Dieting, Gym, and Training.

[ItsBc]

keyboard forum is best forum for great fitness and diet advice.

[microsoft windows]

Dieting, gym, training.....that's all for losers! I diet on potato chips while sitting in front of the computer, training others in the fine arts of using Windows.

[tp4tissue]

Dieting, gym, training.....that's all for losers! I diet on potato chips while sitting in front of the computer, training others in the fine arts of using Windows.

Eye musculature is KEY...

This is how I train..  

I just squint like this REALLY HARD... 5 Reps 10 sets

[Findecanor]

I thought finger muscles would be more apt for this forum ...

Except that there are no muscles in the hands at all, they are all in the lower arm connected to fingers with tendons through the carpal tunnel.

Edit: Fixed

[tjcaustin]

I thought finger muscles would be more apt for this forum ...

Except that there are no fingers in the hands at all, they are all in the lower arm connected to fingers with tendons through the carpal tunnel.

There are no fingers in the hands, huh?

(I know what you mean, though)

[belac]

... training others in the fine arts of using Windows.

That is the toughest workout of all! Talk about trying to get the human body to try and accept something unnatural...

[belac]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

[tp4tissue]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

[belac]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

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Google, pub med, documentaries, anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence, common sense, personal experience, etc. There's no shortage of sources for those that look.

[tp4tissue]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

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Google, pub med, documentaries, anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence, common sense, personal experience, etc. There's no shortage of sources for those that look.

So... you made it up...

[dustinhxc]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

[belac]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

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Google, pub med, documentaries, anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence, common sense, personal experience, etc. There's no shortage of sources for those that look.

So... you made it up...

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I see you have the literary equivalent of selective hearing. for that, i will steal your emoticon

[tp4tissue]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

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Google, pub med, documentaries, anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence, common sense, personal experience, etc. There's no shortage of sources for those that look.

So... you made it up...

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I see you have the literary equivalent of selective hearing. for that, i will steal your emoticon

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I've got 100s of them.. you can't steal them all...

[belac]

Well I'm not from the US and it is a researched fact that dairy products to a certain degree are healthy, sure if he's taking supplements then fine, but I personally like to get my vitamins, minerals and fats from actual food, not pills.

It is also a "researched fact" that the "benefits" provided by dairy are better obtained from other sources which have been shown to have less negative impact on the body.

source?

Show Image

Google, pub med, documentaries, anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence, common sense, personal experience, etc. There's no shortage of sources for those that look.

So... you made it up...

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I see you have the literary equivalent of selective hearing. for that, i will steal your emoticon

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I've got 100s of them.. you can't steal them all...

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[davkol]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

[dustinhxc]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

You can eat lots of carbs and take protein with high carb in it most are called weight gainers.

[davkol]

Yeah, that's the problem. I'm one of those people who prefer actual food... but looking at the other recommendations... well, I already eat most of that. Except peanut butter, because it's disgusting IMHO.

[iri]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

late suppers, sweet food and high starch products are your friends then.

[davkol]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

late suppers

That's what I already do. Actually, I've been doing it for ages.

sweet food and high starch products are your friends then.

I eat that as well.

I mean, about a half of my family is fat... not two-seats-wide-American obese, but definitely fat. I eat much more then they do, but I'm still under 65 kg. I have absolutely no problem with a 0.5kg real yoghurt for breakfast, huge dinner at 9 pm, midnight snacks consisting of cakes,...

[iri]

it was my style of eating in past times. i was 185/65. then i gave up smoking and gained 18 kgs in seven months. now i have to be concerned about what i'm eating

[davkol]

Hmmm... I can't give up smoking, because I don't smoke.

[tp4tissue]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

You can eat lots of carbs and take protein with high carb in it most are called weight gainers.

these mostly make you FAT...

[Malphas]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

You can eat lots of carbs and take protein with high carb in it most are called weight gainers.

these mostly make you FAT...

