danule]

neither are as good as an mx red for double tapping

well maybe. Depends on if you like the tactile bump.

[czarek]

It took me about two weeks only using the hhkb. I had to shuttle it between home and work otherwise I'd get back into the habit of using a standard layout.

I totally agree about the 3-key combos. I've mapped ctrl+a to beginning of line (and ctrl+u for eol) system wide using keyboard maestro though.

In my case different people can use my work computer, and I use a few different computers at work and home, so I cannot go exclusively HHKB, unfortunately.

Control key combos work on any OS X. And I don't know about you but I have always remapped my caps lock to Control. That's something I got really used to in Amiga days.

Oh wow, how did I not realize this  . Since ctrl+u/k don't clear the lines I assumed ctrl+a/e didn't navigate to bol/eol.

Yea ctrl+u only works in terminal. But ctrl+a and then ctrl+k works pretty much all the time.

[velvetdon25]

Hi guys,

I have decided to take the plunge and get my first Topre keyboard and have narrowed it down to the HHKB Pro 2. The only thing holding me back right now is I'm really undecided on getting the regular version or the Type-S. For the past week I have spent at least 2 hours a day reading and watching videos comparing the two and quite frankly I quite like them both.

I've read some posters here stating that the Type-S felt more redefined, solid, and some problems have been resolved over the regular version. Would be great if they can get more into depth regarding about this.

Price between Type-S and regular will be $70 difference for me as I will be purchasing it directly from PFU and I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for a slightly quieter version. It really just depends on which one is more "pleasurable" to type on.

This video that shows the sound difference between the none silent and silent version is what I mainly use for reference.

The none silent one has more "clack" and the type-s has more of a "thump" but also a little squeak if you listen distinctively. The squeak does bother me a little so for those that own a Type-S, is the squeak prominent?

 
I Currently own a Filco M2 TKL (brown) and a Filco Linear R TKL (red). 

Would be great for those of you that own both the regular and Type-S version to share your thoughts.

Appreciate the help I can get.

[rowdy]

I have only the HHKB 2 Pro, but typing on it is wonderful, with a nice thunk from each key.

I think you'll enjoy it, whichever one you get.

[morpheus]

Where can I get the Realforce 10th Anniversary Edition? and for how much? and what's the difference between it and regular Realforce boards?

[daerid]

The only difference is the case and cap color.

[rowdy]

There was one in Classifieds recently, wasn't there?

[Dubsgalore]

The moment approaches in a few days for when i get to try topre.

I might fall in love...i'm kinda scared to...

or i could hate it and see it as some do...just rubber dome

i'm excited either way

[AKIMbO]

The moment approaches in a few days for when i get to try topre.

I might fall in love...i'm kinda scared to...

or i could hate it and see it as some do...just rubber dome

i'm excited either way

You're gonna love it dubs! 

[take]

there seem to be a few anniversary editions on ebay, but the case looks totally different in the pics they're using. they have BSG-style cut corners instead of rounded ones, which throws up a red flag for me.

[daerid]

There was one in Classifieds recently, wasn't there?

Yup. Mine, and it went in a matter of hours.

[Keylamity]

I own 3. Just bought another one.  Beat that, geeks.

[insilica]

I own 3. Just bought another one.  Beat that, geeks.

Good for you Geek!  ) I don't think anyone wants to 

Although I love my silent variable 87u I'm increasingly loving my uniform 660c.