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Offline Maledicted

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5400 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 08:56:57 »
Custom keyboards are overrated and a waste of money.

I fundamentally agree, unless you need/want a weird layout that just isn't available commercially. Compact full sizes or larger than full sizes just aren't very common nor good commercially as far as I know, or left sided num pads.
And switches, don’t forget switches.
A lot of the great switches are not available in most prebuilt keyboards.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5401 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 09:06:18 »
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« Reply #5402 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 10:56:42 »
Custom keyboards are overrated and a waste of money.

I fundamentally agree, unless you need/want a weird layout that just isn't available commercially. Compact full sizes or larger than full sizes just aren't very common nor good commercially as far as I know, or left sided num pads.
And switches, don’t forget switches.
A lot of the great switches are not available in most prebuilt keyboards.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5403 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 14:36:34 »
means put whatever keys you want in prefab board, i think

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5404 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 14:53:29 »
means put whatever keys you want in prefab board, i think

I was just illustrating the point. It is fun to swap random modern switches into old (common/undesirable) boards. The "Aristotle" switches in it felt terrible. Most weren't even clicky anymore.

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« Reply #5405 on: Wed, 17 February 2021, 17:55:18 »
Thought that keeps popping up:

I don’t understand why artisan collaborations for keycaps sets have nothing to do with the theme but for the colourway. A keycap sculpted to look like a cat or a dog or a bull or whatever in a dozen different colours for different keycap sets doesn’t feel like a collaboration to me, just an excuse to reuse the same molds.

I realise that a lot of work goes into developing  the concept for an artisan and turning it into a usable mold and have nothing against these designers continuing to profit from their work of course - it just baffles me when I see it.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5406 on: Wed, 17 February 2021, 18:56:06 »
Thought that keeps popping up:

I don’t understand why artisan collaborations for keycaps sets have nothing to do with the theme but for the colourway. A keycap sculpted to look like a cat or a dog or a bull or whatever in a dozen different colours for different keycap sets doesn’t feel like a collaboration to me, just an excuse to reuse the same molds.

I realise that a lot of work goes into developing  the concept for an artisan and turning it into a usable mold and have nothing against these designers continuing to profit from their work of course - it just baffles me when I see it.

The majority of artisans are just reused sculpts with different colors though...

I think ultimately the point is to hype up a keyset.  Like im some designer who's making a questionable keyset design, but I have artisan FrankTheTank oboard and making color matched artisans. It makes the set more desirable in that apsect.  At least thats how I see it. 

I dont entirely disagree with your statement though.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5407 on: Thu, 18 February 2021, 08:14:22 »
This may have been covered... but the current trend of "EVERYTHING BLACK BY DEFAULT" is just as bad, if not worse, than "EVERYTHING BEIGE BY DEFAULT" and "EVERYTHING GREY BY DEFAULT." I'm talking about everyday keyboards and computer equipment, not specialist stuff.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5408 on: Thu, 18 February 2021, 09:44:20 »
well at least black does not yellow with age, and there are more and more color options nowadays, although often the cheapest option is the black one.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5409 on: Thu, 18 February 2021, 10:47:56 »
This may have been covered... but the current trend of "EVERYTHING BLACK BY DEFAULT" is just as bad, if not worse, than "EVERYTHING BEIGE BY DEFAULT" and "EVERYTHING GREY BY DEFAULT." I'm talking about everyday keyboards and computer equipment, not specialist stuff.

I used to hate ye olde computer equipment being all beige, before I became interested in vintage keyboards (this came before any cursory interest in vintage computers). It has grown on me. Now I think of it as a fun novelty, if nothing else, to have some bizarre old beige slab on my desk for people to be confused by. I can especially appreciate the aesthetics of an "industrial gray" keyboard with pearl and pebble caps now.

The interesting thing to me is how long this trend of all black has gone on. There was a small period of time, in the early 2000s, where silver (or silver and black) was the cool thing. Previously the beige craze seemed to be started by IBM at the close of the 70s (though there was still some variation in the 80s).