No differently from how any other source of excess calories will make you fat. It shows a lack of understanding of how the metabolic systems work if you think some sources of calories are more likely to make you fat than others. It's ultimately very simple; the body will treat all excess calories more or less the same, regardless of the source - a proportion will be used to increase your amount of muscle depending on genetics, exercise, age, hormones (including ancillary steroids), etc. and the rest will be stored as subcutaneous fat. Your entire musculature is constantly being broken down and rebuilt based on your existing protein intake, so the notion that you have to increase your protein consumption massively in order to gain significant amounts of muscle is a myth primarily used to sell protein supplements.

It is true that generally people get fat on weight gainers, but that's because either a) they don't care and just want to put on weight without too much concern over whether it's adipose tissue or muscle; or b) a misunderstanding of the rate the body can create new muscle, and the factors involved.

[tp4tissue]

I'm at the gym right now! still can't pry me from technology even when I'm out lol.. Those questioning the low dairy / dairy free diet. Try it if youd like! I've lost a lot of weight.

My diet consists of dairy products for the most part, but I have quite the opposite "problem". I'd like to *gain* weight.

You can eat lots of carbs and take protein with high carb in it most are called weight gainers.

these mostly make you FAT...

No differently from how any other source of excess calories will make you fat. It shows a lack of understanding of how the metabolic systems work if you think some sources of calories are more likely to make you fat than others. It's ultimately very simple; the body will treat all excess calories more or less the same, regardless of the source - a proportion will be used to increase your amount of muscle depending on genetics, exercise, age, hormones (including ancillary steroids), etc. and the rest will be stored as subcutaneous fat. Your entire musculature is constantly being broken down and rebuilt based on your existing protein intake, so the notion that you have to increase your protein consumption massively in order to gain significant amounts of muscle is a myth primarily used to sell protein supplements.

It is true that generally people get fat on weight gainers, but that's because either a) they don't care and just want to put on weight without too much concern over whether it's adipose tissue or muscle; or b) a misunderstanding of the rate the body can create new muscle, and the factors involved.

Didn't read...

They make you fat..

[Malphas]

Care to explain why that is? Oh wait, you don't actually know because you're painfully ill-informed, generally lacking in intelligence, and the forum joke.

[tp4tissue]

Care to explain why that is? Oh wait, you don't actually know because you're painfully ill-informed, generally lacking in intelligence, and the forum joke.

didn't read...

They're making people fat..

[Malphas]

Food (which included weight gainers) makes people fat.

[tp4tissue]

Food (which included weight gainers) makes people fat.

Whatever you keep typing.. I can only guess.. since I did not read it.. I only hope it's not something indirectly racist,  given your remarks in the past..

Again.. meal replacements are mostly simple carbs, and they generally make people fat..

[iri]

again, tp4tissue should be blindfolded with a string.

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[tp4tissue]

again, tp4tissue should be blindfolded with a string.

I can tell you really want to be added to the Racist Bigot list like Malphas...

I would've thought you'd at least come up with a more original entry quote.

[iri]

but blatant racists never want to be original, innit?

[Malphas]

Go cry yourself to sleep tp, instead of pretending not to read my posts whilst frantically making pitiful rebuttals to them.

[tp4tissue]

Go cry yourself to sleep tp, instead of pretending not to read my posts whilst frantically making pitiful rebuttals to them.

didn't read..

the meal replacements make people fat.

[dustinhxc]

That is all very true, the weight gainers work if you're working out the right muscle groups the right way each week and taking the correct intake of protein and carbs to your body weight. If you don't care to read it then don't comment.

[tp4tissue]

That is all very true, the weight gainers work if you're working out the right muscle groups the right way each week and taking the correct intake of protein and carbs to your body weight. If you don't care to read it then don't comment.

My comment to iri and malphas is completely out of my distaste for their existence, as they are terrible human beings..

My point on the supplements is that muscle gain is 5lbs-10lbs per year no matter what you do..

