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ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:13:37 »
Massdrop is now rerunning the ErgoDox kit group buy for round 3! Same URL as round 1 this time:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox/

Here's the original thread where ErgoDox was developed and build/customization discussions are ongoing:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=22780

FWIW, here's mine that I just finished building from round 1:

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:15:14 »
Jesus, 3 rounds already!
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:18:13 »
I'm not tempted because I know I don't have the money for it, even though I really want it.

Well, I guess I'll have to wait until round 42!
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:19:24 »
I'm not tempted because I know I don't have the money for it, even though I really want it.

Well, I guess I'll have to wait until round 42!

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:19:48 »
Do they have different options for the case this time? I don't see it anywhere.

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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:21:54 »
Wait, is $274 the current price or the original price?

If it goes past 55% off, I might get one.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:24:46 »
Wait, is $274 the current price or the original price?

If it goes past 55% off, I might get one.

That's current price. If you'll pay $200, do commit to buy. You'll only be charged if it hits that tier, and it will help get closer to that price.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:26:33 »
Ergodox with LED?! OH YESSSSSS!!!!! I would be in heaven if it comes with green switches... but that's too much to ask I afraid.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:31:03 »
I wish I had a spare $200.  They seem like awesome keyboards and I do love soldering and doing work on my keyboard.

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:32:51 »
I wish I had a spare $200.  They seem like awesome keyboards and I do love soldering and doing work on my keyboard.

It was my first time building a board from scratch. I put over half the diodes on backwards. Don't know how I got it working in the end. Feels good though, even though I've never gotten used to it yet though. The linear greys in it are quite a workout too! :p
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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:33:52 »
for ****s sake massdrop, let me view the ****ing page without having to make a damn account
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:35:21 »
for ****s sake massdrop, let me view the ****ing page without having to make a damn account

Hmmmm, no. Want me to be your eyes? I'm a jive sucker who signed up.
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:36:34 »
yes! price!

wait somebody mentioned the price.

nvm. massdrop can keep their ****ty page.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:37:23 »
I wish I had a spare $200.  They seem like awesome keyboards and I do love soldering and doing work on my keyboard.

It was my first time building a board from scratch. I put over half the diodes on backwards. Don't know how I got it working in the end. Feels good though, even though I've never gotten used to it yet though. The linear greys in it are quite a workout too! :p

I haven't had to deal with diodes yet.  My RK9000RE rebuild was all switches and PCB land bypasses or repairs and my GH60 will have them pre-done since I didn't have access to a hot air station.  I would imagine that could be frustrating. 

I have been looking into some of the PCB share things where you can share PCB space with other people and get it cut down and sent to you for a lot cheaper than sending it out on your own.  If I can find a good deal, I'll be looking into trying to figure out how to make a proper matrix and making my own keyboard.  I suck at electrical work, so it will be a long project, but something fun to keep me busy.

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:40:00 »
for ****s sake massdrop, let me view the ****ing page without having to make a damn account

Make a fake account using a temporary email address?
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:40:13 »
Do they have different options for the case this time? I don't see it anywhere.
Just the option for classic vs. full-hand (w/ palm rests), both in acrylic only. I reckon if you preferred to 3D print the alternative case or roll your own, you could contact Massdrop to omit the acrylic case from your kit for a discount ($~80 off, IIRC?). The aluminum cases were a debacle in round 1, major issues with fit and finish, and the supplier misestimated the production cost and quoted double to rerun them, so they won't be offered again.

Wait, is $274 the current price or the original price?

If it goes past 55% off, I might get one.
$274 is the original and still-current price at the current buy-in volume. Notice there's a timeline showing what discounts kick in at various buy-in milestones. You can also "Commit to join at $199.00" only if we reach the minimum 100 buy-ins required for that price.

for ****s sake massdrop, let me view the ****ing page without having to make a damn account
That's just inherent to how Massdrop has to operate as a "buyer club", so they don't get treated as a regular retailer for tax purposes. I think you can at least view the Assembly instructions without a login:
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:41:34 »
yes! price!

wait somebody mentioned the price.

nvm. massdrop can keep their ****ty page.

Oh you :p

And Nubs, I thought the diodes prepared me....I was wrong. The size of resistors for my incoming LZ-GH are small enough to make me cry myself to sleep. I'll need a case of beer and a carton of smokes to finish that one! Hehe
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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:43:30 »
Would anyone want to trade switches if I do buy an ergodox? I really want green switches!
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:46:14 »
Would anyone want to trade switches if I do buy an ergodox? I really want green switches!

I'm sure someone will trade if you grab the clear switches.

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:48:23 »
Hope they offer keycaps again
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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:51:11 »
I'm tempted to buy again since I love my ErgoDox. I can also offer an assembly service this time around if anyone is interested.