Personally, I don't mind. As Henry Ford once said, "Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black." I quite like black, so that works for me.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5410 on: Thu, 18 February 2021, 11:29:29 »

I used to hate ye olde computer equipment being all beige, before I became interested in vintage keyboards (this came before any cursory interest in vintage computers). It has grown on me. Now I think of it as a fun novelty, if nothing else, to have some bizarre old beige slab on my desk for people to be confused by. I can especially appreciate the aesthetics of an "industrial gray" keyboard with pearl and pebble caps now.

The interesting thing to me is how long this trend of all black has gone on. There was a small period of time, in the early 2000s, where silver (or silver and black) was the cool thing. Previously the beige craze seemed to be started by IBM at the close of the 70s (though there was still some variation in the 80s).

Personally, I don't mind. As Henry Ford once said, "Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black." I quite like black, so that works for me.

But see, industrial grey isn't boring. It's the best, and I will fistfight anyone that disagrees. I mean, I WON'T but I'll say I will on the internet and that's just as good right? :))

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5411 on: Fri, 19 February 2021, 17:19:20 »
I cringe when I see number pads with a 1u 0 under the 2, as seen in most 1800s, 96%, and some other compact 100%-ish layouts.

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I have to think that people who like those layouts do not actually use the 10-key correctly. The 0 key is for the thumb! When 0 is a 1u under the 2, you are forced to use your middle finger or else shift your wrist in order to use your thumb. I suppose you could reach it with your thumb without moving your hand, but you would have to contort your thumb to do it because there is usually an arrow key in the way. Whichever way you do it, hitting a 1u under the 2 is either slow or not ergonomic.

I am fine with layouts where there is a 1u 0 under the 1 and a 1u 00 under the 2. It's not my preference, but for the special case of accounting data entry, the 00 key under the 2 can improve efficiency despite the aforementioned difficulties.

I do like compact full-size boards, but I believe a 1u 0 under the 2 is the wrong compromise to make. For me, the ideal compact full-size layout would be more like a 75% with a normal number pad added on so that the right arrow does not encroach on the numpad 0. The DriftMechanics Austin layout is a good example, and even more compact layouts are possible.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5412 on: Mon, 22 February 2021, 10:39:43 »
People not using keyboard functions the way they were intended is a rabbithole down which we probably shouldn't go, or we'll be lost forever.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5413 on: Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:03:08 »
This may have been covered... but the current trend of "EVERYTHING BLACK BY DEFAULT" is just as bad, if not worse, than "EVERYTHING BEIGE BY DEFAULT" and "EVERYTHING GREY BY DEFAULT." I'm talking about everyday keyboards and computer equipment, not specialist stuff.
I used to hate ye olde computer equipment being all beige

If they bring BACK beige, it won't be cool anymore,  and people will move back to black and silver again.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5414 on: Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:16:33 »
Personally, I have a bit of a pet peeve for anyone who insists that there's no way a mechanical board could feel that much better than a membrane! After all, why would people have moved away from them otherwise?

Edit: I just realized this is likely only unpopular to me because I grew up in the most hillbilly part of Kentucky possible, and barely anyone there is even into tech, let alone the niche of mechanical keyboards.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5415 on: Mon, 22 February 2021, 16:23:04 »
i remember when sgi machines came in cool colors, but the keyboards rarely matched

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5416 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 08:27:28 »
This may have been covered... but the current trend of "EVERYTHING BLACK BY DEFAULT" is just as bad, if not worse, than "EVERYTHING BEIGE BY DEFAULT" and "EVERYTHING GREY BY DEFAULT." I'm talking about everyday keyboards and computer equipment, not specialist stuff.
I used to hate ye olde computer equipment being all beige

If they bring BACK beige, it won't be cool anymore,  and people will move back to black and silver again.


I guess that may be the case for some. I like black and beige (in the right situation). Black never goes out of style. I still have some of those old black and silver cases and have swapped a (more) modern board into at least one, although that was mostly just because I had it around.

Personally, I have a bit of a pet peeve for anyone who insists that there's no way a mechanical board could feel that much better than a membrane! After all, why would people have moved away from them otherwise?

Edit: I just realized this is likely only unpopular to me because I grew up in the most hillbilly part of Kentucky possible, and barely anyone there is even into tech, let alone the niche of mechanical keyboards.

