Are people too whiny nowadays?

[The_Beast]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

[sobe]

I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

[Fragil1ty]

Oh look at this, looks as if I'm becoming something of a celebrity around these parts, well this is ****ing cute.

Glorify me, worship me, I am your god, your superior.

I am the omega.

I lol'dBut seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

The fanboyism is real.WINDUWS IS BEBST 4eva heueueueu

[The_Beast]

I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

To what thread are you referring to? I must be out of the loop

[sobe]

LOL, I suppose severe coincidence with the title?

[SpAmRaY]

yo beast how bout some switch tools?

[Badwrench]

It's only going to get worse.  The first batch of high-schoolers to graduate from the "no-one left behind" rules are now trying to get into college and are blaming their teachers that they can't pass the basic entrance exams. 

[Fragil1ty]

It's only going to get worse.  The first batch of high-schoolers to graduate from the "no-one left behind" rules are now trying to get into college and are blaming their teachers that they can't pass the basic entrance exams.

Evidently you did not pass high school either, with that piss poor sentence structure.

[The_Beast]

I lol'd

But seriously, that was a dumb thread IMO. Noone forces anyone to buy an overpriced brand and get half of what you'd get elsewhere for a cheaper price.

He just needs to wait it out for that one person to bid his price, all there is to it.

To what thread are you referring to? I must be out of the loop

Evidently you must be a cum loving ****, 10/10.

That's not nice

[engicoder]

I think it started whenever this change occurred.

[tp4tissue]

um...

Man is wholly selfish.. this is by design..  you are made to be an independent little system..


Now.. whether or NOT you will decide to adopt the outward appearance of cooperative attitude depends on your need for it..

Beautiful woman.. why do so many of these have attitude issues...  Well, it's cuz their value as breeding stock is far greater than their value as conversationalists ...


There fore...  we allow, everyone allows them to simply think and say whatever, as long as the elegible male gets good children out of her..


The same could happen for a man, but less likely so, because of the nature and resource type distribution when it comes to breeding. 

[azhdar]

I think it started whenever this change occurred.

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so much this

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Attention mods, situation on isle 11. Well now that that's taken care of...

Frag, seriously, stop. You're only making it worse for yourself, and making it all the more entertaining to the rest of us.

Take a step back, calm the **** down, and try having an open mind. Reassess, and come back when you can post something that isn't blatantly disrespectful.

[heedpantsnow]

Wow. In before lock.

[Fire Brand]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

[tp4tissue]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

It comes down to economics..

THe average standard of living has continued to rise..   THUS people have time for stuff OTHER than base survival..


between  base survival,,  and the seek for intellectual enlightenment..

THe miDDle  is when you whine about lots  of stuff you don't understand...



Natural progression.. !!

[The_Beast]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

[tp4tissue]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..



for example many kids who do poorly in calculus  actually suck at algebra..   they don't need help with calculus,   they need help with algebra..

[The_Beast]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

[The Mad Professor]

As I posted elsewhere:

The world owes you absolutely jack ****. I firmly believe that you should fight for everything you want and ****ing earn it.

Nobody give a flying monkey's **** if you are a special snowflake. The workforce will not cater to your namby-pamby sensitive nature or to your special skills. They don't care if you're a genius or an idiot. They don't care if you're a bachelor or married with three kids and a fourth on the way. You either do the ****ing job, or you're out on your ass. Period.

Also, when you have bills to pay and/or a family to feed, there is no goddamned job that is beneath you.

Life WILL throw obstacles into your path. That is the nature of things. It's up to you to suck it up and decide whether those obstacles will be roadblocks or stepping stones.

[Signature]

I miss Paicrai 

[jdcarpe]

Thread should be titled "Are people too stupid nowadays?"

And the answer is yes. Unfortunately, as a species we have no qualifications testing for breeding rights, so the problem perpetuates itself.

[tp4tissue]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

there are many forms of left behind...

the specific thing I'm talking about is  teaching kids HOW to learn, and also importantly WHY they need to learn THIS WAY..


You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..



HERE do math...   look, solve like this... < this is all they give kids..

How it should be..

Ferrari costs 2.5 million,   you have this much time in your life to earn enough to afford one,  once you buy it,  You will get THIS MUCH ****...



Want some motivation to do math??

[frosty]

I'm sorry but I imagined this community to have a strong bond between members.

I still really don't get why this kind of things happen. Sorry for my ignorance but I myself am pretty passive so I wouldn't know much.

[tp4tissue]

I'm sorry but I imagined this community to have a strong bond between members.

