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Offline tp4tissue

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:27:12 »
Its more about maturity level, I think young people can be trusted on geekhack but they have to earn trust, just as people of all ages maturity level needs to be tested.

Honestly I've dealt with some pretty mature young people lately outside of geekhack, it makes me feel bad about myself. I was an immature idiot when i was a teenager up to my early 20's. I wouldn't have done business with me as a teenager, hell no. The career changed me; set me straight.

Well since the only way to earn trust is to PAY on-time.. You can't overcome the intial risk of the first ever deal... I think this is what people are worried about...

But I think that's silly because there's so little money involved..

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:27:54 »
I tend to treat people as I find them..if people can hold a mature and sensible conversation and not behave like idiots then age simply doesn't come into it. If they are selling something like a keycap and send it, again age doesn't seem to make a difference.

I believe a lot of the time you can spot immaturity before you can spot age and the two are not necessarily related.

The only time it might be an issue is if people here are forming a relationship or trying to get one but I am not sure this would be quite the forum for that sort of thing. One some forums I think one would have to be conscious of it but I doubt I am on any of those.


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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 16:38:28 »
Moose, calm down buddy. :P

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 17:30:58 »
Does age matter?  I don't know.  I've found reliable people and clowns of all ages.  I think the habits and behavior of a young person's parents might be a better indicator.  So for all those still living at home, we will need parental profiles before we do business.

you must be a kid, because only kids would thing that were ever possible to enforce over the internet.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 17:39:45 »
The correct answer is: It IS possible. Poor dumb tp4 doesn't know about backtracing.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 18:18:03 »
The correct answer is: It IS possible. Poor dumb tp4 doesn't know about backtracing.

I don't see how you could enforce a parental consent form, unless you skype with the person's parents... In which case,, who would go through the trouble to join this forum.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 22:43:51 »
Who's the oldest GH'er?

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 22:53:06 »
If by "dealing with" you are referring to doing business, then it should not matter too much. People don't change in morality very much.

On the other hand, as an old man, I find that my attitudes, feelings, and passions are very different than they were a few decades ago.

Some things have lost their interest to me, and others have become more important.

Most significantly, I "feel" that the world (ie the human race) has become a much uglier and more cynical place than it was when I was young.


As I said before, I'm 65.  fohat.dig says that he is an "old man"...  Older than I am?  Don't think there's a way to find out who is the oldest Geekhacker.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 31 May 2013, 23:15:37 »
I'm 33 now, but I was a very responsible kid at 16+. I started a business making websites for local businesses in my small town with another guy who was 18. We had an office and everything. Meeting people in person almost never landed us work. Our luck either came from pity or people we let believe we were older. I remember how offended I was to be discriminated against for age at the time. But looking back, I totally understand it. A 16 year old making websites in '96 wasn't the problem, but giving him money from your business is different.  So yeah, age matters. But everyone is different and lots of other factors matter more. Building trust is key... Just might be slower and harder being young.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 03:16:10 »
Kids (seem to) mature faster these days than they did back in the day.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 03:22:57 »
Kids (seem to) mature faster these days than they did back in the day.

I blame the rap music

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 04:54:33 »
Generally, their behavior will tell you more about them than their age. Sure, people under 16 are generally less mature than people over 16, but once you know a little bit about them you can pretty much ignore age, since you have a lot more useful info than such an inaccurate proxy for maturity.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 04:54:45 »
Kids (seem to) mature faster these days than they did back in the day.

I blame the rap music

Just remember that in 50 year's time rap music will be the music all the oldies are listening to.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 05:55:21 »
But officer she looked 16
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 06:41:04 »
Yay!

You guys need to stop buying stickers from me man! ;D

I was underage 2 months ago :p

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 06:41:52 »
Yay!

You guys need to stop buying stickers from me man! ;D

I was underage 2 months ago :p
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 06:43:36 »
Yay!

You guys need to stop buying stickers from me man! ;D

I was underage 2 months ago :p
That business plan doesn't make much sense friend.

What business plan?  :confused: :confused:

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When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 10:00:40 »
Kids (seem to) mature faster these days than they did back in the day.
Really?  Seems like there are (still) plenty of immature ones, and immature adults as well.  I have had moments where I was tempted  to make a claim opposite to yours, now I simply think that the Internet has made it easier to spot maturity (or a lack of it) regardless of age.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 10:07:03 »
(Did tapatalk steal my leading "R"?)

I have been noticing these oddities lately in tapatalk as well....and many smilies that don't work properly....

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 22:41:00 »
(Did tapatalk steal my leading "R"?)

I have been noticing these oddities lately in tapatalk as well....and many smilies that don't work properly....


I have seen the same thing as well. btw I am 32

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 23:12:54 »
Generally, their behavior will tell you more about their parents than their age.
FTFY

As an aside, I really hope no one under 18 has run a group buy. But even then there's been a few college students who have run group buys here and got lost in their studies (I cannot fathom how college students cannot dedicate even an hour or two a week to dealing with their GBs - I was no slouch of a student and I still had loads of free time). That sort of stuff should be really left to adults who can better gauge whether or not they can devote the time to running these community operations.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 01 June 2013, 23:20:05 »
I would prefer to do business with an adult. Just preference. Had some interesting deals on ocn with youngsters. That said I think my first deal on here was with small fry which was about 2 years ago maybe?