I don't think I have handed anybody a clicky keyboard that hasn't loved typing on it. My coworker that's in his 70s seems more enthused with the RGB LEDs than anything else about the board I gave them for Christmas though.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5417 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:02:37 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

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« Reply #5418 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 10:12:40 »
I don't think I have handed anybody a clicky keyboard that hasn't loved typing on it. My coworker that's in his 70s seems more enthused with the RGB LEDs than anything else about the board I gave them for Christmas though.

For context of my first post, this is when trying to convince people back where I grew up in eastern KY that mechs are worth the price tag. Their universal reaction was always "it's just the keyboard why does it matter" or some variation of what I mentioned in my first post.

Then again, to most of them, Apple was the pinnacle of high end computing, because if it's not customizable and is relatively hard to get in that area, that must mean it's the best of the best and nothing can top it. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #5419 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 10:50:58 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

I used to like scissor switches ... before I knew anything. I can't say I could try a Model M, or similar, and say the same.

I don't think I have handed anybody a clicky keyboard that hasn't loved typing on it. My coworker that's in his 70s seems more enthused with the RGB LEDs than anything else about the board I gave them for Christmas though.

For context of my first post, this is when trying to convince people back where I grew up in eastern KY that mechs are worth the price tag. Their universal reaction was always "it's just the keyboard why does it matter" or some variation of what I mentioned in my first post.

Then again, to most of them, Apple was the pinnacle of high end computing, because if it's not customizable and is relatively hard to get in that area, that must mean it's the best of the best and nothing can top it. :rolleyes:

That must have been before you could get a board full of Outemu blues for $30?

I think the Apple thing is universal, unfortunately. Cook's blunderings are helping to change that though. Jobs could sell you a paper bag full of dog crap (and often did). Cook, not so much.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5420 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 11:50:01 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

I used to like scissor switches ... before I knew anything. I can't say I could try a Model M, or similar, and say the same.

I don't think I have handed anybody a clicky keyboard that hasn't loved typing on it. My coworker that's in his 70s seems more enthused with the RGB LEDs than anything else about the board I gave them for Christmas though.

For context of my first post, this is when trying to convince people back where I grew up in eastern KY that mechs are worth the price tag. Their universal reaction was always "it's just the keyboard why does it matter" or some variation of what I mentioned in my first post.

Then again, to most of them, Apple was the pinnacle of high end computing, because if it's not customizable and is relatively hard to get in that area, that must mean it's the best of the best and nothing can top it. :rolleyes:

That must have been before you could get a board full of Outemu blues for $30?

I think the Apple thing is universal, unfortunately. Cook's blunderings are helping to change that though. Jobs could sell you a paper bag full of dog crap (and often did). Cook, not so much.

This was around the mid-late 2010s that I was in middle and high school. Graduated 2018. People there still thought that sort of thing because it was full of the most non-tech savvy people you could ever meet in your life. Some of my classmates could make an elderly person born in 1940 seem like a tech master.

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« Reply #5421 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 12:08:15 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

Is moron a synonym for unenlightened?  :D

There was a dark period in my past when I actually liked these keebs. I did a lot of # input and needed the 10-key. I also 'liked' the very short throw chiclet keys. I would smash away for maximum bottom-out for hour after hour. One day a co-worker showed up with a mech board and I was intrigued. Life moved on and I no longer create 3000+ row spreadsheets. I have a small collection of 60s and 65s with different switches and different plates. Still haven't embraced linears but I've kind of settled in on light clickies at this point after several years on (much) heavier tactiles. And loud can be really satisfying but there's definitely a place in my life for silents.


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« Reply #5422 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 12:17:43 »
I think you'll find that that's the majority of people in virtually every community feel that way.

Even I feel that way. I've spent thousands on keyboards this year, and are any of them worth anything beyond the free keyboards that come with the computers? Not really. The people who aren't into keyboards are the smart ones.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5423 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 12:36:06 »
Tp4 also likes the lenovo laptop scissors.  If they made an ERGODOX out of that, Tp4 would get a set.

Mx-Buru is more fun to type on but scissors are faster easier to time for speed.