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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 17:59:36 »
Just the option for classic vs. full-hand (w/ palm rests), both in acrylic only. I reckon if you preferred to 3D print the alternative case or roll your own, you could contact Massdrop to omit the acrylic case from your kit for a discount ($~80 off, IIRC?). The aluminum cases were a debacle in round 1, major issues with fit and finish, and the supplier misestimated the production cost and quoted double to rerun them, so they won't be offered again.

What would be the price for the 3d printed case then?
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:04:10 »
I was planning on picking up one of those imsto cases but now this pops up  :-\

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:08:13 »
Hope they offer keycaps again

Blank black PBT DSA caps are a $37 upgrade option when you commit to buy-in for the kit.

Just the option for classic vs. full-hand (w/ palm rests), both in acrylic only. I reckon if you preferred to 3D print the alternative case or roll your own, you could contact Massdrop to omit the acrylic case from your kit for a discount ($~80 off, IIRC?). The aluminum cases were a debacle in round 1, major issues with fit and finish, and the supplier misestimated the production cost and quoted double to rerun them, so they won't be offered again.

What would be the price for the 3d printed case then?

Pretty cheap if you already own or have access to a 3D printer, but horridly expensive if you want a retail 3D print service to do it for you; IIRC, Shapeways quoted nearly $200! That's why Massdrop's kit only offers the acrylic layer-cake case.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:32:05 »
Wait, is $274 the current price or the original price?

If it goes past 55% off, I might get one.

That's current price. If you'll pay $200, do commit to buy. You'll only be charged if it hits that tier, and it will help get closer to that price.
I think I might do that.  However, does this GB come with assembly, or should I have it sent to someone else to build it?

EDIT: And more importantly, does it work on a Mac?
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:36:29 »
Hope they offer keycaps again

Blank black PBT DSA caps are a $37 upgrade option when you commit to buy-in for the kit.

Just the option for classic vs. full-hand (w/ palm rests), both in acrylic only. I reckon if you preferred to 3D print the alternative case or roll your own, you could contact Massdrop to omit the acrylic case from your kit for a discount ($~80 off, IIRC?). The aluminum cases were a debacle in round 1, major issues with fit and finish, and the supplier misestimated the production cost and quoted double to rerun them, so they won't be offered again.

What would be the price for the 3d printed case then?

Pretty cheap if you already own or have access to a 3D printer, but horridly expensive if you want a retail 3D print service to do it for you; IIRC, Shapeways quoted nearly $200! That's why Massdrop's kit only offers the acrylic layer-cake case.

I heard mkawa is buying a 3d printer, wonder if he would care to made me one...
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 18:49:59 »
If anyone is getting a kit let me know! I need a set of the keycaps.
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 19:08:36 »
Maybe the Prof will offer to build these...
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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:02:24 »
More of my cases will be out in the wild.  The aluminum case sucked.  Looks like they won't make it this time.

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:47:43 »
Maybe the Prof will offer to build these...

I honestly think the assembly service was ridiculously cheap given the labor involved...

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:52:28 »
Maybe the Prof will offer to build these...

I honestly think the assembly service was ridiculously cheap given the labor involved...

Not sure if you picked up on it, but I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm about the current state about the Phantom assembly offered by Prof and what the Ergodox assembly by him is starting to look like.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:52:11 »
Maybe the Prof will offer to build these...

I honestly think the assembly service was ridiculously cheap given the labor involved...

Not sure if you picked up on it, but I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm about the current state about the Phantom assembly offered by Prof and what the Ergodox assembly by him is starting to look like.

I'm not up to date on that, what's happening?

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 03:56:38 »
weeeee my guess is this one wont do as well as round 1 and 2, but we shall see

More of my cases will be out in the wild.  The aluminum case sucked.  Looks like they won't make it this time.

they didnt make them in round 2 either

and hey those with the aluminium cases are pretty happy with them after sanding and such, see kurplop and rkinze and others.



its actually better now than pictured too, i sanded the sides some and have silver bolts now. just need to get a better camera.

your case lives on i just don't like the clear acrylic at all, black or red or blue would be tight or a mix or multiple colors with your ergodox design.....i forgot why they went with just clear for all 3 rounds.....i just hate it...it makes the ergodox uglier than with a flat color.

i have a 3rd ergodox not built and i think i may design my own case just so i dont have 3 ergodox that look all the same.

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 06:59:00 »


your case lives on i just don't like the clear acrylic at all, black or red or blue would be tight or a mix or multiple colors with your ergodox design.....i forgot why they went with just clear for all 3 rounds.....i just hate it...it makes the ergodox uglier than with a flat color.

Same here, just getting a lister case custom cut in black/white since it's open source too.


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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 07:08:14 »
is it worth getting the caps?  does it include anything extras that a standard set wouldnt have?
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 07:13:03 »
is it worth getting the caps?  does it include anything extras that a standard set wouldnt have?

It does. No non standard keys exactly(don't think anyway), just non standard amounts. So unless you wanna buy like four sets, one made for edox is your best bet.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 14 June 2013, 07:16:37 »
is it worth getting the caps?  does it include anything extras that a standard set wouldnt have?