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 02 June 2013, 01:16:49 »
Yes, it was a little over a year and a half now. I bought a Leopold with Clears from ya. I thin that the payment was quick, and I was very happy with the purchase. :)

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:14:25 »
Yes it went smooth no problems there. And now I'm interested in clears again lol.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 02 June 2013, 10:26:40 »
We're talking about age ? Hmmm .... I have on my desk now a 30 years old keyboard and a 2 months old one. I like and use both.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:18:49 »
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 03 June 2013, 05:34:58 »
Generally, their behavior will tell you more about their parents than their age.
FTFY

As an aside, I really hope no one under 18 has run a group buy. But even then there's been a few college students who have run group buys here and got lost in their studies (I cannot fathom how college students cannot dedicate even an hour or two a week to dealing with their GBs - I was no slouch of a student and I still had loads of free time). That sort of stuff should be really left to adults who can better gauge whether or not they can devote the time to running these community operations.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 09:21:46 »
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We have a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 10:31:38 »
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We have a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30.

Is that the bowel movement?

Proud to be "way" over 30...

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 11:43:28 »
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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 14:51:11 »
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We have a saying in the movement that we don't trust anybody over 30.

Is that the bowel movement?

Proud to be "way" over 30...

There was a punk song that ended with something like "never trust anyone over ten", let me find it...

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 15:01:09 »
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:22:04 »
under 18, i hate you.

over 40, i hate you.

unless i like you, then i don't hate you.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:04:29 »
Thanks fohat.digs. For about ten years  I've been trying to identify that movie and song. For some reason I thought the song was performed by Paul Revere and the Raiders.

I seem to remember liking the movie back when I was 13.  But I also thought Billy Jack was Oscar worthy back then.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:30:49 »
Thanks fohat.digs. For about ten years  I've been trying to identify that movie and song. For some reason I thought the song was performed by Paul Revere and the Raiders.

I seem to remember liking the movie back when I was 13.  But I also thought Billy Jack was Oscar worthy back then.

Max Frost and the Troopers was not a real band, but that song, utter classic! I still have the original 45 from 1969.

I am a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, but I cringe at how weak and predictable Billy Jack was. Even the martial art scenes were too short and tame.

The TV show "Kung Fu" was really outstanding, however, probably because it had dozens of episodes to really develop.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 08 June 2013, 00:31:12 »
No. Tinlong was (is?) a kid and I went with his first GB he ever did with the poker and that was probably one of the most seamless GBs I've partook in. Currently dealing with TP who is in his 20s and it is a nightmare.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 11 June 2013, 07:41:20 »
under 18, i hate you.

over 40, i hate you.

unless i like you, then i don't hate you.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #89 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 10:40:41 »
under 18, i hate you.

over 40, i hate you.

unless i like you, then i don't hate you.

I understand this now

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #90 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 10:57:53 »
under 18, i hate you.

over 40, i hate you.

unless i like you, then i don't hate you.

I understand this now

enlighten.. I no get...


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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 19 October 2013, 10:59:32 »
under 18, i hate you.

over 40, i hate you.

unless i like you, then i don't hate you.

I understand this now

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 14:07:59 »
I don't care how old you are just so long as you use Windows.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 22 December 2013, 20:38:29 »
Bump for relevance.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 23 December 2013, 03:13:34 »
You're only as old as your behaviour on the 'net.

It's funny, I always associate beards with "old" people. Realise it's something from my childhood, but I still assumed Spamray is "really old" (tm) due to the bearded avatars he uses. Now I discover we're both "in our 30's".

IMO, age is a factor, but it's maturity that matters. Of course the older you are, the more you know (generally speaking) and the less likely you are to be naive, ignorant or immature. In most cases, dealing with a young person who is mature is fine, unless their lack of experience affects things.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 23 December 2013, 03:28:02 »
You're only as old as your behaviour on the 'net.

It's funny, I always associate beards with "old" people. Realise it's something from my childhood, but I still assumed Spamray is "really old" (tm) due to the bearded avatars he uses. Now I discover we're both "in our 30's".

IMO, age is a factor, but it's maturity that matters. Of course the older you are, the more you know (generally speaking) and the less likely you are to be naive, ignorant or immature. In most cases, dealing with a young person who is mature is fine, unless their lack of experience affects things.

SpAmRaY's only in his 30s?

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 23 December 2013, 03:36:26 »
Well I'm probably among the youngest here at 17 but still I haven't felt like someone has looked down upon me here because of my age.
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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 23 December 2013, 03:37:05 »
It's funny, I always associate beards with "old" people. Realise it's something from my childhood, but I still assumed Spamray is "really old" (tm) due to the bearded avatars he uses. Now I discover we're both "in our 30's".
i'm in my 20's.

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Re: When dealing with other geekhackers does age matter?
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 23 December 2013, 03:39:02 »
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