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« Reply #5426 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 16:21:40 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

My ex-wife is a magazine editor and has been typing thousands of words per day since the 1980s. She has been a devoted Apple cult member for the last 2/3 of that period and specifically now likes the shortest possible travel because she believes that it makes her life easier. Unlike those of us who poke and stab, her fingers float over the keys and dip down with a feather's touch.

Although my personal preference is the opposite, there is no way to disparage hers. I am a firm believer in empirical evidence and her production totals dwarf mine, therefore her opinions and preferences are indisputably valid.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5427 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 19:19:13 »
Short throw means less effort means faster typing. For me, anyway. I think the De Quervain's has something to do with that too.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5428 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 19:23:41 »
I had a girlfriend who preferred the short travel of her Apple keyboard because she's a moron.

My ex-wife is a magazine editor and has been typing thousands of words per day since the 1980s. She has been a devoted Apple cult member for the last 2/3 of that period and specifically now likes the shortest possible travel because she believes that it makes her life easier. Unlike those of us who poke and stab, her fingers float over the keys and dip down with a feather's touch.

Although my personal preference is the opposite, there is no way to disparage hers. I am a firm believer in empirical evidence and her production totals dwarf mine, therefore her opinions and preferences are indisputably valid.

My wife disliked all my mech boards enough to go out and buy a couple of Dell membrane boards, the ones that come free with their PCs. Too much travel, she says. Too noisy for conference calls. I want a number pad.

She types a lot faster than me, so who am I to argue.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5429 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 19:50:44 »
I actually agree. Cherry 4mm feels like it has too much travel. It feels like it needs more space to operate than it should, and that you have to depress the key farther than you should.

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« Reply #5430 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 21:31:39 »
Some of my best boards have been short travel the old school Thinkpad keyboards, either on actual Thinkpads, or as standalone USB keyboards. The short travel was good, the mechanism felt great.

Unfortunately, there is nothing like them these days and the longevity of the USB keyboards was limited, probably because they were so flexy.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5431 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 10:01:13 »
Too many people are treating group buys like preordering, and go into them blindly without expecting that they can ever go wrong. Years before I joined GH I used to see horror stories all the time of GB runners disappearing or kits falling off of shipping barges or whatever. Now whenever I see a GB made by a guy with a new account with renders but no prototype, or a keyset with a ton of crazy colors that'll probably take ages to match, I get shook. There's probably gonna be a lot of backlash and drama in the hobby this year.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5432 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 12:07:16 »
Too many people are treating group buys like preordering, and go into them blindly without expecting that they can ever go wrong. Years before I joined GH I used to see horror stories all the time of GB runners disappearing or kits falling off of shipping barges or whatever. Now whenever I see a GB made by a guy with a new account with renders but no prototype, or a keyset with a ton of crazy colors that'll probably take ages to match, I get shook. There's probably gonna be a lot of backlash and drama in the hobby this year.

Seconded. Honestly, even as a newer person to this hobby, I know enough about GBs not to go into them blindly. It's more like video game Kickstarter than it is a video game pre-order, to make a comparison. You offer money, you hope it gets made and produced, and if the person's reputable, it more than likely will be. If they aren't, or they run out of funds, or some other major complication, there goes your hundreds of dollars you just spent on a keyboard or keyboard part. Sucks to be you I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And I also agree on the second part there. With how many people are new to the hobby, and are treating every GB like a pre-order for a product that's 100% going to be made, there's going to be a whole lot of disappointment, disillusion, and dissatisfaction in the upcoming months and years as all of these people who think GBs are glorified pre-orders get screwed over by unfulfilled GB promises because they didn't do their homework.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5433 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 19:38:44 »
Group buys are really puzzling. For boards, it seems close to certain that there will be massive delays, and highly likely that there will be huge amounts of drama.

Expected value of an item is price with a probability adjustment... personally, I add a 50% factor for the likelihood of non-delivery or drama, which boosts most group buys into unreasonable territory. A $300 case (which is already at the low end) now becomes $450. For a rare layout, this is a hard enough sell. But many of these group buys are for the pretties rather than a unique function.