Most of the time, people on the weight-gainers / meal-replacements just gain a bit of fat in a short time, and they think, wow I'm 5lb m0re of beef cake...

While that couldn't be further from the truth.

[hashbaz]

again, tp4tissue should be blindfolded with a string.

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Just a heads up that even what one might call mild racial insults are out of bounds.  We can discuss racism and race-related public policy here, and get heated with each other, and even accuse each other of racism.  All that is fine.  But personal comments like this that reference race in a rude or derogatory way will be moderated strongly.

[iri]

today i'm on a "**** you diet" diet with four filled ice creams.

[SpAmRaY]

Ice cream is glorious!

[dante]

jesus please kill me ...

cheat meal:

[shared] nachos w/ beans, meat, and white/yellow cheese
bowl of pozole
tripas burrito
1/4 ground beef burrito (wife couldn't finish it)
slice of flan
slice of pumpkin cheesecake
2 cannolis

Holy **** I want to die

[tp4tissue]

jesus please kill me ...

cheat meal:

[shared] nachos w/ beans, meat, and white/yellow cheese
bowl of pozole
tripas burrito
1/4 ground beef burrito (wife couldn't finish it)
slice of flan
slice of pumpkin cheesecake
2 cannolis

Holy **** I want to die

Dante.. The problem is in your mind, not the food itself..

--A "positive" emotional attachment to food..

--An established habit to use Eating as an escape from stress..


This is the typical spiral that some have fallen into which generates the large-body outcome.

You have to analyze in detail your particular situation, and override the reasons behind which you overeat..

Simple will-power to avert yourself from eating is NOT -Enough..  In fact it usually drains you, and further create situations that may stress you towards rebound-eating...

This "cheat meal" idea is exactly that...  you're essentially rubberbanding your eating habits, not "changing them"

[dante]

It's not in my mind: it's according to plan.

I have a cheat meal each week to refill on glucose.  Currently eating twice a day a lean protein + non-starchy vegetables (usually broccoli)

Intermittent fasting between 12pm-7pm and it's working out great!  No more jitters or craving for sugar.  The desserts I did end up having were just 'what the hey' - I definitely could have done without them and will probably never eat sweets again for a while.

[tp4tissue]

It's not in my mind: it's according to plan.

I have a cheat meal each week to refill on glucose.  Currently eating twice a day a lean protein + non-starchy vegetables (usually broccoli)

Intermittent fasting between 12pm-7pm and it's working out great!  No more jitters or craving for sugar.  The desserts I did end up having were just 'what the hey' - I definitely could have done without them and will probably never eat sweets again for a while.

ok.. lets say there's a drug addict trying to quit drugs.. 

he tells himself.. alright, I'm not going to cheat-and-do-drugs  once every month, and stay sober the rest of the time..


10/10 drug addicts fail to abstain, and STAY abstained, by the above method..  This a well documented phenomenon in addiction studies.

This is not to bash your progress..  You're on your way.. that is great.. But having the "cheat-meal" concept "AT-ALL"  is essentially you not-letting-go of food as a vice in your life...

I'm not telling you to stop eating carbs forever,  I'm saying, you have to be careful in rebuilding this "relationship"/ "psychological association" you have with food..

[iri]

i've lost 6kg since march the 3rd.

[demik]

i want to train towards the MS150 next year, since last year I completely blew it off due to work.

I don't even know where to start, other than just riding everyday. I can't get passed the 50 mile mark without almost dying

[iri]

read "The Lance Armstrong Performance Program: Seven Weeks to the Perfect Ride" for a start, eat healthy food, ride regularly, sit straight and don't forget to brush your teeth.

[davkol]

Where's the part about doping?

[iri]

i've skipped testicle surgery as well.

[rowdy]

i've skipped testicle surgery as well.

You have an axe for that, anyway

[SpAmRaY]

Anybody follow a paleo diet?

[hcry4]

Anybody follow a paleo diet?

Keto for me. Went from 195 to 155.