Religion

[quadibloc]

Hey LOOK - more funny Japanese bra pictures.

I was wondering where you got this from, but now I was able to find http://mostlymumbling.blogspot.com/2010/05/bizarre-bras-by-triumph-japan.html which, while it doesn't illustrate that particular undergarment, illustrates one of the ones noted earlier, called "Mr. Chopsticks".

The same collection of bras seems to be described here: http://inventorspot.com/articles/best_8_bizarre_bras_triumph_inte_8275 as well.

This site has a video for the "Countdown to Marriage Bra", perhaps that's the one in this post, but the video doesn't seem to come up.

EDIT: Oh, no. here is the "Husband Hunting Bra".

But that video was a private video too... so here we are.

so that you can be familiar with its functionality.

[keyboardlover]

To quote the great band Modest Mouse:

I was in heaven, I was in hell
Believe in neither but, fear them as well

[itlnstln]

That was the intent the entire time.

I don't mind worshiping boobs, though.  I'm a Presboobtarian.

[itlnstln]

Check that, I'm a Southern Boobtist.

[Konrad]

Boob-worshipping is unconnected to religious brand name.  Hell, even Satanists can worship boobs.
 

[erricrice]

Boob-worshipping is unconnected to religious brand name.  Hell, even Satanists can worship boobs.
 

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Lol: "Do you prefer Indian or Chinese Takeout?"

[Konrad]

The answer is deliciously simple: Indo-Chinese cuisine.
 
Fortunately very few of us are both rich and insane; so the risk of becoming a Scientologist is minimal.
 
The spiritual question of utmost profundity is: "Do You Think Underwear Can Be Magical?"

[wellington1869]

The spiritual question of utmost profundity is: "Do You Think Underwear Can Be Magical?"

yes.

[Voixdelion]

Nice on,  welly!  

hehheh...

[Ekaros]

heh heh you said boobies

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My son discovered this on his TI-84Plus while the family was watching the Britney Spears episode on "Glee".

That's my boy!

Umm, how on earth you can discover that on graphical-calculator?

[Lanx]

man the lost art of upside down digital, used to do that back 12 years ago w/ my fiancee in college, got her a pager (cell phones were hundreds of dollars a month back then!, ok maybe 70 a month)
would do codes like
07734
14
17 301707

prolly more? those are off the top of my head.

[Konrad]

Er, umopepisdn "17 301707" reads as "LOLIES LI" ... wtf?

[Lanx]

love u,
it was the age of imagination back then!

[Konrad]

[microsoft windows]

ANYBODY HAVE ANY SPIRITUAL THOUGHTS TO SHARE WITH US?

[TheSoulhunter]

I think, even if religion wouldn't exist, they would simply "exploit" something different to reach their goals!

And they did >.>

[tp4tissue]

The problem isn't religion,  the problem is human beings ORGANIZING RELIGION.

[fohat.digs]

ORGANIZING

being the operative word.

I will always remember an interview with Salman Rushdie 20-30 years ago where he said "Organized religion has nothing to do with spirituality and everything to do with political power."

[tp4tissue]

ORGANIZING

being the operative word.

I will always remember an interview with Salman Rushdie 20-30 years ago where he said "Organized religion has nothing to do with spirituality and everything to do with political power."

Everything is a little about everything.

Tp4's experience with humans has been that, no one is fundamentally bad, we all want the same thing. While many of us are very stupid, the Majority of us are imbecilic.  We are this giant moron species bumbling around and destroying the planet.

The aim of politics is to regulate power, that's the aim of all organization. The aim is to have more children and expand what a "Human" would consider "Progress."

But because of our individual stupidity, we've defined "Progress," narrowly and selfishly.  That stupidity compounded spells the end of our civilization.  We've failed to recognize our total dependence on NATURE, and the life force of the earth.


It's not too late,  but it almost certainly is. People won't eat a vegetable to save their life, not out of Malice, but out of Hubris, Ignorance, and Stupidity.

[TheSoulhunter]

The aim of politics is to regulate power, that's the aim of all organization. The aim is to have more children...

Seems they failed, at least in the western world and some other 1st world countries like Japan...
Birthrates are below sustain level for decades by now. And instead of propagating a raise of the birthrates, they do the opposite.