It also seems rare for anyone to ask basic due diligence questions about the organiser's background. What their past buys have been, how those buys have gone, what their experience is with manufacturing. Even Kickstarter campaigns usually have a short blurb about the experience of people behind the project.

This isn't just 'new people to the hobby' either, it seems like there are repeat participants, or at least participants who have been in the hobby for years.

I just don't get it.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5434 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 05:25:54 »
Yup, peeps don't understand that random dudes on internet forum =/= Amazon.com

They're more like shady pop-up sites that offer you a free insurance quote.

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« Reply #5435 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 07:23:42 »
If you are concerned with the price of switches rather than their performance then you should not be in this hobby.

90% of artisans are ugly as hell and ruin the look of a keyboard. Some artisans though can enhance the look tremendously but its a rare thing for me.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5436 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 08:28:20 »
what performance though ? and how much -MORE/LESS- of it,  can we derive a valid a price difference.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5437 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 08:43:41 »
**** man who knows

But I agree to the extent of custom keyboards. If you're not doing custom keyboards and you're buying one off the shelf, price should be the #1 consideration since all the switches are basically the same.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5438 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 10:00:01 »
totally agree about artisans. there are a few where i really appreciate the artistry but even then i don't want them on my keeb. first ones i'm seriously considering are the rama cherry caps in Red Alert coming out in march.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5439 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 10:11:39 »
I don't want none of that ****. I want the symbols on the keyboard and that's it. If I wanted a fishbowl on my desk I'd put a fishbowl on my desk.

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« Reply #5440 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 10:57:21 »
Honestly, while I initially agreed with some of you about artisans, I think that if they're done well and done tastefully they're alright. The prices always seem a little higher than I would pay for that sort of thing though. I know that it's the difference between a mass-produced item and a hand crafted item, like the difference between a MTG Ultra Pro deck box and a deck box crafted by Aaron Cain (guy who makes really high quality wooden deck box designs for those of you that aren't into MTG), but if I'm spending that much on a single key, it needs to be worth it for me.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5441 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 11:50:51 »
Honestly, while I initially agreed with some of you about artisans, I think that if they're done well and done tastefully they're alright.

I find them all distasteful, but that's also a matter of taste.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5442 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 11:56:44 »
Honestly, while I initially agreed with some of you about artisans, I think that if they're done well and done tastefully they're alright.

I find them all distasteful, but that's also a matter of taste.

When I say tastefully, I mean if you get a keycap set and an artisan that matches the color scheme and theming of the keycaps, like a set with a novelty spacebar that's a nice blue with images of koi on it, then getting an artisan ESC key with the same color and actual koi models in it, that could work rather well and look nice. At the end of the day, I see artisans as the keyboard equivalent of a project car - it looks nice, and it certainly does its desired function, but it's on the expensive side for what it is and not everyone is interested in them or wants one.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5443 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 12:15:59 »
An artisan that really matches a set+board is a magical thing, but it's hard to come by. What I've been doing it buying artisans+novelties and putting them on stuff that really clicks. (Which so far is only one board.  :rolleyes:)

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5444 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 12:32:12 »
Honestly, while I initially agreed with some of you about artisans, I think that if they're done well and done tastefully they're alright.

I find them all distasteful, but that's also a matter of taste.

When I say tastefully, I mean if you get a keycap set and an artisan that matches the color scheme and theming of the keycaps, like a set with a novelty spacebar that's a nice blue with images of koi on it, then getting an artisan ESC key with the same color and actual koi models in it, that could work rather well and look nice. At the end of the day, I see artisans as the keyboard equivalent of a project car - it looks nice, and it certainly does its desired function, but it's on the expensive side for what it is and not everyone is interested in them or wants one.

That's reasonable. I don't like that either though. All a matter of taste.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5445 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 21:12:49 »
Does anyone use artisan keycaps on their work keyboards?

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5446 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 21:25:43 »
Does anyone use artisan keycaps on their work keyboards?
well, if it a metal artisan from RAMA, i don't mind using it on work board lol

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #5447 on: Thu, 25 February 2021, 22:27:23 »
begs the question: is rama a novelty or an artisan?

Does anyone use artisan keycaps on their work keyboards?
well, if it a metal artisan from RAMA, i don't mind using it on work board lol

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