I still really don't get why this kind of things happen. Sorry for my ignorance but I myself am pretty passive so I wouldn't know much.

Dude.. kids man.. they do this.. let them do this..  they will do this enough, then find that it is NOT the optimal solution to their appeal,  and Change for the better..

[Fire Brand]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

Ahh right now I understand, I have to say I myself am guilty of doing this, I'm not sure what you would be able to do just telling them to read the instructions and ignoring them is out of the question I honestly don't think there would be much I could say, although my opinion of what to do would be to ask them to try to do what they think is right, then just drop hints on what to do without doing what he wants you to which would be babying him and telling him what to do :/

Also going off on a tangent if your name is Mr Beast, best, School, Teacher, Name, EVER "Ohh what class you got today, ohh you know (Insert class) with Mr Beast!"

[The_Beast]

You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..

Teaching people how to think is a dangerous game, you have to leave room for imagination (in your lego scenario). Kids are NOT dumb, throw legos at them, they'll figure out their own way to play with them.

If you really want to debate education, learn some facts about it instead of using off hand "knowledge" you overheard on a bus.

How it should be..

Ferrari costs 2.5 million,   you have this much time in your life to earn enough to afford one,  once you buy it,  You will get THIS MUCH ****...

**** like this, makes you look so ****ing stupid, it's unreal. No teacher in there right mind is going to teach kids, "buy a Ferrari, get ****"

[tp4tissue]

You can throw a bunch of legos  at some kid...  but my point is ...  simply throwing a bunch of stuff at him is not enough..

you gotta show him that..   hey this is a toy,  you play with it.. <-  this is missing from much of the education system..

Teaching people how to think is a dangerous game, you have to leave room for imagination (in your lego scenario). Kids are NOT dumb, throw legos at them, they'll figure out their own way to play with them.

If you really want to debate education, learn some facts about it instead of using off hand "knowledge" you overheard on a bus.

My teaching experience comes from predominantly Piano. I've also taught english to geriatric Chinese immigrants to pass their citizenship exams.


At every corner.. They were missing fundamentals....

Kids whose parents push them to play the basic Fur Elise..  and they can't do it..   I get this kid,  oh he can't read sheet music or at all understand time signatures..    wonder why he couldn't play Fur Elise..


You see.. the parents THREW the piano at this kid, luckily he didn't die.. but there's a threshold for how much you can FIGURE OUT without guidance..

[tp4tissue]

**** like this, makes you look so ****ing stupid, it's unreal. No teacher in there right mind is going to teach kids, "buy a Ferrari, get ****"

Maybe they fvking Should..  because that's the Primary if not ONLY purpose of a Ferrari over say a BMW, and they sell really really well. 

[The_Beast]

I'm sorry if this appears as a rant and what not, but i'm just a little bit frustrated really.

Everyone thinks they're a special snowflake that is better than everyone else. "Well I deserve this because it's me, but that other guy, no, he doesn't deserve what I deserve", "Thinks didn't go my way, I'm going to complain about it to make myself feel better", "I'm always right, never in the wrong", "I'm so smart, other people are dumbies", "I did something moderately well, everyone should praise me on how well I did"

I'll admit I act like an entitled butt most of the time, and would love to say I don't but I'm pretty sure I do :/

I personally think with how I was raised I didn't get everything I wanted as my parents where very good about making me earns things, but I do think with how people are raised now with getting all these gizmos and what not most will be more and more annoying.

But what context is this to be put in just people in general?

People in general. I'm student teaching at a school. If a student doesn't get something right away, they put up their hand and ask me. Which is fine. However, one student in particular, "Mr. Beast, I don't know what to do" "(me), Well, did you read the instructions" "(them) Well, no, but I still don't know what to do"

It's annoying to be asked to read something that's right in front of them AND have had the teacher explain what to do 5 minutes earlier.

And, no, I don't have a problem with students asking questions. But the whole "no question is dumb" is kinda a farce.

Ahh right now I understand, I have to say I myself am guilty of doing this, I'm not sure what you would be able to do just telling them to read the instructions and ignoring them is out of the question I honestly don't think there would be much I could say, although my opinion of what to do would be to ask them to try to do what they think is right, then just drop hints on what to do without doing what he wants you to which would be babying him and telling him what to do :/

Also going off on a tangent if your name is Mr Beast, best, School, Teacher, Name, EVER "Ohh what class you got today, ohh you know (Insert class) with Mr Beast!"

I don't ignore them, I ask them to read or reread the instructions and if it's still unclear, raise your hand and I'll do my very best to explain what it is they should be doing. In fact, after asking them to read/reread the instructions, I've never had to go back and explain what to do. Simply reading the instructions was enough to tell them what they should be doing.


Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.

[strict]

THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

tp4 = word vomit machine

[tp4tissue]

THis is why you're a ****ty teacher..


Has it ever occured to you that   kids need to LEARN how TO- LEARN.


given how poorly funded public education is...  it's not a wonder why some kids were left behind.. even in the most basic sense..


Indeed no dumb question is a dumb question..   ONLY a good teacher (not you, YET)   would know the right answer may not necessarily be a direct implication,  rather a step back to address fundamental misgivings..

Your response is laughable considering I doubt you know anything about education.

This kid is extremely smart, but he doesn't apply himself. It seems like he expect me to stand there, read instructions to him as he does his work. It's very basic reading and researching/finding answers. I doubt this kid is "left behind"

tp4 = word vomit machine

But it's good vomit..

[Lurch]

Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.

This is the pain I go through with my job every day. I usually have to hand out those answers regardless...

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

Thread should be titled "Are people too stupid nowadays?"

And the answer is yes. Unfortunately, as a species we have no qualifications testing for breeding rights, so the problem perpetuates itself.

My sentiments exactly. Spoken like a truly logical being.

[heedpantsnow]

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

[hcry4]

Honestly, I think they're just expecting me to answer questions they could find in 2 minutes of reading, and I refuse to blatantly hand out answers to things that can easily be found.

This is the pain I go through with my job every day. I usually have to hand out those answers regardless...

Yea, I've had that experience as well.

[slip84]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

[HoffmanMyster]

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Aww couldn't you have picked 91 as your cut off year? 

[heedpantsnow]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

Lol

[HoffmanMyster]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

LOL I like you.

[paicrai]

[Fire Brand]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

Not going to lie you got me then.

I see what you did there

I see

[SpAmRaY]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

[saturnotaku]

given how poorly funded public education is...

Tell that to my property tax bill.

The school district I live in spends more than $10,000/year per student, whereas the local private and parochial schools cost a fraction of that yet they consistently kick the public school to the curb in testing.

[The_Beast]

I won't lie. I've not read through this thread yet. Does anyone mind summing it up for me?

Thanks.

You're my new favorite student


^___^

[tp4tissue]

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

[The_Beast]

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

[saturnotaku]

(****ty pay) I get it.. 

Uh-huh.

When these folks retire, their pensions will be 70% of their salaries.

[Computer-Lab in Basement]

tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

Take everything tp says with a pound of salt. He's basically a moron with a large vocabulary and narcissistic tendencies...

[tp4tissue]

I've done a bit of teaching, mainly specialized skills in BSA, a bit of university seminars, and some other venues. It does seem like as time goes on students expect more and more that the answer or paradigm will be simply given to them, without any effort on their part. It's particularly potent with those born after 1989-90 (sorry if that offends anyone). Many times I've asked a student what they think about a concept, and they reply "I don't know just tell me the answer".  It's worrisome to say the least.

No need to call each other names, maybe it's better if we have a calm, honest discussion about this?

Teachers exist before the birth of the students..


So, if you're a teacher, and you find that a student sucks,  it's the fault of EVERY teacher that student had before you had him..

and those teacher's failures are of the teacher's teacher's failures..

It goes on forever...

UNTIL SOMEONE TODAY...   stops and says OK,  let's go back, let me teach you some basics.. you missed it..


SO FEW teachers are willing to do this.. (****ty pay) I get it..    but come here and whine about students,  you're freaking adults..  do something about it that isn't just you being every bit an entitled Brat as the student you're pointing at..

Looking at you -beast

How can you teacher a student who just doesn't care. The most amazing teacher won't be able to reach that student.

Half of what you're saying is untrue. I'll admit, not all teachers are great, but that can  be said about any profession. HOWEVER, a lot of teachers do reflect on their lesson plans. "hey, this didn't work with my students, what would make it better"


tp, stfu about stuff you don't know about. Stop arguing for arguments sake.

have you asked.. why doesn't that student care...  no one has reached him.. why is that...


You're the type of teacher that's the problem with America..  It's never your fault.. always someone elses.


My point is, it's not relevant to discuss whose fault it is....  what can we DO about the situation at hand..


I know enough about teaching, having gone through primary education with teachers JUST LIKE YOU..


-Dispassionate to say the least




Beast.. I respect you as a great member of our KB community.. but your attitude towards students, i find consistent with the unaccountability that I've experienced from nearly ALL my compulsory education teachers with the exception of very few professors in cledge