People won't eat a vegetable

Well, nature programmed us to prefer calorie-rich food. In difference to our modern world, there was no abundance of food for 99% of human existence. It was much more likely to starve to death, than becoming morbidly obese. That's why we prefer sweet and fatty food. Because, if we had to make the choice between a pile of cucumbers and a pile of apples, we had to prefer the apples, as they would give us an excess of calories we could store for times of deficiency. That's why bacon and candy taste good to most people, but vegetables do not (to this degree). Of course this got exploited by the food industry by creating things with unnatural amounts of fat and sugar... The problem is excess, in every category!

[tp4tissue]

if we had to make the choice between a pile of cucumbers and a pile of apples, we had to prefer the apples, as they would give us an excess of calories we could store for times of deficiency. That's why bacon and candy taste good to most people, but vegetables do not (to this degree). Of course this got exploited by the food industry by creating things with unnatural amounts of fat and sugar... The problem is excess, in every category!

You have to understand what "meat" is. 

Eating meat is the same as eating a Cadaver/Dead-body/Rotting Corpse.  Described accurately, ask yourself, WHY all of a sudden that sounds ridiculously UN-Appetizing.

Because, absent TECHNOLOGY, mastery of fire/ clinical understanding of microbiology/disease,  HUMANS, DO NOT, have the body type to "SAFELY" eat,  CADAVERS.  You see a dead body on the road, there is no natural human instinct to eat it. If we were to eat it at all, we have to be taught the technology/know how to prepare it / eat it.    Vs an Apple, absent any education, you can grab it and eat it, it just so happens to be exactly hand-food-shaped?

Human stomach acidity is much weaker than REAL carnivores (Cats/Lions). If humans ate wild game without cooking, our risk of death in the wild is enormous, diarrhea in the wild is a death sentence without Technological intervention (medicine).

Eating large quantity of fats causes diabetes IN humans, the same is true for Mice, it is standard lab procedure to create diabetic mice for experimentation through fat-feeding. Whereas Cats can eat unlimited fats and not develop diabetes. When you feed cats sugar, they become diabetic.

Meat also is not preferable TO HUMANS.  What, do we do to ALL meat.  we SEASON it, with what? Vegetables, SPICES and minerals (SALT).    We do not prefer the taste of meat, it has virtually no taste to the human pallet. NO ANIMAL eats Cooked Meat.  ONLY HUMANS.  Humans detest that slimy sour gross sweat smell from meat.  That's the meat's natural quality, its flavor.  How is it that we despise something so fundamental. If we were meant to eat it.

We do this elaborate cooking thing, with Everything Vegetable, in order to HIDE/Obscure the meat stink / slimy texture.

Meat on its own is basically a dark grey or brown color, the way all real-carnivores eat it. Why are all human foods and packaging using bright FRUITY colors. Why do we dress up meat dishes in bright greens, orange, reds with vegetables, fruits and  flowers.  BECAUSE we detest not only how it naturally tastes, but how it naturally smells and looks.

MOST meat only has detectable Umami through salt water injection. Most meat we buy is injected pre-packaging with a mechanical salt water injector steel prongs, not only to increase sell weight, but also because it's basically flavorless cardboard to the human pallet.

REAL Carnivores are all color blind.  HUMANs have Trichroma/Quadchroma vision. Carnivores only need to see moving things and eat it. HUMANS need to find fruits, eat only the ones that are ripe, or dig for tubers at exactly the right color bush/tree.

If we don't eat meat, will we die. PROTEIN right?  Have you asked the question, what even is protein.

A protein is 50+ amino acids bunched together, short of that 50 or less is called a peptide, but it's basically the same thing.


WHERE on EARTH do amino - acids come from.  There are 20 amino acids, all 100% of the amino acids ON EARTH comes from PLANTS, the Veggies.


WHY should humans bother,  the COW is 20-25x :1 feed conversion, Chicken / Pig is 6-10x :1.

You put in 25 Calories and get 1 out of cow.  You put in 6 to 10 calories, you get 1 out of a chicken/pig.  The efficiency is appalling and is the PRIMARY cause of global hunger AND incidentally western-Obesity.

Meat production has the #1 carbon foot print on the planet. The statistics say 15-20%, but the truth is, that statistic ignores LAND USE opportunity cost.  Meat (IPCC DATA), utilizes, 47% of all dry land on earth, 37% for grazing + 6% for feedcrop. The opportunity cost is 3 Trillion trees and conjoining soil, which represents ~3x the entire historical industrial carbon output of mankind from fossil fuels.

If we continue to eat meat,  we're dead, there's no way around it. We've got 20 years to go 100% veggies, or we're all dead like the animals on our plate.