It does. No non standard keys exactly(don't think anyway), just non standard amounts. So unless you wanna buy like four sets, one made for edox is your best bet.

exactly what i was looking for.  thank you sir!
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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 12:29:16 »
Classic case or full hand? What do you prefer?

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:37:29 »
Who do I talk to if I want to omit the case? (planning to somehow 3d-print one)
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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:39:44 »
Who do I talk to if I want to omit the case? (planning to somehow 3d-print one)

there's the chat option on the massdrop site..

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« Reply #40 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 13:44:13 »
is it worth getting the caps?  does it include anything extras that a standard set wouldnt have?

It does. No non standard keys exactly(don't think anyway), just non standard amounts. So unless you wanna buy like four sets, one made for edox is your best bet.

exactly what i was looking for.  thank you sir!

It's much less trouble to just get the DSA set.. However, the base keys outside of the 2x length thumb keys arn't that great. (preference)

I prefer oem or cherry profile because the dsa has less length wise vertical surface area.. this makes touch typing more precision intensive..  That is to say it's less effort-ful to type on oem or dcs /cherry profile keys.



Id much prefer getting a custom set from WASD oem profile. they may be abs, but as long as you get any color other than black, shine doesn't look bad at all.. shine is only ugly on black.
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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 14:14:37 »
weeeee my guess is this one wont do as well as round 1 and 2, but we shall see

More of my cases will be out in the wild.  The aluminum case sucked.  Looks like they won't make it this time.

they didnt make them in round 2 either

and hey those with the aluminium cases are pretty happy with them after sanding and such, see kurplop and rkinze and others.

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its actually better now than pictured too, i sanded the sides some and have silver bolts now. just need to get a better camera.

your case lives on i just don't like the clear acrylic at all, black or red or blue would be tight or a mix or multiple colors with your ergodox design.....i forgot why they went with just clear for all 3 rounds.....i just hate it...it makes the ergodox uglier than with a flat color.

i have a 3rd ergodox not built and i think i may design my own case just so i dont have 3 ergodox that look all the same.



Your mod looks excellent.  Nice job!

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 15 June 2013, 17:48:28 »
I prefer oem or cherry profile because the dsa has less length wise vertical surface area.. this makes touch typing more precision intensive..  That is to say it's less effort-ful to type on oem or dcs /cherry profile keys.

Id much prefer getting a custom set from WASD oem profile. they may be abs, but as long as you get any color other than black, shine doesn't look bad at all.. shine is only ugly on black.

I just scavenged a set of labeled POM caps from a used Cherry G81-7000 I got on eBay for like $~25; this guy has like 280 of them in stock. This model happens to have 1x modifier keys suitable for the ErgoDox, and its otherwise-terrible MY switches use MX-compatible caps. The F and J homing caps are "deep scoop" rather than having a raised line or dot. Then I just completed my ErgoDox set (as shown in the first post above) with some blank caps from Signature Plastics; FWIW, I got (8 ) 1.5x Row 2, (1) 2x Row 3, and (1) 2x Row 4 Vertical.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 22 June 2013, 18:15:46 »
FYI - PBT blank caps are up on MassDrop as a separate buy here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox-keycap

Currently at $58 with 5 days remaining - not sure why the time is shorter than the ergodox (7 days left)...

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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 14:43:58 »
So I didn't pay any attention to these before but I noticed R3 has reached $199.99 if anyone is interested, 5 days left.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:31:29 »
Which case do you prefer? I cant decide..........

Offline jdeblese

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 24 June 2013, 17:20:12 »
FYI - PBT blank caps are up on MassDrop as a separate buy here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox-keycap

Currently at $58 with 5 days remaining - not sure why the time is shorter than the ergodox (7 days left)...

Probably so that people could have certainty about whether they'd be able to get these DCS caps or would have to take the DSA caps with the 'dox buy.

Offline xmagusx

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 30 June 2013, 17:55:06 »
Random question since this will be my first time soldering in quite some time -- roughly how much (weight, length, whatever) solder should be needed for this project?

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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 30 June 2013, 18:30:54 »
Random question since this will be my first time soldering in quite some time -- roughly how much (weight, length, whatever) solder should be needed for this project?

check this thread out, it has all the suggested materials for keyboard kit soldering

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42824.0

i would also suggest buying a kit such as the elenco basic kit and surface mount kit, it is worth the practice.
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Re: ErgoDox round 3 GB is ON at Massdrop!
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 07 July 2013, 09:37:22 »
Massdrop notified me of an error charging my money on exactly the same day group buy 3 ends. And now the Massdrop cuts me off!!!!!! I got in early and everyday watched the number slowly grows with anticipation. And only I fail to respond in one single day and I'm cutoff. I've ordered enough switches for my dox in another group buy, but there will be no ergodox for me to install those switches into. Let's vote for the 4th group buy. :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(  :-(
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