Check out the documentary, The Game Changers 2018, every scene is bibliographed / fact checked by the highest accredited ivy league/medical/paleontological institutions.

Eating meat outside of starvation,  which we do not face as a species,  actually only creates problems and poor health.

[TheSoulhunter]

Well, we can safely eat FRESH meat, and even non decomposed cadavers to some extend.
Over here, people eat raw minced meat on a regular basis...



Sure... Our intestines are longer than the one of REAL carnivores.
But they are also shorter and less capable than the ones of REAL herbivores.
Hence the classification as omnivores. Same as we struggle with cadavers, we struggle with grass.

Where did you get that we do not prefer the taste of meat?
A unseasoned steak, or a piece of bacon, is one of the most delicious things for me...
If it really tastes like "flavorless cardboard" to you, there is either something is wrong with your meat or with your pallet.

Also, no carnivore species living on land (that I know of) is actually colorblind (monochromatic).
Most are dichromats (they can see blue and green, but not red) but that's also true for about 10% of male humans.
Besides humans, only primates and birds are really trichromatic. It's uncommon for both, herbivores and carnivores alike.

[tp4tissue]

Well, we can safely eat FRESH meat, and even non decomposed cadavers to some extend.
Over here, people eat raw minced meat on a regular basis...

Sure... Our intestines are longer than the one of REAL carnivores.
But they are also shorter and less capable than the ones of REAL herbivores.
Hence the classification as omnivores. Same as we struggle with cadavers, we struggle with grass.

Where did you get that we do not prefer the taste of meat?
A unseasoned steak, or a piece of bacon, is one of the most delicious things for me...
If it really tastes like "flavorless cardboard" to you, there is either something is wrong with your meat or with your pallet.

Also, no carnivore species living on land (that I know of) is actually colorblind (monochromatic).
Most are dichromats (they can see blue and green, but not red) but that's also true for about 10% of male humans.
Besides humans, only primates and birds are really trichromatic. It's uncommon for both, herbivores and carnivores alike.

Unfortunately, we can not digest cadavers in the same way a real carnivore can.

We basically can not naturally eat it at all, as mentioned before, risk of death.   

Cooking is a technological intervention, we can not safely eat steak or bacon otherwise. Kids still die of diarrhea in 3rd world countries.

NO Carnivorous animal eats cooked meat.  None prefer it.

It would be also be ridiculous to argue the point raw steak / raw bacon absent (smoking)/ seasoning is "very palatable" to humans.

The case of our intestine length, it is FAR longer than carnivores of similar size, this is why it's adapted for digesting plants, but it's not the same as Ruminant animals, which is a separate herbivore classification, it does not mean that just because we're not ruminants, we're not herbivores. 

The DRAWBACK of having such long digestive tract in humans, WHEN the input is MEAT, is that the Meat begins PUTRIFICATION in our warm/wet gut.

A major reason REAL carnivores have such short gut, is they want to get that out as quickly as possible.  People who eat alot of meat, typical western diets, have very putrid smelling farts,  we all laugh about it, but this is actually your primary indicator.

Japan pre WW2 before western diet and KFC came their way, they had virtually no colon/bowel/prostate cancers.  AFTER ww2 + meat heavy diets those cancer rates Exploded to the Same % prevalence rate as in the West.


I am using colorblindness correctly, dichromats relative to Humans as tri-chromat/quad chromat, is conditionally colorblind,  You are deferring to an argument on semantics.

It's not for any 1 reason, humans are herbivores (starchivores classification),  it's for ALL of those reasons combined including upregulation of disease, environmental damage, taste preference.

Where you're stuck on is CULTURE, we all grow up in what's known as Carnism, because this way of eating, TP4 Lover of POPEYES fried chicken, is the DEFAULT,  we don't see anything wrong with it.   

In the same way we used to believe in Galen's humors,  this meat-obsessive culture represents an incomplete nutritional science/ understanding.

The best science of today, clearly indicates, the major bottleneck to our survival as a species IS  Meat-Consumption.

[iri]

Well, we can safely eat FRESH meat, and even non decomposed cadavers to some extend.
Over here, people eat raw minced meat on a regular basis...

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That's Zwiebelmett, right? It's gross

[TheSoulhunter]

We basically can not naturally eat it at all, as mentioned before, risk of death.   

Only if it's decomposing, but same is true for many carnivores...
There is only like 1000 species that even consume carrion, many of them omnivore.
As said, fresh (non decomposing) cadavers are edible. Just decomposed meat requires cooking to be reasonable safe.
Have you never heard of traditional foods like Kiviak? Fermented seabird wrapped in rotting seal skin, eaten by Inuit.
Also their diet was 80-100% meat and fish based up until recently, for millennia, not much plants growing up there.

[TheSoulhunter]

Well, we can safely eat FRESH meat, and even non decomposed cadavers to some extend.
Over here, people eat raw minced meat on a regular basis...

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It's gross

Tell that to the people eating it...
I personally don't like raw minced meat because of it's consistency. But I like creamy liver-pâté :3

[TheSoulhunter]

we all grow up in what's known as Carnism

Hey, my mom tried to feed me vegetables, but at age 4-5 I started to refuse eating them...
Can't see how this could be the result of propaganda at this age, if anything mom tried to propagate the veggies.
Thing is, some of them, like cooked broccoli or cauliflower, smell like poop to me. There is not much I can do about it.
Carrots, celeriac, and some other stuff is fine if it's uncooked. Cooked? Onions, Potatoes, Peppers and Tomatoes, that's it.

[tp4tissue]

We basically can not naturally eat it at all, as mentioned before, risk of death.   

Only if it's decomposing, but same is true for many carnivores...
There is only like 1000 species that even consume carrion, many of them omnivore.
As said, fresh (non decomposing) cadavers are edible. Just decomposed meat requires cooking to be reasonable safe.
Have you never heard of traditional foods like Kiviak? Fermented seabird wrapped in rotting seal skin, eaten by Inuit.
Also their diet was 80-100% meat and fish based up until recently, for millennia, not much plants growing up there.

Inuits are one of the most polluted population on the planet.

The regions that ate seal fats, their women actually can't breast feed children, because their milk is toxic.

This is a similar situation now with dolphins losing their first born pup, because the mother's milk (they're mammals) is too toxic.

The Inuit mummies discovered in the arctic region show massive onset of atherosclerosis, DUE to them eating predominantly animals.

Hey, my mom tried to feed me vegetables, but at age 4-5 I started to refuse eating them...
Can't see how this could be the result of propaganda at this age, if anything mom tried to propagate the veggies.
Thing is, some of them, like cooked broccoli or cauliflower, smell like poop to me. There is not much I can do about it.
Carrots, celeriac, and some other stuff is fine if it's uncooked. Cooked? Onions, Potatoes, Peppers and Tomatoes, that's it.

Your mother and all our mothers are  Carnists. You're making a false equivalence, and you know it.

What you're setting up for here is cancer/diabetes/heartdisease,  ontop of a dying planet.  We're trading the future of all mankind  based on Culture.


It's exactly the same scenario as cigarettes/fossil fuels, only way worse, because we're out of time.

I don't expect you to wise up though, the delusion and programming is too deep for most humans,  I don't judge you for it. But we're all dead because of this momentum.

For most humans, their intelligence is too low, their innate dataset of misinformation is insurmountable. You are probably just not smart enough to think your way out of the cultural programming.

[tp4tissue]

Don't mind me soulhunter,  Tp4 is talking to himself.

[TheSoulhunter]

You are probably just not smart enough to think your way out of the cultural programming.[/size][/color]

Interesting coincidence...
Besides the "The Evolutionary Mismatch and Its Consequences" manuscript I showed you earlier, I also work on a Guide.



I would like to hear your opinion once it's finished. Maybe you can contribute...

[tp4tissue]

If you are as intelligent as you believe you are, given time,  theoretically you should come to the same conclusion as the Tp4 on what humanity aught to be doing,  Eating Vegetables.   And why we're almost certainly going to fail at it.

Consider Tp4 hopeful that Soulhunter is such a person.

You may consider "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" for research material.  Education is an indoctrination into a cultural narrative.

Organization through oppression is the only way civilization has ever worked.

[TheSoulhunter]

If you are as intelligent as you believe you are...

To me it is not a matter of believe, as we have metrics (g) to test and quantify it. But stating test results is like bragging with a payroll...
Knowledge and wisdom are a different story. But intelligence helps processing/evaluating information, and thus gaining knowledge (and hopefully wisdom).

theoretically you should come to the same conclusion as the Tp4 on what humanity aught to be doing

Why is Tp4 sure his view is universal? What makes you sure your logic and reasoning is flawless?

You may consider "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" for research material.

Thanks for the suggestion! I will have a look at it this weekend...

Education is an indoctrination into a cultural narrative.

I devoted an entire chapter to education (only institutional education so far)

Organization through oppression is the only way civilization has ever worked.

Well, centralized control through force is a good solution, as long as it does not alienate the majority (because too much oppression might breed resistance and instability).
Systems emphasizing individual agency and collaboration have a hard time coping with troublemakers and the unwilling. They fail when people disagree or disengage...

What would be a functional alternative for large-scale populations in your opinion?
Or is the solution to go back to the demos/polis principle (small self-ruling communities)?

[tp4tissue]

To me it is not a matter of believe, as we have metrics (g) to test and quantify it. But stating test results is like bragging with a payroll...
Knowledge and wisdom are a different story. But intelligence helps processing/evaluating information, and thus gaining knowledge (and hopefully wisdom).

Intelligence is different from wisdom, you got that far, you're doing well. Watch the documentary, "The Game Changers 2018" and get back to me on veggies.  It is the singular most important task for mankind.


Why is Tp4 sure his view is universal? What makes you sure your logic and reasoning is flawless?


Tp4 was not born 100% veggie.  He's arrived at it through deep contemplation, against all motivations personal and Societal. Through deep research into the subject, and his process has been time consuming, but immaculate.

You might remember Classical-Tp4 , ambassador of Popeyes fried chicken and Sausages.




Well, centralized control through force is a good solution, as long as it does not alienate the majority (because too much oppression might breed resistance and instability).
Systems emphasizing individual agency and collaboration have a hard time coping with troublemakers and the unwilling. They fail when people disagree or disengage...
What would be a functional alternative for large-scale populations in your opinion?
Or is the solution to go back to the demos/polis principle (small self-ruling communities)?



It's premature to discuss "future" best government, when we won't be able to even sustain the "Current" bad one.

There is no functional alternative, because large-scale population itself is an anomaly.

Our current Comprehension and Scale is the result of a singular miracle. FOSSIL FUELS.

An average western farmer is 60 years old, 70 in japan. Each farmer farms on average 1500 acres, how, Massive energy injection machinery AND chemical fertilizer.

This energy system is a 1 time deal, and every process including governance of modern civilization depends on it.

A barrel of oil is $60, but it represents 4-5 years of physical labor of a "singular person" even after translating for the inefficiency of machines. Our whole system is pinned to this stupid and incorrect number.  What is a barrel of oil worth, $100,000 at the minimum. Even with slavery, it's worth $25,000.

We also do not pay for any of the externalities. Pollution, waste disposal. These are real costs to NATURE and biosphere, but our metrics do not take them into account whatsoever.

Economics has thoroughly failed, and we're spiraling into an UN-economic era of civilization, (they talk about it at davos) where Energy-Return-On-Investment is not positive, and we can't simply pave over it mathematically.   You can keep printing money, it won't reverse carbon, or increase oil output.

No one wants to stop the system, because this system IS our culture. It disregards our dependence on the environment, that is the same as to say, the SYSTEM disregards REALITY.

OIL is rapidly running out.  There are no alternatives.  Wind Turbines + Solar are NOT alternatives, they are conversions FROM fossil fuels, and they're only good for electricity which is a small fraction of our energy economy. The vast majority of economic machinery runs on DIESEL + Bunker + Natural Gas.


What's likely, Brutal Feudalism.

Look at India, their slums is how most people in every country will live when access to energy tightens rapidly.  Their governance, 70% of government officials accused of sex crimes, Leaders living in palaces right next to slums.

We already have every feature of it in the west, the difference is we have more oil, and better propaganda, so it doesn't look as bad.

India/Phillipines/Africa/Middle east. 

Our media system is very good at selling the delusion that everything is under control, and we're going to be NET Positive.  Couldn't be further from the truth.

You and I are just lucky we exist in a bubble (highly momentary) of wealth and free time. 99% of the outside world does not have such luxury.


At the personally level,  Tp4,  what should "I" do?   Make powerful friends QUICKLY,  even then, you probably won't survive what's coming.


This is the end times.  If AI doesn't work, we're screwed, and it probably won't work.

[TheSoulhunter]

Okay, this makes your concern more clear to me...

I initially assumed that since we’ve only probed 10-15% of Earth’s surface for fossil fuels, the remaining 90% could potentially supply us for another century or so.
However, this overlooks the EROI you mentioned, which is significantly worse for unprobed areas... explaining why they remain unexplored, heh?

Factoring in the EROI, these unprobed regions might only extend our fossil fuel supply by about a decade, from what I read.
Thus stretching our time from 40 to perhaps 50 years until we divide civilization by zero. That's a bummer!
Dropping fossil fuel use to sustain level within that time-frame is not feasible in my opinion...

Extreme measures, like severe population reduction or reverting to pre-industrial standards, might seem a viable solution in numbers.
But not in practice! As modern economies rely on scale, and rapid reductions would surely trigger cascading failures.

Food shortages from the collapse of oil-dependent agriculture, societal instability, and a crippled workforce unable to maintain infrastructure.
This would lead to chaos, global-wars, and... Unattended nuclear reactors (I remember). Fallout or MadMax becoming reality.

There is basically no way to circumvent the downfall...
So, why even bother with efforts like switching to a plant-based diet?

It won't make any difference in the outcome...
Isn't it much more rational to indulge in total hedonism? Given that the apocalypse is inevitable?

Perhaps I should overthink my wooden-shed lifestyle. >.>

Or is the effort more of a spiritual thing for you?
Leaving with "At least I tried" on your mind?

[tp4tissue]

Dropping fossil fuel use to sustain level within that time-frame is not feasible in my opinion...

Extreme measures, like severe population reduction or reverting to pre-industrial standards, might seem a viable solution in numbers.
But not in practice! As modern economies rely on scale, and rapid reductions would surely trigger cascading failures.

Cascading failures are built in, if we survive the blow AT ALL, remember every nvk plant on earth is an Infinite resource/money sink. Any one of those popping is 10-30x chernobyls all at once, it's like 100000 to 500000x hiroshimas going off EACH (worth of radia7ion).  You can understand that the Human civilization has taken a poison, a suicide pill on itself.  Poisoned ground water, poisoned ocean, poisoned soil.

Depopulation shock is only one of the initial shocks. Billions will die.  India is 80% farmers, Nearly 1 billion farming/farming adjacent jobs, and Look at the state of that country.  And they STILL HAVE fossil fuels, take that away, what do they have.


Food shortages from the collapse of oil-dependent agriculture, societal instability, and a crippled workforce unable to maintain infrastructure.
This would lead to chaos, global-wars, and... Unattended nuclear reactors (I remember). Fallout or MadMax becoming reality.

There is basically no way to circumvent the downfall...
So, why even bother with efforts like switching to a plant-based diet?


Plant-based diet is the largest most effective task "For Now," it will soften the fall, maybe give us a little more time, it won't solve the crisis.

We're going into Multi-Crisis, that's what those planetary boundaries are, we're destroying Everything about the Earth's life-system that sponsors our existence.


Global war isn't the biggest problem, because we'll be way too poor and hurting to get around to war at the scale you're imagining.

We might have some villages with spears and bows and arrow stuff near the end. But most people will be quite weak and sick or tired from all the manual labor.

It won't make any difference in the outcome...
Isn't it much more rational to indulge in total hedonism? Given that the apocalypse is inevitable?
Perhaps I should overthink my wooden-shed lifestyle. >.>
Or is the effort more of a spiritual thing for you?
Leaving with "At least I tried" on your mind?


Devolving into hedonism is a very rational thing to do.  Again, it's fleeting, and momentary, hedonism will LOCK IN the worst outcome however, and then the radia7ion clouds come.  Everyone will feel nothing at first, but then they'll gradually feel sick,  farming? farming what, the cloud just poisoned all the soil around you and we don't have any technology to clean it up.

Just imagine, you got all this radiation suddenly, and you need medical supply, what POWERS the medical industry, oh, Fossil Fuels.

What do we power water bombers with for forest fires, oh Fossil fuels. Wonderful, put out fires with jet fuel, a true big brain genius move.

Everything we could do to save ourselves is POWERED BY FOSSIL FUELS.




Long run, threading the needle, most of it is will just be managing the slums.  The physical labor in slums will be our main economic throughput.

Brutal Feudalism.  Tp4 sees no alternative.


This is assuming AI GOD doesn't work, which honestly, it looks like it's not going to.  But hey, maybe they're saving it to hype the stonks. And we'll all live happily ever after.

[TheSoulhunter]

Thanks for these valuable insights tp4! Do you mind if I summarize it in a small essay over the weekend?
I really enjoy writing at the moment, and it helps to distill information to it's quintessence...
Would you be willing to give it a read and add notes next week?
Distilled information is useful for building the AI GOD...

[tp4tissue]

Tp4 enjoys chatting with bot soulhunter.